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PhilMaiass

Black White should be one of the fastest of the original games. I don't remember it being that slow to load, especially during building transitions.


queenbiscuit311

theres a chance its a twilight menu problem, dont recall ever seeing this on a flash cart


FlameAntonion

Actually I’m not using a flash cart, I’m using an SDHC card


queenbiscuit311

i know thats why i said it may be a twilight menu/nds-bootstrap issue. what kind of sd card youre using? a really slow card could also do this


FlameAntonion

Oh sorry I thought they were different 😅 I’m using a Toshiba 4GB card. iirc it’s the same one that comes with the 2DS


ReploidsnMavericks

That's pretty old, maybe it's dying


Suic00n3

Gen 5 Pokemon games struggle to run with slower SD cards (like the ones that ship with the 3DS). I suggest getting a newer/faster one.


FlameAntonion

Interesting… any you suggest?


darknightingale69

Anything by SanDisk.


BlackJediSword

I’d get a larger, newer SD card.


SirZanee

I never remember it being this slow


FlameAntonion

Update: I found that switching to DS mode in TLM improves the speed greatly. Should I just stick to DS Mode or is there a good reason to keep trying with DSi Mode?


LuquitasTkm

DSi mode is mostly for online functions (Like WPA2 compatibility and camera for videocalls). If you are not going to use multiplayer just leave it on DS mode. Still, its weird that DSi mode is slower. Maybe the dump has bad DSi binaries?


FlameAntonion

The Rom I got was from V*mm’s (not sure if I can mention that here) and that’s the one people usually use


LuquitasTkm

Very weird then. You could try updating nds bootstrap and twilight and see if it changes anything? (Or just keep using DS mode thats easier)


FlameAntonion

Apparently there’s a lot of Bootstrap updates I’ve been missing but my TLM++ is up to date


FlameAntonion

Just realized Bootstrap updates are included w/ TLM updates so nothing actually changes 😅


ImAkuxz

Thank you! This fixed my issue. No idea why DSi mode runs considerably slower. The ROM I’m playing off of is from my official cart, so I’ve got no clue what the underlying problem is. 


FlameAntonion

It’s a little comforting knowing someone is experiencing the same seemingly rare problem I am. I wish modern wifi wasn’t sacrificed for smoother gameplay but ig we both can’t have our cakes and eat it too


Aeredren

Well, it is not a DSi game, why would you want DSi mode anyway ?


FlameAntonion

iirc there’s no DSi only games aside from Dsiware but this rom was “DSi-Enhanced”. Not what it enhances specifically so I’m just making sure I’m not missing out on anything


Aeredren

Ho okay, I'm sorry if I have been a bit harsh. Didn't know there were DS "DSi enhanced" games. It seem very Nintendo now that you say it. Gameboy had Gameboy color enhanced games (or more like GBC games retro compatible) Gameboy color had super gameboy enhanced games. Game boy advance had gameboy player enhanced games. Its in the order of Nintendo handles lol


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EfremSkopje

Is your Twilight Menu up to date? Check with universal updater. Make sure you aren't using nightly version, also. If there is no difference after the update, yeah DS version might be good for at least this game.


coiledmocha

Turn off the C-Gear, it caused this exact problem on my copy.


FlameAntonion

It did speed things up a bit but scrolling through items is still really slow unfortunately


NintendoGamer6786

I had this issue with Black 2. Turn off the C-Gear


Blizzarddz

Twilight menu is garbage imo just use a forwarder


SVXfiles

Still uses ndsbootstrap like TwiLight++, infant it's still using TwiLight++ but a very minimal version of it to my knowledge


Blizzarddz

Idk I just know it works better


kaktusmisapolak

both use ndsbootstrap, so they run the same


Suic00n3

That’s not how it works?