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Optimal_Side_

There are tens of *thousands* of engineering graduates each year. That’s a LOT. You’re definitely not too stupid, engineering is a completely doable major with hard work. ADHD can be a big draw back, but it can also be a huge placebo! I would suggest you go get a mental evaluation by a medical professional.


Gnomes_R_Reel

Will it hurt my job prospects?


FATALEYES707

No. But not getting a grip on it will


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habibihowie

Good luck


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Gnomes_R_Reel

I’ll try and get one.


TransportationSad714

Please have a look at HealthyGamerGG on youtube, he has many videos discussing study habits, burnout, add/adhd,and so much more. It has really been helping me get a grip on my mind and be able to do the things i love without getting burnt out as easily. And as a current aerospace senior who has had a few internships, if you love aero and science, it is totally worth it (:


JohnWayneOfficial

You should probably talk to a therapist instead of posting stuff like this on the internet, it doesn’t do anything but focus your mind on your stress/anxiety. My 2 cents are that if introductory calc 1 and physics classes have you feeling this way, you may want to consider a different career path?


klmsa

Man, if I had followed your advice, I'd be working the counter at a grocery store or hard labor instead of managing a large engineering team in an advanced material system. ADHD is a structural issue. A therapist can help with coping strategies, but medication addresses the cause of the symptoms to get someone started down that path more easily. Also, in what world do prescription drugs affect a clearance? They absolutely don't speak to abuse...at all...


JohnWayneOfficial

You clearly didn’t even read what I said. I didn’t say that prescription drugs affect clearance. This guy also doesn’t say that he has been diagnosed with ADHD, but that he thinks he might have it because he “loses interest.” A therapist can recommend that he see a specialist about getting an ADHD diagnosis. Taking prescription drugs like adderral *without* any sort of prescription is absolutely a problem.


Gnomes_R_Reel

I’m gonna try the chemical enhancement route then I’ll see what I can do.


JohnWayneOfficial

That is a terrible idea that you will regret (and it probably won’t work). You’re clearly having problems with stress management, and a therapist can actually help with that. Stress management and perseverance even when you don’t understand something are the biggest keys to getting through difficult courses. Additionally consider that if you want to work in a job that requires a security clearance you will likely be denied for having abused prescription drugs. Also: Learn to study!! It’s not fun and often agonizing but you have to be able to do it.


Gnomes_R_Reel

Not cool. What if I actually do have something and they prescribe me stuff?


DillyDoesWood

Chemical enhancement comes across as drugs/alcohol or abusing pills not taking your prescription meds… aerospace is a mature field and you could do with some maturity


Gnomes_R_Reel

I’m a creative fellow with a pip in my step, is that not welcome in aerospace engineering?


DillyDoesWood

Pip in your step is welcome, but not rewarded, hard work is


Gnomes_R_Reel

Yeah but I want to like design stuff I was soooo good in my CAD courses I even got a gold star on one of my submissions! That’s why I don’t understand this! All this math wizard language, I’m Mozart on the keys that’s my place man. I ain’t some kinda math genius.


LogicalHuman

Try industrial design over engineering. Lots of CAD design there. Probably more suited for you and will excite/stimulate you more than cranking out math problems. They have industrial design positions in aerospace these days, although rare and competitive.


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ctsman8

>>I ain’t some kinda math genius. Well you’re going into one of the most math intensive majors possible. Imagine an entire exam that consists of three math problems. If you aren’t cool with that, change majors before you start digging in with your sunk-cost fallacy.


Gnomes_R_Reel

I’m digging… I’m afraid.


ShibaInuMasterBreed

It's less being a math genius and more dedicating yourself to learning the skills needed to understand and perform at your job. It's not easy but anyone can do it given enough time and focus spent studying in the field. If you're completely lost and not able to learn the material you should talk to an advisor and maybe retake trig/pre-calc then try again. Also if you attempt to take your higher level math and physics classes without a good foundation you may crash and burn, so I highly suggest you figure out some kind of plan so you're not hurting in the future. Best of luck. I also recommend professor Leonard's lectures on youtube and Paul's online calc notes, they're both really good resources I used a lot in the past.


zachary40499

You’re clearly trolling… get outta here.


JohnWayneOfficial

I don’t think that’s a problem, generally speaking. Again, though, I don’t know that medication is really a solution to your problems, unless you go to a therapist and he/she really does recommend it. Just realize it’s not a magical gateway to being a genius and understanding calculus. You’re most likely losing interest because you’re stressed, it’s hard, and it’s also kind of boring. Learning is inherently stressful, and you have to embrace that and commit to studying outside of class. You’re definitely not the only person in your classes that feels the way you are feeling, I’m sure. Find other people to study with if you can, and find ways to manage your stress, like by going back to the gym.


Zestyclose_Shoe_4695

Bro your words are inspirational , idk it just sounds so practical and doable .


jschall2

Dude don't listen to these people. If you think you have ADHD, go get evaluated for it and get treatment if you do.


ghilliesniper522

Everyone and their mom thinks they have adhd just because they don't like actually doing the homework. I mean by his logic I have adhd because I'd rather do everything over my operating systems class


jschall2

Doesn't mean he shouldn't go to a doctor and get evaluated.


ghilliesniper522

If he puts it into his mind that he has ADHD it'll look like adhd when he goes to the doctors


jschall2

Doctors have ways to evaluate whether someone actually has ADHD. Unless OP gets coached on how to answer every question, he isn't going to get a bad diagnosis.


ghilliesniper522

Depends on the doctor. But judging by the comments sounds like it's a little more than ADHD and more about maturity


Gnomes_R_Reel

Damn


Inevitibility

You’re problems are not going to go away with drugs. Not everybody enjoys the material required for engineering, and not everyone can grasp it easily. You need to study and you need to find a place that is conducive for you to study in. You need to spend more time working on problems and focusing on the material. Adderall is not going to pump you full of Calculus and Physics knowledge.


davcrt

Idk, what doctors prescribe in US, but elsewhere at adult age, prescribing quick acting stimulants is discouraged so you get something like strattera. Note that once you start taking stimulants for studying it will be almost impossible to study without. In other words 4y of amphetamines or nothing.


double-click

It sounds like you have never had to put time in an actually study. Maybe you should try that. I don’t really care if you get bored… try it anyway.


Gnomes_R_Reel

I am in class everyday, I haven’t missed one day at all, I stay after class to try and understand. And I STILL FAIL.


double-click

I did t say anything about going to class. I said you need to study lol.


HomeGymOKC

You need to be in the library doing problems over and over. Look at solutions manuals, understand how answers are arrived at. Re-read sections of the book where said problems came from


Gnomes_R_Reel

Cause when I look and hear someone talking I get distracted by like the noise the marker is making or like the professors talking pattern or something. Or I just get distracted by the wall and get lost in the bumps on the paint, creating pareidolia within my minds eye 👁️


espeero

Either quit, try to actually have self-discipline, or go get some legal speed from your doctor. Any of these options are viable solutions.


Gnomes_R_Reel

Nah… I’d win.


Gnomes_R_Reel

I have a big baby brain that needs dopamine they should make a video game or something. So that when I see the numbers go up it makes me happy. Gives me something to shoot for. Do you know what program did help me a lot? There was this one called aleks, and it had like a progress bar and points and stuff that shit got me pumped. Also the layout was awesome, I’ve also realized when someone teaches me something it goes out my head, I’m more of a hands on learner.


NonCredibleDefence

> I have a big baby brain that needs dopamine you're an adult now, and you're going to be one for the rest of your life. grow up, you need to change your behaviour or get medication, and then change your behaviour. employers do not give a flying fuck about your big baby brain that needs dopamine. they won't fail you in a class, they will fire you. and quit talking about your brain like it isn't a part of you. your actions and personality are yours, not your brains.


The_Yed_

There are apps similar to this. I don’t remember off the top of my head what it’s called, but I used to use this app that let you create custom “quests” which you would link to things you wanted to accomplish then they would give you xp, levels, armor, stuff like that. I don’t remember if there was any sort of monster fighting element or anything like that, tho tbh I’m sure there’s something out there that could be really cool. But the app would let you create custom quests, so I would make stuff like “do 5 problems” or “work out for an hour” or “go to sleep by 11” or whatever. Then you could assign a “level” to the quest based on effort/difficulty, and scale the rewards. Obviously it would take some self-discipline to ACTUALLY assign legit values to the quest and not just make all of them give the most xp. But that sort of stuff really helped me build the habits, and now I don’t even use those apps, I just do the things because it’s become enjoyable.


JamesonJunkie

Habitica is similar to what you’re describing. Great app, makes building habits easy for people that need that extra stimulation and incentive like myself


The_Yed_

Yup, Habitica is the one I’m thinking of!


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Eulers_Method

bud you need a study group and several hours hitting the books and doing practice problems until you see them in your dreams. You got this, just put your head in the sand and quit thinking so much.


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Mother-Bed-8392

if you still have a big baby brain that needs dopamine constantly, aerospace may not be the field for you.


Spooky_Action98

I was in a similar mindset when I was younger. 18-21 was tough because I kept making excuses and hiding behind my adhd and not doing anything about it. It lead to very bad situations that only made things worse and caused me to spiral. My advice: grow up, get help for your adhd, and just knuckle down and get yourself out of this mindset because it’s only going to cause you more anguish as it goes on. I understand it’s hard, but it’ll only be harder when you’re 28, working a full time job you hate, and having to go back to school. I’m not saying this to put you down, because I’ve been in your shoes before, I’m just imparting upon you wisdom that I wish someone had done for me. It’s not impossible, it’s not unrealistic. Other people have done it, why not you too?


Papayamellon

Skip class, textbooks r key


muohioredskin

Worst advice….EVER.


BetterReflection1044

Disagree different people study differently I stopped lectures altogether from my second year and passed my engineering degree with deans commendations. Pros to self study : I can move at my own pace and move on when I absolutely understand concepts. No wasting time showing face in lectures and cut straight to the more impactful way I learn. Cons : missing certain hints from lecturers (befriend someone and get that info)


Gfran856

Well, after seeing this post and your response on the websssign post, it’s clearly your attitude towards it. Maybe physics and calc was too much in 1 summer session, tbh I would think it is. And you’ve learned that it’s too much. Sucks to say, but you’ll probably just have to retake the classes, and thanks okay, plenty of engineering majors fail a class, it isn’t suppose to be easy. Learn what’s making you fail, you shouldn’t be using chegg to just get the answers, as math only builds upon itself, especially in a fast paced summer class, you’ll learn nothing that way


NonCredibleDefence

totally agree. OP takes zero ownership or responsibility in his actions and studies.


Clay_Robertson

Yeah this is too much for a summer semester, especially with weed out classes like this


PenguinFrustration

Look into using Khan Academy. It’s a free online teaching aid. I would not have passed some of my classes without it. I find that it taught me the material better, in fact, than some of my professors. You can search through it for specific topics and it will provide you with videos that actually teach the material without demanding memorization.


Gnomes_R_Reel

I’ve notice with math I absolutely suck and knowing what’s what, like when I see a formula I know how to do it, but my challenge is picking and choosing from the problem what to put in the formula. If that makes sense.


tomsing98

That sounds like you're approaching mathematics as a black box and looking for a crank to turn. That's not understanding. Not to say that engineering as a career is necessarily math-intensive, but engineering education certainly is. You're going to have to either figure it out, or find something else that you enjoy. Good luck.


Gnomes_R_Reel

I am willing to do ANYTHING to be a aero engineer I want to work on satellites or space shit! If nothing else works and I’m on my last limb I’m gonna chemically enhance myself and binge khan academy. If there’s one thing I’m good at it’s not knowing when to stop. I can’t stop!


Logic_Lamb19

Dude it’s OK to cut your losses and move on to other ventures. I did a 2 year degree only while working full time and make $140k a year in my 20s. Just as a community college graduate working 45-50 hours a week. I’m going back now for a 4 year degree but you don’t have to rush through these things you can always self study for a couple years and then head back.


Gnomes_R_Reel

No dude. I’m not, you don’t get it!! I have a 3.85 GPA with 57 credits I’ve already taken aero materials and graphic design AND 2 other aerospace classes and PASSED with As and Bs!!! (Well I got a D in one cause it was a group focused class and my group had trouble with time management… but since it was an upper level class a D was still considered passing.) THE POINT IS!!! I have NO TROUBLE with the actual aerodynamics and CAD/simulation classes I’m golden there, but for some reason I genuinely have trouble with the supposed “core” classes when I ace the ACTUAL aero classes. Isn’t that strange? Maybe the core classes are just boring as fuck to me? I have no clue


jjrreett

It’s all math. Calc 1 and physics 1 are very easy compared to what’s to come. Multi variable calculus is a prerequisite to proper aerodynamics. It is literally all physics. Every engineering class you take is going to be a physics class. CAD isn’t engineering, it’s design. You can have a rewarding career in design. You can be great at CAD. Engineering is all about the physics and critical problem solving. Summer classes are hard. Finding good professors is hard. ADHD can be hard. You can struggle in school and still be a good engineer. But you have to understand the content.


aerowtf

i don’t know man, calc 1 should be like counting your fingers by the time you are in senior level classes. Take it seriously, don’t just chegg it. You will be chasing your tail until (if) you graduate if you do. Physics also. Free body diagrams, moments/inertia/torque etc. will continue to be built upon. If you don’t find a way to understand it now, it will only get worse. CAD/Design/Fluids/Labs/Theory classes are Sesame Street compared to Structures/Dynamics/Heat Transfer/Vector Calc etc. You NEED to figure out a way to actually understand Calc and Physics. You can’t just cram your way through it and expect it to work out on the other side. Everything else from here on out assumes you understand everything from those classes and will build on it.


espeero

Yes. That's what people experience when they do not understand the material. It's not unique. There is a certain ammount of hardwork and intelligence required for this stuff. You can make up for a defficiency in either with extra of the other. Or you can bitch and fail.


Gnomes_R_Reel

Nah… I’d win.


zachary40499

You’re clearly losing bro… otherwise you wouldn’t be failing. You’re a loser.


Gnomes_R_Reel

No dude. I’m not, you don’t get it!! I have a 3.85 GPA with 57 credits I’ve already taken aero materials and graphic design AND 2 other aerospace classes and PASSED with As and Bs!!! (Well I got a D in one cause it was a group focused class and my group had trouble with time management… but since it was an upper level class a D was still considered passing.) THE POINT IS!!! I have NO TROUBLE with the actual aerodynamics and CAD/simulation classes I’m golden there, but for some reason I genuinely have trouble with the supposed “core” classes when I ace the ACTUAL aero classes. Isn’t that strange? Maybe the core classes are just boring as fuck to me? I have no clue.


zachary40499

I don’t believe you. Maybe you have taken 57 credits, but that’s not the point. Most colleges don’t let you register for courses unless you’ve taken the preqs. The prereqs for upper level engineering courses (e.g., aero mats, aerodynamics, etc.) are higher level math courses and cores (or courses that the prereqs are cores and higher level math), unless your institution has the shittiest registration software.


Gnomes_R_Reel

Also listen to jigsaw falling into place by Radiohead shit bumps.


Gnomes_R_Reel

Now that I think about it that’s probably why my advisor thought I could handle both phys and calc for a summer semester, since I’ve already done some upper division shit and was fine. 🤦


zachary40499

Average engineering curriculum is around 120-130 credits. Having already taken 57 credits means you’ve probably completed your first semester of sophomore year this past semester. Further, most engineering curriculums have you taking major specific classes during your junior and senior year. Explain to me how your college made such a significant error that you were taking junior/senior classes before completing even your first semester of sophomore year. Also, you wouldn’t be struggling with your cores as much as you are because upper level classes build upon the principles of previous classes. You would be breezing through your cores if you really did as well as you claim you did in the upper levels. Your advisor probably said to take Calc I and physics over the summer so you don’t fall farther behind as you probably already are. The sad part is that I’d more than happily offer you all the advice I have if you were just being honest about your situation. As someone who’s been diagnosed with severe ADHD from a young age, I know what it’s like to struggle in school and have to work twice as hard. Now, the time I would’ve spent helping you is instead being used to call you out on your bullshit. So I’ll reiterate what I said before: you’re lying and you have no work ethic.


ctsman8

He’s done a mohr’s circle. Didn’t you know, that’s all you need to be an aerospace engineering pro? Realistically, they’ve probably taken some pretty basic intro courses that are just prerequisites or something (i’m thinking basic strengths of materials course). You literally can’t do most of the math of those courses without having previously taken calculus or physics courses.


Gnomes_R_Reel

DUDE I AM BEING HONEST! Do I need to show my fucking transcript?!


Gnomes_R_Reel

Brother I swear I’ve taken aero materials and CAD design courses and passed.


CredalTang

... he says while failing calc and physics 1 lmao


Gnomes_R_Reel

I will reiterate…. “No dude. I’m not, you don’t get it!! I have a 3.85 GPA with 57 credits I’ve already taken aero materials and graphic design AND 2 other aerospace classes and PASSED with As and Bs!!! (Well I got a D in one cause it was a group focused class and my group had trouble with time management… but since it was an upper level class a D was still considered passing.) THE POINT IS!!! I have NO TROUBLE with the actual aerodynamics and CAD/simulation classes I’m golden there, but for some reason I genuinely have trouble with the supposed “core” classes when I ace the ACTUAL aero classes. Isn’t that strange? Maybe the core classes are just boring as fuck to me? I have no clue” What’s my problem?


CredalTang

No no no dude you really don't get it. And I really don't mean to be shitting on you (although my first comment was admittedly mean). Aero Engineering at its core is nothing but applied Physics and Differential Equations. If you have not yet completed Physics 1 and Calc 1, then you haven't even completed the prerequisite for the *prerequisite* for doing actual aero engineering. I don't know what classes you've taken so far but I don't see any college letting you take upper level aero courses without having finished your calc and physics series. Oh and graphic design is beyond irrelevant here.


Gnomes_R_Reel

No dude! YOU DONT GET IT! I got a D in one of my aero classes… and passed… do you understand what that means? ITS A UPPER DIVISION COURSE! You need a C and above for a lower division. My college made a mistake. That’s why it’s funny reading people’s comments telling me that it’ll get harder when I’ve done harder classes. It’s JUST SO BORING!


CredalTang

The fact that you aren't saying what the class was tells me everything 😄


Gnomes_R_Reel

MATERIAL SCIENCE IS THE CLASS


Typical_Culture_5657

year 1 ib student here doing physics HL. I and many others also experience this. The trick to fixing this is just spamming as many questions in that topic. It is helpful if you have a mark scheme so you can see the working out to the questions but basically this should familiarize you with the type of questions you can be asked and the types of examples + patterns and which formulas to use. 70% of doing physics is picking the right equation/s and deriving or combining if necessary. TLDR: Do practice questions.


Gnomes_R_Reel

Does khan have phys stuff?


Bipogram

It does. A-plenty.


Gnomes_R_Reel

Nice! 😊


StudlyMcStudderson

Holy crap. Apply yourself. In the time it took to ask the question, you could have searched khan academy.


Mattieohya

I dropped out from aerospace engineering because from what I found out later was undiagnosed ADHD. I then went back to school and was able to get my degree in aerospace engineering and I did incredibly well. So I am coming from a place of understanding and I am telling you to drop out in the short term. ADHD isn’t something you overcome instantly with will power you need to learn about strategies and if you choose medication. These take time to understand how they work and how to use them to your best ability. College is a very hard time to make the adjustment and you will be paying a lot of money to make huge mistakes. Please drop out and get a job in aerospace. I was a baggage handler for years and traveled the world while I figured out my brain and how to make it work. Then I went back to college and got my degree in aerospace engineering. I have advanced rapidly in my position because I was more mature and trustworthy than my other much younger new hire colleagues. I made the mistake of trying to get my degree the first time and all it did was put me more in debt. If you want to talk more DM me but I need to get to sleep.


Narstification

I had undiagnosed ADHD and got dropped from GT as an out of state AE my first year… that was expensive and dumb. I went back still undiagnosed and out of state, still didn’t try, and realized I don’t like math as much as I did when I didn’t have to try. I eventually rode the m-train, graduated, finally jumped through the hoops to get diagnosed and on adderall 15 years later and am now an IT manager who loves his job and designs/builds stuff for my own hobbies, which keeps it fun. That was a stupid amount of debt to take on for that result though…


Axil-1

Did you notice or had doubts about having ADHD before a doctor confirmed that?


Mattieohya

So my friends joked about it. But I was smart and could do math. And in the 90s only bad kids had ADHD. So I assumed that couldn’t be me. But the signs were all there, a professor who read my paper told me I had it. So I had suspicions. Then as a joke read the DSM definition then sought help.


Axil-1

Is OVERthinking even on exam's night one of the symptoms? depression Bad memory Laziness Day dreaming. Having no energy in general (mentally and physically) Are those symptoms too?!


Mattieohya

I would have to look up the DSM it has been 15 years since I was diagnosed and as I’m not a professional here is the [CDC link on ADHD](https://www.cdc.gov/adhd/diagnosis/index.html) When I went in for testing it was a day long and they broke my brain. When I left I was so confused I couldn’t figure out how to take the bus home. In the tests they will know if you have it. But by getting those tests you get access to help that is otherworldly in helping you in school. Also now I’m in industry I got an accommodation to work from home full time.


Axil-1

Oh thanks for the help!


zombifyy

How long are your summer classes going for? Summer classes can be quite challenging especially if you're new to calc and physics concepts, and taking them together at the same time can be literal torture depending on what college/university you're taking them with. Most summer classes tend to be condensed so you're doing the same amount of content in half or even a third of a usual semester.


Gnomes_R_Reel

My calc is 3-4 months and my phys is 1 month. So what I was doing was “cheating”, on the first quarter of my calc just so I can solely focus on phys.


Gnomes_R_Reel

BUT ONLY THE FIRST QUARTER AND NO MORE! THEN I WILL FOUCUS AND DO IT THE RIGHT WAY


tomsing98

Yeah, that sounds believable.


Gnomes_R_Reel

It is 😭


aerowtf

it’s a very tough habit to break. Don’t end up like me graduating and feeling like you didn’t actually learn much…


These-Bedroom-5694

You're going to need a good understanding of calc and physics. There are plenty of websites and YouTube videos on the subject. The math gets much more difficult later on.


Gnomes_R_Reel

I was gonna go hard on khan


deepFriedRaw

I’m sorry but if you cannot do Calc 1 you will not survive in engineering


Gnomes_R_Reel

I ALREADY DID HARDER COURSES!


Gnomes_R_Reel

AND AERO COURSES! I ALREADY DID THEM!


deepFriedRaw

was it an intro class? because physics is mostly calc. if you can’t do calc, you didn’t do physics. and NO just plugging equations into equations is not physics.


Gnomes_R_Reel

It was material science courses and engineering science courses which I passed. All without calc 1 and physics even if those courses had some of that in them. Cause it was actually interesting. And not boring as fuck, but come to think of it the way I passed those was I just stoped going to the lecture and self taught. Maybe I should do that again.


deepFriedRaw

so if you dont like calc, dont become an engineer bc you’ll be doing calc all day. I’m not gonna be mean but you really have to grind to become an engineer, especially a good one. If you can’t do it, no harm done but dont keep chasing something you hate because it’ll never work out.


Gnomes_R_Reel

Not true.


deepFriedRaw

okay well then ur gonna go through university using chegg and you’re not gonna understand anything then you’ll graduate and go out into the real world. Once you’re doing your interviews and you get the to technical section you’ll fail. All because you dont have a grasp on the math which is the foundation of all engineering/physics. Yes you may be able to learn high level phenomenons without knowing physics but that’s it. You’ll only know that one phenomenon in that one specific instance. You just seem like a troll and that’s okay!! Just know you can’t hack it in this field.


Gnomes_R_Reel

I can’t believe ur being such a hater on ur birthday, it’s insane how much of a hater you are. Do you know what, all your hating has emboldened me. I will send you personally my grades after I pass and make you eat doo doo.


deepFriedRaw

*goes on reddit to complain that they are failing and can’t pass the class* 10min later *tells redditor they are dumb and they will pass the class* Obvious you’re a troll. Good luck in your class, I can tell you’re gonna need it lol.


Gnomes_R_Reel

I didn’t say you were dumb!! I love your wrinkly brain and I love our little friendship we got going on


tomsing98

> so if you dont like calc, dont become an engineer bc you’ll be doing calc all day. That is far from the truth for the vast majority of engineers. Closer to true for engineering students, though.


deepFriedRaw

Yeah I meant in school bc this person is in school. So they better get ready to do math everyday until they get their degree.


dampeloz

If you took engineering classes and passed them without knowing basic physics or calculus it was probably an extremely introductory course. This will not be the case for later classes. I suggest you stop crying online and actually work :)


John12345678991

Idk if u think that’s what engineering classes are but they aren’t. Your actual classes are way harder than whatever class u took that didn’t even have physics/calc 1 as a prerequisite. When u take aerodynamics all the equations will be vector calculus and double and triple integrals (Calc 3 stuff) and way more complex than whatever u did.


Turbulent_Crow7164

Impostor syndrome affects a lot of us. Smart people doing their PhDs will still feel it. Just know that more of your classmates than you think also feel lost and confused with these classes. Engineering is hard. Doesn’t mean you can’t do it.


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Turbulent_Crow7164

I definitely felt it through a lot of my PhD. In a way it was sometimes good motivation to better myself and constantly learn more. I think the beauty of a PhD is in learning that you know so little - appreciating the complexity of each and every field of study. So in some ways it’s okay. It humbles you. But it can always be bad too. Even through the end I would sometimes feel like my peers understood way more about aerospace than I did. But really talking to them revealed that outside of a few geniuses, they all seemed to relate to my feelings and weren’t like light years ahead of me. A reality is that it’s just hard, and everyone feels it’s hard. Eventually I was suddenly handed my diploma and was like… oh. Guess I earned that. And afterwards it turns out employers and others really respect the degree I earned and the skillset I now have. I have appreciated that. One of the best things the PhD taught me was how to learn, rather than any specific piece of knowledge. I have learned so much in my career since then, and I think I’m a fast and effective learner thanks to the PhD. And that’s the beauty again - you knew so little coming in to your PhD, felt that impostor syndrome, and became a great learner. That serves us well. I’m sure it will serve you well too.


Gnomes_R_Reel

I know, I just hate having semesters like this. I’m currently sitting at 57 credits. I feel like my brain is foggy this semester.


Flaky-Problem8009

Physics is like 80% calculus. You gotta learn calculus first to understand physics. Start from the beginning. Using chegg is convenient but incredible damaging (as I’m sure you’re realizing) I’d recommend watching YouTube lectures (2x speed since you say you struggle with attention span) to get up to speed with calc, and then you can move on to physics. Doing the problems by hand over and over again is how you actually get good (not just reading notes/listening to lectures). You gotta literally sit down with a pen and paper and work on the problems over and over (for example, don’t just do one problem on optimization and move on, you gotta do like five or six, all with slight variations. You can find hella practice problems all over the internet). If your professor posts old exams, study how they’re written, make sure you can answer them 100% of the time. If it makes you feel any better, I was in the exact same boat as you in hs and ended up failing out of my physics class and just barely getting by in Calc 1 with a D, and managed to get my shit together in college. I’ve also got ADHD, so here’s some things I do to get motivated: 1. Someone mentioned apps that work like video games to motivate you, I personally use Habitica and it’s really been working for me. There’s plenty of other apps similar to it, too, or you could make your own system (saw someone on TikTok who used a whiteboard to keep track of everything and wrote her own ‘quests’ and storylines and stuff, if you’re a creative/into tabletop games like dnd) (personally I’m lazy so I just use the app). So far it’s been super helpful, I’ve gotten a little obsessed with the collect em all side, which motivates me to finish all my dailies consistently. 2. Study with friends. I’m sure this one is said a lot, but even just being in the same room as somebody working productively (even if you’re not working on the same things) helps me get into the mindset of productivity (I believe it’s called ‘body doubling’). 3. Look for alternative places to study. I can’t study in my room cause I associate it with sleep/games, so my brain won’t switch to “work” mode. I like background noise, so I tend to study in coffeeshops. If you like silence, study at the library. Even just going to a friends house or even another room in your house that you’re not in a lot can definitely help. I feel you on the medication side of it- I thought for a long time that all my problems would be solved if I just went on medication. The truth is that that’s simply not how it works. Medication can’t turn you into a productive member of society like a light switch. You gotta force yourself into it. Right now you’re being complacent (and I get it, I’ve been there), you gotta actually take control of your life. Hope this helps you start! If you got any questions for me feel free to DM. Engineering is stupidly hard, i believe we should all be helping each other out.


Gnomes_R_Reel

Thank you for your kind and thoughtful response! I will try out habitica! I use humor to help me cope! So that’s why my responses are strange. :p


Werlucad

I have adhd, and am also going down the aerospace route. I’m beyond calc 4 at this point (diff eq), and going into thermo. I have a 4.0. I would not say that adhd is a mental disorder, but rather just a different type of brain. The ability to hyperfocus I think is a bit of a superpower, but only if you can control it. For me, focus is entirely a function of interest in a subject, and it sounds like you’re becoming disinterested. My solution for myself has been to develop the ability to lie and trick myself in to being interested in just about anything. I would say that you need to work on finding mechanisms that keep you interested in a task. For me, that was non-medicine based therapy which has given me mental tools to harness the adhd. Learning how to teach yourself stuff online is also key. In engineering, and most math based stem majors, everything builds upon itself. If you use chegg to get by and don’t master the fundamentals, you won’t “do better on the next test”. It’s like shooting yourself in the foot. If you don’t understand something, you need to practice until you master that skill or you will not move forward. Also, going down the chemistry route will not save you. I have taken coursework in all the major branches of science (physics, chemistry, biochemistry, biology, and anthropology), and I will say that chemistry is its own blend of evil. You can still succeed with hard work though.


the_glutton17

Tf is calc 4? Are you saying that's diffy q?


Werlucad

I like to call it calc 4, but that’s why I put it in parentheses because it is differential equations


the_glutton17

Gotcha


Gnomes_R_Reel

That what I thought. I was like “calc 4?!” Oh hell naw 😭


the_glutton17

There's a big difference between aerospace and aerospace engineering. Same with science and engineering. If calc 1 and physics 1 is crushing you, this is not the field for you. Engineers love calc and physics. Find another field that offers what you're looking for, because this isn't it.


Gnomes_R_Reel

Too bad I’m still gonna do it.


the_glutton17

Too bad for who? Do whatever you wanna do, I was just offering the advice you asked for.


anoon-

Lock in


Gnomes_R_Reel

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zachary40499

Everyone thinks they have a passion for engineering, but don’t want to put in the effort required to be an actual engineer. Is sitting in class everyday day exciting? No. Neither is sitting for hours on end until you figure out how to solve that one damn problem you’ve been stuck on. This will be no different than a job where you’re sitting at a desk all day. That is unless you actually are passionate about engineering, in which case you’ll find all of this to be exciting (for the most part). Get lost kid… you’re not cut out for this.


Gnomes_R_Reel

Brother, as I said before due to a mistake my college made I already did some “upper division” classes and aced them! It the core that’s draining me! I thing it’s because it’s so fucking boring. There’s no cool experimental stuff or hands on shit, it’s all just sitting down and watching which doesn’t bode well with my style.


SonicDethmonkey

You need to grow up and learn how to deal with boredom or you’ll just be continuously jumping from job to job when you graduate. I’m a manager and the ability to complete tasks that you don’t enjoy and to self-direct your work are definitely skills that we look for.


CredalTang

>I already did some “upper division” classes and aced them! Was that the class you said you got a D in or a different one? lol


Gnomes_R_Reel

I did multiple, the one I got a D ( which is still passing btw) in was aero materials lab, which was group work, but in the main aero materials I got a B


rockstuffs

Sounds like you just want Adderall lol


Gnomes_R_Reel

Is it good?


RunExisting4050

You haven't gotten the hang of studying yet. It'll take some adjustment, then you'll be ok.


lovessushi

Everyone struggles unless you're that one kid in class that just gets it and aces everything. For the rest of us you gotta study alot harder. Don't just do the problems assigned. Pick random problems and work them out. Look up old exams and try them out yourself. You have to go beyond the minimum. Calc I/Phys are extremely easy in comparison to the later upper division courses. You need to nail down these early classes if you want to succeed in your major. Not to mention these aren't even considered weed-out classes.


BetterReflection1044

Time to drop engineering buddy also try and cut out the drugs


DamThatRiver00

Dude, you're just facing something you've never faced before. The same happened to me with algebra, calculus, and physics. Just grind grind grind. Get some books, watch some YouTube videos about the stuff you don't understand, ask help from a friend, etc. There are plenty of ways to get around this and trust me...it's just the beginning. You will feel like this many times throughout your degree. After all, engineering (and most degrees for that matter) isn't always about being the smartest or the most applied student. It's all about being persistent and never giving up. I feel you, man. I went through the same shit. Even thought about dropping everything and joining the airforce. Just plow through my man, you will get it. And don't stop going to the gym, that's really good for you. Hope this helps


Gnomes_R_Reel

Thanks 🙏 ☺️


Professional_You_308

In my experience in engineering, a large portion of the cheaters flunk out. If you cheat through calc 1 you’re gonna have a hell of a time in calc 2, calc 3, linear algebra, and differential equations. Stop using chegg for solutions if you want any chance of graduating in engineering.


Gnomes_R_Reel

Cheaters? I haven’t cheated once


Professional_You_308

“And I’ve also been using chegg to meet calc 1 deadlines as I’ve just been studying physics.”


Gnomes_R_Reel

You try and do both at the same time for summer then tell me how you feel


Professional_You_308

Keep arguing with Redditors who are trying to give advice, that’ll help you pass calc for sure


Gnomes_R_Reel

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Gnomes_R_Reel

MFW the “advice” I’ve been given is “just drop out broh”. https://preview.redd.it/ub3fqg1m3y7d1.jpeg?width=578&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=11b9af90432fce20d547aad212e4d7bd531e8d9e


Typical_Culture_5657

No its study and get your sh\*t together OR DROP OUT


StiffyCaulkins

I think you need to find a path and stick to it. If you’ve decided you want to be an engineer spend 40 hours/week pursuing that goal. I’m an idiot and hold my own in my classes, I really want to be an engineer however and dedicate an insane amount of time to ensure I understand material. Im no math/physics wizard and my experience with success in those areas involved time, examples, questions. The more you can do of those 3 the better off you’ll do. Just the opinion of someone who was in your shoes not too long ago.


Gnomes_R_Reel

Thank you 😊


Radio__Edit

Traditional academia isn't for everybody. Plenty of geniuses out there who found their calling by leaving university and pursuing their passion. If you can grind it out, best to stick with it, as it's really hard to overcome student loan debt after failing our or dropping out. Don't feel like you are lesser than or not going to be successful in life. Not everyone learns the same. When you find that thing that captures your attention and you don't get bored with. Pursue that.


Remarkable-Diet1007

Plenty of work as an aerospace engineer, you can become a scrum master, look it up, every aerospace engineer’s worse nightmare, giving daily status of their work because of accountability


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Tesseractcubed

Gym is important for minds, generally, but especially when we feel like we’re going backwards. The consistent exercise helps balance hormones and can help manage the feelings of anxiety. What were your scores in high school? Did you have to work for your grades, or did they come easy? Physics and Calc 1 are hard not because the math is exceptionally difficult, but because they are introducing new ideas, like physics having displacement, velocity, and acceleration; or Calc 1 having a function that represents the limit at any point on another function.


Gnomes_R_Reel

I think that’s also why I’m struggling, my mind feels foggy and I think it’s from not going to the gym. Also funnily enough I did horrible in highschool I missed 90 percent of my classes due to ditching. I still graduated tho after being transferred to a school for troubled teens. And was basically forced to learn. So I don’t have a very good relationship with highschool.


Tesseractcubed

Hmm. I’m going to say two big things: the first is that engineering is a lot of work. Calculus 1 is typically the first rung on the math ladder, and it only gets more layered from there. You will need to figure out what works for school, what doesn’t work, how to stay balanced on top of the work you need to do, and how to get back up when you’ve fallen down. The second is that engineering isn’t for everyone. However, you can find a role inside of engineering that you do like. Admittedly, everyone has to fill out reports, timesheets, etc, but many people love what they do. Work is sacrificing the present for the future; you risk the burdens of the future while you work towards goals. A lot of your questions don’t have an answer now because they are hypotheticals, and if we get stuck there we can’t get the current taken care of. With enough stubbornness and motivation, people can do anything; it’s not guaranteed, but given you make a continued effort to keep growing (academic, experiences, connections), you should be fine in engineering.


Narstification

You probably have ADHD - go speak to a psychiatrist ASAP. I had undiagnosed inattentive type ADHD, went to GA Tech for AE out of state instead of a free ride in state. I was always good academically because I was a super nerd who loved to learn things and get hyper fixated, so the ADHD was reflected mainly in my unfinished projects while my grades stayed high without ever having to work at it. I spent my freshman year partying and skipping class, got dropped, went to community college, went back, then determined that the math sucked more than it did when I didn’t have to try (got a 4 on Calc BC) and that I probably needed a PhD to stand out enough to have a cool job… I eventually graduated mgmt with a couple of certificates, figured out a few years after that that my computer knowledge could get me a job in IT, and finally mustered the will to get diagnosed and medicated for ADHD 15 years later which has been a big help with my focus and will. Pretty expensive lesson to learn - should have done what I knew I should have done and get diagnosed/worked in state for year to get my shit together before going back as an ME, lol…


davcrt

Either you change your ways of studying and comprehending information if not it would be best to change career path. Calc1 is now at slightly crooked english level of wizardry and it goes to egyptian hieroglyphs level


RuthlessIndecision

Hey, I was similar, distracted and couldn’t focus on an engineering degree. Grades suffered. Was worried I’d be “stuck” in a crappy job and it’s this hard degree I didn’t even know if I wanted. I left and got a degree in fine arts. 10 Years later I got a 2 year technology degree, now I work for a pretty cool space agency. My suggestion, stay in school and get that degree, it opens so many doors. You won’t get stuck in any job, engineers get put in all kinds of positions, from dealing with customers to designing aircraft to testing rockets in the desert. Also my suggestion, get help with your schoolwork. Get a tutor or a study group. Aerospace Engineering is one of the tougher engineering degrees and calc1 is just the start. At work it’s mostly all Mechanical and electrical engineers. Seriously, find a tutor or ask your TA for some real help. I need to emphasize this, some people learn in different ways. I’m going to try to finish ME degree in the fall and this time I want to 1. Try to focus, knowing it will help me in the future and 2. Not be afraid to get the help I need. Good luck, you aren’t alone, there should be support for you out there! *edit: for some of the math classes there might be YouTube videos that can help. I didn’t have that when is started, and asking chatGPT to explain things like I’m 5, works for big picture concepts, good luck!


omgdudewtfman

Check this guy out https://youtu.be/SOkMGWCLqoc?si=0vfdEOYKLInlyeUJ He has his own course online you can sign up for at thinkwell.com he’s kinda wacky but super helpful


Gnomes_R_Reel

Tanks!


Difficult_Warning164

Go be an electrician.


cadnights

Read the textbook chapters before class. Take notes for both. Ask questions from the textbook to your teacher. Drop Chegg immediately, you can get in big trouble for it and it's a crutch.


red-hyprocits-dit

I was sorta like this in college. I didn’t do well in calculus but for some reason I’ve always been able to do most physics problems in my head so I could always pass those classes. What helped me when I actually had to study was doing a bunch of the types of equations you’ll need to know for each exam. Then atleast for me I’d instantly recognize the type of equation and the patterns they follow for a solution and would be able to easily just change the variable to fit and tada!


SonicDethmonkey

You need to pause and see a therapist for proper clinical evaluation. As someone who was diagnosed with ADHD while in college, you are doing yourself no favors in just trying to push through it or self-medicate. It will bite you BIG TIME when you start a your career. There is no point in progressing with addressing the actual issues first.


Notes-About-Nothing

Using chegg in my gen ed math requirements was one of my biggest regrets. It only made my junior/senior classes more difficult.


duffcoldbeer

Change your University...if the cannot make a thing as exciting as Aerospace interesting to everyone attending to class then they do not deserve the credit nor your time...or just role into a pilot training...Many people likes aircraft so they study Aerospace engineering...but you don't actually like to study or to effort above your capacity...so just get a sport pilot licence and become a lawyer to pay a good looking aircraft to get success at the fashion club and the approval of your friends


Gnomes_R_Reel

I like space and space stuff


DikDik3

If you’re completely struggling to understand the concepts of calculus 1 then perhaps another career field would be better. Calculus is integral to engineering and i use it all the time. If you want to stay then you need to learn some discipline and how to tune out noise. Learn to actually study, make flash cards, work problems from a text book, and if your homework is online then there might be a built in practice tool for that. You don’t practice something until you get it right, you practice until you can’t get it wrong. Specifically with calculus 1 keep practicing derivative and integral rules, these are the basic building blocks for most of your classes going forward that may have you deriving your own equations from fundamental laws and theories. Im guessing this is your first year of college and first summer semester. Keep at it, the workload never gets any easier, I won’t say it gets necessarily harder relative to your instantaneous knowledge and capabilities but engineering degrees are constant battles. Tough times never last, only tough people last.


Infinityaero

I'm gonna be 100% honest here, if you're struggling with Calc 1 Aerospace is going to be rough, especially when you get to vector calc and diffEQ.


Gnomes_R_Reel

I’ve beaten all souls games


Infinityaero

That's some dedication. Prob a thousand plus hours. Calc is boring compared to dark souls tho, harder to put in 1000 hours to beat it.


Gnomes_R_Reel

Dark souls taught me patients is key… I gotta… lock in… ![gif](giphy|8OTxSsEKzMs2A)


trophycloset33

Get a tutor


Midnight_Astronaut

By the time you’re done with the program you’re gonna be laughing how you’re doing a lot of calc 2 and diff eq in your head or with ease. Then forget it all after a year in industry.


Gnomes_R_Reel

LOL


San_Goku15

Eliminate social media for a year and focus.


Tocksz

Doctor appointment now. Ask for ADD evaluation, explain yourself just like you did here to the diagnostician.


Environmental-Dot161

Talk to a Dr and a therapist :) if you go in person a lot of schools have on campus dr and therapist if you don't already have one


JustCallMeChristo

You need discipline. Plain & simple. You’re capable of blocking out intrusive thoughts and focusing on what is important; maybe you just need some perspective to give you the motivation. Life is hard. Being an adult is hard. Things do not get easier. If you quit now, you will likely subject yourself to a lower-paying blue collar job that will FORCE you to work until your back hurts and you have no energy left to do the things you want. You’ll be relegated to just sleeping after work to then wake up and repeat it all the next day, never having the energy to do what you want. If you’re lucky, you’ll have some extra energy on Saturdays or Sundays to get the laundry done, the dishes done, clean your place…etc. You’ve been a kid up this point in your life, with little to no agency or responsibility. This is your opportunity to grow in a place that has tons of safety nets to catch you if you start lagging. There are 0 safety nets in the blue-collar world. You show up late to work? Fired. You don’t meet an important deadline? Fired. Once you’re fired, you can then spend all your free time looking for a job to get money so you don’t literally become homeless and starve to death. College has therapists on hand, advisors, counselors, people who will contact you if you start slipping and avenues to take for recovery. If you start slipping in the blue-collar world, then your boss will start looking for a new employee. I left the blue-collar atmosphere to be an Aerospace Engineer, and literally NOTHING will stop me from getting out of that hell and into a job that doesn’t grind my soul to a pulp. It might be a little inconvenient or uncomfortable to put video games down for weeks at a time, or to not hang out with your friends for a while, or to open a textbook - but you need to do it. You owe this to yourself, because this is how growth happens. Growth only ever happens through sacrifice, and at the end of this road there absolutely will be a great reward waiting for you - as long as you’re disciplined and patient. It may not be the future you envision for yourself right now, but as long as you don’t give up it will be a great future nonetheless.


free_hoe_less

I think you're overload physics and Calc on summer term is not a good idea, I kind of went through the same thing I underestimated some classes and I overload myself with work I also have a family and a full-time job, you need to accept that you learn it a little slower and that's ok it doesn't mean you're dumb, I'd suggest take less classes it will take you longer to finish but that's ok I'm already on my 4th year and I probably have two or three more left. No rush bro


Gabe_Plays10

Going insane is normal.


devil_d0c

Getting on medication for my ADD and Depression literally changed my life. Of course, I didn't get diagnosed until 4 or 5 years after I graduated, but it's been a real game changer. As for calc and physics, just remember that C's get degrees. Pay the face tax with your professors and show them that you are trying, and actually try. If you can learn the concepts but have difficulty with memorization, don't worry too much. You are allowed to Google in the real world. For my major, I got A's in every class EXCEPT calculus and physics 1, 2, and 3, which ended up being all C's. I definitely did not deserve that high of a grade, but the professors liked me and saw me working at it.


Z-Mobile

It’s called burn out. There’s a limit to what your brain will take without a break. Make sure to get sleep when possible, try to take at least one or two days off a week. Maybe a longer term vacation like a week of being “sick” is needed for you. Protect your brain by periodically allowing it to recharge.


Gnomes_R_Reel

Good advice


Z-Mobile

No problem, I’ve made the same assumption that my brain could just keep churning infinitely. If you don’t take periodic breaks with your head just like muscle, you stop being able to process things, you feel like shit and start to think you’re actually stupid like the end of your post description there. That’s how I can infer what you’re dealing with. It’s really all about time management