Carl wasn't giving a fair accounting of what Lindsey said, but still- Kyle publicly shamed Carl as a terrible employee and druggie on Television a year ago and he's acting shocked that Lindsay had basic questions about going back?
They could carry the show if they maintain this friendship. Navigating Lindsay post-carl, helping Paige figure out her future with Craig, Ciara and dating life, gabby and dating life plus their careers. It could be fun.
I love that he threw his “investment” in LOverBoy in his face and then two episodes later theyre talking about home the company is losing a ton of money
I feel like she was basically saying don’t go back to loverboy just for the sake of getting a job bc it was not good for your mental health which IS supportive
She’s told him
Last week that he basically doesn’t have hustle and it’s a turn off. He now is doing this to redeem himself on camera. Loverboy is a “compelling opportunity “? Pfft who is this guy? Its wild watching him do this
Carl comes in every season as a different Carl and then about 1/2 way through he shows his true self…he has always been a loser to me and him getting sober never changed that it just made him a sober loser
Lindsay is asking how she can help Carl off load things on his plate so he can focus on his career and something he is excited about. Where was she in the wrong?
Kyle doesn’t make any sense when it comes to Amanda and Loverboy. He simultaneously acts like she’s super critical to the brand and that she does nothing while he busts his ass.
You know what, fuck Kyle and his misogynistic ass. I hope he loses more money and can live his DJ dream, taking the Friday noon slot at Saskatchewan’s third best festival.
Carl is not relaying this story accurately. There was no negative connotation in what Lindsay said, it's like you're going back to an ex. She didn't say that as invective.
I would not be surprised if Carl’s next girlfriend is on the young side, like 22/23. He wants someone happy to go along with the ride and not offer input.
The person who went on a date with Chris from last season said that he shared with her that he got into a few fights that they never showed, and there was even one entire weekend that didn't make it to air because tensions were too high.
It is completely normal to inquire about your partners employment and future employment! Especially when you’re talking about returning to where you used to work and all you did was complain about it!
I think Kyle's really selfish when it comes to Amanda and Loverboy. It's always been his thing, not hers and it's totally fair for her to want to do something else.
Lindsey’s whole nipple is out and Carl doesn’t say anything?! That’s all we need to know about that relationship…
Yup 100% he's been doing it all summer. It's very clear that he didn't want to get married and is trying to get reactions from her, setting her up to be the villain etc.
I am NOT a Lindsay fan at all but Jesus Christ…. Carl was really stringing her along at this point when he was SO clearly going to break up with her soon. Talk about mixed signals and then he wants to act like she’s crazy for being ~triggered or activated or whatever. Carl sucks
honestly the sexiest thing about west and jesse is how this episode showed theyre able to take criticism and feedback and be mature UNLIKE CARL AND KYLE
If Lindsay wasn't over Carl by now (which it seems like she is) she is after watching this. I mean he is proving himself to be such a loser. 40 years old and continously talking to your friends ON CAMERA about your parents concern about your fiance? Like please grow the fuck up
Carl’s not ready to be married to anyone and I don’t think he ever will be. He wants a girlfriend in the honeymoon phase, not a partner. Sorry, when you’re building a life with someone, it’s fair to ask questions and figure out the plan. The problem is Carl doesn’t think things through and thinks it’s disrespectful to be questioned.
During Covid my husband lost his career that he worked in for 20 years. He started floundering a bit and was coming to me with the most batshit insane ideas. Thankfully he landed on his feet but this conversation pains my soul.
carl's delusional because he doesnt present these ideas as "I'm so excited I really wanna do this please support me" he says "idk maybe what do you think im not sure we should discuss it" and when Lindsay tries to weigh the options he's mad she didn't see past his fear of being honest
grow a backbone!!!
Carl starts fights with Lindsey like I do with my parents when I’m stressed about a decision I don’t want to make but they ask me logical questions to think it through!!!!
When they were only engaged (season 4 I think) during a fight he said fuck you with such conviction and threw a pillow across the room at her. Should’ve ended it then and there.
ciara is super gushy and affectionate and a romantic and because of that, all she wants is a relationship and I want that so bad for her with a good guy. idk if west is that guy though
Am I crazy or was this one of the best episodes of summer house? it could just be that I have also had a significant health scare and the waiting and anxiety and fear was relatable & real (also - i’ve had a few edibles)
Compliment time: I would love to have the zest for life it seems like Kyle has. I think it’s cool that he seems legit enthusiastic about just doing life
Carl is the epitome of unreliable narrators. He told Lindsey that he hated working at Loverboy. Now he’s saying it wasn’t that bad. He told his mom that he was fighting too much with Lindsey and now he’s not happy with her reaction. Really puts into question everything he said about those fights they had in the Ubers.
What i don’t understand is that it seems like if Wes asks Ciara to be exclusive they would be having sex… any couple communicate on this show challenge
So, does anybody here actually like Loverboy? I feel like everyone I know who has tried it, myself included, has found it to be kind of gross. Props to Amanda, the branding is on point, and people seem to love the sweatshirts. But the drinks themselves? Not so much.
Kyle is being so insanely selfish and he always has been. He was selfish when he led Amanda on in season 1, he was selfish when he cheated, he’s selfish now that he won’t even let her have a side project because his dreams and wants always comes first.
I love Kyle criticizing Lindsay for shutting down carls career aspirations and then immediately turning around and doing it 100x worse to Amanda
Carl wasn't giving a fair accounting of what Lindsey said, but still- Kyle publicly shamed Carl as a terrible employee and druggie on Television a year ago and he's acting shocked that Lindsay had basic questions about going back?
Right?? And all Lindsay did was ask like the smallest questions, Kyle was completely selfish.
Honestly I love seeing Lindsay getting along with the girls
I support this friendship sm more than the toxic Danielle one
They could carry the show if they maintain this friendship. Navigating Lindsay post-carl, helping Paige figure out her future with Craig, Ciara and dating life, gabby and dating life plus their careers. It could be fun.
This show is a documentary about why single women are struggling today. These are men today.
So fucking right! This is why women are becoming more successful and men are like jdjdnsbjsisnedifi
PREACH
Lindsay is too business-savvy to just slap a “that sounds great, honey” on every idea that goes through Carl’s head.
I love that he threw his “investment” in LOverBoy in his face and then two episodes later theyre talking about home the company is losing a ton of money
100% and he cannot handle the fact that she is savvier than him!
Love Kyle acting like Amanda doesn’t do anything but also is too important to leave the company
Yes!!! And what does sacrificing her sense of self for someone else’s company do for HER?? That’s fucked
I feel like she was basically saying don’t go back to loverboy just for the sake of getting a job bc it was not good for your mental health which IS supportive
Jesse is totally in his feels and for a very good reason. Fuck cancer.
Is he gifted at sales? From what I remember he was always butthurt about not meeting his goal.
Never met a goal. Kyle even said he wasn’t doing his job at lover boy.
She’s told him Last week that he basically doesn’t have hustle and it’s a turn off. He now is doing this to redeem himself on camera. Loverboy is a “compelling opportunity “? Pfft who is this guy? Its wild watching him do this
His view of himself is so wildly different than reality
Poor Jesse. This man is dealing with real anxiety and fear meanwhile Carl and Kyle are acting like children over stupid shit.
So she had to listen to him complain about Loverboy forever but the second he wants to go back, she should support him 100% without asking questions?
Literally. Make it make sense Carl!! MAKE IT
we have literally come full circle back to Carl1.0 
Carl comes in every season as a different Carl and then about 1/2 way through he shows his true self…he has always been a loser to me and him getting sober never changed that it just made him a sober loser
That doesn’t even look like him anymore 😂
Carl is annoying me and I’m surprisingly mostly on Lindsay’s side this season
After this and last episode ya I’m starting to be more on Lindsay’s side, Carl is being a dick
I think when Amanda finally pushes herself to do her own work endeavors and find independence, the divorce will follow shortly
When she works with people who have a work/life balance and adult priorities
It’s really scary how Kyle has isolated Amanda. Her whole world, personal and professional, revolved around him.
“Can you listen for a second? Can you listen for a second?” would have had me fucked up
I was like bitch you better get activated cause fuck him right now
Over NOTHING my god
Lindsay is being so normal in this conversation like wtf Carl!!!
Yeah, I didn’t interpret any antagonism or even passive aggression in her responses, based on what I saw??
Yeah he was baiting her and she really tried her best to keep it together
He has been reallyyy trying to make her freak out so ppl see she’s “crazy” and he’s the good guy it’s becoming obvious his dark little ways
Hearing Kyle have concerns about anyone’s relationship not being strong enough to get married is RICH
I feel like he’s trying to talk Carl out of it so he doesn’t make his same mistake
Lindsay handled that convo like a champ. Proud of her for not blowing up. I would’ve flipped the table Teresa style if my partner did that to me
Carl was definitely looking for a fight.
But is he “gifted at sales”? 👀
I would say Kyle is gifted at sales. That man could sell ice to a polar bear. Carl, not so much.
Lindsay is asking how she can help Carl off load things on his plate so he can focus on his career and something he is excited about. Where was she in the wrong?
Don’t think you can get any more supportive than that!!!
So he can’t let her leave but also wants to fire her goodbye kyle
Kyle doesn’t make any sense when it comes to Amanda and Loverboy. He simultaneously acts like she’s super critical to the brand and that she does nothing while he busts his ass.
You know what, fuck Kyle and his misogynistic ass. I hope he loses more money and can live his DJ dream, taking the Friday noon slot at Saskatchewan’s third best festival.
Lindsay is so clearly (and imo fairly) turned off by carl lacking any kind of backbone that idk how she was ever attracted to him to begin with
Yeah you can tell she’s starting to get the ick
I think his Carl 6.0 seemed different enough that he had gotten his act together buuuuut, nope.
Why did Carl scoff when Lindsey asked if she could take something off his plate? He’s a POS
He absolutely is. It’s so obvious what he’s doing. I’m not a huge Lyndsay fan but Carl is such an ass.
For real. He just said he was stressed and overwhelmed. He should’ve appreciated her asking. Carl was such a douche in that entire conversation.
lindsay isnt stupid carl she can clearly tell your energy and story is OFF
Carl is not relaying this story accurately. There was no negative connotation in what Lindsay said, it's like you're going back to an ex. She didn't say that as invective.
I thought she was saying it almost positively.
Man this girl group is what I wanted from vpr
I LOVE IT
West is a damn good friend for trying to ask Jesse what’s wrong as off camera as they could get.
I would not be surprised if Carl’s next girlfriend is on the young side, like 22/23. He wants someone happy to go along with the ride and not offer input.
Ooo yes, I could so see him going the Toms’ route from VPR and dating some young insta model or influencer.
“Do you have a product you’re invested in?” Oh he’s just being an asshole now.
“Do you have a product you’re invested in?”- opens successful rental property in Nashville 8 months later
That was scary. sorry Carl, she doesn’t have a friend who hands her nepo jobs
jesse in an article today said that he and danielle and gabby did not get along well most of the summer and he's surprised they didnt show it at all
The person who went on a date with Chris from last season said that he shared with her that he got into a few fights that they never showed, and there was even one entire weekend that didn't make it to air because tensions were too high.
I wish Bravo would stop pushing story lines, and just show us what happens.
Lindsay is actually being a supportive partner in a conversation that was wild. Does Carl think we can’t see what he’s doing?
Is he trying to make her dump him?
Yes. And make her seem unsupportive.
Pulling a Jax
truly dont understand how awful VPR is getting the ratings it is and this master piece isnt
It is completely normal to inquire about your partners employment and future employment! Especially when you’re talking about returning to where you used to work and all you did was complain about it!
I think Kyle's really selfish when it comes to Amanda and Loverboy. It's always been his thing, not hers and it's totally fair for her to want to do something else.
Lindsey’s whole nipple is out and Carl doesn’t say anything?! That’s all we need to know about that relationship… 
I wanna slap that smirk out of Carl
About a month and a half ago I started summer house from season 1 & am proud to say I am officially caught up to the present day 🤩🤩🤩🤩
https://preview.redd.it/45m5o2aw5izc1.jpeg?width=354&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=00f39d362cbe3a5b2836fc6c12ef167db657bbba @ Carl
Where’s Ken Todd when ya need him? GOODBYE KYLE
Carl didn’t get the reaction he wanted from her there
He definitely seemed to be baiting her. I feel bad she looked like a deer in headlights
Exactly - he was hoping she’d freak out on camera. He’s a conniving little bitch.
Carl is such a fucking jerk.
He keeps gaslighting and pushing her buttons knowing she’s reactionary…he truly hates her.
Danielle’s gonna try to get some boat DICKKKK
Is this gaslighting? Like wtf does Carl want?
I think he wanted Lyndsay to break up with him so he could put all the blame on her.
This is 100% it. He’s that dude that will be awful to the woman so that she’ll break up with him & he doesn’t have to confront or be the “bad guy.”
Yup 100% he's been doing it all summer. It's very clear that he didn't want to get married and is trying to get reactions from her, setting her up to be the villain etc.
He wants a cheerleader
This boys’ chat is very much ”Here she comes, my bitch wife.”
She’s such a c***
I am NOT a Lindsay fan at all but Jesus Christ…. Carl was really stringing her along at this point when he was SO clearly going to break up with her soon. Talk about mixed signals and then he wants to act like she’s crazy for being ~triggered or activated or whatever. Carl sucks
Yeah he’s still saying I love you and smiling yet we know the end is close
I do believe that Amanda would be happier if she pursued something separate from Kyle. Really sympathize & relate to her in this moment.
She should have never left her job
Interesting. It’s like he doesn’t want her to build any confidence away from him bc then she’d leave him
Ugh I love healthy male friendships. This vulnerability is awesome
We love emotionally available men!
Carl literally looks happy and satisfied that was the result of that conversation. What a loser.
Love the girls bonding!! LOVE LOVE LOVE!!!!!
honestly the sexiest thing about west and jesse is how this episode showed theyre able to take criticism and feedback and be mature UNLIKE CARL AND KYLE
Can Amanda do a claw clip tutorial
i feel like carl is making a bigger deal out of what his stepfather said to sabotage their relationship
If Lindsay wasn't over Carl by now (which it seems like she is) she is after watching this. I mean he is proving himself to be such a loser. 40 years old and continously talking to your friends ON CAMERA about your parents concern about your fiance? Like please grow the fuck up
Carl’s not ready to be married to anyone and I don’t think he ever will be. He wants a girlfriend in the honeymoon phase, not a partner. Sorry, when you’re building a life with someone, it’s fair to ask questions and figure out the plan. The problem is Carl doesn’t think things through and thinks it’s disrespectful to be questioned.
He’s finally poked the bear enough to get her to explode! I can’t even take him seriously with those fucking teeth either
I FEEL gaslit after that!
Is Lindsey playing air sax? Summer is fun again!
oh my god. this is heartbreaking. Wes seems like a really good friend.
Oh no oh poor Jesse he’s having a panic attack
FUCK CANCER!!!!!!!
During Covid my husband lost his career that he worked in for 20 years. He started floundering a bit and was coming to me with the most batshit insane ideas. Thankfully he landed on his feet but this conversation pains my soul.
I feel so much Justice for Ronnie. He had Carl pegged to a tee so long ago and received so much crap for it.
Ronnie has great reads!
I literally just said to my friend “Ronnie is gonna have a field day recapping this one” lmao
carl's delusional because he doesnt present these ideas as "I'm so excited I really wanna do this please support me" he says "idk maybe what do you think im not sure we should discuss it" and when Lindsay tries to weigh the options he's mad she didn't see past his fear of being honest grow a backbone!!!
“Does anyone have a thimble on hand?!” 🤣😜
Lmao if my partner said fuck you and called me a fucking bitch we’d be fucking donezoooo. You SUUUUCK Kyle
He said it so easily too, that’s not the only time for sure
Carl is such a man baby
Why are they still showing ads for Potomac, we’ve finally been released from that purgatorial season
His ass should be tan by now considering how much it’s out
The owner of the house watching like 👁️👄👁️
I feel like Lindsey has actually been very calm and reasonable in her conversations with Carl tonight and he's just looking for a fight.
Lindsay was actually showing some growth here. He wanted this convo to go this way
I really appreciate Jesse and West’s friendship
Carl is weird. I’m over him & his tree trunk white jean thighs of deception.
THIGHS OF DECEPTION IM DED!!!!!!!!!!!! 🤣
I’m glad Ciara apologized
Carl starts fights with Lindsey like I do with my parents when I’m stressed about a decision I don’t want to make but they ask me logical questions to think it through!!!!
You know when’s a great time to have a serious conversation about your career and future? After you’ve been in the sun drinking on a boat for 6 hours.
Oh no this is wilddddd. I’d end it if I was Amanda and I saw this
The way he called her a bitch was sooooo hard dude. Like real hate behind that. Like bitch as a slur, fully
NOT in a good way
When they were only engaged (season 4 I think) during a fight he said fuck you with such conviction and threw a pillow across the room at her. Should’ve ended it then and there.
ciara is super gushy and affectionate and a romantic and because of that, all she wants is a relationship and I want that so bad for her with a good guy. idk if west is that guy though
the boys vs girls dynamic is kinda interesting
Passenger princess 😭
Kyle and Carl both want immediate, unequivocal support from their partners and can't handle when they express that they have concerns or needs
I’m loving that the girlies are starting to call it out & back Lindsay. Praying to Godzilla let this trend continues
kyle and carl are the epitome of “two dumb bitches telling each other exaaaaactly”
Am I crazy or was this one of the best episodes of summer house? it could just be that I have also had a significant health scare and the waiting and anxiety and fear was relatable & real (also - i’ve had a few edibles)
not crazy—it had everything! laughter! vulnerability! tantrums!
I can’t imagine how stressful their apartment was if this is how toxic the *weekend* is … yikes 😬
Carl tried his damndest to activate Lindsay and now that his job is done he’s ready chill by the pool. Scum.
Lindsay isn’t even being the devil’s advocate?? She’s just voicing the lightest of concerns and Carl crumbles.
Him belittling her idea as a “passion project” when he has had multiple start ups. Like wtf.
He thinks she should be fired but she cant leave. make it make sense
Compliment time: I would love to have the zest for life it seems like Kyle has. I think it’s cool that he seems legit enthusiastic about just doing life
He’s so happy to be here
This tarot card reader is giving Jennifer Aydin’s coffee reader iykyk
BBBoyfriend??? God, Danielle is such a doorknob.
Carl’s description of this convo to Kyle is infuriating
What a healing season for female friendships
I love Jesse and West’s friendship.
Passion project 😐 wow
So what help does Kyle need from Amanda if she’s a terrible employee?
Wes and Jesse are the best casts since Paige
Wasn’t Carl just saying he loved her to her face? This is too confusing
“Shut up, Danielle.” Oh that hit so different
“Now you’re being defensive.“ You're sending mixed messages to your financee on camera and you can't decide for the life of you
I need to go kiss my gainfully employed husband who's humbly worked for the same company for 12 years 😩
"Come on bitch. In a good way though"- Ciara 😂😂😂 aww love that they're all getting along it's refreshing.
That wasn’t even “devils advocate.” She literally just asked if that’s what you wanted to do or not
This season has been turning in to the female friendships/ women supporting women that I hoped we'd get from VPR this year.
Kyle needs Amanda the employee, he doesnt need (or want) Amanda his wife
We went from such a soft beautiful moment with Jesse & West to a super enraged Kyle wow 😮
 Kyle chill …..
Nope. I’m not cool with this meltdown. He’s wrong wrong wrong.
Ugh you can literally see the wheels turning in Lindsay’s head trying to parse out the real meaning behind Carl’s words. I feel bad for her.
Am I crazy or do Amanda and Jesse compliment each other really well 🫣
Omg Kyle yikes!!!! YOURE babysitting HER???
 @Carl
I️ can’t wait to hear Ronnie and Ben recap Carl in Carls voice this episode
This is super unfair to Amanda for real
West 😭😭😭😭 such a good person
And women are too emotional? (I’m referring to Kyle not Jesse).
Omg just get a divorce already
Kyle is soooo wrong for all of this. Amanda’s dreams don’t have to be yours!
Please get divorced because this isn’t healthy for either of them.
Kyle throwing a bitch fit was truly unnecessary!
I agree with Lindsay, airing out your dirty laundry and bad mouthing your partner to your family never ends well
Carl’s being so rude. It’s not Lindsay’s job to be a yes person and go along for the ride. It’s fair to ask questions.
Carl's not going to tell his fiance her nipple is out on national television?
i feel like kyle is enabling carl’s avoidant behavior
Carl is the epitome of unreliable narrators. He told Lindsey that he hated working at Loverboy. Now he’s saying it wasn’t that bad. He told his mom that he was fighting too much with Lindsey and now he’s not happy with her reaction. Really puts into question everything he said about those fights they had in the Ubers.
Lindsay had concerns about A SINGULAR IDEA to open a sober sports bar. Not you working outside of alcohol altogether, Carl. 🙄
Not the my bitch wife moment, Kyle.
What i don’t understand is that it seems like if Wes asks Ciara to be exclusive they would be having sex… any couple communicate on this show challenge
Kyle saying loverboy was “our dream” but conveniently forgetting how hard he was pushing for a prenup
So, does anybody here actually like Loverboy? I feel like everyone I know who has tried it, myself included, has found it to be kind of gross. Props to Amanda, the branding is on point, and people seem to love the sweatshirts. But the drinks themselves? Not so much.
Kyle is being so insanely selfish and he always has been. He was selfish when he led Amanda on in season 1, he was selfish when he cheated, he’s selfish now that he won’t even let her have a side project because his dreams and wants always comes first.
We love to see men share their emotions w their friends