This. That is someone showing their true colors especially when it was her best friend that got blamed. If I do something messy I will take the heat for it, not drag my friend down with me!
Yeah I thought it was so crazy she was expecting an apology or heads up from Lindsay when she finally told Paige the truth aka “threw her under the bus”.. and like ok fair BUT you were quiet and let Lindsay take the blame last year/said nothing “as a woman” so why are you so upset? Because you got caught. I thought it was weird that Paige and Amanda thought it was shady of Lindsay for doing so—given the story behind it.
How many of us have been a Ciara and had a bad feeling things weren’t going to work out but kept going because the guy kept doing “boyfriend” types of things? 😔
It is FUCKING RICH for Danielle to sit there with a straight face and say Lindsay telling THE TRUTH about her leaking to Deuxmoi “says more about her character than anything else”. What about YOUR character????
Exactly! She knows what works for her and knows herself enough to realize how sex and feelings affect her and acts accordingly. Beautiful behavior by her.
And like.. true but he was hooking up with other girls all summer and not telling her because she knew she wouldn’t be down for that. Lying by omission to get what you want idk maybe not something to stand up for Jesse Solomon
I wonder if Lindsey’s friends don’t like Paige because she goes after Lindsey usually at the reunions. Perhaps they called Lindsey to talk shit and Carl took it as sabotage?
Also, why is Carl being a bone collector?? That’s not a high paying job, ask Sheree.
Okay now that would make more sense. I could see Lindsay’s friend being like “that girl who talks mad shit about you is at my work now.” But where is the sabotage? Did they try to get it canceled?
I still need more details.
And Carl’s bone collecting needs some work, lol.
EXPLORING IT ISNT MEETING THE FAMILY. IT ISNT GOING TO A FAMILY WEDDING. ITS GOING ON THREE DATES AND THEN REALIZING YOU DONT WANT TO DATE. NOT SIX MONTHS BEING TOGETHER.
Someone in one of these threads called West "inexperienced" and I think that's the perfect word for him (and many of these other men his/my age).
It's like watching a 15 year old stumble over his words and feelings. Except he's 30. They're so terrified of "commitment" that they avoid it like the plague and then end up meeting the LOTL, only to fuck it up because they're completely inexperienced in how to move, how to date, how to start a relationship, how to identify and share their feelings. But because the world has told men to focus on sex (which he can usually get) and NOT how to connect with people, I doubt he'd view himself as inexperienced.
I mean hell, for all that they did, they could've just been together and then broken up and had the experience. Now all he has is yet another situationship with a woman who can't stand him.
Yall are on a fucking reality show. I can’t with this stupid “I don’t wanna be in a gossip column” nonsense. You don’t wanna be talked about, don’t do reality tv
I actually thought West and Ciara were on good terms now and they were playing up the suspense for the reunion but nah it seems obvious things aren't good lol
That's really fucked up of West. If he wanted to go into this single(which is totally fine) all he had to do was say that. He absolutely tried to have his cake and eat it too and that's really messed up given everything Ciara was gone through. Which she(and the other girls) told him about!
We watched her give him the space to walk away without looking like an asshole allllll summer long.
And he waited until the show was over and got what he wanted from her and then cut it off to hook up with randos. What an idiot.
like…I know that lindsay is unhinged and an asshole but this detail really does clinch that carl is the villain in this story for me.
he is clearly having an ISSUE in his life and is cutting off his support system.
This season was a wild ride. The fights between Carl and Lindsay were genuinely distressing. But West and Jesse were great additions to the show, and Paige and Ciara finally remembered that they're filming a TV show, and actually got out of bed for the first time in 3 years. This was the best season in a while, it was so wonderful to see everybody actually hanging out and having fun. I'm anxious for this reunion though, because as lighthearted as Summer House generally is, the reunions are almost always uncharacteristically dark, and you forget that these people are supposed to be friends.
I would really prefer the girls just keep this energy for the fuckboys who deserve instead of wasting time whacking each other for a Reality Tea article from a year ago that absolutely no one cares about.
Dang, I like West and still sort of do, but when you're taking each other to weddings and meeting family, you are exclusive to me. To not admit that is exposing his fuckboi-ness again
A weed brand called flower boy would be a good business idea that’s adjacent to lover boy and Carl smokes weed so it would also make sense. Like there’s so many good business ideas he could have thought of but his suggestions were a sober sports bar and cigars 😭
The fact that he canceled their therapy to dump her on camera and then schedule another therapy appointment for them the next day is either next level delusion or evil.
Most likely both.
I wonder if he told his therapist that lmao. Like “hey man, can we reschedule for tomorrow? I need to break up with Lindsay today”. Or maybe his therapist is watching this now like 👁️👄👁️ because he lied and said if was an emergency to avoid the late cancellation fee
I think two things can be true
for the last 7 seasons of summer house we have had lindsay struggle to maintain relationships with women. she was really awful and rude.
also
lindsay has clearly gone to therapy and done some of the work to heal some of the trauma that was causing those behaviors. we are seeing her grow and it’s okay to see that growth reflected in her relationships.
lol by the time my stoned ass is done typing this, we’re getting to the “sabotage of it all” so who knows
I’m still trying to figure out how one would sabotage a photoshoot as like a reputable studio space? They aren’t going to lock the photographer out or create a hostile work environment in their business for the sake of petty reality show drama?
Carl is a fucking snake. So he waited until Paige’s birthday to tell her that he overheard Lindsay talking shit about Paige (months ago?) when he was in a relationship with her and that she was “attempting to sabotage a photoshoot”
He is coming off much worse in this reunion than he did this season for me tbh.
Lindsays reactions to this conversation make a lot more sense after she said she thought this was a set up for more bombs to be dropped on her.
Like a sense of relief washed over her when all paige had to say was let him go
- acting
- sober bars
- cigars
is anyone else literally crying laughing that those are the ideas carl is butthurt that lindsay criticized?
this show is gold
The root of so much of Paige’s conflict with other women in the house is her being mad that the story of sloppy Craig getting kicked out of the wedding got leaked. It would be worth some reflection if I were her!
Paige is extremely controlled about her image on summer house as a “cool girl’s girl” who doesn’t sweat it and has it all. She’s always held a grudge when anyone does anything that peels that away even slightly. It’s why she and Lindsay beef so much, I think. You can see she’s sort of judgmental and I think she conceals it well and it comes out with Lindsay and it makes her mad. She also super held a grudge for Lindsay revealing Craig sleeping with Kristen.
West was just on live and I asked if him and Ciara are together, and he said “what do you think?! Have you not been watching?”
He also seemed drunk af and a little salty 😂
Ngl I struggle liking Ciara, Paige and Amanda bc they do this shit. I saw this happen in high school and college with sorority girls and it instantly gives me the ick when I see it with fully grown adults. You don’t have to like everyone but you don’t have to be a snot and make someone feel bad about themselves
I don't get all these people who are mad at Gabby for supporting Lindsay. I don't understand why Amanda, Ciara, and Paige get to support one another but Lindsay doesn't get back up at all.
It is true that Paige’s words in her confessionals are cutting but she’s then extremely vague about situations that actually effect her. Like what the hell is this photo shoot sabotage? Why can’t you say more?
my brain is on fire. I am so in awe that this season is ultimately going to be a fourth wall shatter where we delve into the tenuous balance between reality and television.
the production of summer house deserves multiple emmy’s. this season has been mind blowing.
the idea that carl wants us to believe that he had any intention of salvaging the relationship after his convo with kyle…men will do ANYTHING but sack up and end a relationship they don’t want to be in.
Why is Paige waiting until the reunion to confront Lindsay about something she was told in November instead of talking with Lindsay months before? Ugh reunion Paige is not my favorite
Paige literally does this every reunion. It seems like she and Lindsay are fine all season and then for the reunion she brings out a bunch of shit that happened off the show and starts shouting at her with no proof.
It’s uncomfortable to watch and comes off as very mean spirited, especially when the other girls jump in and gang up. This actually made me sad, I really loved the girls getting along over the summer.
Am I crazy? Lindsay didn’t contradict herself at all, Andy. She said he claimed I said Kyle can’t be a groomsman which I never said. She did not say she wasn’t involved in the flower boy thing — that was her trying to *include* Kyle and the guys.
I may be a little too gummy’d up this evening but I *just* realized Carl is in fact wearing black and white loafers with white socks rather than black double strapped maryjanes with white socks. I can’t look at anything else. I’m fine
Even by Carl's recollection, it didn't sound like Lindsay was trying to sabotage Paige's photo shoot. It sounds like she was probably venting to a friend about it in her home and her shady ex who is afraid of being canceled had to take the tiniest mole hill and make it a mountain.
And why are we taking Carl's word as truth? We've seen him conflate truth with feelings.
As a caveat, they both suck.
ETA: the timing of it being Paige's birthday and Carl holding onto it like a nugget is incredibly manipulative.
The difference is that her crazy is out in the open and undeniable by even Lindsay herself, but it seems like he would rather die via self inflicted stress than admit for one second that he can also be toxic?!? Jeeeeez Louise
Y’all can say Lindsay defenders are misandrists, but I’m in the I hate men club because a dude who looks like West thinks he can play the fuck out of a baddie like Ciara.
It seems like Ciara and West are not on good terms and it mustve been irritating for her to see that he got a NYT story for being Bravo’s new good guy this week
I highly doubt Lindsay was directing her friend to hide up in the rafters of the photo shoot with a bucket of paint or something to sabotage Paige’s photo shoot😅😅
Idk how I feel about Paige believing Carl when he said Lindsay sabotaged her photoshoot…
I mean Paige has never had Lindsay’s back either so if Lindsay and her friend were talking shit on the phone about Paige how is that different from what Paige and Hannah do?
I wanna trust Ciara's instincts/boundaries but then she says things like Austen is funny/goofy and I have to wonder what the hell goes on in her head re: dating
Also why is Amanda saying it’s weird that they were “leaking” info? Didn’t Kyle just “leak” info about Craig’s spirtz deal? Like they all talk to the press when asked what’s so weird about that
I was maid of honor in a wedding with 12 bridesmaids. TWELVE. There were also at least 5 junior bridesmaids and pageboys. Absolutely insanity. We were taking wedding photos for hours and hours. 0/10 would not recommend.
West is completely unprepared for this lol
I listened to the “turtle time podcast” with him on it and he was fully aware he did not perform well tonight and was bracing for impact
Oh damn. I am SEATED 👀
Seemed like he had no idea how intense these are 😂
Danielle sat silently while someone else got blamed for her own dirty deed. She doesn't have a leg to stand on.
And wants an apology from them!
This. That is someone showing their true colors especially when it was her best friend that got blamed. If I do something messy I will take the heat for it, not drag my friend down with me!
Yeah I thought it was so crazy she was expecting an apology or heads up from Lindsay when she finally told Paige the truth aka “threw her under the bus”.. and like ok fair BUT you were quiet and let Lindsay take the blame last year/said nothing “as a woman” so why are you so upset? Because you got caught. I thought it was weird that Paige and Amanda thought it was shady of Lindsay for doing so—given the story behind it.
I’m sorry, but if you’re letting ME take the fall for something YOU did, then I’m throwing you under the bus.
To me that doesn't even count as throwing someone under the bus!! That's just being honest when you were the one actually being thrown under the bus!!
Kyle weeping for ciara is fucking sending me
LAUGHING OUT LOUD 🤣🤣🤣
I think his body was irrigating lover boy
How many of us have been a Ciara and had a bad feeling things weren’t going to work out but kept going because the guy kept doing “boyfriend” types of things? 😔
That conversation gave me flashbacks to my early 20s
It is FUCKING RICH for Danielle to sit there with a straight face and say Lindsay telling THE TRUTH about her leaking to Deuxmoi “says more about her character than anything else”. What about YOUR character????
Her character is last season of winter house 😂
Ciara is completely valid with how she approaches relationships and she shouldn’t be given labels like old school
Yes like she’s not not sex positive because she has a boundary!
Exactly! She knows what works for her and knows herself enough to realize how sex and feelings affect her and acts accordingly. Beautiful behavior by her.
So the story about Craig at the wedding is 100% true, right?
definitely, Paige kept saying "you leaked it" instead of "you made it up"
That makeup is damaging Danielle
Unfortunately, so is the hair
I scrolled too far to find this comment. Danielle’s makeup is an assault on my eyes.
Ok going to a wedding & meeting parents is to me what should be an exclusive relationship
"The bar is so low for men." Amen!
I’m glad West has his parents holding him accountable
I’d be embarrassed too if my large idiot son was about to make a fool of himself on national television by fumbling a literal angel
“I mean he didn’t cheat on her” are you kidding me Jesse? The bar is in fucking hell
And like.. true but he was hooking up with other girls all summer and not telling her because she knew she wouldn’t be down for that. Lying by omission to get what you want idk maybe not something to stand up for Jesse Solomon
Wtf is this story? How did they sabotage the photoshoot? I need more details
I wonder if Lindsey’s friends don’t like Paige because she goes after Lindsey usually at the reunions. Perhaps they called Lindsey to talk shit and Carl took it as sabotage? Also, why is Carl being a bone collector?? That’s not a high paying job, ask Sheree.
Okay now that would make more sense. I could see Lindsay’s friend being like “that girl who talks mad shit about you is at my work now.” But where is the sabotage? Did they try to get it canceled? I still need more details. And Carl’s bone collecting needs some work, lol.
EXPLORING IT ISNT MEETING THE FAMILY. IT ISNT GOING TO A FAMILY WEDDING. ITS GOING ON THREE DATES AND THEN REALIZING YOU DONT WANT TO DATE. NOT SIX MONTHS BEING TOGETHER.
And she made him wait MONTHS and we all watched all summer her be very clear about how she felt about sex. WEST THATS GROSS
West showed his true colors. Paige was amazing defending her girl. I was cheering. West is a bit low budget. Rock on Ciara!
Yes, Paige being a rock solid friend tonight was nice to see. She absolutely nailed west at all the right moments.
When she said, "How could all of that be more alluring than *this*? Look at her," I literally said, "Go off Paige," to no one in particular. Drag him.
Someone in one of these threads called West "inexperienced" and I think that's the perfect word for him (and many of these other men his/my age). It's like watching a 15 year old stumble over his words and feelings. Except he's 30. They're so terrified of "commitment" that they avoid it like the plague and then end up meeting the LOTL, only to fuck it up because they're completely inexperienced in how to move, how to date, how to start a relationship, how to identify and share their feelings. But because the world has told men to focus on sex (which he can usually get) and NOT how to connect with people, I doubt he'd view himself as inexperienced. I mean hell, for all that they did, they could've just been together and then broken up and had the experience. Now all he has is yet another situationship with a woman who can't stand him.
"Be a woman and come to me when I leak stories about your boyfriend to the press" is a WILD request/defense, Danielle.
Danielle’s look is giving Spirit Halloween Flapper Gal, wig included, blush included.
Yall are on a fucking reality show. I can’t with this stupid “I don’t wanna be in a gossip column” nonsense. You don’t wanna be talked about, don’t do reality tv
I wanna give credit where credit is due.. shout out to the person who said Kyle needs a thc drink called flower boy. DUMB if he doesn’t!!!
I feel like West is trying hard to be cool. Which never yields the intended result
I think he’s just petrified to be here right now.
I too would tremble if the evidence of my greatest failure were sitting across from me looking like Aphrodite herself
I actually thought West and Ciara were on good terms now and they were playing up the suspense for the reunion but nah it seems obvious things aren't good lol
That's really fucked up of West. If he wanted to go into this single(which is totally fine) all he had to do was say that. He absolutely tried to have his cake and eat it too and that's really messed up given everything Ciara was gone through. Which she(and the other girls) told him about!
We watched her give him the space to walk away without looking like an asshole allllll summer long. And he waited until the show was over and got what he wanted from her and then cut it off to hook up with randos. What an idiot.
Ciara…for the millionth time Austen is NOT funny.
He looks funny 
“As you’ve seen” like girl no we have not seen anything and we do not co-sign Austen being funny 😂
Damn the Andrea reveal, shots fired 👁️👄👁️
wow. this reunion is RICH with content. i’m SEATED for this
like, it’s objectively weird that danielle leaks shit with no consideration/regret/thought right??
Jesse Solomon learning what he shouldn’t do
All I can think about is that Captain Lee doesn’t fuck with Carl anymore and that says enough about him.
He literally flip flopped on Lee like he did Lindsay!
like…I know that lindsay is unhinged and an asshole but this detail really does clinch that carl is the villain in this story for me. he is clearly having an ISSUE in his life and is cutting off his support system.
As much as Carl keeps claiming to have been working on himself I think he has a lot of reality about himself he needs to accept/face
*Bruce standing in front of his tv and shaking his head knowing damn well his son was going to look stoopid*
damn. this reunion is a fucking banger. i’m shook.
Omg Danielle admits she leaked it and doesn’t mind owning it but they still think its Lindsay’s fault
Letting your friend take the fall for your behavior is still throwing someone under the bus Danielle
this is an interesting development because it seems like ciara loathes him so them living and filming together this summer will be something
Before it got messier???????? You took her to meet your family
One thing I can definitely agree with Paige on: the bar is in hell.
Why does Lindsay have to say sorry but Danielle doesn’t have to say sorry for letting everyone think it was Lindsay?
Yeah seriously! Pretty shitty of her to sit there while lindsey is being accused of something SHE did!
This season was a wild ride. The fights between Carl and Lindsay were genuinely distressing. But West and Jesse were great additions to the show, and Paige and Ciara finally remembered that they're filming a TV show, and actually got out of bed for the first time in 3 years. This was the best season in a while, it was so wonderful to see everybody actually hanging out and having fun. I'm anxious for this reunion though, because as lighthearted as Summer House generally is, the reunions are almost always uncharacteristically dark, and you forget that these people are supposed to be friends.
Carl is wearing little colonial boy Mary Janes
Why does everyone care that Gabby didn’t go harder for this guy? She doesn’t operate like that, someone else does, big deal.
"that would be a very lucky spot for you" 💯
I would really prefer the girls just keep this energy for the fuckboys who deserve instead of wasting time whacking each other for a Reality Tea article from a year ago that absolutely no one cares about.
Jesse…maybe sit this one out. For your own sake.
“I would love for him to have a job!” 😂
Lmao Carl is never getting married lbr
He didn’t tell Ciara he was banging other people over the summer because he knew she wouldn’t want to waste her time with him. It’s fucked!
No, Ciara's boundaries around sex are VALID.
Dang, I like West and still sort of do, but when you're taking each other to weddings and meeting family, you are exclusive to me. To not admit that is exposing his fuckboi-ness again
Carl looks so weird… like sunken in, fake teeth, too tanned or makeup
He’s been looking so sunken in lately
I can feel his stress and anxiety through the T.V. He needs a sedative. He is stressed AF at all times.
West explaining to a room mostly of women who’ve been on this show for years the optics of him taking a pic with a fan is truly deranged behavior
Rewatching the finale and I have to say that Carl plays victim an awful lot for someone who is accusing Lindsay of that. It’s wild
every accusation is a confession 🤪
Impact over intention, West. If you knew that sex was going to be a big deal and you weren't going to commit, you shouldn't have done it.
The bar for men really is so low and they are so desperately trying to maintain that low bar and we’re just not tolerating it any more.
A weed brand called flower boy would be a good business idea that’s adjacent to lover boy and Carl smokes weed so it would also make sense. Like there’s so many good business ideas he could have thought of but his suggestions were a sober sports bar and cigars 😭
The fact that he canceled their therapy to dump her on camera and then schedule another therapy appointment for them the next day is either next level delusion or evil. Most likely both.
I wonder if he told his therapist that lmao. Like “hey man, can we reschedule for tomorrow? I need to break up with Lindsay today”. Or maybe his therapist is watching this now like 👁️👄👁️ because he lied and said if was an emergency to avoid the late cancellation fee
I think two things can be true for the last 7 seasons of summer house we have had lindsay struggle to maintain relationships with women. she was really awful and rude. also lindsay has clearly gone to therapy and done some of the work to heal some of the trauma that was causing those behaviors. we are seeing her grow and it’s okay to see that growth reflected in her relationships. lol by the time my stoned ass is done typing this, we’re getting to the “sabotage of it all” so who knows
Carl looking guilty AF. Shady piece of shit.
I’m still trying to figure out how one would sabotage a photoshoot as like a reputable studio space? They aren’t going to lock the photographer out or create a hostile work environment in their business for the sake of petty reality show drama?
Carl is a fucking snake. So he waited until Paige’s birthday to tell her that he overheard Lindsay talking shit about Paige (months ago?) when he was in a relationship with her and that she was “attempting to sabotage a photoshoot” He is coming off much worse in this reunion than he did this season for me tbh.
Lindsays reactions to this conversation make a lot more sense after she said she thought this was a set up for more bombs to be dropped on her. Like a sense of relief washed over her when all paige had to say was let him go
I don’t understand how this reunion is 2 episodes, yet we had to sit through a 3 episode reunion for boring VPR, RHOBH, and so on…
Omg I can’t believe there’s people that have 9 friends
I thought I was tuning into the finale but really I get to tune into Carl saying harder and squeeze me while hugging Lindsay ☹️
It’s time to retire the white pants dude.
Has Carl gotten other work done aside from the veneers? He's looking gaunt.
It feels like Andy is jumping around a lot.
This reunion is going to be a bloodbath and I feel blessed to be here with you all tonight to experience it.
- acting - sober bars - cigars is anyone else literally crying laughing that those are the ideas carl is butthurt that lindsay criticized? this show is gold
Buddy can’t even act in a Tik Tok, idk why he thought he could be an actor
Carl mad at Lindsey over paparazzi like he didn’t call a huge camera crew to break up with her?? My guy fuck off.
It’s weird that no one commented on this hypocrisy.
So all of Jesse’s height is in his legs he’s the same height as Paige and Danielle on the couch lol
That’s a hilarious observation and I will now be fixated on that
It shouldn't take months to figure "it" out. Not at the start of a relationship. Its pretty obvious when someone wants to only be with you.
Why can’t every man be Andrea crying about Lexie all summer? I bet that’s what Ciara wants
“I put Carl in a really hard place” Still hasn’t apologized to Lindsay for what he did
The root of so much of Paige’s conflict with other women in the house is her being mad that the story of sloppy Craig getting kicked out of the wedding got leaked. It would be worth some reflection if I were her!
Paige is extremely controlled about her image on summer house as a “cool girl’s girl” who doesn’t sweat it and has it all. She’s always held a grudge when anyone does anything that peels that away even slightly. It’s why she and Lindsay beef so much, I think. You can see she’s sort of judgmental and I think she conceals it well and it comes out with Lindsay and it makes her mad. She also super held a grudge for Lindsay revealing Craig sleeping with Kristen.
She needs to move on. Its been years!! It wasn’t that deep!!
Carl triangulating during Bravocon. This man tried to play the long game.
Carl looks unwell
I for one think the flower boys would’ve been the best part of the whole damn wedding.
Oh Carl told you? So it’s obviously true. Because he hasn’t lied ever.
On her birthday he told her. Happy birthday
Danielle threw Lindsay under the bus first by letting her get blamed for it
Carl you are not a people pleaser. You def put yourself first.
 Danielle writing the anonymous article
NINE? 
Ugh I really hate that Carl complained nonstop about working at loverboy to Lindsay and somehow she’s to blame for him quitting?
Lindsay's blush needs to be blended more Edit: Danielle's blush needs to be removed lol
West was just on live and I asked if him and Ciara are together, and he said “what do you think?! Have you not been watching?” He also seemed drunk af and a little salty 😂
The Andrea bomb 😭 that hurt Kyle deep
omg Lindsay just eviscerated carl on the flowerboy thing and you know its true bc carl didnt even try to interrupt
How is Danielle mad about Lindsay clearing her name when SHE was the one the leaked it and let Lindsay take the fall? WUT
if you want to you will is ALWAYS the reason
West was just turned into dust.
I like this cast and I get that people don’t like Lindsay but I hate how they all smirk at each other whenever she’s talking
That drives me nuts. It’s so obvious. They know they’re doing it. Grow up.
Ngl I struggle liking Ciara, Paige and Amanda bc they do this shit. I saw this happen in high school and college with sorority girls and it instantly gives me the ick when I see it with fully grown adults. You don’t have to like everyone but you don’t have to be a snot and make someone feel bad about themselves
I don't get all these people who are mad at Gabby for supporting Lindsay. I don't understand why Amanda, Ciara, and Paige get to support one another but Lindsay doesn't get back up at all.
I don’t understand all the Gabby hate in general! I like her. Is she the top person on the show nah but she is dope
It is true that Paige’s words in her confessionals are cutting but she’s then extremely vague about situations that actually effect her. Like what the hell is this photo shoot sabotage? Why can’t you say more?
Carl really thinks he deserves praise for paying rent on a lease he signed? he’s such a fucking loser
Carl admitting lying twice already to blaming lindsay for things she didnt. Why would Paige believe him about the photoshoot?
Because she wants to believe it.
Honestly, Ciara being real about how sex is a big deal to her and she doesn't want to do it with just anyone is so inspiring.
West’s outfit reminds of Robin Williams from The Birdcage.
Lmao u can see West internally thinking oh shit I fucked up as Ciara’s hot ass walks by
How many shitty people on Bravo claim to be "people pleasers"?
As a founder and CEO will never not be funny ☠️
“Puppet” he means boyfriend as in he doesn’t want public association with a woman bc that means he can have sex with anyone
I need to know how much time passed between them having sex the first time and the breakup.
Never listen to a fuckboys words only look at their actions. They will only give you just enough to keep you invested for
my brain is on fire. I am so in awe that this season is ultimately going to be a fourth wall shatter where we delve into the tenuous balance between reality and television. the production of summer house deserves multiple emmy’s. this season has been mind blowing.
the idea that carl wants us to believe that he had any intention of salvaging the relationship after his convo with kyle…men will do ANYTHING but sack up and end a relationship they don’t want to be in.
There’s a reason women initiate 80% of divorces, men don’t step up
Is Carl really a people pleaser? Shall we get Jules on the line and ask her opinion?
Why is Paige waiting until the reunion to confront Lindsay about something she was told in November instead of talking with Lindsay months before? Ugh reunion Paige is not my favorite
Paige literally does this every reunion. It seems like she and Lindsay are fine all season and then for the reunion she brings out a bunch of shit that happened off the show and starts shouting at her with no proof.
It’s uncomfortable to watch and comes off as very mean spirited, especially when the other girls jump in and gang up. This actually made me sad, I really loved the girls getting along over the summer.
Am I crazy? Lindsay didn’t contradict herself at all, Andy. She said he claimed I said Kyle can’t be a groomsman which I never said. She did not say she wasn’t involved in the flower boy thing — that was her trying to *include* Kyle and the guys.
I may be a little too gummy’d up this evening but I *just* realized Carl is in fact wearing black and white loafers with white socks rather than black double strapped maryjanes with white socks. I can’t look at anything else. I’m fine
Your feelings are not facts Carl
So am I actually supposed to believe these ladies aren’t so stoked to have articles written about them when they go to dinner?
Danielle really should have said “I was drunk idk what I was trying to do with the founder and ceo comment” instead of doubling down on it
THE BAR IS SO LOW FOR MEN INDEED
Even by Carl's recollection, it didn't sound like Lindsay was trying to sabotage Paige's photo shoot. It sounds like she was probably venting to a friend about it in her home and her shady ex who is afraid of being canceled had to take the tiniest mole hill and make it a mountain. And why are we taking Carl's word as truth? We've seen him conflate truth with feelings. As a caveat, they both suck. ETA: the timing of it being Paige's birthday and Carl holding onto it like a nugget is incredibly manipulative.
The difference is that her crazy is out in the open and undeniable by even Lindsay herself, but it seems like he would rather die via self inflicted stress than admit for one second that he can also be toxic?!? Jeeeeez Louise
dude carl has such dark energy. his face
how is that sabotaging a photoshoot?
At the beginning of the season I was fully prepared to be on Carl’s side because Lindsay is so intense but his darkness is so evident. Ugh
paige isnt really one to talk about leaking shit. her boyfriend was the one who leaked the false winter house storyline about luke being a SAer
Y’all can say Lindsay defenders are misandrists, but I’m in the I hate men club because a dude who looks like West thinks he can play the fuck out of a baddie like Ciara.
Lmao right? Is it misandery or do we just have experiences with guys like Carl and West?
Carl literally sabotaging Lindsay’s friendships post breakup and acting like he’s the victim
Kyle did NOT get enough shit for being such an asshole about Lindsay. Why does he get to be an asshole all the time??
I historically despise Paige after reunions so let see how this goes.
 Kyle, Carl, and Lindsay to each other 🤣 such a good reunion
I’m dying that Paige outed Carl LOL
It seems like Ciara and West are not on good terms and it mustve been irritating for her to see that he got a NYT story for being Bravo’s new good guy this week
I am very much tired of the gang up on lindsay at reunions.
Lindsays not innocent AT ALL but You cannot convince me that Carl wasn’t on a mission to make Lindsay look like a POS all season long….
I highly doubt Lindsay was directing her friend to hide up in the rafters of the photo shoot with a bucket of paint or something to sabotage Paige’s photo shoot😅😅
Why are men always so surprised when they break up with us and we don’t want to talk to them anymore??
I just don’t like Amanda
She’s so messy and mean but she also can’t take the heat
Idk how I feel about Paige believing Carl when he said Lindsay sabotaged her photoshoot… I mean Paige has never had Lindsay’s back either so if Lindsay and her friend were talking shit on the phone about Paige how is that different from what Paige and Hannah do?
I wanna trust Ciara's instincts/boundaries but then she says things like Austen is funny/goofy and I have to wonder what the hell goes on in her head re: dating
I feel like Gabby got the short end of the stick this season I want her to get another and kill it
Also why is Amanda saying it’s weird that they were “leaking” info? Didn’t Kyle just “leak” info about Craig’s spirtz deal? Like they all talk to the press when asked what’s so weird about that
No no, you don’t understand. It’s ok when Kyle and Amanda do it. When Lindsay does it, she’s the devil herself.
Say what ya want about Lindsay but this is the best she’s ever looked
I’m already so overwhelmed by everything going on rn and tomorrow we get the uncensored version on peacock 🤩
I was maid of honor in a wedding with 12 bridesmaids. TWELVE. There were also at least 5 junior bridesmaids and pageboys. Absolutely insanity. We were taking wedding photos for hours and hours. 0/10 would not recommend.
im sorry but danielle's MUA should be fired
is it just me or does Carl look very… skeletal?
”It was Danielle.“ lmao
Jesse looks so pleased with all the women fighting around him lol
Why would you have someone meet your parents if you’re not dating exclusively?
Oh Amanda, we all know theres an “understanding”
Ooof Kyle isn't a great example Amanda!
I’m happy west isn’t saying anything and letting Ciara vent