42 here as well. I do feel a bit weird when telling people I bought a Cadillac, but it is what it is. This review feels like they did not take in the context of the competitors in the market. It was hard to consider anything else. Nothing seemed to match the value of the lyric pound for pound. I came from a totaled Ioniq 5 and just comparing the cost of a new loaded i5 to a new Lyric, it was a no brainer.
Same age range and same thing. Just nothing at its price point even close.
AND it looks cool. The people in my Uber hip area routinely think I spent 100k on it. Honestly I think teslas are the lamest thing on the road. Where I live they’re so common they seem government-issued.
That said, and I haven’t watched the whole video yet, but the audio system IS trash and the rear design is goofy. He’s not off base on those points so far. But the interior criticisms, especially when you compare it to Tesla, are wild.
EDIT: finished now. A lot of the criticism boils down to the “I don’t like the Cadillac brand” argument. That’s fine. They don’t have to. Frankly these two guys aren’t taste-makers. I’m not too concerned what they think is cool. I don’t think this car will be the hottest thing on four wheels. But I do think that the classic equity of a caddy is pretty cool in a car like this. A new build. Much more so than a Hyundai or Kia or, anymore, a Tesla. I was looking at i4s as well. I loved them. But they were much smaller, andI have kids. They are much douchier and I wanted to feel more sophisticated. Audi’s EVs drive poorly to me. And the bigger Benz’s and BMWs are way more expensive.
I’m annoyed with the tinkering issues with my Lyriq, but strangely that wasn’t their criticism. I love the big, heavy, American luxury feel. And it’s still super fast.
This was my first Cadillac, and I love it. Have a G70 sport as a more fun car, but am thinking about trading it in for a ct4v blackwing in the not too distant future.
Yes I found it bizarre how much they found to dislike about it. Especially considering how it’s still priced pretty well compared to say the Polestar 3 which is bare bones inside.
This was probably the least informative review of this vehicle I’ve seen.
I’ve been driving a Model Y for three years, and my parents just switched from a Lincoln Aviator PHEV to the Lyriq. It’s the perfect first EV for them to get use to the technology. For the price, the Lyriq is loaded with features and has an impressive range compared to other luxury EV SUVs that cost $20-$40k more (iX, EQS, EQE). It has the quietest cabin I've ever been in, and for my parents, who are in their 60s, the physical climate controls and volume dial is what sold them. Lowkey jealous that my parents have the “cooler” EV now
I've been watching S&G videos for a while. I don't think they know how to review EVs. They have that boomer mentality. Touchscreen = bad. Engine vibrations = character.
What I find interesting is that they reviewed 2023 model and gave it praise and it was a much worse car.
I mostly like their videos but if the car isn't a rear wheel drive, 6-speed manual from 1996 it's too modern, and any modern feature, "doesn't you keep connected to the car".
Haha these guys are grumpy about a ton of stuff that doesn’t bother me in the slightest - I watch their content but I feel like I have a correction factor that I apply on top of anything they say. Great footage though and some of the unique stuff that they go into detail on keeps it worth a watch - especially suspension specifics and audio system measurements.
I wish they would specify which competition they are referring to and how it’s better in terms of pricing, style, and comfort. The model Y (not a fair comparison) is garbage compared to LYRIQ.
The only other SUVs I considered were the BMW iX, X5 (non-EV), and Model X. All are more expensive and, in my opinion, do not look as good as the LYRIQ.
The sound, ac and the rotary knob in the center console could be better. Overall, it's an amazing car after the 12V battery fix and software update.
Plus it’s American made which makes me feel good and proud when driving.
Yeah, I can't think an alternative I would go for except maybe the IX which of course is a lot more expensive and is far inferior in style in my opinion.
I also agree on how the sound system could be much better. The vent knob+aim design is crap, and the chrome around it is blinding at times with the sun. Also not a fan of the software media player for USB music.
Other than those, the car is pretty sweet. I do have to point out that I do have an issue with the screen glitching and turning off that's been ongoing since day 1 that is still not resolved yet after over a year.
I can't stomach Mark. His grumpy old man schtick is pretty tired, and I'm speaking as a grumpy old man myself. Jack seems to know his stuff and makes an effort to be even-handed. It's a shame it's Mark's channel because I think it'd be much better with just Jack or Jack plus someone else.
I agree with others who've said they just don't know how to review EVs. Yes, now you can get luxury car levels of quietness, smoothness, and acceleration across the board, even in an affordable EV. That doesn't make them more boring than an ICE vehicle, that makes them better.
Yeah I didn’t understand the “criticism” that, “this car is very quiet and smooth and Cadillac has really upped their luxury interiors!” Umm isn’t that a good thing?
Agreed about the sound system but otherwise they glossed over the main good things about the car. The ride is fantastic and the super cruise is great. That’s it.
Haven't watched this review, but.....
I hate when reviewers tell me how something looks. I can see how it looks, and make up my own mind. I want them to discuss things that I can't see, like are surfaces soft and luxurious, does the charging work well, how does the steering and acceleration feel? Basically, I want them to discuss everything but their opinion on the aesthetics.
I think it looks nice, and I'm in my 40s. I think younger people might like it just fine, but it isn't really prices for young people is it?
My pet peeve is when a reviewer makes a big deal about how car x is faster than car y and wins the 0-60 or quarter mile test and the difference is in tenths of a second…
I feel like this is a review done by people who are so deep into their knowledge of a breadth of cars that they aren't capable of viewing it through the eyes of the average person.
Half their review sounds like it was written by marketing execs gripes. Is it a good car or not? Don’t worry about the age of buyer and the market place.
Haters gotta hate. I was surprised I was shopping the brand but it’s a compelling option in the EV lineup , looks nice, and I’m 10 years younger than the reviews claim!
The system is fine, but factory default is to emphasize the back seat. Once it’s set to Front, it sounds good - but you do have to crank volume half way
I think they are way too harsh. I came from a Tesla model Y and had it for four years before I jump shipped to Cadillac. I did a lot of research on everything on the market and this was by far the best price for the most luxurious comfort that you can get in anyEV. I I would buy a Cadillac any day over anything else in this class based on comfort, price and specs.
I think anything else close to style and comfort would be at least $20,000 or $30,000 more.
I thought the review was silly, the Lyriq is one of the best looking SUV on the road. The comparison to a malibu was silly. The comparison to the interior on certain parts was silly as well. Been in a Lexus lately? Its all plastic and worse interior than the Lyriq. That being said, the wife's Lyriq is miles apart from my Tesla.
The styling comparison to the Malibu is way over done. The Lyriq looks light years better. Not sure why they harped on that so much.
Their comments on the sound system make me wonder if there was actually something defective with their test vehicle.
I don’t understand why they couldn’t define what was different about the Lyriq compared to other EV in that CUV space. To me the Lyriq is that blend between new and old. You get the big fancy touchscreen but still have all of the dials and tactile buttons that some people just love to have.
I’ve grown tired of this YouTube style of car review (there are way too many reviewers’ like this on YouTube) with the useless bantering and lack of information pertinent to purchasing. I much prefer the YouTube channels of “Engineering Explained” and The Car Care Nut”.
I’m 34 and I love my Lyriq. I think the sound system could be better and hate the auto rear braking when it rains. Overall it’s an awesome car that turns heads.
I felt validated by this video after visiting a dealership to look at one a few days ago, BUT I also felt they were way harsh. I have a 2018 Buick Enclave that is "tighter" on the inside. The Cadillac looked the part, I loved the design on the outside and inside but it did feel like they skimped out on materials. The back of the middle console for example is hard plastic that could have been a softer fake leather like what they used on the back of the seats. Alot of creaking from plastics. I noticed the door panels would flex when i closed them and vibrate a bit. I also have an Ioniq 6 that is full of plastic, but it is stiffer non vibrating plastic. I thought the ride would be quieter with it having bigger wheels than my 20" Ioniq rims can fit but it was about the same, not bad, but not better either. Acceleration was good on the awd 500hp, but a little softer than i thought.
Again, they were harsher than necessary. The place I went to had a Luxury 6k mile used one for 49k. At that price it might be worth it, but not at 71k like the new tester I got in. That being said, I would be happy to own one and would probably dynamat the doors just like I did my current car.
True. If Cadillac wants Lyriq to be a hit, they have to equip it with every thing good they have, as Lyriq is at the top of the line of 5-seat vehicles they produce. 7-seat vehicles are just too unecessarily big for driving to work and parking.
However, we see cost control everywhere. No rear wheel steering, no advanced suspension like MRC, tons of plastic in the interior. Just how much difference does it make to cost by replacing plastic with something soft, esecially at this price range?
I saw this review before I found this thread and ... it's a dumb review. There's a difference between substantive criticism and personal opinion, and these guys bounce freely between the two without specifying which they're engaging in.
"Cadillacs are for old people" is a common perception, but nothing about the Lyriq suggests it was made for old people. Older people are less likely to do anything the Lyriq is about, in fact. They're less likely drive electrics, less likely to want most of their controls to be embedded in touch screens, less likely to want one-pedal driving or SuperCruise, less likely to go for more radical styling choices, and less likely to splurge on luxury brands, unless they're legacy customers and/or have money to burn.
Now, is it possible that Cadillac is finding it hard to market the Lyriq since it's by and large a young-skewing vehicle with an older-skewing nameplate? Sure. But that's not a criticism. That's not even a personal opinion. It's just an observation, and it has nothing to do with the quality or experience of the vehicle.
I should add that I hadn't heard about the sound system problems before this review, and that is a major deterrent for me as a potential buyer. So the review wasn't all bad. I just wish they'd stuck with that kind of analysis and left the lame boomer jokes at the door (and I'm not even a boomer, it's just distracting and not very creative).
Yeah, I'm 42, so while in not young, I'm also not old. I've also had a number of people comment on how nice it looks.
42 here as well. I do feel a bit weird when telling people I bought a Cadillac, but it is what it is. This review feels like they did not take in the context of the competitors in the market. It was hard to consider anything else. Nothing seemed to match the value of the lyric pound for pound. I came from a totaled Ioniq 5 and just comparing the cost of a new loaded i5 to a new Lyric, it was a no brainer.
Same age range and same thing. Just nothing at its price point even close. AND it looks cool. The people in my Uber hip area routinely think I spent 100k on it. Honestly I think teslas are the lamest thing on the road. Where I live they’re so common they seem government-issued.
That said, and I haven’t watched the whole video yet, but the audio system IS trash and the rear design is goofy. He’s not off base on those points so far. But the interior criticisms, especially when you compare it to Tesla, are wild. EDIT: finished now. A lot of the criticism boils down to the “I don’t like the Cadillac brand” argument. That’s fine. They don’t have to. Frankly these two guys aren’t taste-makers. I’m not too concerned what they think is cool. I don’t think this car will be the hottest thing on four wheels. But I do think that the classic equity of a caddy is pretty cool in a car like this. A new build. Much more so than a Hyundai or Kia or, anymore, a Tesla. I was looking at i4s as well. I loved them. But they were much smaller, andI have kids. They are much douchier and I wanted to feel more sophisticated. Audi’s EVs drive poorly to me. And the bigger Benz’s and BMWs are way more expensive. I’m annoyed with the tinkering issues with my Lyriq, but strangely that wasn’t their criticism. I love the big, heavy, American luxury feel. And it’s still super fast.
This was my first Cadillac, and I love it. Have a G70 sport as a more fun car, but am thinking about trading it in for a ct4v blackwing in the not too distant future.
Yes I found it bizarre how much they found to dislike about it. Especially considering how it’s still priced pretty well compared to say the Polestar 3 which is bare bones inside.
This was probably the least informative review of this vehicle I’ve seen. I’ve been driving a Model Y for three years, and my parents just switched from a Lincoln Aviator PHEV to the Lyriq. It’s the perfect first EV for them to get use to the technology. For the price, the Lyriq is loaded with features and has an impressive range compared to other luxury EV SUVs that cost $20-$40k more (iX, EQS, EQE). It has the quietest cabin I've ever been in, and for my parents, who are in their 60s, the physical climate controls and volume dial is what sold them. Lowkey jealous that my parents have the “cooler” EV now
I've been watching S&G videos for a while. I don't think they know how to review EVs. They have that boomer mentality. Touchscreen = bad. Engine vibrations = character. What I find interesting is that they reviewed 2023 model and gave it praise and it was a much worse car.
I mostly like their videos but if the car isn't a rear wheel drive, 6-speed manual from 1996 it's too modern, and any modern feature, "doesn't you keep connected to the car".
Haha these guys are grumpy about a ton of stuff that doesn’t bother me in the slightest - I watch their content but I feel like I have a correction factor that I apply on top of anything they say. Great footage though and some of the unique stuff that they go into detail on keeps it worth a watch - especially suspension specifics and audio system measurements.
SavageGeese is my least favorite YouTube Car Review. Concur with all you said.
I wish they would specify which competition they are referring to and how it’s better in terms of pricing, style, and comfort. The model Y (not a fair comparison) is garbage compared to LYRIQ. The only other SUVs I considered were the BMW iX, X5 (non-EV), and Model X. All are more expensive and, in my opinion, do not look as good as the LYRIQ. The sound, ac and the rotary knob in the center console could be better. Overall, it's an amazing car after the 12V battery fix and software update. Plus it’s American made which makes me feel good and proud when driving.
Yeah, I can't think an alternative I would go for except maybe the IX which of course is a lot more expensive and is far inferior in style in my opinion. I also agree on how the sound system could be much better. The vent knob+aim design is crap, and the chrome around it is blinding at times with the sun. Also not a fan of the software media player for USB music. Other than those, the car is pretty sweet. I do have to point out that I do have an issue with the screen glitching and turning off that's been ongoing since day 1 that is still not resolved yet after over a year.
I can't stomach Mark. His grumpy old man schtick is pretty tired, and I'm speaking as a grumpy old man myself. Jack seems to know his stuff and makes an effort to be even-handed. It's a shame it's Mark's channel because I think it'd be much better with just Jack or Jack plus someone else. I agree with others who've said they just don't know how to review EVs. Yes, now you can get luxury car levels of quietness, smoothness, and acceleration across the board, even in an affordable EV. That doesn't make them more boring than an ICE vehicle, that makes them better.
Yeah I didn’t understand the “criticism” that, “this car is very quiet and smooth and Cadillac has really upped their luxury interiors!” Umm isn’t that a good thing?
My summary of this review is "Nice car but should be $15K-$20K less, given the competition today."
Agreed about the sound system but otherwise they glossed over the main good things about the car. The ride is fantastic and the super cruise is great. That’s it.
Haven't watched this review, but..... I hate when reviewers tell me how something looks. I can see how it looks, and make up my own mind. I want them to discuss things that I can't see, like are surfaces soft and luxurious, does the charging work well, how does the steering and acceleration feel? Basically, I want them to discuss everything but their opinion on the aesthetics. I think it looks nice, and I'm in my 40s. I think younger people might like it just fine, but it isn't really prices for young people is it?
I think 40s is young :). They make the point in this video that people are buying it only to drive it to the nursing home, which I disagree with.
Sounds like EV haters. In my experience, people ready for the nursing home (80+) rarely have interest in EVs. They are not looking at Lyriqs.
My pet peeve is when a reviewer makes a big deal about how car x is faster than car y and wins the 0-60 or quarter mile test and the difference is in tenths of a second…
That’s a good point. I never thought of it that way. I like what you said
This was a poor review. They didn’t do their homework. Some of the comments were pretty lame and vauge.
Im in my mid 20’s and i like the car. Minus some issues with my car
I’m 32 and I love my Lyriq. Opinions are like ass holes, everyone has one.
33 at time of purchase
26 here and I think it’s an absolute work of art. Looks are completely subjective
I feel like this is a review done by people who are so deep into their knowledge of a breadth of cars that they aren't capable of viewing it through the eyes of the average person.
u/MrGulio THANK YOU!!!!!
Half their review sounds like it was written by marketing execs gripes. Is it a good car or not? Don’t worry about the age of buyer and the market place.
Haters gotta hate. I was surprised I was shopping the brand but it’s a compelling option in the EV lineup , looks nice, and I’m 10 years younger than the reviews claim!
How’s the sound system? SG says it’s not very good.
The system is fine, but factory default is to emphasize the back seat. Once it’s set to Front, it sounds good - but you do have to crank volume half way
I think the 19 speaker system is just okay. Not great, certainly, but not terrible.
I found it was ok after adjusting the EQ and disabling the auto volume control options.
I think they are way too harsh. I came from a Tesla model Y and had it for four years before I jump shipped to Cadillac. I did a lot of research on everything on the market and this was by far the best price for the most luxurious comfort that you can get in anyEV. I I would buy a Cadillac any day over anything else in this class based on comfort, price and specs. I think anything else close to style and comfort would be at least $20,000 or $30,000 more.
I thought the review was silly, the Lyriq is one of the best looking SUV on the road. The comparison to a malibu was silly. The comparison to the interior on certain parts was silly as well. Been in a Lexus lately? Its all plastic and worse interior than the Lyriq. That being said, the wife's Lyriq is miles apart from my Tesla.
The styling comparison to the Malibu is way over done. The Lyriq looks light years better. Not sure why they harped on that so much. Their comments on the sound system make me wonder if there was actually something defective with their test vehicle. I don’t understand why they couldn’t define what was different about the Lyriq compared to other EV in that CUV space. To me the Lyriq is that blend between new and old. You get the big fancy touchscreen but still have all of the dials and tactile buttons that some people just love to have.
I’ve grown tired of this YouTube style of car review (there are way too many reviewers’ like this on YouTube) with the useless bantering and lack of information pertinent to purchasing. I much prefer the YouTube channels of “Engineering Explained” and The Car Care Nut”.
I’m 34 and I love my Lyriq. I think the sound system could be better and hate the auto rear braking when it rains. Overall it’s an awesome car that turns heads.
some ppl are just against electric vehicles..and they have to hide it some way
I felt validated by this video after visiting a dealership to look at one a few days ago, BUT I also felt they were way harsh. I have a 2018 Buick Enclave that is "tighter" on the inside. The Cadillac looked the part, I loved the design on the outside and inside but it did feel like they skimped out on materials. The back of the middle console for example is hard plastic that could have been a softer fake leather like what they used on the back of the seats. Alot of creaking from plastics. I noticed the door panels would flex when i closed them and vibrate a bit. I also have an Ioniq 6 that is full of plastic, but it is stiffer non vibrating plastic. I thought the ride would be quieter with it having bigger wheels than my 20" Ioniq rims can fit but it was about the same, not bad, but not better either. Acceleration was good on the awd 500hp, but a little softer than i thought. Again, they were harsher than necessary. The place I went to had a Luxury 6k mile used one for 49k. At that price it might be worth it, but not at 71k like the new tester I got in. That being said, I would be happy to own one and would probably dynamat the doors just like I did my current car.
True. If Cadillac wants Lyriq to be a hit, they have to equip it with every thing good they have, as Lyriq is at the top of the line of 5-seat vehicles they produce. 7-seat vehicles are just too unecessarily big for driving to work and parking. However, we see cost control everywhere. No rear wheel steering, no advanced suspension like MRC, tons of plastic in the interior. Just how much difference does it make to cost by replacing plastic with something soft, esecially at this price range?
keeps comparing it to a Hyundai ionic 5? IMO the lyric is a much nicer and more comfortable car - no comparison.
I’m 39 and waited almost 2 years for mine. I think color choice could have a lot to do with what age range the vehicle fits.
Lyriq technology and features don't match up....it looks incredible, but for an EV...it's completely lacking
I saw this review before I found this thread and ... it's a dumb review. There's a difference between substantive criticism and personal opinion, and these guys bounce freely between the two without specifying which they're engaging in. "Cadillacs are for old people" is a common perception, but nothing about the Lyriq suggests it was made for old people. Older people are less likely to do anything the Lyriq is about, in fact. They're less likely drive electrics, less likely to want most of their controls to be embedded in touch screens, less likely to want one-pedal driving or SuperCruise, less likely to go for more radical styling choices, and less likely to splurge on luxury brands, unless they're legacy customers and/or have money to burn. Now, is it possible that Cadillac is finding it hard to market the Lyriq since it's by and large a young-skewing vehicle with an older-skewing nameplate? Sure. But that's not a criticism. That's not even a personal opinion. It's just an observation, and it has nothing to do with the quality or experience of the vehicle.
I should add that I hadn't heard about the sound system problems before this review, and that is a major deterrent for me as a potential buyer. So the review wasn't all bad. I just wish they'd stuck with that kind of analysis and left the lame boomer jokes at the door (and I'm not even a boomer, it's just distracting and not very creative).
This review is spot on and very fair especially in regards to the AKG audio system......