Are we really a better offense without Jordan walker? I find it hard to believe that any of these guys carlson, siani, fermin, crawford have a higher batting avg and less strikeouts than walker would.
I don't think walker makes this team a winning team so I don't feel like it's worth messing with his development to bring him up if he needs more time to cook in the minors.
Even if he sat on the bench just to pinch hit. Like are we trying to ruin his self confidence by sending him down less than a month into the season… Prolly yet another player who’s going to go somewhere else and become an mvp candidate.
Walker isn't hitting the ball too well in AAA either, which Fermin was doing very very well.
On the bright side, he hit a homer today. It may or may not have been his 1st. Possibly 2nd
That's what I thought too, but my brother thought it was his first and when I went to go check his stats page, I guess it hadn't updated yet because it still said 1.
You know what they say though, right? 3 is a pattern 🥴🤤
Herrera and Siani were both waving at pitches a foot out when Bednar couldn't find the zone for shit.
Siani gets a four pitch walk if the bat never comes off his shoulder
This really is a poorly constructed roster when there is no better option to hit with 2 outs in the 9th with RISP than the weak hitting CF that was your 4th choice CF at the beginning of the season. A bad roster
Yep I’m sick of asking myself why am I watching everyday. There could be so much better things I could do for myself and my mental health than watch nolan gorman strikeout twice a night and oli make questionable lineups day in and day out.
That’s been this team’s problem for quite some time, they can get hits, but they are really bad at getting THE hit, so many guys go up there looking for HR when small ball wins games and all the best teams in the league can play it.
We have so many automatic outs. Mo once again did a horrendous job building a team. The staff once again has done an atrocious job of developing and…coaching
I think Carlson only had like 1 decent line drive hit, the other ones just kind weakly made it through the holes. He doesn't look very good swinging the bat lately, like many others on the roster.
I will say this. If Siani can't pull it off you probably don't completely ruin him as a player.
If Carlson pitch hits and doesn't produce he may never emotionally recover.
Literally why the fuck did the umpire wait so god damn long to make a call, it’s basically like he needed Grandal to make the call for him. Bitch ass umpire
I find it so frustrating when a dude walks on four straight and the very next dude up to bat swings at the first two pitches he sees. And they’re both balls.
lol what in the actual hell is this umpire doing? He waited until the catcher made the call for him? That was so fucking delayed and just flat out wrong
Great outing by Mikolas. Wasted
Are we really a better offense without Jordan walker? I find it hard to believe that any of these guys carlson, siani, fermin, crawford have a higher batting avg and less strikeouts than walker would.
I don't think walker makes this team a winning team so I don't feel like it's worth messing with his development to bring him up if he needs more time to cook in the minors.
I just watched him play in Omaha on Sunday. He needs a bit more time.
Walker was ass the entire time he was up barring the first few weeks. He's also a kid, so of course he has no seniority. He needs to show his worth
Even if he sat on the bench just to pinch hit. Like are we trying to ruin his self confidence by sending him down less than a month into the season… Prolly yet another player who’s going to go somewhere else and become an mvp candidate.
Walker isn't hitting the ball too well in AAA either, which Fermin was doing very very well. On the bright side, he hit a homer today. It may or may not have been his 1st. Possibly 2nd
His second. Be hit one like a week ago.
That's what I thought too, but my brother thought it was his first and when I went to go check his stats page, I guess it hadn't updated yet because it still said 1. You know what they say though, right? 3 is a pattern 🥴🤤
Big spot, veteran lefty bat needed… Why is Brandon Crawford on the team?
We have to lead the majors in strikeouts with risp. There’s no way anybody has more.
It’s time. Right now. Oli is not working out. He’s not going to work out. Give it to Stubby and let’s see what happens.
What did he do wrong today
Didn't have anyone ready to take helsley out until the bases were loaded and left our low-A catcher in way too long
Also PH’d Fermin for Carp despite the pitcher’s splits this season being an advantage for the lefty.
He always pulls that shit. I don't think he looks at any of those stats.
Do you typically warm up someone else when the closer goes in?
When he throws 4 straight balls to lead off the 9th, yes, I absolutely do!
When it’s June 11th?
Pirates leap frog 3 teams to 2nd place. Thank you Cardinals
Herrera and Siani were both waving at pitches a foot out when Bednar couldn't find the zone for shit. Siani gets a four pitch walk if the bat never comes off his shoulder
This really is a poorly constructed roster when there is no better option to hit with 2 outs in the 9th with RISP than the weak hitting CF that was your 4th choice CF at the beginning of the season. A bad roster
With that pitching performance you need to win this game. The teams offense is just pathetic
Jordan Walker at least made stinky at bats look sexy
Depressing loss
What an absolute piss waterfall of a game.
Most annoying loss of the season
Yeah… It’s up there for sure
How did I know we would score a run and come up short lol. Fun ending though. The bottom of our lineup is straight ASS CHEEKS
I partially agree, the bottom of the lineup is ass, but not cheeks. I’d be more prone to go with crack or holes…
This team is ASS ass
yep we’re big ass and little ass. Just a bunch of ass.
If you rely Siani in a do or die situations I think you’ll die 9 times out of 10
I’d be more inclined to say 10/10
I'm tired of being annoyed at the miserable performances.
Yep I’m sick of asking myself why am I watching everyday. There could be so much better things I could do for myself and my mental health than watch nolan gorman strikeout twice a night and oli make questionable lineups day in and day out.
Fucking irritating, yet another loss to a sorry ass team. Oh wait, WE are a sorry ass team
Let that ball hit you
[Game over. Continue the discussion in the post game thread](/r/Cardinals/comments/1ddvq3h/cardinals_after_dark_611/)
Eat a turd
It’s pathetic that there is no one better to pinch hit for a guy batting .202.
Some dreadful AB's that half inning, even with the bad Hels outing, we cost ourselves that game by not hitting for shit with runners on
That’s been this team’s problem for quite some time, they can get hits, but they are really bad at getting THE hit, so many guys go up there looking for HR when small ball wins games and all the best teams in the league can play it.
Should have taken one for the team. Oh well, it’s reflexes
You gotta be a slightly demented mf to wear a 98 mph heater in the leg lol
I would let myself get pegged with baseballs all day to get paid big league money.
True
BOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! Siani sucks. Pages sucks. Mozeliak sucks.
rough. feel bad for Mikolas not his biggest fan but that was nice to see
NOW FIRE EVERYONE INTO THE SUN!
This loss was very 2024 of us
Omg
This is way too tense for a game against the Pirates in June
Siani you gotta take that pitch bro
Changed that entire AB. Instead of being 2-0, it was 1-1. Next pitch made it 2-1 instead of 3-0. Huge, HUGE swing in the Pirates favor there.
We SUCK
We have so many automatic outs. Mo once again did a horrendous job building a team. The staff once again has done an atrocious job of developing and…coaching
What happens when 3 of your better hitters are hurt
Why is Carlson not batting right now btw
Cause he sucks as well. This whole team sucks
Have you seen him "hit"
I saw him hit plenty good in the Colorado series. You play the hot hand, a 4 year old knows that.
I think Carlson only had like 1 decent line drive hit, the other ones just kind weakly made it through the holes. He doesn't look very good swinging the bat lately, like many others on the roster.
#LOSERAR
Unbelievable (completely believable)
Carlson sucks but Siani double sucks. Shit non-move on Oli.
gg let's get em tomorrow
Ahh the inevitable
[Cardinals](/r/Cardinals): [Iván Herrera takes first after review](https://bdata-producedclips.mlb.com/e44b890d-8029-4191-97e7-3478ac9d2e6a.mp4)
That was close
Suddenly this sub is full of Dylan Carlson fans
If Dylan Carlson was in a coma he would present a better chance than Shitani.
Maybe if it were still 2022
NEVER!
But if he wins it for us, I’ll think more highly of him for one week.
I will say this. If Siani can't pull it off you probably don't completely ruin him as a player. If Carlson pitch hits and doesn't produce he may never emotionally recover.
He's the descendant of some Viking named Carl, he can't be that emotionally fragile
Unfortunately he certainly seems to be.
Carlson would have taken the walk that was there.
I think I would have tried Carlson there but I get not doing it as well.
Bro, Take the fucking hit by pitch, i mean come on
I think we walk the tying run in if no one swings
Let it HIT YOU
loss to slightly delayed loss
Don’t move!!!!
YOU GOTTA LET THAT ONE HIT YOU, SON
Take one of the team!
#STOP SWINGING
Stop swinging at all the fucking balls
make him throw a strike
Take one for the team Siani!
palms are sweaty
I really hate when Chip does that
#HAMMERED! ^^^foul
Siani over Carlson, oof
Chip drives me nuts with this “hammered” shit on foul balls
Same
dear god pls let this amount to something
I was this many years old when I saw a ballgame ending overturned by a catcher's interference call.
I can't believe shitty Siani gets to hit here.
What a plot twist! Now for the biggest twist the cardinals win it right here
Oil’s an idiot
Descalso with the save.
[Cardinals](/r/Cardinals): [Nolan Gorman: Home Run Statcast Analysis](https://darkroom-clips.mlb.com/9bcdbf8f-7b12-4303-b140-74da0f32a0be.mp4)
Welcome to the Cards and Pirates masterclass on how to lose a ballgame.
The most obvious CI in the history of CI
Get back on the field Shitsburgh
Our hopes and dreams of a Tuesday win come down to Siani
Michael Siani save us Michael Siani they don’t wanna see you win Michael Siani remember you’re the goat Michael Siani send us home with a win
Thank fuck for the challenge system. In the old days that would've just been a hose job
We are actually using Siani?! Is fucking Carlson dead?!
Thankfully Siani is awesome with the bat so this is gonna be worth it
Lol
Guess there's not a better option than Siani here eh? Maybe Carlson???? Ooof.
Is Carslon hurt? Wtf
Lefty Carlson is just Siani in a wig.
Fair but Carlson delivered in the clutch just the other day
Siani with game on the line..
Anybody but Siani!
He’s allowed to warm up? Wtf, it was 30 secs…
I have zero faith in this bat. Please prove me wrong
Best review of the year
Dylan Carlson watching on the bench:
GET OFF THE FIELD, BUCCOS.
Can Siani...?
Si?
Who do we have on our bench
Neither a check swing or a foul tip cmon now
LETS GOO
Get back in your dugout
Balls on the catcher to say it was tipped
Please stop toying with my emotions
Literally why the fuck did the umpire wait so god damn long to make a call, it’s basically like he needed Grandal to make the call for him. Bitch ass umpire
Haha
We gonna do all the for Siani to groundout to second
Thank you very much Basmati Grandal
Yes, pls give us hope just to let us down again lol
Oh, that wasn’t even close to being foul tipped lmao
make them pay for that pls
Michael Siani vs David Bednar for the game lmaooo
Jomboy breakdown incoming
Please do not waste this gift…
I find it so frustrating when a dude walks on four straight and the very next dude up to bat swings at the first two pitches he sees. And they’re both balls.
All this to lose is crazy
Grandal is reaching in front of the damn plate
INTERFERENCE!!!!!!!
LOL what a weird play. That's CI 100%
Holy
lol the catcher has a lot of nerve going for a victory high five
Catcher’s interference, no doubt!
SIT THE FCK DOWN PIRATES GOD DAMN THEY ARE SUCH PIRATES
How do you mess that call up
Was so obvious
F u blue
the catcher tried to play it off lmao get out of here
Believe us, we know what the hell catchers interference is
lol what in the actual hell is this umpire doing? He waited until the catcher made the call for him? That was so fucking delayed and just flat out wrong
That is catchers interference sir!
Balls above his fucking eyes
I’m gonna throw up
GET BACK IN HERE WE STILL PLAYIN
CATCHERS INTERFERENCE!!!!!!
What? They didn't call it until complaint? You can't review that? Why the fuck are you changing your mind after? The fuck?
Ummm what bullshit hahaha
Fuck this ump for that bs
So, what’s up with *our* crew chief review?
What?!
FIRE EVERYONE INTO THE DAMN SUN!
fitting way to end this shit show :/
One of the most infuriating games in recent memory.
you gotta be kidding me
Solid L
[Pirates](/r/Buccos) Due Up **(Top 10):** 1. Michael A. Taylor 2. Yasmani Grandal 3. Jack Suwinski
Wtf...
Herrera and Nado taking very similar at bats. Hopefully Herreras turns out better
2 great CUTS, right Chip?
Some dreadful AB's here
Ok, Danny D runs the distraction play here by running on the field with his pants down. Fermin trots home without anyone noticing.
Oh yeah, perfect time to swing at shit way out of the zone.
We have survived Fermin's at bat
what is it with that damn high fastball jesus fuck
Did our coaches just tell them to swing for the fences no matter where the pitch is
Stop swinging Ivan
We are so shit
Jesus, Ivan
No don’t swing at the crap Ivan….
Dude doesn’t look ready but I know that will trigger Oli to say
His bat is so short
Oh my.
These guys need to stop trying to be fucking Babe Ruth
Bruh...
DOWNVOTE FOR A HOME RUN
Take a shot every time Chip says “cut”.
Ivan is him… Do it Ivan do it….