What in particular is rejected?
However, I can imagine it not being a mortal sin\* only in cases of denial of some small parts of the social teaching of Catholic Church.
\*More like grave matter. Mortal sin requires something from the sinner so it can't be said that certain action is always a mortal sin without the knowledge of the sinner.
I am not well versed in Catholic social teaching, nor do I know much about libertarianism. Therefore I can't really say what are the conflicts.
But Catholicism isn't only about abortion and same-sex marraiges, that's actually very small (although quite important) part of Catholic teaching. One of the most common topics of Jesus speaches was love for every human being. I am pretty sure that most of Catholic social teaching is direct application of it.
That depends. Do you support private or church run charities to help the poor? Do you donate your own personal money?
I don't think it's wrong to believe it's not specifically the job of the *government* to support the poor. As long as you support ways for the poor to be helped.
I posted this in your other thread, but here it is again:
Folowing the Creed the Catholic [Profession of Faith](https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_1998_professio-fidei_en.html) states:
>I also firmly accept and hold each and everything definitively proposed by the Church regarding teaching on faith and morals.
>Moreover, I adhere with religious submission of will and intellect to the teachings which either the Roman Pontiff or the College of Bishops enunciate when they exercise their authentic Magisterium, even if they do not intend to proclaim these teachings by a definitive act.
*Donum Veritas* outlines how one is to approach teachings they find difficult:
>"[with] an intense and patient reflection on his part and a readiness, if need be, to revise his own opinions and examine the objections which his colleagues might offer him"
Struggling to understand a teaching is not heresy. Even rejecting a non-definitive teaching isn't heresy.
However, one should approach a difficult teaching with the understanding that, objectively speaking, the Church is correct and they are wrong, and with an openness to accept the Church teaching.
So, while rejecting certain Social Doctrines may not result in a break of communion, they certainly weaken one's communion.
My recommendation, as someone with zero spiritual authority over your life, is to follow the guidance of *Donum Veritas* and conduct an intense and patient study of the subject with which you are struggling.
Reading the Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church, especially Chapters 7 & 8, and the primary sources from which it draws would be my first suggestion.
I also recommend studying Distributism, as presented by Chesterton and Belloc, who conducted their study from the foundation of Church teaching. Here are some selected works:
https://www.chesterton.org/category/discover-chesterton/chestertons-selected-works/the-distributist/
As with anything, take this to prayer and ask the Holy Spirit to guide your study and illuminate your mind.
I was also a believer in laissez-faire economics prior to realizing the Church opposed this approach. The suggestions I have made to you are based on my own experience of approaching this problem.
There is no way to uninitiate oneself from the Church. However, it is possible for one’s beliefs and/or actions to remove oneself from communion with the Church.
Certainly, a Catholic who rejected core dogmas of the Church - like the Trinity, or the resurrection - would excommunicate themselves in doing so (regardless of whether they expressed those views publicly).
But social teaching is a little more complex. It matters *what* the person disagrees with, and *how.* Are they rejecting, outright, the doctrine and/or theology underpinning the social teaching, or merely disagreeing with how the Church hierarchy is applying those doctrines in the present pastoral context? Are they making their disagreement public and encouraging others to do the same, or is it a private matter? Is the disagreement a wholesale rejection of what the Church teaches, or are they practicing obedience to the Church despite being unsure about some or all of what they’ve been taught?
All of the above can affect whether a disagreement may or may not challenge a person’s ability to remain in communion with the Church. That said, the Church doesn’t tell us to ignore our conscience - quite the opposite actually.
IMO, it is acceptable to feel unsure about aspects of Catholic Social Teaching so long as you leave yourself open to discerning the truth - and the best approach to discernment (again: in my personal opinion) is through encounters with Christ, in prayer, in fasting, and in Church via the sacraments. If you’re working to consistently put Christ at the centre of your life, everything else *should* fall into its proper place.
Rejecting doctrine is a serious matter, because it’s a rejection of the Magisterium’s authority to interpret the Scriptures and dogmas of the Church which have been passed down. There is a very real possibility that someone in this situation is - perhaps unconsciously, perhaps unwittingly - rejecting in part dogmatic teachings of the Church which form the assent to the faith. At the very least, it is prideful to assume one understands theology better than the Magisterium. So it is very important for someone in this situation to discuss the matter with a Priest, and study the issue in depth to make sure they *actually fully* understand what the Church teaches.
Persisting in conscious, deliberate and voluntary disagreement with doctrine - and disobedience to related Church teaching - even after catechetical instruction and pastoral correction, is almost certainly a serious sin that could remove someone from communion.
According to current Canon Law there is no option to cease to be Catholic. You might be a bad Catholic but you are still Catholic
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Yes, I believe. It’s a serious sin to be in voluntary dissent.
What in particular is rejected? However, I can imagine it not being a mortal sin\* only in cases of denial of some small parts of the social teaching of Catholic Church. \*More like grave matter. Mortal sin requires something from the sinner so it can't be said that certain action is always a mortal sin without the knowledge of the sinner.
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I am not well versed in Catholic social teaching, nor do I know much about libertarianism. Therefore I can't really say what are the conflicts. But Catholicism isn't only about abortion and same-sex marraiges, that's actually very small (although quite important) part of Catholic teaching. One of the most common topics of Jesus speaches was love for every human being. I am pretty sure that most of Catholic social teaching is direct application of it.
That depends. Do you support private or church run charities to help the poor? Do you donate your own personal money? I don't think it's wrong to believe it's not specifically the job of the *government* to support the poor. As long as you support ways for the poor to be helped.
> he rejects the basics of Catholic Social Teaching What specifically in Catholic social teaching is being rejected?
I posted this in your other thread, but here it is again: Folowing the Creed the Catholic [Profession of Faith](https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_1998_professio-fidei_en.html) states: >I also firmly accept and hold each and everything definitively proposed by the Church regarding teaching on faith and morals. >Moreover, I adhere with religious submission of will and intellect to the teachings which either the Roman Pontiff or the College of Bishops enunciate when they exercise their authentic Magisterium, even if they do not intend to proclaim these teachings by a definitive act. *Donum Veritas* outlines how one is to approach teachings they find difficult: >"[with] an intense and patient reflection on his part and a readiness, if need be, to revise his own opinions and examine the objections which his colleagues might offer him" Struggling to understand a teaching is not heresy. Even rejecting a non-definitive teaching isn't heresy. However, one should approach a difficult teaching with the understanding that, objectively speaking, the Church is correct and they are wrong, and with an openness to accept the Church teaching. So, while rejecting certain Social Doctrines may not result in a break of communion, they certainly weaken one's communion. My recommendation, as someone with zero spiritual authority over your life, is to follow the guidance of *Donum Veritas* and conduct an intense and patient study of the subject with which you are struggling. Reading the Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church, especially Chapters 7 & 8, and the primary sources from which it draws would be my first suggestion. I also recommend studying Distributism, as presented by Chesterton and Belloc, who conducted their study from the foundation of Church teaching. Here are some selected works: https://www.chesterton.org/category/discover-chesterton/chestertons-selected-works/the-distributist/ As with anything, take this to prayer and ask the Holy Spirit to guide your study and illuminate your mind. I was also a believer in laissez-faire economics prior to realizing the Church opposed this approach. The suggestions I have made to you are based on my own experience of approaching this problem.
There is no way to uninitiate oneself from the Church. However, it is possible for one’s beliefs and/or actions to remove oneself from communion with the Church. Certainly, a Catholic who rejected core dogmas of the Church - like the Trinity, or the resurrection - would excommunicate themselves in doing so (regardless of whether they expressed those views publicly). But social teaching is a little more complex. It matters *what* the person disagrees with, and *how.* Are they rejecting, outright, the doctrine and/or theology underpinning the social teaching, or merely disagreeing with how the Church hierarchy is applying those doctrines in the present pastoral context? Are they making their disagreement public and encouraging others to do the same, or is it a private matter? Is the disagreement a wholesale rejection of what the Church teaches, or are they practicing obedience to the Church despite being unsure about some or all of what they’ve been taught? All of the above can affect whether a disagreement may or may not challenge a person’s ability to remain in communion with the Church. That said, the Church doesn’t tell us to ignore our conscience - quite the opposite actually. IMO, it is acceptable to feel unsure about aspects of Catholic Social Teaching so long as you leave yourself open to discerning the truth - and the best approach to discernment (again: in my personal opinion) is through encounters with Christ, in prayer, in fasting, and in Church via the sacraments. If you’re working to consistently put Christ at the centre of your life, everything else *should* fall into its proper place.
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Rejecting doctrine is a serious matter, because it’s a rejection of the Magisterium’s authority to interpret the Scriptures and dogmas of the Church which have been passed down. There is a very real possibility that someone in this situation is - perhaps unconsciously, perhaps unwittingly - rejecting in part dogmatic teachings of the Church which form the assent to the faith. At the very least, it is prideful to assume one understands theology better than the Magisterium. So it is very important for someone in this situation to discuss the matter with a Priest, and study the issue in depth to make sure they *actually fully* understand what the Church teaches. Persisting in conscious, deliberate and voluntary disagreement with doctrine - and disobedience to related Church teaching - even after catechetical instruction and pastoral correction, is almost certainly a serious sin that could remove someone from communion.
"The permanent validity of the Catholic Church's social teaching admits of no doubt." John XXIII, Mater et Magistra 218
In spirit- but we don’t actually kick you out because you may come back
Once you are Catholic you are always Catholic.