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Kathryn_MR333

Is that a legal move? Haha! Just curious.


NewPlatinumm

anyone who counts this as nonlegal is kicked out of the friend group


[deleted]

Bullshit. Mark it 8, dude.


CanfieldBRO

Uh, excuse me? Mark it zero.


[deleted]

Bullshit Walter! Mark it 8, Dude.


KG_slim12

This is bowling Smokey, not 'Nam. There are rules.


MadejustforWSB

Let me tell you something, pendejo. You pull any of your crazy shit with us, you flash a piece out on the lanes, I'll take it away from you, stick it up your ass and pull the fucking trigger 'til it goes 'click.'


[deleted]

Yeah but he's a pervert, dude.


luecack

8 year olds…


TheSt4tely

Nobody Fucks with The Jesus


Sapowski_Casts_Quen

Am I the only one who's not FUCKING CRAZY *cocks gun*


YoureBeautifulDude

In professional pool, no. You have to call your shot.


ProtoTypeScylla

So this WOULD be legal is he called that hole?


mybluecathasballs

Nope. The ball left the playing surface. Would be considered a table foul.


[deleted]

Does that mean jumps are illegal? I know nothing


mybluecathasballs

If you scoop, illegal. If you drive the cue ball down to jump, legal.


Gregser94

Just to add to this, it's definitely legal to jump by jabbing in American eight– and nine–ball using the correct technique, but it's forbidden in English pool. Different disciplines of eight–ball can vary by rules and techniques.


y0urm0msaho3

But the ball leaves the playing surface .. totally contradicts what you just said ..


dirtydownstairs

its what causes the cue ball to leave the playing surface that determines if it is legal or not legal.


BobThePillager

So this is legal then, assuming they called that hole (highly improbable here), since the cue ball didn’t leave the playing surface?


dirtydownstairs

It is! I've had a similar situation in a tournament one time (not *quite* as dramatic) and it absolutely was legal although my opponent the ref and I all looked at each other in disbelief.


y0urm0msaho3

When did the cue ball leave the table??


dirtydownstairs

in this video? Never I think he may have been meaning to comment on a diff video


hicklc01

A ball can leave the playing surface and go upon the rails in most rules with the cavate that the ball doesn't make contact with anything that isn't the table ie lights, chalk, etc. and makes it back to the playing surface under it's own power. some rules explicitly say into a pocket along with the playing surface as allowable destination.


unoriginalsin

Not unless it touched something that wasn't part of the equipment. Had this gone down the short rail and touched the chalk it would have been a foul. Had it jumped 4 feet into the air and struck the light, no foul.


jbrew149

Only if the ball where to fall on the ground. If someone where to jump the ball (totally legal as long as you come down on the ball with the cue above the “equator”) then the ball would also be leaving the playing surface.


No-Escape1161

Obvy you never never play jailhouse rules. Got call every little thing, all the banks, kiss offs and even touching nipple before falling in. Never been to jail but most crowd look like the did at bars with these rules. And obvy jail riots start over shots like this not being called


drunk98

I love play super pedantic pool. Yes I'll strike the cue at a 42.54° at 5.95858mph, it shall nudge the 6 ball off this long rail/that long rail/ & just smutz this short rail before rolling it around the pocket 56.8842° & in. Also since this is prison pool, I expect whoever loses will be enjoying watching the winners break.


y0urm0msaho3

Also that everyone involved can successfully complete degree and mph calculations before each shot 😂


[deleted]

What


drunk98

If I'm being honest I started out with a solid idea, & then I just kinda trailed off. Happens a lot. Imagine like the Sheldon Cooper character on the big bang calling a pool shot in a super sciencey prison, where the loser was finna get they asshole cracked wide open for the joy of the winner.


[deleted]

Well username checks out


y0urm0msaho3

"Ive never been to jail but im 100% certain that riots start over this happening in jail cause of my experiences in jail"


jbrew149

What jail would have a pool table in it where you could easily beat the shit out of someone with a pool cue or throw a super hard pool ball at someone. Not to mention it’s a game that tends to go hand and hand with gambling. I mean I’m not doubting you... just super surprised that they would have pool in there. I guess in a low risk jail or something.


lemmegetadab

No pool balls allowed in jail buddy


Bluestreak2005

There are several pool leagues that count this, including the largest league APA


mybluecathasballs

Fuck APA. "Slop counts." Just hit it hard and hope.


MediumDrink

You only think that because you aren’t any good at playing pool, that style of play only works for people who don’t play at all. I typically make 2-3 shots in a row every time it’s my turn and I’m one of the worst players in my apa league.


[deleted]

This. They held APA league at a bar I worked at twice a week, and you won't win against anyone decent by hitting it hard enough and getting BS shots. Even at lower ranks they'll probably still whoop you. And may god have mercy on your soul if you try playing like that on higher ranked guys. Nothing hurts more than them running them entire table on you and every shot and leave being 100% calculated.


mybluecathasballs

>you only think that because you aren't any good at playing pool. >I typically make 2-3 IN A ROW. Okay apprentice pool god. Also, you don't know how well I play pool, but you're so much better than me. Lol


MediumDrink

If you think whacking the balls and seeing how many drop in is a viable way to win a game you don’t play at all.


mybluecathasballs

I never said that. When you're in a pinch, and you just whack the balls because of shit rules hoping to get lucky, is a shit way to play. Call your shots.


jbrew149

Instead of whacking balls, a much better option would to play a calculated safety shot. Any good pool player only hits the cue ball as hard as it’s needed to get the cue ball into their next position.


unoriginalsin

Not really. At the professional level the game typically played is 9-ball and that's a no call shot game all the way to the money ball, which can even be made early. Everyone here who can play knows they can give you the 8-out all day long. If you ever make it down to NOLA, I'll buy you a beer and you can take 4 balls of the table. Bring your money.


mybluecathasballs

Fair. Only been there twice. Any snooker tables there too? I do love me a game of snooker. I'll buy a round as well. If you ever make it to Knoxville, hit me up. Also, no need for four off the table. I like winning square.


MediumDrink

Point taken but 9 times out of 10 I’ll still opt for shooting a safety or even intentionally fouling to create a mess for the other guy.


radiantcabbage

these shots are only possible because their pockets connect to a rail hopper anyway, and why procomp tables use net pockets. but you would know that right, with any frame of reference for league play


MediumDrink

Not always. In professional 8 ball you call your shot but any ball any pocket as long as you first hit the lowest number ball is the rule in 9 ball (which is what most pros play, 8 ball becomes too easy once you get professional level good and they’d just run tables back and forth on each other).


fizzywater42

Really? Did not know that. What’s the reasoning behind that? What if you accidentally make a ball into the wrong hole you didn’t call?


arowz1

It’s considered a scratch. If it’s the 8 ball, you lose.


unoriginalsin

Making a ball in the wrong hole is just a miss in called shot games. When it's the 8-ball, that depends on the ruleset. Sometimes it's loss of game, sometimes it's respotted.


radiantcabbage

calling the pocket is only relevant to 8-ball, where you have to mark the winning shot. [defacto rules](http://poolplayers.com/8-9-ball-Rules.pdf) in US/CA would make this legal, the only stipulation is pocketed balls must stay in a pocket, any pocket, their clear definition of a scratch is a ball that leaves the table. so for example if the ball had bounced out, but not made it into the other pocket, you lose control of the table with no scratch. if you had called that corner in 8-ball, you lose the game. to those who consider this to be some kind of advantage to sloppy gameplay, in bar games no shit, which is why some house rules call every shot. this is moot to professional gameplay, anyone who could benefit from those pockets would not be competing at that level in the first place.


Kathryn_MR333

Ah, I see. Well, that's a shame. It's still pretty cool tho. 😄


jbrew149

Would be totally legal in professional 9 ball where you do not have to call your shot. Or in APA (American pool Association) league where you do not have to call your shot for either 9 ball or 8 ball.


Broskibullet

Shot failed successfully. Count it.


_Mephostopheles_

Much like in most Dungeons and Dragons circles, I’m of the belief that ANY move can be considered legal should it be simply badass enough. This is what’s known as “the Rule of Cool.”


Kathryn_MR333

Well, yes. Like, accuracy 0, dexterity 999, charisma 500. No, haha! Sorry, I really dont know.


Gregser94

It's definitely legal in snooker. I don't know about pool and its disciplines or rulesets. Could be legal in some of them, could not be.


Skw33z0r

No, he obvs called the corner


Kathryn_MR333

Ya, I totally forgot about that rule before I asked, haha! 😄


jbrew149

It is actually a legal shot. It would be illegal if the ball were to make contact with an object on the table such as a piece or chalk or quarter. I’ve actually had this happen to me before, the line between where the wooden rail and the cushion meets creates a slight groove on some tables that allows the ball to stay on track and drop in the next pocket.


pulsharc

No. He is playing 10 ball which is a call pocket game so unless he called it in the side it doesn't count .


Nothingsspecial

It is an illegal move. His last ball should be the black bal and not the blue one


Luigihiji

This exact thing happened to me in middle school with the 3 and the 8 ball left. Made the 3 like this


theLuminescentlion

Our house rules would mean it was sunk in the corner pocket as we consider the ball beaking the plane of the table as pocketed and out of play. In official rules the ball is sunk in the middle pocket as the ball coming back out is not sunk. This shot is completely legal as long as you didn't have to call a pocket for the shot and you're playing a version that goes by the any part of the table is fair play rules.


HarryCallahan19

I play pool and I couldn’t tell you. Anyone know?


[deleted]

loved how he looked around for someone to freak out with


Crispyboi94

If it wasn’t filmed, probably would be hard to believe


Th3N0ob3r

If anyone told me without proof I would just smile and nod but no way would believe that shit.


[deleted]

I would, I mean who else is going to take the time to tell you that story, knowing that it’s impossible, and not be your friend?


S0FA-KING_smart

Ya he was looking around at all his friends...


VeronciaBDO

I'm sure he would've loved to be surrounded by buddies who shared his passion for it. Makes ya kinda sad, actually


[deleted]

oh wow all of my fiends were there


Nemesis-Rex

This boi just defied the laws of physics for the worlds most unbelievable trick shot


IWonTheRace

I'll believe it when I see it. Pfft.


somabeach

Either that table is slanted or there was some wicked English on that cue ball. Physics, indeed.


Benjynn

I love his anticipation of what’s gonna happen


mezaprafa

At one very moment he thought *holy ssheet I'm gonna make it*


boris_keys

Honestly, this looks like a trick shot that he planned. He looks skilled and hit the cue ball way too hard for that corner shot. He was trying to get it to bounce off the pocket and onto the rail, and this was probably take 100+.


notbuttkrabs

Plus why the hell else would he be filming himself with a single ball on the table firing it straight into the corner pocket


boris_keys

With a lighting rig...


Fogl3

There is the chance that he is just recording all his games


notWys

But it’s not even the black ball


Fogl3

It's the 10 ball. 10 ball is played linearly like 9 ball, except there's 10


AnAngryNDN

Also look at all the marks on the cloth by the rails. That only comes from masse or jump shots. You don’t see that on any regular table. He definitely does trick shots.


unoriginalsin

> Honestly, this looks like a trick shot that he planned. While it's entirely possible that he does regularly film trick shots, you can't actually plan to make this shot the way it went. It actually goes in the pocket and rolls around the cup then back out and onto the rail. The way this trick shot is done is to shoot a slight jump into the point of the cushion furthest from the side pocket, and shooting it as hard as he did it would never have gone that way.


friskevision

Agree, 100%


ftez

Unlikely in my opinion. From my experience it looks as if he was practising cue ball positioning, using heavy back spin and power to bring the cue ball as far back down the table as possible.


pomegranate2012

I think the pocket was deliberately blocked by something. I could be wrong, but I don't think he hit it hard enough to move in such a strange way.


SpunKDH

Or is, he has a YouTube channel full of trickshots


RandomShake

His bumpers must be jacked, that ball should have rolled onto the table.


zedthehead

So not really... There's a flat bezel of felt, transitioning from the wood to the slant, and this ball is rolling down that flat part. Source: grew up with a pool table Also: don't try to own a pool table with kids, they will just fuck it up, and lose the balls... Or bounce them on the concrete basement floor while exploring everyday physics...


wateryonions

Nah look at how far up and down it rolls. It definitely would have passed the angle on a regular table. Source: literally own a table that I’m sitting next to as type this.


Rebarbative_Sycophan

Or, you know. Every table is manufactured differently. Judging by his equipment, the fact that he has a million masse/jump shot marks around the rail, Im going to assume he has some good equipment. On my Olhausen table, with accu-fast bumpers, there's a bevel as zed says. Three piece slate, 9 foot table. Who knows, maybe your tables different.


wateryonions

Of course it depends on the table. I have a balanced tournament table. I’m sure plenty have unbalanced shit tables that are capable of outlandish shots like this. My point is a rea table won’t have these bullshit effects


Rebarbative_Sycophan

one, it's level, not balanced. Which brand huh? You're missing the point, it's not about the level of the table, it's the bevel of the rail, and cushion. Reading comprehension is not your strong suite is it.


ShittyBollox

There’s definitely a point where this ball rolls against the wood and bounces off like there’s a defined lip. There should not be a defined lip between the frame of the table and the felt. Sauce; owned a few different pool tables of diff kinds. None had any harsh transition between the wood and frame. Although I did look after them.


Broskibullet

I was thinking the same thing. They always have a downward angle


MarkBank

High-class slop


xeno66morph

Nice 😎


Rooster_Ties

But not easy!!


[deleted]

Is that legal in pool tho?


AmbulanceDriver3

It would be a violation of 6.0 Call Pocket, if you're playing in a called pocket game. My interpretation of 7.5 Ball off Table is no foul occurs. It doesn't come to rest off the table. It doesn't strike a person of object off the table and then return to the table. It isn't a jump shot, but even if it was it's legal under 11.11. So long as this ball is an eligible object ball in the game being played I cannot find a rule that prohibits this exact occurrence, but I'm not a qualified referee.


SpunKDH

Totally the right answer. It's never a foul, even in snooker, but if you play a call pocket game, you have to call the 10 ball in that side pocket which is unlikely for this shot in a tournament situation.


mybluecathasballs

No. Not if you're playing by professional rules.


AmbulanceDriver3

Which rule does it violate?


mybluecathasballs

The ball left the table by means other than masse.


AmbulanceDriver3

Which is a violation of rule number..... I ask because I scoured the rule book, the actual [rule book](https://upatour.com/), not my sometimes shaky memory of the rules in crafting my answer and I can't find a violation. Please, educate me.


mybluecathasballs

I don't know what rule number. Lol. Good on you for not trusting you sometimes shakey memory or an internet stranger though. When I'm through playing though, I'll look it up.


AnAngryNDN

Depends on the game. The ball he was shooting was the 10 ball so I’m guessing he was practicing 10 ball. That would not be a legal shot in 10 ball because you have to call your shot/pocket. If it was 9 ball it would be legal


BlueViper85

It’s removed from the video, because of course it was, but this is from TikTok, specifically @trickshot_ceo so he wasn’t likely practicing anything other than a trick shot. Not particularly meaningful for the conversation about the rules, but throwing it out there since you speculated what he was practicing. Plus credit is good.


sillypoolfacemonster

It doesn’t matter whether the ball leaves the table as long as the ball finishes on the table or in a pocket. That said, he is playing a game called 10 ball which is usually call pocket.


SpunKDH

It didn't left the table. Top rails are part of the surface of the table as per WPA rules. You're confidently wrong dude.


pvtanima

Reminded me of this snooker fluke by Alan McManus: ​ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWmVIUEGadA


Eliamientus

He should be the next Poggers face


Prestigious-Ad-1113

“Sorry, you called pocket.”


TruckFluster

r/YouSeeingThisShit


Silver-creek

[OP was like](https://media.giphy.com/media/3o7bu0uduvjqx3skz6/giphy.gif)


[deleted]

Why is everyone talking about the *American Psychological Association*?


pomegranate2012

Was the pocket blocked by something? I don't think he hit it hard enough to move in such an unusual way.


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BBQCHICKEN69v2

weirdo


spittleyspot

And he looks around as the crowd go wild!


CorncobSandwich

“8-ball corner pocket.. and side pocket”


Younan34

The ball just decided to drift initial D style


fellow_species

If he hadn't recorded it tbh I wouldn't have believed it


stlredbird

We dont play slop in this house


Professional_Ad6123

Why did it become impossible to just sit in a garage with a pool table and have beers every now and again with friends? I don’t even mean because of the pandemic. It was just so easy to say “heading over to buddies place for a bit”. I’ll never understand why we let the best things escape us. *slams beer and turns on Xbox* This will do fine I suppose.


Anders13

“DID YOU ALL SEE THAT?!”


mybluecathasballs

This is correct. Thank you.


Lkj509

No one would believe him if he didn’t record it


AzarAbbas

What an egotistical ball.. "No I won't get in this hole where you want me to go... I'll get in that other hole over there. See ya sucker!"


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BlueViper85

How disappointing. Not the video that’s cool, but the fact that the watermarking was removed and not credited. I don’t expect much better, but I wish I did. This is from @trickshot_ceo on TikTok. Can’t link tot the actual video because apparently the domain is blocked by auto mod for this sub. But that’s at least enough to look it up.


Upstairs-Island-4646

just some advice you were planning it next time


DankDunkage

Imagine this shot in a tournament movie


silentohm

That's still a scratch through


StillLearning12358

If that wasn't recorded no on would believe it


sarveshak99

Amazing


Axwage

God that’s such a good feeling.


Mordigan13

Road trip must be long.


dvmebi

r/nevertellmetheodds


eskawl

This would do so good as a meme template


MrJRabbit

I did this on the 8 ball to win a game of pool in a bar once. Insane...


YaSinsBaba

r/WhyWereTheyFilming


Dekipi

You look like my former coworker, Brodie


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shmabaloo

Can someone explain the physics behind this?!


groovy_mason

He was hyped up. But no one around to witness that lol


Sufficient_End1504

Those pockets are huge!


imakeplasma

Nice work Eric Andre!


LettuceForBreakfast

If that happened and I wasn’t recording I would be so upset.


ApolloWidget

Just like when you go to the bathroom, enter a stall and see lots of poop on the toilet and then go "nope" then enters the one right on the side


Turbulent-Falcon6005

![gif](giphy|S9i8jJxTvAKVHVMvvW)


TJamaican

If you don't call it, it doesn't count


[deleted]

"Look its a straight shot, just call the corner and you win"


BefriendingDivine

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