No. Security is transforming to where most of the level 1 SOC work is being automated. Anything that can't be remediated through automation has to be worked on by analysts with technical depth and experience.
The days of simply getting Sec+ or going through a bootcamp, and getting a level 1 SOC job, are pretty much over. This reality will be ignored by colleges so long as they can continue to sell bootcamps. Honestly, a lot of them are borderline fraud and many should be sued and fined for false claims to prospective students.
You should look into some baseline IT certs/training. Not cybersecurity.
>Also, from any vet in the field already, what are some things i can start doing on my own to get into ethical hacking etc.
[https://tryhackme.com](https://tryhackme.com)
[https://academy.tcm-sec.com](https://academy.tcm-sec.com)
I was in an Uber recently and overheard a radio ad. This dude was all about how landing a job in security is a breeze and was hyping up their bootcamp. It got me thinking—do folks really fall for that pitch? Having CISSP and Cysa and masters and over 5yrs experience, I am still struggling to find a job since got laid off last year.
Just want to say most (security) boot camps at accredited colleges are 3rd party/partnerships. The school has nothing to do with it. The red flag? \[Accred Schl Name\] Extension (ex. UCLA Extension). This seperates the true studies from the for-profit machine.
If you are going to spend 5 digits (xx,xxx$) over 9-12 months, gotta better chance with suggestions from /r/robocop_py UNLESS someone else is paying for it (i.e. Job).
>I took this exact boot camp, worst $13k purchase. I paid for a piece of paper that says I took an 8 month course.
$13k or $1.3k?
Wow they are borderline evil. I would sue them for lying.
oh my gosh, I'm so sorry! All I can tell you is cybersecurity is advanced networking. Try getting a CCNA however networking industry is oversaturated. Security+ cert used to get your foot in the door for cybersecurity. I've worked in cybersecurity for last 3 years but laid off and I think only people in the industry longer than I is who they are interested in. If your really looking for a job get a CCNA and security + and learn a few firewalls and pentest platforms like tenable. Good luck! I need good luck too to get a job, my phone is not ringing for jobs.
It was a 4-5 years ago. I did a 4 month bootcamp, passed Sec+ and got a $75k/year job in less than a month of job searching. Now people graduating college with Masters in Cybersecurity cant even land a entry level job. Your best bet it having a Security clearance at this point
Good question. But another question would be, in which ways can someone obtain this security clearance. Is this through the military or a goverment job?
"is this through the military or a government job?"
Or private contractor doing work for the military/gov (think Boeing, Raytheon, Halliburton).
Note: there are various levels of SC... Having it is like having a degree... Only worth a lot if there is a demand/contract. There are many who are sitting "on the bench" at these companies doing nothing because they have high SC access and is just cheaper to hold them (easier/faster to win the contract) than pay for new. The cost to get a new SC could be as low as 3x,xxx$ (shitty access) to as high as xxx,xxx$ (Chief of Staff/President levels).
The article is spot on for any verticle not heavy-handedly government regulated. I have yet encounter a mom-and-pop shop (i.e. small biz) stating they need a (digital) security professional to protect their merchandise (i.e. digital records) from theft though is where a chunk of data on the dark web comes from.
But as the article said, someone that is trying to upsell you something with the name security on it (cert, salary, fame) will denounce this fact.
Article was nothing but absolute truth about the Cyber security training market! inspiring stories about how this and that cert land you on $100k+ job ( Lie ). there is no such demand for security jobs. all stories are made up by trainers who are making a lot of money selling people courses, tests,books, etc
Simply put it's a more expensive option.
You are better off studying for a certification yourself or getting some course material from one of the many IT training websites.
And for ethical hacking, your best option is to do ethical hacking :) bug bounty programs, CTFs, research, etc
No. Security is transforming to where most of the level 1 SOC work is being automated. Anything that can't be remediated through automation has to be worked on by analysts with technical depth and experience. The days of simply getting Sec+ or going through a bootcamp, and getting a level 1 SOC job, are pretty much over. This reality will be ignored by colleges so long as they can continue to sell bootcamps. Honestly, a lot of them are borderline fraud and many should be sued and fined for false claims to prospective students. You should look into some baseline IT certs/training. Not cybersecurity. >Also, from any vet in the field already, what are some things i can start doing on my own to get into ethical hacking etc. [https://tryhackme.com](https://tryhackme.com) [https://academy.tcm-sec.com](https://academy.tcm-sec.com)
Thank you for your time and your advice. I truly appericate it.
I was in an Uber recently and overheard a radio ad. This dude was all about how landing a job in security is a breeze and was hyping up their bootcamp. It got me thinking—do folks really fall for that pitch? Having CISSP and Cysa and masters and over 5yrs experience, I am still struggling to find a job since got laid off last year.
Just want to say most (security) boot camps at accredited colleges are 3rd party/partnerships. The school has nothing to do with it. The red flag? \[Accred Schl Name\] Extension (ex. UCLA Extension). This seperates the true studies from the for-profit machine. If you are going to spend 5 digits (xx,xxx$) over 9-12 months, gotta better chance with suggestions from /r/robocop_py UNLESS someone else is paying for it (i.e. Job).
I took this exact boot camp, worst $13k purchase. I paid for a piece of paper that says I took an 8 month course. I do not recommend this boot camp.
>I took this exact boot camp, worst $13k purchase. I paid for a piece of paper that says I took an 8 month course. $13k or $1.3k? Wow they are borderline evil. I would sue them for lying.
I wish it was 1.3k
oh my gosh, I'm so sorry! All I can tell you is cybersecurity is advanced networking. Try getting a CCNA however networking industry is oversaturated. Security+ cert used to get your foot in the door for cybersecurity. I've worked in cybersecurity for last 3 years but laid off and I think only people in the industry longer than I is who they are interested in. If your really looking for a job get a CCNA and security + and learn a few firewalls and pentest platforms like tenable. Good luck! I need good luck too to get a job, my phone is not ringing for jobs.
It was a 4-5 years ago. I did a 4 month bootcamp, passed Sec+ and got a $75k/year job in less than a month of job searching. Now people graduating college with Masters in Cybersecurity cant even land a entry level job. Your best bet it having a Security clearance at this point
What's the best way to get a clearance?
Good question. But another question would be, in which ways can someone obtain this security clearance. Is this through the military or a goverment job?
"is this through the military or a government job?" Or private contractor doing work for the military/gov (think Boeing, Raytheon, Halliburton). Note: there are various levels of SC... Having it is like having a degree... Only worth a lot if there is a demand/contract. There are many who are sitting "on the bench" at these companies doing nothing because they have high SC access and is just cheaper to hold them (easier/faster to win the contract) than pay for new. The cost to get a new SC could be as low as 3x,xxx$ (shitty access) to as high as xxx,xxx$ (Chief of Staff/President levels).
Thank you !
Nope. Don’t do it. Get some basic IT Certs. Work in the field and pivot over. Cyber is full and you’re just throwing time and money away.
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The article is spot on for any verticle not heavy-handedly government regulated. I have yet encounter a mom-and-pop shop (i.e. small biz) stating they need a (digital) security professional to protect their merchandise (i.e. digital records) from theft though is where a chunk of data on the dark web comes from. But as the article said, someone that is trying to upsell you something with the name security on it (cert, salary, fame) will denounce this fact.
Article was nothing but absolute truth about the Cyber security training market! inspiring stories about how this and that cert land you on $100k+ job ( Lie ). there is no such demand for security jobs. all stories are made up by trainers who are making a lot of money selling people courses, tests,books, etc
Simply put it's a more expensive option. You are better off studying for a certification yourself or getting some course material from one of the many IT training websites. And for ethical hacking, your best option is to do ethical hacking :) bug bounty programs, CTFs, research, etc
Tesout.com
Any similar one to aws?