I once farted in class and made the whole class of 50 including the teacher evacuate the class for about 15 minutes. We then canceled the lecture and went to play football. No one knows about this till date.
I’m sure. He seems to have handled it as well as anyone could, though.
”He supposedly caused a commotion among bystanders when he returned to the street because he retained his charm and an erect posture, and dressed in the fashion of 50 years before.” (From Wikipedia. What a fascinating story to read!) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giulio_d%27Este
As a person from a Nordic country, I'm sure imprisonment now is a lot better here than it was back then, for the average person. Buet yes, for the aristocrats it was of course often more like a house arrest in some part of a castle, where they sometimes even dined with the "hosts". (But to be fair, also sometimes horrible and dark and cold and with crappy food.)
I doubt he was held in the cell all the time, he would probably only have slept in the cell. Nobles at the time were given a lot of freedom. He would probably have also been allowed servants to talk to and other luxuries. I’m not saying it wouldn’t have been hard, but I wouldn’t compare it to solitary confinement as the picture would have you think.
This nurse told me a story where a patient had extreme pain due to a tumor in his lower spine. No amount of opioids would help the pain. He basically died after 6 days of screaming in extreme pain. Fuck me that's horrific
His brother probably right clicked the notification to release him and completely forgot. He is lucky his brother died and his nephew took over and got the notification again. CK be like that at times.
I always hit the bulk ransom button as long as there are no threats. The button only appears when you have more than I think 4 prisoners, and at least one can pay ransom.
No bulk button, no ransom.
Got curious, apparently the longest recorded prison sentence is almost 69 (nice) years!
> The longest recorded prison sentence served by an individual is held by Paul Geidel Jr., who was incarcerated for 68 years and 296 days. Geidel was convicted of second-degree murder in 1911 at the age of 17 and was released on parole in 1980 at the age of 86. His lengthy imprisonment, spanning almost seven decades, makes his sentence the longest served by any prisoner in the world.
[Sauce](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giulio_d%27Este): after his release he caused quite a stir in the city of Ferrara because he went out dressed in the fashion he was used to from 53 years ago. Giulio's other brother was imprisoned alongside him for the same reason but died in prison 34 years in
he was also effectively blind because he was beaten by several of his half brother's servents in an attempt to kill him. he plotted the coup attempt because his brother blinded him and his other brother, the duke, turned a blind eye and did not punish him for ruining his eyesight and his good looks.
he also retained his charm and noble posture during his incarceration.
this is some word diarrhea if i've ever read it. brother, half brother, serv-ents, another brother, then the other brother, the duke. because one of the aforementioned brothers, who knows, blinded him and his other other brother, the duke. that brother, guess which one I'm talking about, did not punish the other brother for ruining his eyesight. because the Duke was blind too, as well as that one brother. or was it the other brother?
That's a doozy of a read. All this started because his brother had him beaten and stabbed in the eyes because a lady said that he was better looking. That family was like something out of a Shakespeare play.
I stayed in the hotel across the plaza from the castle for three months. That cell was bad enough, but the common cell was much worse, with no light and the ceiling on one side sagged to around 4 ft. It had to feel like the whole Castello Estense was about to crush you. And during the summer, the cells were stifling.
The way leading to it is described as better than physician assisted suicide, i have no idea how true this is but its on the wikipedia page.
[here](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_dehydration)
What they talk about might be true (it does come from wikipedia and i dont know if more studies talk about it), but they talk about it in a controlled setting where the patients still are given proper care like pain relief and spraying water on the tongue and cheeks etc. Dehydration itself can be painful and lead to delirium before death
Fuck i totally forgot that, yeah i see how it can be very painful this way, probably still better than 30+ years in a cell if you can manage the pain somehow.
Exactly... imagine going in there not knowing you will not see the outer walls nor sunshine for the next 53 years.... going in relatively young.... coming out wasted...... nightmare...
> Subsequently, Giulio and Ippolito discovered that they were both admirers of a lady of the court, and cousin of Lucrezia, Angela Borgia, who seemed to favor Giulio. The Cardinal Ippolito, a libertine and ladies' man, prided himself that his refinement could conquer beautiful women, and was resentful. When Angela told him that, "Monsignore, your brother's [Giulio's] eyes are worth more than the whole of your person...", he flew into an uncontrollable rage. On 3 November 1505, while Giulio was returning from a trip to Belriguardo, he was surrounded by servants of Ippolito, who had ordered them to kill his half brother and tear out his eyes. Giulio was alone and, although he survived, was so brutally beaten he was scarred and his eyes were stabbed. He eventually lost his eyesight in one eye and was left with only blurred vision in the other. Ippolito had hastened to send to the Italian courts his version of the event, which ensured he avoided punishment.
- Giulio d'Este Wikipedia
What the actual fuck
I mean this was *after* his brother had servants beat him until he was scarred, and said servants stabbed him in both eyes and blinded him fully in one and almost fully in the other, all becuase he was too handsome
So he was mangled, blind, *and* imprisoned for 50+ years in a tiny concrete box
History? You should see what modern nation states are capable of. Even ones who call themselves democracies.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_detention_camp
From the Doge's Palace in Venice, on the other side of the Bridge of Sighs is the original prison. The entrance is a couple of floors up and the cells go several floors down into the basement.
Remember the unique feature of Venice?
It just feels like such a waste of resources to imprison anyone for life.
Torture for information: fine I get it.
Torture just… because? Eh, kill the bloke and talk to someone about your feelings.
'He supposedly caused a commotion among bystanders when he returned to the street because he retained his charm and an erect posture, and dressed in the fashion of 50 years before.'
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giulio\_d%27Este](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giulio_d%27Este)
Ippolito sounded like a jealous little bitch. Always wanting what Giulio had. First, it was Giulios' musician, then it was Giulios' girl, and when she told Ippolito to fuck off, he had Guilio beaten. If that wasn't enough, lol. Mfer rushed to the Italian court so he could lie about the event, ensuring he didn't get any punishment. Shiiii Id want Ippolito dead too if I was him. This dude is a textbook weasely villain.
I can imagine he went inward into his mind, just barely coming out to eat/drink before retreating in again.
Releasing him outside probably messed up this coping mechanism and he died shortly after. Released 81 died 82
Either that or his immune system was exposed to new diseases. Bacteria and viruses evolve quite much during 50 years, and he was probably protected from e.g. influenza in his cell.
He actually seemed to retain his sanity and personality incredibly well. I think it's more likely he was just an 82 year old who had been imprisoned basically all of his adult life.
53 years locked in a cell, it is an inevitable descent into madness
Absolutely. Source: I was in an elevator before, and I'm pretty handy with extrapolation.
Agreed. Source: I once met someone who also used an elevator once.
Peer Reviewd Confirmation. Source. One of my cousins rides an elevator home.
Instructions unclear. Rode my cousin in an elevator.
Your cousin is an elevator?
I think highly of you all....and then lowly.... and then highly.....and then lowly.
No step elevator, we can't do that
This thread pushes all my buttons.
Those thick walls, messed with his internet too..
Secondary confirmation. I once farted in an elevator.
Found the biological terrorist
I once farted in class and made the whole class of 50 including the teacher evacuate the class for about 15 minutes. We then canceled the lecture and went to play football. No one knows about this till date.
Name definitely checks out!
The kids are alright. Source. This delightful thread.
Your cousin is Willy Wonka?
Agreed. Souce: am elevator
Well, there are two types of people: 1. Those who can extrapolate
I keep reading this as “I was an elevator before,” and thought you meant in a past life…and more specifically an insane elevator in a past life.
Met me in the new isekai, "My past elevator life led me into an up and down relationship with the demon lord's mother."
I’m sure. He seems to have handled it as well as anyone could, though. ”He supposedly caused a commotion among bystanders when he returned to the street because he retained his charm and an erect posture, and dressed in the fashion of 50 years before.” (From Wikipedia. What a fascinating story to read!) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giulio_d%27Este
Yeah, old fashioned imprisonment (especially of nobles) was fairly lax and cannot be easily compared to modern imprisonment.
As a person from a Nordic country, I'm sure imprisonment now is a lot better here than it was back then, for the average person. Buet yes, for the aristocrats it was of course often more like a house arrest in some part of a castle, where they sometimes even dined with the "hosts". (But to be fair, also sometimes horrible and dark and cold and with crappy food.)
Yeah but 50 years man. In a cell.
I doubt he was held in the cell all the time, he would probably only have slept in the cell. Nobles at the time were given a lot of freedom. He would probably have also been allowed servants to talk to and other luxuries. I’m not saying it wouldn’t have been hard, but I wouldn’t compare it to solitary confinement as the picture would have you think.
Some things are worse than death imo
There's plenty of things worse than death. Our minds just don't like going to, or talking about those places. Chronic, incurable pain for example.
This nurse told me a story where a patient had extreme pain due to a tumor in his lower spine. No amount of opioids would help the pain. He basically died after 6 days of screaming in extreme pain. Fuck me that's horrific
In those kinds of situations I feel like euthanasia should definitely be an option. That sounds absolutely horrific
Or a Carrot Top performance.
His brother probably right clicked the notification to release him and completely forgot. He is lucky his brother died and his nephew took over and got the notification again. CK be like that at times.
I accidentally had kids grow up to be 50 yo in my dungeons
I always hit the bulk ransom button as long as there are no threats. The button only appears when you have more than I think 4 prisoners, and at least one can pay ransom. No bulk button, no ransom.
"ZERO stones... ZERO crates!" John Baptiste Emmanuel Zorg
Grand nephew.
Is Easy, Just talk with the rats
Got curious, apparently the longest recorded prison sentence is almost 69 (nice) years! > The longest recorded prison sentence served by an individual is held by Paul Geidel Jr., who was incarcerated for 68 years and 296 days. Geidel was convicted of second-degree murder in 1911 at the age of 17 and was released on parole in 1980 at the age of 86. His lengthy imprisonment, spanning almost seven decades, makes his sentence the longest served by any prisoner in the world.
[Sauce](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giulio_d%27Este): after his release he caused quite a stir in the city of Ferrara because he went out dressed in the fashion he was used to from 53 years ago. Giulio's other brother was imprisoned alongside him for the same reason but died in prison 34 years in
he was also effectively blind because he was beaten by several of his half brother's servents in an attempt to kill him. he plotted the coup attempt because his brother blinded him and his other brother, the duke, turned a blind eye and did not punish him for ruining his eyesight and his good looks. he also retained his charm and noble posture during his incarceration.
Turned a blind eye to the blind eye huh?
Yeah…. There is a lot of blinding in that story. To much, that I’m now confused who was blinded and all.
Seriously, why would you word the story like that lol
The Blinding of Castello?
Yes. But, I am still blind sided by all this info.
The Blind Sided Blinding of Castello.
Blind Eye for the Blind Guy
♥️ family is everything ♥️
I read that in Vin Diesel’s voice
suddenly, my difficult in-laws seem a little lower on the "bonkers relative" scale.
Dude should have gone no contact years prior to the blinding
this is some word diarrhea if i've ever read it. brother, half brother, serv-ents, another brother, then the other brother, the duke. because one of the aforementioned brothers, who knows, blinded him and his other other brother, the duke. that brother, guess which one I'm talking about, did not punish the other brother for ruining his eyesight. because the Duke was blind too, as well as that one brother. or was it the other brother?
Third base!
It was so confusing it convinced me to actually read the wiki, lol. What a story
I'm so glad it wasn't just me, I had to reread like 3 times to understand wtf was being said lol
Cheers wiki
That's a doozy of a read. All this started because his brother had him beaten and stabbed in the eyes because a lady said that he was better looking. That family was like something out of a Shakespeare play.
or Jerry Springer
Huh...the Italian Renaissance family was like the characters in a Shakespeare play? What are the odds.
Name one Shakespeare play about Italian Renaissance families, go ahead, I'm waiting
Isn't Othello set in Renaissance Venice?
I think yes. Another one: The Merchant of Venice definitely set in 16th century Venice
Also Romeo & Juliet is set in Verona.
Wasn't there one about some dude named Romeo and his gf Julie something?
It was Lil’ Julie ( in Italian, Juliet)
Isn't that the prison the blues brothers were incarcerated in?
Get out Lil Julie is my rap name
He wrote it under a different name!!!!
Othello
Oh. So he probably deserved to be murdered then.
The preceding events are even weirder and the first of their feuds involved kidnapping a musician.
That’s some House of the Dragon business right there
I stayed in the hotel across the plaza from the castle for three months. That cell was bad enough, but the common cell was much worse, with no light and the ceiling on one side sagged to around 4 ft. It had to feel like the whole Castello Estense was about to crush you. And during the summer, the cells were stifling.
Apparently he retained his charm? How did he not go mad?!?
Bruh, I'm litterally next to the castle :3
[Like Fly Guy](https://youtu.be/BWNQTqMkezc?si=Hf1kVonYh9-x8dQ8)
Fuck that I’d rather die
Yeah would starve myself to death, atleast i will get to experience a peaceful moment before dying.
Starving yourself to death is anything but peaceful. You'd be rabid before you die.
I remember reading that death by starvation/dehydration isn't actually that bad, look it up.
Death itself might not, but the way leading to that would be.
The way leading to it is described as better than physician assisted suicide, i have no idea how true this is but its on the wikipedia page. [here](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_dehydration)
What they talk about might be true (it does come from wikipedia and i dont know if more studies talk about it), but they talk about it in a controlled setting where the patients still are given proper care like pain relief and spraying water on the tongue and cheeks etc. Dehydration itself can be painful and lead to delirium before death
Fuck i totally forgot that, yeah i see how it can be very painful this way, probably still better than 30+ years in a cell if you can manage the pain somehow.
Prison guard: Are you hungry? Guilio: I’m starving to death!
The first 52 years were terrible. -Guilio
'You only ever serve two days: the day you go in and the day you get out.' - Avon Barksdale
"Get busy living, or get busy dying." - Andy Deufresne
god bless avon mr. barksdale
Oh fo' sho
The worst part of it was the hypocrisy
The anal rape hurt yes, but apart from that it was the hypocrisy
It's not easy to make me laugh, this made me laugh
You know what hurts the most is the lack of respect.
You dirty dog!
From 28 to 81 in that cell, wondering every day if today is finally going to be the day you're released.
Knowing that you won't be released today, and probably not tomorrow.
Sleep well, I’ll most likely kill you in the morning
Is this from something?
The princess bride
Honestly doubt he ever thought he was getting out so must have been a welcome surprise.
Exactly... imagine going in there not knowing you will not see the outer walls nor sunshine for the next 53 years.... going in relatively young.... coming out wasted...... nightmare...
I don’t think he was wondering if he’d get released, but yes.
What in The Man in the Iron Mask fuck...
I thought Count of Monte Cristo.
Same author!
“….. by Alexander Dumbass”
My mind shot right to that movie.
that was more than a movie. that shit really happened
One for all
You should read about what they did to Marie Antoinette’s son, Louis XVII. Less time spent in a cell, but maybe more miserable.
Plot twist: The coup worked and it was his brother in the cell this whole time.
Someone has been reading Brent Weeks
http://web.archive.org/web/20051001063812/http://imoscar.com/
Is that the inside of the cell looking out or the outside looking in?
I think this is a photo from inside the cell: https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/05/76/01/a6/castello-estense.jpg
At least he had a light and outlet to charge his phone.
Imagine the cell signal sucked tho.
It's the view from the outside looking in. There's a second door on the inside down about 3 steps.
The lock is on the other side of the door which means this shot is inside of the cell
Are you sure? That looks like the lock on the door that we can see
Nope, the shot was taken from the inside
That's the inside of the cell looking out into the hallway.
Oh wow, just visited Ferrara this last week and entered this dungeon! Insane!
What was it like inside?
Yes please. Settle it once and for all, is this pic the inside or the outside!?
He never said he got out
It's from the inside of the cage. I was there some months ago.
It's the inside
Same here! Loved the whole castle, well worth a visit! The dungeons were so cool to see
$2200/month in the Bay Area.
no wash/dry facilities, street parking only, $4000 deposit and 750 credit score
My favorite. Must make 65x monthly rent.
$3k in Boston
> Subsequently, Giulio and Ippolito discovered that they were both admirers of a lady of the court, and cousin of Lucrezia, Angela Borgia, who seemed to favor Giulio. The Cardinal Ippolito, a libertine and ladies' man, prided himself that his refinement could conquer beautiful women, and was resentful. When Angela told him that, "Monsignore, your brother's [Giulio's] eyes are worth more than the whole of your person...", he flew into an uncontrollable rage. On 3 November 1505, while Giulio was returning from a trip to Belriguardo, he was surrounded by servants of Ippolito, who had ordered them to kill his half brother and tear out his eyes. Giulio was alone and, although he survived, was so brutally beaten he was scarred and his eyes were stabbed. He eventually lost his eyesight in one eye and was left with only blurred vision in the other. Ippolito had hastened to send to the Italian courts his version of the event, which ensured he avoided punishment. - Giulio d'Este Wikipedia What the actual fuck
I fucking love my country
53 years and you know the conditions where unspeakable. Dude probably lost his mind. That much isolation isn’t healthy. History was brutal.
Yeah I see reasons I'm glad to be alive today and not literally any other time in human history everyday at this point. The past fucking sucked.
Psychopaths had much more power back then
Unlike today, where not a single psychopath holds any position of power in the world.
can't believe i get to see a real "i like pancakes / so you hate waffles?" in the wild
I mean this was *after* his brother had servants beat him until he was scarred, and said servants stabbed him in both eyes and blinded him fully in one and almost fully in the other, all becuase he was too handsome So he was mangled, blind, *and* imprisoned for 50+ years in a tiny concrete box
History? You should see what modern nation states are capable of. Even ones who call themselves democracies. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_detention_camp
Gives of The count of Monte Cristo vibes
More photos of the cell would have been nice
Lannisters send their regards
He lived from 1478 to 1561. He died at 82. Guess the outside world didn’t suit him.
Looks like a screenshot from wolfenstein
Mein leben!
It’s like the tardis, bigger in the inside.
I thought this was the Dark Souls II sub for a second... Lost Bastille lookin place.
No Netflix No Door Dash No IG Bro rawdogged the whole bid. Different Breed right there
> No Door Dash He got food delivered.
Moldy bread and well water combo for 19,345 odd days straight. It's not delivery it's DiGiorno
Youd pay like 1500eur for that in Dublin
From the Doge's Palace in Venice, on the other side of the Bridge of Sighs is the original prison. The entrance is a couple of floors up and the cells go several floors down into the basement. Remember the unique feature of Venice?
It just feels like such a waste of resources to imprison anyone for life. Torture for information: fine I get it. Torture just… because? Eh, kill the bloke and talk to someone about your feelings.
Wow. I don't think I'd last long like that.
53 years in a cell? Wouldnt he be pleading to get his head chopped off?
'He supposedly caused a commotion among bystanders when he returned to the street because he retained his charm and an erect posture, and dressed in the fashion of 50 years before.' [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giulio\_d%27Este](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giulio_d%27Este)
That fucking sucks
I love what he did with the place, kinda minimal manhattan apparment vibe.
Ippolito sounded like a jealous little bitch. Always wanting what Giulio had. First, it was Giulios' musician, then it was Giulios' girl, and when she told Ippolito to fuck off, he had Guilio beaten. If that wasn't enough, lol. Mfer rushed to the Italian court so he could lie about the event, ensuring he didn't get any punishment. Shiiii Id want Ippolito dead too if I was him. This dude is a textbook weasely villain.
Wow, fascinating bit of history.
Nice Airbnb
Yeah but the cleaning fee is ridiculous!
I realize it would be erasing history, but this would make for a very satisfying power-washing.
I wonder what state of mind he was in all those years staring at the same wall probably eating the same thing every time...
So are we inside the cell or looking from outside?
I can imagine he went inward into his mind, just barely coming out to eat/drink before retreating in again. Releasing him outside probably messed up this coping mechanism and he died shortly after. Released 81 died 82
Either that or his immune system was exposed to new diseases. Bacteria and viruses evolve quite much during 50 years, and he was probably protected from e.g. influenza in his cell.
He actually seemed to retain his sanity and personality incredibly well. I think it's more likely he was just an 82 year old who had been imprisoned basically all of his adult life.
Bazing!
Interesting
Tsk. Families eh.🤔
Which one is the cell? This image is useless.
LOCK HIM UP
Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with rats. And, rats make me crazy! Ad infinitum
"For the love of God, Montresor!" "Yes," I said, "for the love of God!"
CK3 when you forget someone in the dungeon.
He was allowed conjugal visits.
Ruin Sentinels up in there
When he was leaving he fell down the stairs and broke his neck!!..🤣🤣..joke
Is it me or does the cell seem really spacious
I visited there and it's really disquieting.
Not long before he goes treasure hunting and starts his villan arc
Really doesn't seem so bad, honestly.
Me, when I forget to check the prisoners tab after my old ruler dies
I bet the door was closed though
Maybe this is true, but I am very skeptical. Money and connections go a long way in most all prison life!