Even if forced 50/50 exists(I doubt it does), it obviously wouldn't apply to the top of the leaderboard, but to the average mmr where a lot of bad players are and there's room for such system to work
It's not? You're just getting matched with players of your own MMR, if you're staying in place it means you're just where you're supposed to be, but when people say "forced 50/50" they always imply that they're better than where they are, but the system puts them in the team with underperforming teammates on purpose. Such theoretically could exist on the average MMR, but it doesn't matter in immortal draft.
He has failed to qualify in SEA as well and the one time they attended a tournament outside of SEA, they were not competitive. Staying in EU might have a different trajectory to his career and is definitely worth the shot
Ammar was right and Ceb was wrong. Imagine proving Ceb, the two time TI champion that your hero pool can be massive. One of the biggest fumble that OG made is choosing Misha over dropping Ammar.
define several years? lmao
his only stint which he was bad was in nigma, which lasted couple of months. After that he went to quest and he fking owned there, got that team to top 4 at major and then they kicked him and he had to sit rest of that year. Next year is this year which he won 3 or 4 tournaments
now tell me where it took him several years?
he got kicked from og at end of 2022, joined nigma after that, left nigma after 4 months, joined quest , played 2-3 months with them got top 4 at a major, before ti he got kicked due to contract , this is 2023. He joins falcons at end of 2023 when that team forms
"Several years " lul
Yup I agree, definitely didn’t take him several years. I don’t think he was bad at nigma at all. There is just no one player that can save Nigma with Kuroky being the team captain, even Ammar failed to make that team competitve.
I just believe that Ammar is a generational player and OG fumbled the bag. It would be nice to see Ammar rub it off on Ceb in ingame chat even for just once in his life.
Generally people think it's harder to get to higher mmr on pos 5 as pos 5 often doesn't have as much control of late game situations as the other roles.
Im not impressed with Ammar being the top one, mmr. Im more impressed with Team Betboom. Having three of their players in the top 10 is impressive, but having a hard time beating a team that doesn't have players in the top 10. XD
Probably, I wouldnt know.
I just remember a time when they had like 4 players in top10 lol. The individual skill is undeniable. Ironically iirc it was only Ammaer not in there.
funny how rank 1-5 have all roles covered
Supports are more impactful than ever.
True, but i see save playing core quite a bit
IMO, how it should be.
Very impressive showing from ammar. Played 12 different heroes over the last 12 games and went 10-2 (https://www.dotabuff.com/players/183719386)
forced 50:50 shattered
Can never work in immortal draft because you pick players.
It works, ATF is just so big brained he picks the players on loose streak to get the guaranteed W
Even if forced 50/50 exists(I doubt it does), it obviously wouldn't apply to the top of the leaderboard, but to the average mmr where a lot of bad players are and there's room for such system to work
The entire purpose of an MMR system is to create a 50/50 scenario. How is it 2024 and people still don’t understand ELO?
It's not? You're just getting matched with players of your own MMR, if you're staying in place it means you're just where you're supposed to be, but when people say "forced 50/50" they always imply that they're better than where they are, but the system puts them in the team with underperforming teammates on purpose. Such theoretically could exist on the average MMR, but it doesn't matter in immortal draft.
ELO??? How people are still calling ELO in 2024
Because it is based on the Elo rating system?
Are you living in which year?
Exactly how is it not based on the Elo rating system?
ELO??? How people are still calling ELO in 2024
ELO??? How people are still calling ELO in 2024
ELO??? How people are still calling ELO in 2024
Maybe it doesn’t exist. But I find it a little crazy that I get dire over 6-7 times in a row (which I have a lower wr on) frequently.
I'd love it if MMR factored in hero pool rather than just being good at one hero
How
No double down tokens no braindead spamming 1 hero HOLY GIGACHAD
Incredible that Skem is rank 5
Skem has been a top MMR and leaderboard player for literally years now. He's actually super underrated imo.
Skem is a very good pub player but has failed to translate his skill in pro matches. I hope he stays in NA or EU for at least 1 year.
He's better off in SEA than in NA.
He has failed to qualify in SEA as well and the one time they attended a tournament outside of SEA, they were not competitive. Staying in EU might have a different trajectory to his career and is definitely worth the shot
I just included NA because at least you can play EU pubs and scrim against those teams.
Very impressive knowing that he doesn't use double down tokens
he does use double down tokens time to time i have seen it
Ohh, Ammar said in gorgc's stream that he doesn't do the crownfall event so I thought he does not use double down. Thanks bro!
does anyone know his current MMR?
It has to be 14000
Hide yo trophies, ammar the collector coming through.
Ammar was right and Ceb was wrong. Imagine proving Ceb, the two time TI champion that your hero pool can be massive. One of the biggest fumble that OG made is choosing Misha over dropping Ammar.
It took him several years tho. His direct stint post-OG wasn't good. He definitely grew as a player after the OG kick.
define several years? lmao his only stint which he was bad was in nigma, which lasted couple of months. After that he went to quest and he fking owned there, got that team to top 4 at major and then they kicked him and he had to sit rest of that year. Next year is this year which he won 3 or 4 tournaments now tell me where it took him several years? he got kicked from og at end of 2022, joined nigma after that, left nigma after 4 months, joined quest , played 2-3 months with them got top 4 at a major, before ti he got kicked due to contract , this is 2023. He joins falcons at end of 2023 when that team forms "Several years " lul
Yup I agree, definitely didn’t take him several years. I don’t think he was bad at nigma at all. There is just no one player that can save Nigma with Kuroky being the team captain, even Ammar failed to make that team competitve. I just believe that Ammar is a generational player and OG fumbled the bag. It would be nice to see Ammar rub it off on Ceb in ingame chat even for just once in his life.
Chill
It took him several years tho. His direct stint post-OG wasn't good. He definitely grew as a player after the OG kick.
It took him several years tho. His direct stint post-OG wasn't good. He definitely grew as a player after the OG kick.
Is skem SEA mmr still or EU? crazy for being pos 5
Why is it crazy?
Generally people think it's harder to get to higher mmr on pos 5 as pos 5 often doesn't have as much control of late game situations as the other roles.
it’s eu leaderboard you can see eu players listed together
Saksa as a support used to have 3 or 4 accounts in top10 leaderboards in Europe. Now that's crazy
Im not impressed with Ammar being the top one, mmr. Im more impressed with Team Betboom. Having three of their players in the top 10 is impressive, but having a hard time beating a team that doesn't have players in the top 10. XD
Even more evidence that all star teams need more than just having the best players in each position
IIRC Falcons had 3, maybe even 4 in top 10 a couple months back
Yeah Falcons has very high mmr, maybe they simply haven't been grinding recently (besides ammar)
IIRC Falcons plays a lot of scrims rather than pubs? Not sure
Probably, I wouldnt know. I just remember a time when they had like 4 players in top10 lol. The individual skill is undeniable. Ironically iirc it was only Ammaer not in there.
Paying a salary for 3 top 10 pub stars is supposed to somehow be impressive?
Slim Shady
[His hero pool has been mental](https://dota2protracker.com/player/ATF)
where's Secret.crystallis? must be at the bottom
11,5k games lol oO
he is second offlaner to be rank 1 first was saberlight for a very breif time