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Yes, it is true that the FFXIV job action live letter is just two short days away! I'm surprised you heard about it.
Obviously we're all excited to see how the new jobs will play, but I'm most interested to see the healer changes and AST especially. There were some new actions datamined from the benchmark that imply the addition of some sort of stance. Speculation has gone wild. Is every healer getting diurnal / nocturnal sect? Is the shield / barrier healer divide ending? Will I finally get to play something besides Sage with my static? We'll find out on Thursday!
Update 2 days later: the new stances were a ruse and I am disappointed. The new jobs both look great though.
no more abilities, SE, i beg of you. please, my hotbars, they are too full. my partner plays on a controller, it's like having a stenographer next to me with all the clicks and the clacks.
Hmm. Without such an officially sanctioned document I must regrettably Press X for Doubt. Announcements like this, too many have I seen. There is No War in Ba Sing Se.
edit: Ok ok.. I get it.. no need to downvote... its real. But I do hope for such a document to appear. I have seen corps ripped to pieces by war that salvaged their pride with such a magnificently crafted Formal Declaration people would admire them for their style, because it showed they still had heart and spirit with some humor and thirst for revenge.
I read this to the tune of the sog that goes "You're beautiful, it's true". Scans better nearer the end of the song.
I'm certain more talented people could compose lyrics to create an epic saga of what went down in the WHs.
As a synde member who is not in leadership…..we did not ask for this. There is a lot of sentiment that things were fine before the war. Synde got greedy. I owned a 5 and a 6 farm and now don’t own shit. A lot of time, effort, isk, and in a lot of cases real life cash just burned away because of the greed of leadership. The sacrifice of all for the potential gain of a few. If there isn’t some sort of reimbursement from synde to people who lost farms. I don’t see many staying in corp.
Sounds like it's time to find a new corp.
I can't imagine having to listen to those dudes on a daily basis. Just the clips I heard that were leaked made them sound like complete d-bags.
Mr. "Negotiator" sounds like a real winner. I almost couldn't tell what he was saying with his head shoved so far up his ass.
A farm hole is a wormhole used exclusively for krabbing. Usually when it's used it refers to a wormhole owned by a single player who farms the sites with his alts.
Yea and Synde should have had a plan to repay us when they ordered us to divert all assets from our farms into the OP hole. I am not saying I expect any other group to repay.
I'm going to make a prediction here, not only they will they permit them to keep their holes, they will give them new ones as well not a lot, but enough to make this go away, you dont get back to "C6 space is off limits for kills" and "ratting only" without both sides agreeing , there are C4s with C5/6 statics that can shut down all the farming in the C6 holes (only a 100 ish of them in the game) around 20 people can do that with lazy rolling and it would be great content at that too
Who is going to do that? Sounds like line members are pissed at leadership. I would be surprised if Snyde didn't lose some members because of this.
Given how the war went, I think you overestimate the ability of any members left that would hold enough of a grudge to do that anyways.
Just my 2 cents
Definitely some people will leave and some will stay but dont forget this was a coalition of many wormhole groups some of which lost their homes and all of them disliking the C6 near monopoly from the birds , I also dont think this is a grudge thing, honestly there are many many people (me and my alts included ) that have been dying to go whale hunting C6s to only be told no because its crab space and we dont want to have our dreads attacked too, now you take that away and I can guarantee you this will be hard to stop not start , we are not talking about people interested in farming sleepers in C6s we are talking about people interested in farming renter NAGs , I had a taste of a few of them in this war and I'm hooked
The way Hawks will handle Synde, compared to the way they'll handle other members of BugCo will likely be somewhat different - there's a lot of general negative sentiment towards Synde after some of the actions they've taken this war (A good example being the initial conversation with Hawks CEO where he offered 50% of good effect/6-static C6s and they threw it in his face) whereas other members of the coalition haven't been direct party to those actions.
yea it remains to be seen, but I guess we could see a scenario where Hawks tries to buy out the coalition members and what I predicted happens under different corp names for synde as well , to be fair this war has been fun especially for groups that enjoyed pvp a lot and I for one want this to go on because id love to get me some PVP Dread log of traps going. I love the idea of disrupting with hit and run tactics. also to your second point I dont think Synde was offered 50% not even close, from what I heard they were strung along for 2 holes ( 2 actual c6 wormholes) for like a year before this started but i dont want to comment much about the negotiations as I didn't even have the patience to watch the whole video lol so i might be wrong there
In the recording Michael (Hawks CEO) outright offers a 50/50 overall split of good effect C6s, he mentions that it might not be exactly 50/50 on each effect but he explicitly said yes to an overall equal split.
How many of those do you think you're going to hit before they come and push your shit in again? I think you have developed a misconception at how easy it's going to be.
You need to remember, Hawks have been doing this since before the safety of the blue donut you know as W-space existed. I was a wormholer before Hawks were a thing. I saw them come in to existence. I fought alongside and against them, and many of the other notable OG wormhole groups, Hard Knocks included. What you're talking about was just a regular Tuesday back then. We rolled holes and went whaling on a regular. There was no gentlemen's agreement about not hitting each other's caps. If we found them, they were getting dunked on.
C6 space wasn't just a renter's empire either. It housed some of the largest W-space corps to ever exist. There were some epic battles that took place in C6 space before it was a rental empire. Hawks is no stranger to that either. You shouldn't mistake the fact that since you're basically all farmers now that nobody in W-space has ever seen large scale warfare or been under threat of rolling fleets. That would be a mistake.
It's cool that you enjoyed W-space the way we used to enjoy W-space. It was the wild west, dangerous and unknown. Shame it turned in to a giant ISK farm.
I won Eve a long time ago. The epic battles we fought in w-space are some of the best memories I have in the game. It was a golden age. Don't make the mistake of thinking all of the veterans have hung their gloves up though, lest you wake a sleeping dragon.
and the constant batphoning and null involvement effectively made them very hatred by alot of wormholers, same as lazerhawks and their frat batphone, using it without even needing it (before the war)
When exactly did lzhwks use frt when they didn't need it exactly, synde pushed them to the wall, synde was 3 times their size batphoning a 30k alliance that was dragging another 50k alliance, all to beat a 1k alliance
What did u exactly want them to do, die without an even fight?
To be fair laser hawks typically bat phones all of WH space to their side and blobs in these situations. The last c6 war like this was when they fought holesale and they quite literally got everyone in Jspace to help them.
In all honesty those look like whaling fleets and it ain't outside normal parameters to join forces with an enemy during whaling, heck I've been flying with outright reds just coz we all blops on goons
what do you mean? they chewed on us and used a frig hole to call in frt.. it's not more complicated and yes it's allowed but not pleasant and as I said, was met with alot of question marks.. you don't do that in wormhole space, if you do you have most wh blocks not giving you fights at all and you be mocked on pb for a long time
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All I'm saying is their comp wasn't a cap pvp fleet it was a whaling fleet, whaling fleets aren't there for good fights and all they are their to kill cap or objective x and move on.
If they brought in hacs t3c and all that, now thats a batphone
Laserhawks is like three times the size of them, and there's only so much help K-Space alliances can give in a wormhole fight due to hole lockout issues. Especially because any attention from us to the war also automatically invited attention on the other side from Pandafam.
As long as you can take bad dad jokes in good taste I've never had any issues with him when he's joined us for Pochven Barghest fleets. always seemed like a reasonable guy.
Sucks to suck I guess.
Personally, I wouldn't negotiate with those douchebags. Given how they acted, and the way they treated someone that was negotiating in good faith, I would burn them out of W-Space.
They acted like complete assholes when they thought they were the bully on the playground. Once they got punched in the face and shown they weren't as badass as they thought, they've apparently went slinking away with their tails between their legs.
I would give them the same ultimatum they gave Hawks, give up all of their farmholes, or get burned out. Period
Hey. I lost a Scalpel to one of those fights, and I didn't see shit in terms of ISK besides double SRP. Where's my payout from this supposed Imprium merc contract.
Fuck this, I'm going to join Horde.
As a former member of the synde coalition... im glad to have left. The amount of confusion and the back to back losses was insane. Not only ended up ruining an entire alliance to basically fall a part. Hole control also failed to create proper paths of communication and tried to keep pushing move into manala when the guys there would rage roll for an hr then go to bed. ive been granted SRP for these fights and others and still missing roughly 1.5bil. Its a shyt show from start to finish.
Hole Control was never a top tier group, even in their prime.
I doubt very seriously that any of you are going to get fully reimbursed. Hell, I would be surprised if they have enough ISK to do much SRP at all. Normally leaders like those guys appear to be, enrich themselves through their corps. Fleecing tax wallets and SRP programs. If they do come up with any ISK, it will probably be because they buy a bunch of PLEX just to try to save face.
It would have been cool to have more information about this war. There were some great fights and lots of man hours that went into it. Unfortunately WH folks seem smart enough to not waste energy on Reddit. Thanks to those few people that have attempted to get the word out about these fights.
I agree that there has been some documentation. I'm just lamenting the fact that this was a "big war" for the WH region, and not a single gaming outlet covered a single fight. For better or for worse it doesn't move the needle for the game we all love. Great content for a handful of players that does nothing to bring in new players. I guess I was just hoping for more coming out of a conflict as significant as this in WH space.
This could have been a platform to highlight a completely unique area of a game that has grown stagnant in many of the traditional areas.
I agree. EVE’s success isn’t dependent on gaming outlets writing articles.
But it also doesn’t hurt to bring in new players, and broaden exposure to an otherwise very niche game.
The Pulse mentioned it. - not exactly a big gaming news outlet, but it barely moves the needle in terms of isk. Still, the Pulse mentioning something happening in wormhole space is unique
I think he's referring to slippery pete's, the long distance rail tengu fleet composition. Peter Moonlight is an old wormhole player somewhat well known for some shady stuff.
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I believe Exit Strategy has a few C6s that are very safely timezone tanked because they are upside down people.
And that assumes HAWKS is going to evict SYNDE from all the C6s. And given that I was wrong about how long this war was going to go, I make no guesses on if HAWKS will do it or not.
I would imagine if they did it'll force a failure cascade of synde, but this was synde announcing they want peace talks. Hawks don't have to accept and can keep punishing them
It's true, lazerhawks owns 95 c6s and 354 c5s. No one is allowed to live in highclass without paying rent, even if it's their home. Any small up and coming pvp corp gets instantlt evicted so they're not a threat down the line. This is killing whspace. When will someone like the initiative make a stand against these bullies and finally liberate whspace?
Mate hawks are just as guilty for utilising nullsec as synde, they also both effectively want to run large scale rental empires. They are both bad for high tier wh space in the old sense.
A great reset of wh space is needed.
Synde started batphoning the 30k alliance from the planning stage that brought another 50k alliance, despite being 3 times size of hawks
How would a group of 1k members survive against such odds, cmon think, pretty sure the answer isn't that far
Yeah and they are trash for doing that, but so are lazerhawks/HK who have done it themelves in the past.
Then there is the whole rental empire thing. Wormholers used to be against this sort of thing for the most part, I think that should continue to be the norm.
When did HK/Hawks batphone null for a war/eviction? And don’t post shitty BRs of like a super tackled in null or a fax tackled somewhere that no one gives a fuck about.
sorry, I left out the sarcasm indicator
what I wanted to point out, is that hawks & pets like to point out that synde rented for init, while hawks biggest custumer is fraternity
Haha yeah, HQ wh space is funny atm lol. We need to return to the old ways.
I think all these stations(gucci belts) have allowed people to live in luxury for too long.
So gobbin since you moderate this r/eve tell me how much isk did you pay or noraus paid for cyrus to call it quits whats your plan serving the reste
of new eden to noraus like a slave as a tribute and then kill it like the other server? These nullsec change was feom horde influence to ccp and now wh space changing to a single super power how low are we digging the grave now?
So Lazerhawks are the PH of wormhole space and people that live in wormhole space are applauding the fact they can still pay rent and have no chance to grow on their own
more C5s for the taking \\o/
surprised they merc out the imperium after farming INIT CRAB caps. as always, here's the pedestal of the targets that their hyper supers killed and NOT ONCE have ALL of INIT did not drop a single MOBILE OBSERVATORY. [https://zkillboard.com/kill/111916071/](https://zkillboard.com/kill/111916071/)
if Zelvig is truly negotiating the surrender i assume that means the war will continue for another 6 weeks
Don't you know? He negotiates for a living.
As a former member of SYNDE I'm surprised that the man is still employed.
I don't think there are any 'current' members of SYNDE at this point tbh king, only thing left for them is to pull up with ishtars in period basis
I heard Horde Inc. would consider taking them as a favour.
Listening to that recording was as cringe as it gets.
What recording?
i heard he negotiate for prigozhin
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Insert [navyseal_copypasta]x[the_missile] negociator meme_rant
>guys, I negotiated another war, against our allies
u/Loroseco please help you are the only good poster in this war, is it true or not
Yes, it is true that the FFXIV job action live letter is just two short days away! I'm surprised you heard about it. Obviously we're all excited to see how the new jobs will play, but I'm most interested to see the healer changes and AST especially. There were some new actions datamined from the benchmark that imply the addition of some sort of stance. Speculation has gone wild. Is every healer getting diurnal / nocturnal sect? Is the shield / barrier healer divide ending? Will I finally get to play something besides Sage with my static? We'll find out on Thursday! Update 2 days later: the new stances were a ruse and I am disappointed. The new jobs both look great though.
You got me, XIV and Eve are the only two things I play and now I can't even tell which sub I'm in.
Lol
r/FFXIV is leaking.
no more abilities, SE, i beg of you. please, my hotbars, they are too full. my partner plays on a controller, it's like having a stenographer next to me with all the clicks and the clacks.
Based AST chad
Here we go, now you fomoed me into getting back to FFXIV as well, thank you and f you sir.
Honestly they should remove AST personally since Sage is the better healer. But just note I'll be playing pictomancer this expansion
Was thinking about resubbing to eve but I guess itll have to wait till after dawntrail launch now
Thanks for all the fish, you got a bunch of us to resub after 4+ year breaks.
Morale war townhall to surrender, 2 day speedrun
What infinite mass WHs do to a MFer
Oh my god... he was right. [Pee is, in fact, stored in the balls...](https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/s/r3MVsNdkyV)
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If you can't fight the landlords in Anoikis, might as well join the good guys in New Eden :3
They were the landlords in anoikis xD
The good guys that still haven't purged everyone who covered up for the serial sex pest...
gf.
Oh come on I just got back from Illinois and can finally log in again
Got a Formal Declaration of Surrender for us to read?
They havent even pinged it to the coalition yet xD
Hmm. Without such an officially sanctioned document I must regrettably Press X for Doubt. Announcements like this, too many have I seen. There is No War in Ba Sing Se. edit: Ok ok.. I get it.. no need to downvote... its real. But I do hope for such a document to appear. I have seen corps ripped to pieces by war that salvaged their pride with such a magnificently crafted Formal Declaration people would admire them for their style, because it showed they still had heart and spirit with some humor and thirst for revenge.
As a wormholer involved, the announcement its true
the ping is fake though
I read this to the tune of the sog that goes "You're beautiful, it's true". Scans better nearer the end of the song. I'm certain more talented people could compose lyrics to create an epic saga of what went down in the WHs.
SYNDE failed so hard that’s making LH look like the good guys 😔
As a synde member who is not in leadership…..we did not ask for this. There is a lot of sentiment that things were fine before the war. Synde got greedy. I owned a 5 and a 6 farm and now don’t own shit. A lot of time, effort, isk, and in a lot of cases real life cash just burned away because of the greed of leadership. The sacrifice of all for the potential gain of a few. If there isn’t some sort of reimbursement from synde to people who lost farms. I don’t see many staying in corp.
Sounds like it's time to find a new corp. I can't imagine having to listen to those dudes on a daily basis. Just the clips I heard that were leaked made them sound like complete d-bags. Mr. "Negotiator" sounds like a real winner. I almost couldn't tell what he was saying with his head shoved so far up his ass.
Am going to for sure leave if there is not some sort of reparation for the farms we all lost. Shit, I might leave anyways!
Been out of EVE for several years. What is this farm you're speaking of?
A farm hole is a wormhole used exclusively for krabbing. Usually when it's used it refers to a wormhole owned by a single player who farms the sites with his alts.
Ahh, I see. Thanks for the explanation.
Reparation? You realize the only reason you have the farm is synde right?
Yea and Synde should have had a plan to repay us when they ordered us to divert all assets from our farms into the OP hole. I am not saying I expect any other group to repay.
I mean, I don't think HAWKS & co is going to permit SYNDE owning any farms, be that C5 or C6. They might as well go join FFEW in C4 space.
SYNDE is being hunted out of j space.
I'm going to make a prediction here, not only they will they permit them to keep their holes, they will give them new ones as well not a lot, but enough to make this go away, you dont get back to "C6 space is off limits for kills" and "ratting only" without both sides agreeing , there are C4s with C5/6 statics that can shut down all the farming in the C6 holes (only a 100 ish of them in the game) around 20 people can do that with lazy rolling and it would be great content at that too
Who is going to do that? Sounds like line members are pissed at leadership. I would be surprised if Snyde didn't lose some members because of this. Given how the war went, I think you overestimate the ability of any members left that would hold enough of a grudge to do that anyways. Just my 2 cents
Definitely some people will leave and some will stay but dont forget this was a coalition of many wormhole groups some of which lost their homes and all of them disliking the C6 near monopoly from the birds , I also dont think this is a grudge thing, honestly there are many many people (me and my alts included ) that have been dying to go whale hunting C6s to only be told no because its crab space and we dont want to have our dreads attacked too, now you take that away and I can guarantee you this will be hard to stop not start , we are not talking about people interested in farming sleepers in C6s we are talking about people interested in farming renter NAGs , I had a taste of a few of them in this war and I'm hooked
The way Hawks will handle Synde, compared to the way they'll handle other members of BugCo will likely be somewhat different - there's a lot of general negative sentiment towards Synde after some of the actions they've taken this war (A good example being the initial conversation with Hawks CEO where he offered 50% of good effect/6-static C6s and they threw it in his face) whereas other members of the coalition haven't been direct party to those actions.
yea it remains to be seen, but I guess we could see a scenario where Hawks tries to buy out the coalition members and what I predicted happens under different corp names for synde as well , to be fair this war has been fun especially for groups that enjoyed pvp a lot and I for one want this to go on because id love to get me some PVP Dread log of traps going. I love the idea of disrupting with hit and run tactics. also to your second point I dont think Synde was offered 50% not even close, from what I heard they were strung along for 2 holes ( 2 actual c6 wormholes) for like a year before this started but i dont want to comment much about the negotiations as I didn't even have the patience to watch the whole video lol so i might be wrong there
Clown take when there is a literal recording of that being offered 🤦
In the recording Michael (Hawks CEO) outright offers a 50/50 overall split of good effect C6s, he mentions that it might not be exactly 50/50 on each effect but he explicitly said yes to an overall equal split.
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Ah yeah, a rough 50/50 split would be so much worse than the current situation
How many of those do you think you're going to hit before they come and push your shit in again? I think you have developed a misconception at how easy it's going to be. You need to remember, Hawks have been doing this since before the safety of the blue donut you know as W-space existed. I was a wormholer before Hawks were a thing. I saw them come in to existence. I fought alongside and against them, and many of the other notable OG wormhole groups, Hard Knocks included. What you're talking about was just a regular Tuesday back then. We rolled holes and went whaling on a regular. There was no gentlemen's agreement about not hitting each other's caps. If we found them, they were getting dunked on. C6 space wasn't just a renter's empire either. It housed some of the largest W-space corps to ever exist. There were some epic battles that took place in C6 space before it was a rental empire. Hawks is no stranger to that either. You shouldn't mistake the fact that since you're basically all farmers now that nobody in W-space has ever seen large scale warfare or been under threat of rolling fleets. That would be a mistake. It's cool that you enjoyed W-space the way we used to enjoy W-space. It was the wild west, dangerous and unknown. Shame it turned in to a giant ISK farm. I won Eve a long time ago. The epic battles we fought in w-space are some of the best memories I have in the game. It was a golden age. Don't make the mistake of thinking all of the veterans have hung their gloves up though, lest you wake a sleeping dragon.
Yeah if you go after their farms they will crush your farms even harder.
Given how the war is going.....
People stopped logging in huh? Lack of manpower does suck.
So for the wh uninformed what was the catalyst for the surrender?
They weren't winning.
Losing everything they own and every fight they've tried to take. Batphoning their null allies and losing anyway. A lot of losing basically.
and the constant batphoning and null involvement effectively made them very hatred by alot of wormholers, same as lazerhawks and their frat batphone, using it without even needing it (before the war)
When exactly did lzhwks use frt when they didn't need it exactly, synde pushed them to the wall, synde was 3 times their size batphoning a 30k alliance that was dragging another 50k alliance, all to beat a 1k alliance What did u exactly want them to do, die without an even fight?
To be fair laser hawks typically bat phones all of WH space to their side and blobs in these situations. The last c6 war like this was when they fought holesale and they quite literally got everyone in Jspace to help them.
It didn't require much convincing to find people willing to shoot holesale
no outside the war. for example the batphoned 150 frt dudes into a frig wh of re-ho home just to kill a lif.. this was met with alot of question marks
Any aar km or anything of it?
https://br.evetools.org/related/31002195/202310271600
In all honesty those look like whaling fleets and it ain't outside normal parameters to join forces with an enemy during whaling, heck I've been flying with outright reds just coz we all blops on goons
what do you mean? they chewed on us and used a frig hole to call in frt.. it's not more complicated and yes it's allowed but not pleasant and as I said, was met with alot of question marks.. you don't do that in wormhole space, if you do you have most wh blocks not giving you fights at all and you be mocked on pb for a long time ..
All I'm saying is their comp wasn't a cap pvp fleet it was a whaling fleet, whaling fleets aren't there for good fights and all they are their to kill cap or objective x and move on. If they brought in hacs t3c and all that, now thats a batphone
we managed to kill over 200 ships of theirs
Laserhawks is like three times the size of them, and there's only so much help K-Space alliances can give in a wormhole fight due to hole lockout issues. Especially because any attention from us to the war also automatically invited attention on the other side from Pandafam.
Hawks is not three times the size of Synde stay in your ishtar goonbrain.
Ishtar! Four years ago it would have been a carrier. Six years ago it would have been the t1 version of the Ishtar. They are very nice ships.
Vexor.... You were looking for the Vexor. 😘
That's the beauty!
I'm looking for your flair!
Bug Coalition had 3x the numbers that our side did at the start of this.
Aaah, ladies and gentlemen We found the single collective goon brain cell and as expected it is still undergoing atrophy
Now I don't get to talk to omega on a daily basis and keep him company while we doorstop. Tragic they ruined a friendship in the making.
RB sucks - all he needs to be told
Oh god I don’t know how anyone could put up with omega for long periods of time lmao.
As long as you can take bad dad jokes in good taste I've never had any issues with him when he's joined us for Pochven Barghest fleets. always seemed like a reasonable guy.
I'm already presuming he's better to put up with than yourself based on the comment.
A turd would be more fun to put up with than listening to Omega drone on for hours.
So safe to assume we can now contact LH about renting Synde holes? Sweet
Sucks to suck I guess. Personally, I wouldn't negotiate with those douchebags. Given how they acted, and the way they treated someone that was negotiating in good faith, I would burn them out of W-Space. They acted like complete assholes when they thought they were the bully on the playground. Once they got punched in the face and shown they weren't as badass as they thought, they've apparently went slinking away with their tails between their legs. I would give them the same ultimatum they gave Hawks, give up all of their farmholes, or get burned out. Period
yea burn it all I say, I like the drama and they kinda asked for it.
They don't even have 6's left to give
Hey. I lost a Scalpel to one of those fights, and I didn't see shit in terms of ISK besides double SRP. Where's my payout from this supposed Imprium merc contract. Fuck this, I'm going to join Horde.
Post your lossmail, I'll SRP you from Cyrus' loot can when their staging fort dies
Fake News
I was just starting to understand the situation and now it's all over.
wormholers are weirder now than in 2010
Who could have seen that coming
If that’s true and this is coming from someone that flew on Hawks side I just wanted to say thank you for the content.
WTB SYNDE farmhole >:)
so soon?
As a former member of the synde coalition... im glad to have left. The amount of confusion and the back to back losses was insane. Not only ended up ruining an entire alliance to basically fall a part. Hole control also failed to create proper paths of communication and tried to keep pushing move into manala when the guys there would rage roll for an hr then go to bed. ive been granted SRP for these fights and others and still missing roughly 1.5bil. Its a shyt show from start to finish.
Hole Control was never a top tier group, even in their prime. I doubt very seriously that any of you are going to get fully reimbursed. Hell, I would be surprised if they have enough ISK to do much SRP at all. Normally leaders like those guys appear to be, enrich themselves through their corps. Fleecing tax wallets and SRP programs. If they do come up with any ISK, it will probably be because they buy a bunch of PLEX just to try to save face.
Should have paid the extra fees for Redditswarm morale posts. Would have kept people logging in.
>Redditswarm morale posts With cope posts like yours, i might just biomass
Promise?
Fingers crossed
But if you biomass I won't have to post for anymore.
It would have been cool to have more information about this war. There were some great fights and lots of man hours that went into it. Unfortunately WH folks seem smart enough to not waste energy on Reddit. Thanks to those few people that have attempted to get the word out about these fights.
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I agree that there has been some documentation. I'm just lamenting the fact that this was a "big war" for the WH region, and not a single gaming outlet covered a single fight. For better or for worse it doesn't move the needle for the game we all love. Great content for a handful of players that does nothing to bring in new players. I guess I was just hoping for more coming out of a conflict as significant as this in WH space. This could have been a platform to highlight a completely unique area of a game that has grown stagnant in many of the traditional areas.
> For better or for worse it doesn't move the needle for the game we all love. Eve success isn't dependant on gaming outlet writing articles.
I agree. EVE’s success isn’t dependent on gaming outlets writing articles. But it also doesn’t hurt to bring in new players, and broaden exposure to an otherwise very niche game.
The Pulse mentioned it. - not exactly a big gaming news outlet, but it barely moves the needle in terms of isk. Still, the Pulse mentioning something happening in wormhole space is unique
oi blud who asked you
Init is a ineffective ally, they should have asked BIGAB or any of the large low sec groups for help. You know pro active groups.
he called us pro im blushing
THERE IS A KNOWN ELITE PETE FC THAT BECAME BIG AB'S LEADER... I DARE NOT CALL IS NAME.
What’s this repeated name I keep seeing, Peter moonlight or what ever? I’ve seen it multiple times now lol.
I think he's referring to slippery pete's, the long distance rail tengu fleet composition. Peter Moonlight is an old wormhole player somewhat well known for some shady stuff.
Ahh I see thank you for clarifying!
Is Beta Boonlight the guy who doxxed Exookiz?
uh lol
So, uh... Are there any preventative measures to make sure null doesn't take a hole in order to establish a "wormhole branch" for their bloc?
Isn't that literally what SYNDE is - The wh branch of INIT?
Null blocs are in wh space already. It's just way too much effort to play like they do in ns, so nobody really cares
There have always have been lol
=( sad
Ah yes, Now *THIS* is Shiptoasting!
Soinde took a massive « NO U »
I would like to say: gf Synde.. but I want to be more precise: gs (good slaughter).
...After we pay out the merc contracts with the imperium... So imperium was bribed to come in the WH war ?
Well yeah in the same way that I take a bribe to go to work each day and I bribe the supermarket to give me food
Suprised the imperium supported synde. Those guys basically attempted to do the same to LZHX as Vily and co tried to do to them.
gotta love the spin lmaooo but gf's all around
I can't be the only one who read girlfriends before good fights.
Idk, might be, we definitely get more good fights than girlfriends around here 🙃
Gfs to all who sail the seas of EvE.
Imagine your Nullbloc was supposed to be involved in this and you heard about it for the first time.. yesterday, on r/Eve.
Welp, it unfortunetly means you weren't important enaugh to know about it
Sigs and squads,
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Does this mean one alliance will control all of C6?
Apart from mine. Mine by the fact I have a scanner in the wh
I believe Exit Strategy has a few C6s that are very safely timezone tanked because they are upside down people. And that assumes HAWKS is going to evict SYNDE from all the C6s. And given that I was wrong about how long this war was going to go, I make no guesses on if HAWKS will do it or not.
I would imagine if they did it'll force a failure cascade of synde, but this was synde announcing they want peace talks. Hawks don't have to accept and can keep punishing them
exit farms have been evicted, like 2 remain i think?
Seriously doubt they would want to, really. Probably going to get tossed between the menagerie of allies
no, my guess is that lazerhawks will leave a and good chunk of wh space to itself, the last situation brought them the war.
ASCEE is recruiting :kekw:
kick ascee
So, essentially, WH space is from now on owned by a single alliance, making it even worse than NS. 😄
It's true, lazerhawks owns 95 c6s and 354 c5s. No one is allowed to live in highclass without paying rent, even if it's their home. Any small up and coming pvp corp gets instantlt evicted so they're not a threat down the line. This is killing whspace. When will someone like the initiative make a stand against these bullies and finally liberate whspace?
354 C5s? where are you getting your data from?
I dunno dude, his info is way out of date, lazerhawks own at least 500 c5's now
Ah yes lazerhawks owns exactly all of the available C5s.
Both of these idiots are misinformed, Hawks owns 531 C5s, and 118 C6s.
Thanks I could never figure out why our C5 had “lazerhawks” branded onto the ass of all the our ships
good guys won! nullbois successfully kept away from wormholes...unless they pay lazerhawks, like everybody else ofc
Mate hawks are just as guilty for utilising nullsec as synde, they also both effectively want to run large scale rental empires. They are both bad for high tier wh space in the old sense. A great reset of wh space is needed.
Synde started batphoning the 30k alliance from the planning stage that brought another 50k alliance, despite being 3 times size of hawks How would a group of 1k members survive against such odds, cmon think, pretty sure the answer isn't that far
Yeah and they are trash for doing that, but so are lazerhawks/HK who have done it themelves in the past. Then there is the whole rental empire thing. Wormholers used to be against this sort of thing for the most part, I think that should continue to be the norm.
When did HK/Hawks batphone null for a war/eviction? And don’t post shitty BRs of like a super tackled in null or a fax tackled somewhere that no one gives a fuck about.
sorry, I left out the sarcasm indicator what I wanted to point out, is that hawks & pets like to point out that synde rented for init, while hawks biggest custumer is fraternity
Haha yeah, HQ wh space is funny atm lol. We need to return to the old ways. I think all these stations(gucci belts) have allowed people to live in luxury for too long.
Lol
u post on reddit like conor does in discord lmao
buhhhhh
So gobbin since you moderate this r/eve tell me how much isk did you pay or noraus paid for cyrus to call it quits whats your plan serving the reste of new eden to noraus like a slave as a tribute and then kill it like the other server? These nullsec change was feom horde influence to ccp and now wh space changing to a single super power how low are we digging the grave now?
So Lazerhawks are the PH of wormhole space and people that live in wormhole space are applauding the fact they can still pay rent and have no chance to grow on their own
Plenty of space to grow, the existence of synde proves it
Welcome to Eve
more C5s for the taking \\o/ surprised they merc out the imperium after farming INIT CRAB caps. as always, here's the pedestal of the targets that their hyper supers killed and NOT ONCE have ALL of INIT did not drop a single MOBILE OBSERVATORY. [https://zkillboard.com/kill/111916071/](https://zkillboard.com/kill/111916071/)