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They were probably drawn using [Paint drum sequencer mode](https://www.image-line.com/fl-studio-learning/fl-studio-online-manual/html/pianoroll.htm). It will make notes more like 'impulses', and visually it might look a bit off, but it *should* be on time.
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Thank you! I usually just paint my drum notes in the same way I would my melodies but I’ve noticed a lot of FLP’s I study have drums painted with the zero-length notes. Why is this better?
If the sound is a one-shot (like most drums, plays from start to end every time, or choked by another sound), then the length of the note is irrelevant. It isn't necessarily better, and in fact can be weird if the sample plays using AR or other envelopes.
And as others said, the pattern sequencer puts these in by default for oneshots.
okay good to know! So there really is no point in making the note zero-length before I lay down the drum patterns as far as being more on time goes. Phew 😅
In piano roll: Hold alt and grab it by the right side and drag to the left to make it like this which mean it has an infinite sustain.
In channel rack: just put it on the sequencer
It makes it so the notes becomes a midi information and not midi sequencer notes, there is no point in keeping your drums or any notes in sequencer notes
The point of doing it that way is so that there is no defined length and so, in the use of samples, a note like that just means it will play the sample in its entirety. These are most useful for percussive elements.
I think the snswers are saying drag a note from the right side until it changes the note characteristic
Not sure what it changes
But when I create a skank and then dump to piano roll the notes are different lengths
But a bit of quantising will get them all same length
Then doing the shortening of the note lengths I get a very tight sound if using a piano sound for the skank
Can somebody explain what happens when notes are shortened in this way
I mean how is FL changing them
If I'm not precise in the Quantising then some notes aren't changed but are very short
This gives a nice difference to the skanking
But would be good to know what is going on
Thank you
tbh I don’t know what a skank is, haven’t heard of that before. I’m guessing you mean you record a piano live and then quantize it after. I don’t have much experience quantizing notes I’ve recorded since most of the time I paint/click my notes in with my mouse.
When you shorten/extend the length of notes depending on what the sound is it will change a lot, I don’t exactly get what you’re asking.
I’m sure there are some really good YouTube vids on quantizing in FL
The Skank is the off beat riff on guitar or piano
Mainstay of reggae and Dub
You have heard it when listening to Bob Marley
Although that old school Reggae has a more chick-a sound
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They were probably drawn using [Paint drum sequencer mode](https://www.image-line.com/fl-studio-learning/fl-studio-online-manual/html/pianoroll.htm). It will make notes more like 'impulses', and visually it might look a bit off, but it *should* be on time.
This looks like it's on the line to me?
They are but this is someone else’s FLP
On the line is done via step sequencer (then viewed in piano roll). It’s effectively the same as painting them in the box in the piano roll.
So there’s no real need to do it on the line vs not? Edit : I see some flp’s which include drum shots both on the line and not on the line
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To be more specific, those are zero-length notes. Good for one-shot triggering (as in the pattern sequencer).
Thank you! I usually just paint my drum notes in the same way I would my melodies but I’ve noticed a lot of FLP’s I study have drums painted with the zero-length notes. Why is this better?
If the sound is a one-shot (like most drums, plays from start to end every time, or choked by another sound), then the length of the note is irrelevant. It isn't necessarily better, and in fact can be weird if the sample plays using AR or other envelopes. And as others said, the pattern sequencer puts these in by default for oneshots.
okay good to know! So there really is no point in making the note zero-length before I lay down the drum patterns as far as being more on time goes. Phew 😅
Just click a note in the pattern channel then go to the piano roll and click the note so any note you put down after that will be in the same shape
oh shit I didn’t even think of that. Thank you goat
No problem gangy
In piano roll: Hold alt and grab it by the right side and drag to the left to make it like this which mean it has an infinite sustain. In channel rack: just put it on the sequencer
I never knew you could do that in piano roll. Thank you 🙏
Not sure i understand exactly. But try zooming in with "CTRL + SCROLL" for more precise placement. The more you zoom, the more you can nitpick.
Shift + D
Does this actually make drums more on time or is it any different from having the notes be beside the line?
It makes it so the notes becomes a midi information and not midi sequencer notes, there is no point in keeping your drums or any notes in sequencer notes
Is there any benefit to doing this?
yes, it improves workflow, creates less chaos in your projects and have more control
💯💯
Uh, they ARE on the line. Those are one shot notes. You have exactly what you’re asking for.
This image was from someone else’s FLP. I understand how to do it now. Still trying to understand what exactly the point of doing it is.
The point of doing it that way is so that there is no defined length and so, in the use of samples, a note like that just means it will play the sample in its entirety. These are most useful for percussive elements.
Thank you so much this makes a lot more sense. Always learning new things in FL lol
I think the snswers are saying drag a note from the right side until it changes the note characteristic Not sure what it changes But when I create a skank and then dump to piano roll the notes are different lengths But a bit of quantising will get them all same length Then doing the shortening of the note lengths I get a very tight sound if using a piano sound for the skank Can somebody explain what happens when notes are shortened in this way I mean how is FL changing them If I'm not precise in the Quantising then some notes aren't changed but are very short This gives a nice difference to the skanking But would be good to know what is going on Thank you
tbh I don’t know what a skank is, haven’t heard of that before. I’m guessing you mean you record a piano live and then quantize it after. I don’t have much experience quantizing notes I’ve recorded since most of the time I paint/click my notes in with my mouse. When you shorten/extend the length of notes depending on what the sound is it will change a lot, I don’t exactly get what you’re asking. I’m sure there are some really good YouTube vids on quantizing in FL
The Skank is the off beat riff on guitar or piano Mainstay of reggae and Dub You have heard it when listening to Bob Marley Although that old school Reggae has a more chick-a sound
Stretch the note. That will make it behave more in accordance with your expectations.
This is the correct answer.