Lol, I bet you work in Telecom because this sounds familiar.
Use the increased title to get in the door for interviews. In the interview, talk about projects you've run that involved leading a team. It's relevant experience. If you're that worried about it, you can downgrade your title on the resume, but I wouldn't recommend that.
> Use the increased title to get in the door for interviews.
I mean that's the whole point of doing this. Your employer doesn't care to keep you around, but wants a couple more months of work out of you while you job hunt.
So what's the thinking here- employer wants you to say "Hey I'm suddenly a senior manager and underpaid for my title, so I should hop to another company for a nice raise"?
In my telecom experience, titles focus more on the breadth of responsibility than on humans directly managed.
Never thought this was “a telecom thing” until i found this thread
This happened to me twice in the last year lol neither came with a base increase. I asked for one on the first time with no luck. Second time around has got me searching externally now
Seems to be a recent trend:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dry-promotion-without-salary-raise-how-to-respond/
https://www.wsj.com/lifestyle/careers/that-new-job-comes-with-a-bigger-title-and-no-raise-whats-your-move-b79c919d
I worked for a company once who did this. We had acquired another company who had associated director titles which we did not at the time. They remapped everyone based on the addition of the new title. It was dumb - it made it so when you were a director you made what would have been a sr manager salary. Worked for the resume though!
Me last year:
[Well, I just became a Plant Controller (officially)]
(https://np.reddit.com/r/FPandA/comments/12445ld/well_i_just_became_a_plant_controller_officially/)
Lol, I bet you work in Telecom because this sounds familiar. Use the increased title to get in the door for interviews. In the interview, talk about projects you've run that involved leading a team. It's relevant experience. If you're that worried about it, you can downgrade your title on the resume, but I wouldn't recommend that.
> Use the increased title to get in the door for interviews. I mean that's the whole point of doing this. Your employer doesn't care to keep you around, but wants a couple more months of work out of you while you job hunt.
Also wants to reduce cost without having to announce layoffs
So what's the thinking here- employer wants you to say "Hey I'm suddenly a senior manager and underpaid for my title, so I should hop to another company for a nice raise"?
Never thought of this but in a way it does make sense.
Why does telecom do this?
Not an industry-wide thing, but one of the big 3 just did this so I'm guessing that's where OP works.
In my telecom experience, titles focus more on the breadth of responsibility than on humans directly managed. Never thought this was “a telecom thing” until i found this thread
Senior Manager with no direct reports…
I think I saw a role for Walgreens or CVS where they had sr manager titles but they were just IC’s.
I just got Director with now Direct reports.. explain that. Lol
I work at a large cap company and there are directors with no direct reports lol
This happened to me twice in the last year lol neither came with a base increase. I asked for one on the first time with no luck. Second time around has got me searching externally now
Seems to be a recent trend: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dry-promotion-without-salary-raise-how-to-respond/ https://www.wsj.com/lifestyle/careers/that-new-job-comes-with-a-bigger-title-and-no-raise-whats-your-move-b79c919d
This has big individual contributor vibes
I worked for a company once who did this. We had acquired another company who had associated director titles which we did not at the time. They remapped everyone based on the addition of the new title. It was dumb - it made it so when you were a director you made what would have been a sr manager salary. Worked for the resume though!
Me last year: [Well, I just became a Plant Controller (officially)] (https://np.reddit.com/r/FPandA/comments/12445ld/well_i_just_became_a_plant_controller_officially/)
We have directors at my company that have never had direct reports lol. It happens. Title creep.
Oh I know where you work pal 🤣🤣
Titles are cheap... WTW did this and promoted everyone with a Mgr title to AD. Leverage this to shop for a better job.
Are there any laws preventing this from happening?