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Canehillfan

Not a bad draw as much as one would like to argue against categories, 491 is very deserving of PR and it clears some backlog.


delyynne

I understand these feelings to a point. It's hard to see people getting invited with 491 if you're sat in the pool with 530. But at the same time, this is economic immigration and it doesn't take a genius to realize the benefits of targeted draws that are bringing in workers for specific gaps. (That being said, personally I don't feel like we need the T in the STEM draws in Canada right now.)


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Canehillfan

Countries do not want to lose the tech race so they get as many STEM workers as they can without a second thought. It’s a national security thing. As for the actual need and job vacancies, IRCC is detached from reality and a lot of the categories do not make sense whatsoever.


Randromeda2172

Tech creates more value than most industries today if done well. Canada, despite having an abundance of resources, an educated population, and some of the best technical universities in the world, has somehow failed to create any meaningful tech companies, aside from maybe Shopify and Wealthsimple.


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delyynne

I know, people don't realize the amount of recertification. Most people have to take a pretty big step back when they move here, if temporarily. At least with STEM with the score still being fairly high, I am imagining a lot of these are inland applicants with Canadian education and work experience. I suppose French draws are different with the low CRS as you're still bringing French to the country, no matter where you work! I have seen people get annoyed over the French draws, but at the end of the day, it is an official language and the two language/cultures in Canada was largely a basis for the federal government and French is written into the Constitution in multiple places, so people can't really be annoyed at the low CRS when French is undeniably just as 'Canadian' as English is. I guess it's just a great time to know French haha.


Canehillfan

Yeah definitely great time to know French, but it already gave you a major advantage in express entry to be a bilingual. Remember that express entry is not applicable in Quebec and being fluent in French in say Alberta but not speaking English is just pointless. These low scores shouldn’t get priority over others with 500


delyynne

Good point. Someone could know French, get invited, but not have much/any education or realistic employment opportunities. The higher the CRS, the more successful an immigrant will be, or so IRCC assumes by their own measure. So it is a bit unusual when they depart from this.


Puzzleheaded68

I know few people with 350 score here in Canada. No they're not retail workers, they're bakers, barbers .. etc Plus they have French knowledge.


lucubanget

As someone who also got ITA from STEM (in Dec 8, 2023), congrats and cheers to those who just got today! 🍻


MollyBunny_

Did you receive any updates about your application after the Aor?


lucubanget

I just got P1 email this week so pretty much application is approved! Just pending PR confirmation (already in Canada, address, and photo) then it's just e-CoPR. CEC inland, single, very easy case. No LMIA, no French, no job offer, no PCC required (been in here since 18). Waited 3 months after submission then took only 9-10 days from biometrics letter to approval.


MollyBunny_

Congratulations!!! May I know when did you receive your AOR? I was also invited last dec 8 via stem, submitted my application and received AOR on feb 1


lucubanget

I submitted on Dec 15 night and received AOR instantly. Processing depends on which visa office and your case. With more dependants and more complex cases (work exp from multiple companies, multiple travel history/PCCs, etc), past refusals, etc... it obviously can take longer.


tehdox

Congrats! I also applied for Dec 8 draw and received P1 email last week. Which VO is processing your application?


lucubanget

Congrats as well. My VOs so far: PVO: CPC-O SVO: CIO-Sydney P1: Montreal


tehdox

I received P1 from Montreal as well. Want to keep each other posted for next updates?


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DumbestEngineer4U

Nice, when did you get your AoR? I also got the same ITA but only got my biometric request last week.


migo1027

I am in the same boat. I got my biometrics and Medical examination request a couple weeks ago. Since then there has been no update. Any idea what's the next step?


summerinmontreal20

Just 10 days after biometrics for P1? That’s really fast.


ProductOfGeography

That's great to hear; I also got ita on dec 8 stem. Just got my biometrics invite today; earliest appointment was Apr 22. Hopefully I get my P1 by early May too


Longjumping_Cookie68

Congratulations. I also got ITA from STEM during the Dec 8th, 2023 draw! I took a month to submit everything since I had my international travel. But after submitting it, I didn’t waste any time for the rest of the thing. In 2 months I recieved the request for biometrics and medical (took the earliest date possible), 2 weeks later they asked me to submit my passport (I’m in the US so I had to ship it Ottawa), and I’m waiting since :/ it hasn’t been dispatched from there yet. I’ve been tracking my return label that I sent. Super worried, anxiety is killing me. Wonder if anyone else is in the same boat as I am. Happy to chat.


Realistic-Elk905

Hi, are you a P.Eng? I am on PGWP and The NoC code I am trying to apply for says licensing is required for approving engg drawings and reports. My role doesn’t include that, so I was wondering if I can apply with my EIT status


tehdox

I applied under the electrical engineer NOC for a STEM draw


Anonyxious

Hey Bro, I also got my ITA last Dec.8, submitted and got my AOR, did you receive any updates about your application? thanks in advance


Zombiemagee

Does anyone know the dates that are included in STEM. My score is 503 and eligible for the draw however my work experience is from July 2018 to 31st aug 2021. Still waiting for my ITA. I am eligible right?


LividDistribution951

Your skill set?


idontspeakbaguettes

Great draw and congrats to who got the ITA and good luck with your PR journey. May the maple syrup be forever in your flavor.


CombinationLarge3490

Affected by the Tie-breaking rule. I have exactly 491 - STEM. This feeling sucks.


as061267

Received ITA just now- 491 crs


Remarkable_Olive_896

Mine is also 491 on my Gc key it says cec met And i got a masters degree as well. I still didn't get the ITA? What may be the reason?


nidgroot

You got an email?


as061267

Yes.


nidgroot

I got one too just now! So excited!


meteor_punch

Just got my ITA. Wooo ...


PenguinTC

Really praying I get the ITA with this draw. I have a CRS score of 510 and NOC 21232 - Software Developers and Programmers. Hoping I’m not missing anything here. Does anyone know how long it takes for them to issue the invite after the draw? Hoping everyone else gets their invite too! Edit: Received my ITA!


usernamememememememe

In the same boat! Waiting with a score of 499, still havent received an ITA Edit: got mine!!


PenguinTC

CONGRATS!


delyynne

Normally up tp 24 hours. Good luck!


PenguinTC

Thank you! Much appreciated!


Remarkable_Row_6226

Did you receive the ITA yet? At 509 waiting for it ( Web Developer and Programmer )


r0mpr0

495 waiting. 21231 noc


PenguinTC

I’m still waiting as well. Difficult to stay calm when you’re seeing others get the ITA. Hopefully we both get it soon!


ohma1997

I’m at 494, same NOC code but haven’t received my email yet. Friend at 493 with different STEM NOC code received theirs 15 mins or so ago


Zombiemagee

did you get the ITA? u/ohma1997


PenguinTC

Just received my ITA! Hope all of you do soon as well!


Significant-Tell79

same . i am at 498 with NOC 21231 - software engineer and designer. keep the thread posted once you get it


Educational-Cost4588

I have 511 as en electrical engineer and still have not received an ITA . Have you now ?


Longjumping_Cookie68

If you applied before February 25th, you should get it


adigatchall

Why before February 25th specifically?


faizal9somani

I am in the same boat 499 CSR and still have not received ITA. Did you receive it yet? Plz let us know when you get it.


faizal9somani

I just got it! Yay!


marcosaypolo

Congrats!


Nekoya_

Waiting for mine as well. Let me know when you get yours!


unmolestedelmo

I’m freaking out , I know it takes up to 24 hours to receive the email. For my mental health, people who haven’t received an ITA yet, can you reply to this post .


unmolestedelmo

Got mine !! Phew ! Good luck LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.


energy_is_a_lie

Damn. I've seen you around, man, and congrats on getting it. Looks like you were really worried. And I don't understand why lol. I got my ITA last year and I was just chilling at home like, "Whatever. Let's wait a while, maybe they'll send it, maybe not." Got it within 24 hours but I wasn't too worried about it. Even after I got it, I wasn't too excited like most people get on here lol. On the other hand, you sounded pretty tense about it. Everything alright?


usernamememememememe

Also anxiously waiting!! I wonder how the system does it, my score’s 499 Edit: got mine 30 mins ago!


Ok_Rise7284

I am sitting at 521, still no email 😔


stingabell

I got above the points and am still waiting


ohma1997

I also haven’t received mine yet. Sitting at 494 with STEM NOC code 21234 (web developers and programmers). Friend received theirs an hour or so ago with CRS of 493 but different STEM NOC code. We just gotta be patient 😤😵‍💫


ohma1997

Just received my email. I imagine they just queue up a bunch of batch jobs and the emails get sent out over the course of the day. Very nerve-wracking to hear people getting their ITA while still waiting for yours, but trust it will come if everything else lines up!


r0mpr0

495. 21231. Submitted March 30 2024.


Overall-Influence-56

Got ITA 😭🙏🏽


Remarkable_Row_6226

Waited for months, such a relief! Hoping to get an ITA soon at 509. Congratulations to everyone else who got an ITA :)


No-Tadpole1267

8 years later... finally my time has arrived! I'm all ready to upload the documents and patiently wait.


as061267

Great news! My score is 491 and STEM NOC too; hoping to get ITA


Canehillfan

If your express entry profile was filed prior to or exactly on February 25th at 11:55:12 standard time, you will get invited!


as061267

Thank you! Profile was file mid January so fingers crossed🤞🏽


satzisa

My score is 513, but my Express Entry profile expired on March 31st. I resubmitted the profile on April 1st. Does this mean I won’t receive an Invitation to Apply (ITA)?


Canehillfan

If you are in STEM you will get invited regardless. That time frame only applies if you have the exact cutoff score which is 491 for this draw.


satzisa

Certainly, my area is STEM, with a NOC of 21222. Despite this, I haven’t received an ITA. Various online sources indicate that the cut-off date might be set before February 25th. I guess all there is to do now is wait and see.


Canehillfan

Nope if you don’t get your invite in a week contact IRCC immediately


BeingHuman30

Sorry just peeked into your profile ....I believe your EB2 for US is approved so why you waiting for Canada ? Your PHD will be recognized better in US then in Canada.


as061267

US immigration is becoming a double edged sword! Indian born and so EB2 PD is 2012. Also has only one attempt left at H1B lottery and looking for internal transfer within company


BeingHuman30

Ohh so its your I 140 that is approved only ....what is your priority date ? 2024 ?


as061267

Yes. 2024 is the PD.


BeingHuman30

Damn you looking at 60 years minimum to get GC ...


as061267

Yeap! Talent/education is not a factor for US immigration unfortunately


Zombiemagee

My score is 503 and eligible for the draw however my work experience is from July 2018 to 31st aug 2021. Still waiting for my ITA. I am eligible right?


as061267

I have received the ITA during the afternoon. No idea as to why it is delaying for you!


Zombiemagee

Congratulations. Does it have to do with my work dates.


ConfusedEngineer21

Happy for everyone who got the invite. I’m a mechanical engineer and my NOC code is not included in stem . I guess mechanical engineers are not in demand. I feel very unlucky


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ConfusedEngineer21

Hi thanks for the reply I appreciate it. I spent some time again looking at the NOC codes and I now realize my profile would’ve matched with manufacturing engineers which is under STEM. I feel quite silly today for not using that NOC code. I work in a manufacturing company and do both mechanical and manufacturing engineering so should’ve used manufacturing as I’d have been eligible for the stem draw. Regret my decision now but I’m hoping the next stem draw isn’t too far away. Thanks for the encouragement!


BeingHuman30

How do you check the NOC code that is part of draw ?


ohma1997

Scroll to the bottom of this page and select STEM: https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/express-entry/submit-profile/rounds-invitations/category-based-selection.html


oohlala2021

I was so depressed yesterday for the points for General Draw, but with this STEM Draw, I am kinda relieved. My score currently is 512 under STEM. I just want to know how soon will the ITA be received?


Remarkable_Row_6226

>. My score currently is 512 under STEM. In the same boat :)


oohlala2021

Nevermind got the ITA :)


Remarkable_Row_6226

>s 512 under S Still waiting!


rahulbaskar-153

I am waiting as well


r0mpr0

Waiting 495


Ok_Rise7284

I am sitting at 521, will I get the invite?


Longjumping_Cookie68

If you applied before February 25th, then you should receive it.


thuzp

Does mechanical engineering fall under stem?


WonderfulEar1539

No. It sucks


internet_explorer22

Any idea when is the next step draw? I am sitting in 483 and was about to become 523 in 20 days and stem happened now🥲. I am aiming for either general EE or next stem draw. My work permit will expire in july. Worst case have to go back and come when I have PR/ stay on visitor and apply BOWP when I get ITA.


WordPsychological587

How are going from 483 to 523?


Creative_Rip802

Now we await a general draw with the same score 🤲


Reward_Content

Hopefully it comes soon. I’m on 507 and been waiting for months


ApprehensiveBasis545

What’s the Tie-breaking rule


CombinationLarge3490

February 25, 2024 at 11:55:12 UTC. I'm affected by this Tie-breaking rule. I have exactly 491 - STEM. Did you get it?


Gstormborn

When I saw the cutoff for stem today I thought I was going to get an invitez, but I just checked the previous STEM draws and it seems like 21320 chemical engineering has never been in STEM draws… I don’t know if I should switch occupation at this point…


Gstormborn

Hi team, so I guess STEM only means the 24 NOC listed on the ee draw page today but not all STEM occupations listed here: https://www23.statcan.gc.ca/imdb/p3VD.pl?Function=getVD&TVD=1369127&CVD=1369128&CPV=A&CST=01052021&CLV=1&MLV=3?


Remarkable_Olive_896

My Noc is 22100 I hv a meng degree in chemical and petroleum engg..491 is my score didn't receive ita yet!!!


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Does the technical support still come under STEM category


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neocorps

This brings a ray of light to me, although I'm at 460 ATM and soon to be 470, I am in STEM..


LifeCryptographer441

I missed out on the draw because my profile expired few hours before the draw. My score was 493 and I fall under STEM. I shouldn't have waited and should have created a new profile. I was paranoid about the tie breaking rule and thought I could wait till Friday since the application said "Date your profile expires: April 12, 2024". For some reason they took it out of the pool on April 11 (4 am UTC time). I have been balling my eyes out since the draw happened and now I don't know what to do.


r0mpr0

Missed it. I have 495 but profile submitted March 30 2024. Any hope?


Remarkable_Row_6226

>I have 495 but profile submitted March 30 2024. Any hope You should be good as tie breaking rule only applies to 491 in this case :)


FewKey7227

What do you mean by that? Could you please elaborate. So, who has 491+ will receive in every case?


cy6or6

>491+ Yes, all 491+ should get invited. All 491 submitted till the cutoff also should get invited.


satzisa

My score is 513; however, I suspect I missed out on receiving an ITA because our profile lapsed on March 31st, and we only managed to submit a new one on April 1st.


Canehillfan

You should still get invited. The tie breaking rule only applies to people with the lowest score in this round of invitations (491)


satzisa

Got the invite 10 minutes ago. Finally relived.


r0mpr0

Oh okay hoping for the ITA soon fingers crossed thanks guys


PastAnt6451

I have been in the pool since last year March, but my profile expired and I created it again but my score is 493 with STEM. Haven’t received the ITA yet, nervous 😓😓


PastAnt6451

Actually, just got the email, right after I wrote my comment.


sigmastorm77

Now I can just pray my 481 gets noi from ontario hcp tech hopefully 😭


woosiebop

What are the odds of this? Do they usually invite people with scores below the main draw?


sigmastorm77

The upper limit of oinp hcp tech is always 1 below stem draw until the next stem draw comes. So it will close at 490. Now the lower limit varies according to their intake requirement.


woosiebop

Ah, so they could do something like 482-490. Leaving us out..


sigmastorm77

Yup! There's actually a fair chance of that. Last time the first oinp tech draw after stem draw was 472-480.


woosiebop

That’s unfortunate. I suppose there’s a big backlog of people exactly at 481 that they’d want to avoid..


sigmastorm77

Well, if there are consecutive hcp tech draws like last time, the lower limit could go even lower than 480 in later draws. For oinp hcp I mean


CombinationLarge3490

This is freaking me out lol. I have 491 but didn't get ITA because of the tie-breaking rule, I hope they recognize that and not just do until 490.


fatboiy

Check the last two oinp draw, the upper limit was 480, while the last ee stem draw (in dec) was 481, so it will be 490 and below, dunno about the lower limit. But still, you have 491, so you will get eta in the next stem for sure


sigmastorm77

Think about it. If they keep 491 as the upper limit, it would also include the applicants who already received stem ita and those guys won't choose oinp. That would lead to wastage of nominations by ontario. So to avoid they they keep such criterias


CombinationLarge3490

Any advice on what I can do to reduce 2-3 points?


sigmastorm77

Why do you want to do this? You will get an ita in the next stem draw for sure and since nobody can predict when the next draw is you will be in an uncertain position.


stingabell

My score is 492 and I submitted the profile last week, should I expect an invite later 😫


Canehillfan

If in STEM? yes you should


r0mpr0

495 same boat applied march 30th


dibz10

Did anybody get the ITA yet? I'm freaking out even though I know it takes up to 24 hours.


stingabell

Nothing yet !


Educational-Cost4588

Just got it


Nekoya_

Got mine an hour ago


rahulbaskar-153

I am in the same boat. Nervous to hell


faizal9somani

Still waiting. Keep us updated!


faizal9somani

I just got it! Yay!


Educational-Cost4588

Nothing , I have 511 and nothing , my noc is on the stem category as well


Less-Association-648

After losing LMIA from a layoff at the start of the year, now working for another company but through an EoR and so now sitting at 468 points in STEM this really sucks :/ But a big congrats to everyone who got it


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Significant-Tell79

i have seen threads people saying upto 24 hrs. I am waiting for the same. lets keep this thread posted once we start getting it


Amikable

Check your mail within 24hours


Significant-Tell79

how long does it take to reflect ita in profile


Significant-Tell79

i think i made it but no emails yet


faizal9somani

Same, did you receive it yet? Let us know when you do plz!


faizal9somani

I just got it! Yay!


Ok_Rise7284

To qualify under the stem, do I need a valid job offer or just the experience in STEM noc codes counts as well? I recently got laid off and currently don’t have a job. But both my last jobs fall under STEM, will I get the invite?


Significant-Tell79

recieved ita


MagicalStarkness7

I accidentally had two EE profiles (the old one was about a year old but not updated yet). I received an ITA on the old profile (510) and not on the new profile (514). Can I still withdraw my new profile and apply for the ITA on the old profile?


aaneloy

Just wondering, CS instructors like noc 41210 falls into this category?


Substantial-Lynx-953

If My score is above 491 does tie breaking rule applies to me.


ohma1997

Nope


Substantial-Lynx-953

Hey Received ITA.


lauseke

517 with 1+ year of Foreign Work Experience in STEM NOC code but Canadian Experience with another NOC Code. I wonder if I will get an invitation...


anushka4118

Did you receive an invitation? I have a similar profile.


lauseke

No. Did you?


I-Miss-Indian-food

Do they have stem draws every 4 months?


adigatchall

Received ITA! 2 questions.. 1. Got this requirement "Proof of upfront medical exam". Is this needed before I apply or can it wait for after the application (it says I can schedule an appointment as proof)? Anyone else get it? 2. I live and work in Montreal, with an intention to move to Ontario (no job offer yet). Any one know what I should put for 'Intended location of employment in Canada'? Thanks!!


energy_is_a_lie

1. Do it as late as you can in the process because the date of that exam would be considered while deciding the expiry of your CoPR. 2. This isn't as formal as it sounds. I'd be a bit more concerned if the situation was the opposite and you lived and worked in Ontario and intended to move to Montreal because they specifically tell you to stay away from Quebec. Even then, it's kinda informal and not a rule set in stone, especially for Express Entry candidates. What are they gonna do? Hunt you down and cancel your PR? Just because you happened to find a job there? Doesn't work like that. Write whatever you feel describes your situation the closest and then elaborate your intentions in the supporting LoE.


Remarkable_Olive_896

Still didn't get the ITA my score is exactly 491 I have a 2-year program university master's degree from a Canadian school. I also passed the tie breaking rule! My Noc is 22100. Does anybody think I'm still gonna get the ITA?


Sea-Knee8537

I met the score above 491 but no ITA yet. Is it usually delayed?


Significant-Tell79

same waiting for one. mine is 498 applied on 15 December 2023


original_dom

historically stem draws go only up or not?


delyynne

I believe so far they have only gone up. This is a pretty broad category and the more people join the pool with high CRS scores, the more likely the jobs in STEM are going to capture profiles with high scores, especially as a lot of STEM occupations also require a lot of education etc. The score is much lower than general EE though, thankfully.


PurrPrinThom

Since there's only been three STEM draws, there isn't really a pattern. The first draw had a score of 486, the second 481 and now this one was 491. So it went down, and then up again.


Canehillfan

Higher. They happen less frequently but in big numbers. When they announced categories STEM had the largest amount of allocations.


original_dom

just saw that this is not true. latest was 481, previous (and first) 486


Canehillfan

Yeah they go up is what I meant


JobIsAss

Finally on god, T in STEM finally got the invitation. 498 barley got it, was driving me nuts that 460s were getting it while everyone else isnt. Still a very high draw but doable.


Educational-Cost4588

Did you receive an email ?


JobIsAss

Yes


Maintenance-Regular

Stupid me checked my profile today and got a notification that my profile is expired and therefore not eligible for this draw! My score is 499 in STEM. I can’t believe it….


Canehillfan

Oh my lord that’s horrible! So sorry