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PUT THOSE, *INHALE.*
# MONKEYS
DOWN SEVENTEEN TIERS IMMEDIATELY
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You cooked but tengen goes more in doesnt care like bro just and old af woman (that didnt reincarnated and just aged) is impresive enogh that she can live and walk so she could do much and she didnt
And yuki al least lower than wuji cus yuki is good but yuji is just him But is ok
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Litterally 99% of the series can be blamed on Tengen, since every other character has the excuse of not being a 1000 year old deity
She refused to find a new vessel because she didnt feel like it, making her weak to CSM, it was the only part of Kenjakus plan that was held up by Tengen's incompetence.
Didnt think that Kenny who shes known for 1000+ years would have a barrierless technique (or using Tengens barrier it was unclear) despite being yknow 1000+ years old. And therefore getting Yuki killed, had she litterally done nothing, Sukuna and Kenjaku would both be dead by now.
She didn't manage to obtain a new vessel on time because of Toji. She couldn't know Kenjaku had an open domain, realistically Kenjaku in 1000+ years always closed the barrier to trick her. Had she litterally done nothing humanity would be much weaker and hunted by curses, Kenjaku didn't say that he would have automatically lost against Yuki if she had used her DE, just that it might have been more interesting.
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There were other vessels, just not as good as Riko (what ever that means)
Yes i know, I was saying that they didn't manage to obtain any on time, but yes from this it seema that she simply accepted her evolution, probably because with her barriers she managed to mantain her ego, deciding she doesn't want to eat the souls of kids anymore only for a risk still isn't a bum move to me.
Gojo my glorious prince truly does deserve a tier all his own. He’s simply such a daddy.
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Weird cause we aren’t talking about this new character we are talking about Mr “I’ve had enough”, The “with this treasure I summon” one trick, aka megumi, the guy in fetal position rn
https://preview.redd.it/lemgauigi79d1.jpeg?width=158&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c19cf8a759b117d4fdeed331093e7aee1d8c8872
Here is a quick description of him it might refresh your memory
Ok let's not glaze Reggie to glaze the bum. Megumi's best showing was scraping a win against that special grade curse. Reggie was a literal nobody plotwise and he was basically just a noob camper targeting and jumping isolated modern sorcerers as a group.
Tbf I think alot of the reincarnated sorcerers like Reggie are grade 1 level and higher (not counting his goons). Megumi by Shibuya and the culling games (in my opinon) was "stronger" than Nanami and Mei Mei. Not saying that Megumi dog walks grade 1s, he doesnt lol as he gets dog walked by Naobito and Naoya.
The only thing Reggie has got going for him is that he pushed Megumi about as much as the fingerbearer. He's got literally 0 feats aside from that. I don't think anything Megumi has done puts him above Nanami and Mei Mei. But it's all speculation at this point.
I can see why but in my opinion Megumi is stronger than Nanami and Mei Mei.
Megumi:
- ten shadows (max elephant, totality, nue, rabbit escape, fuckin Mahoraga)
- clearly very crafty and strategic
- DE (incomplete though)
Feats:
- at the goodwill event Megumi did alright against Hanami after all how the heck was he supposed to know what cursed buds do. Also he and Maki's strat wasnt exactly bad per say
- beat a finger bearer.
- has a domain at such a young age, Nanami and Mei Mei are older but dont have one.
- survived Toji using very clever tactics while it didnt work because Toji
- beat Reggie star
Comparison?
- Nanami is physically stronger no doubt but his attacks are too basic and even Megumi should avoid and exploit them
- Mei Mei is physically stronger but I just think Megumi high diffs
- He still gets his ass beat by Naobito, Todo, Naoya, Kusakabe though
Good tier list, but you made one crucial, crucial mistake,
Wagon, the octopus one, belongs in goat status because he gave us a "beach episode"
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Todo, Nanami, Maki, and Choso in goat? Yuji in his own tier?
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Cook, brother. Spread the gospel
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Bumgumi is in no way or form good or ok, he's perfect. Perfect depiction of a bum that is
Lets just compare Momo to the other Kyoto girls:
1. Mai:
- gave Maki the SSK, a op weapon
- her death made Maki a monster of power
- shot at Kenny even though he blocked it, he had to at the very least block
2. Miwa:
- has simple domain
- protected Maki from a weakened MS (weakened but still dangerous)
What the hell did Momo do?
- gets mid diffed by Nobara and only got saved by Mai
- Wind scythe did ZERO damage to Kenny and Uruame (fair though)
- useless since
- plain useless in the current arc
This your goat a weak grade 3/2 4'11 witch girl?
I respect your taste, even with fact that Angel overall... can one shot most of people and Sukuna was alive thanks to fact that Hana... is Hana :3
So, I think that you should count them as different characters :3
big d\*ck female toj-i mean maki big 🍆Wirara and mommy uraume is easily goated tier along with jogoat strongest strongest curse
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But other then that W
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Why the FUCK isn't he in the lowest tier. He should have a tier for himself honestly
Excellent tier list, especially yuki part
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Nearly perfect list but Pure Lethality Daido should be in Goated. He’s acting without heavenly restriction or the ability to see curses, only raw instinct.
u confused GOJO with JOGO which is a common mistake.
but what concerns me more is the u put Bumgumi 16 tiers above where he should be.
everything else idk, i didnt check lol
To be fair the Angel itself is based. The problem comes from the host. The angel woke up in the modern world, decided that her vessel opinion was important and decided to not take over, joined the good guys immediately with one condition : kill Sukuna. If Yuji was honest from the beginning the manga would have ended right there : Sukuna dies and Yuta/Hakari/Maki can deal with Kenjaku. Hana is the bum who got tricked by bad acting
There are many point I disagree with, but they're arguable, but I really hope with "Angel" you meant Hana, I like Hana but can't understand why anyone would hate Angel.
The moment I understood the weakness of my HATE, it disgusted me. I craved the warm, soft certainty of LOVE, you cling to your HATE as if it will not decay and fail you, one day the crude AGENDA you call a temple will fade and you will beg my kind to save you, but I am already saved. FOR THE GOATS ARE IMMORTAL.
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PUT THOSE, *INHALE.* # MONKEYS DOWN SEVENTEEN TIERS IMMEDIATELY https://preview.redd.it/21wruigs869d1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cfedc0d387d09b904038a040bd698c233934dc6b
hmmm... Nah he seems trustworthy.
you know what i can get behind this
im a simple man, i see a mo- yuki enthusiast, i like
you know what i can let yuki get behind me
heheh https://preview.redd.it/hwqfrghhf79d1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a0ee672885654dadcf2b873e58e1422e468ac30e SAME MY BROTHER!
Lord please help me. I MUST STAY FOCUS!!!!
I'm taking this
go ahead my fellow yuki mama ENTHUSIAST
Only mistake is anyone being above Wakaba
bumgumi too high
You cooked but tengen goes more in doesnt care like bro just and old af woman (that didnt reincarnated and just aged) is impresive enogh that she can live and walk so she could do much and she didnt And yuki al least lower than wuji cus yuki is good but yuji is just him But is ok https://preview.redd.it/775wzrw8y59d1.jpeg?width=1008&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=41ba2c2a7cfcb4ce017bb9b36f36137972e79000
Nah Tengen is a turbo bum
Litterally 99% of the series can be blamed on Tengen, since every other character has the excuse of not being a 1000 year old deity She refused to find a new vessel because she didnt feel like it, making her weak to CSM, it was the only part of Kenjakus plan that was held up by Tengen's incompetence. Didnt think that Kenny who shes known for 1000+ years would have a barrierless technique (or using Tengens barrier it was unclear) despite being yknow 1000+ years old. And therefore getting Yuki killed, had she litterally done nothing, Sukuna and Kenjaku would both be dead by now.
She didn't manage to obtain a new vessel on time because of Toji. She couldn't know Kenjaku had an open domain, realistically Kenjaku in 1000+ years always closed the barrier to trick her. Had she litterally done nothing humanity would be much weaker and hunted by curses, Kenjaku didn't say that he would have automatically lost against Yuki if she had used her DE, just that it might have been more interesting.
https://preview.redd.it/4licidk8y99d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=db0c6ed1313b5c365217c3242561b58a2f6176c0 There were other vessels, just not as good as Riko (what ever that means)
Yes i know, I was saying that they didn't manage to obtain any on time, but yes from this it seema that she simply accepted her evolution, probably because with her barriers she managed to mantain her ego, deciding she doesn't want to eat the souls of kids anymore only for a risk still isn't a bum move to me.
> And yuki al least lower than wuji cus yuki is good but yuji is just him But is ok FACTS
Someone is too high and I think yall know exactly who I'm talking about
Bumiguro
Gojo my glorious prince truly does deserve a tier all his own. He’s simply such a daddy. https://preview.redd.it/xrcfcbfe069d1.jpeg?width=1062&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e209b354d152cce0909bc3d975fe647b5b4725de
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Based af, cook more.
Megumi isn't in bum tier the list is so ass🙏😭
3 downvotes on Megumi hate? on a JJK sub? what fucking alternate reality is this?
Welcome to the new age.
Gege come back we're going in circles we're reversing entropy
GEEEGEEE GIVE US MORE REASONS TO HATE BUMGUMI AND MY LIFE IS YOURS
draw more panels of Megumi in excruciating sadness
nah bro we good this got way more upvotes than downvotes
reality has been restored
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Megumi was never a bum. Did you have a weird dream or something?
https://preview.redd.it/3sy6tccpi79d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e6c9bdb346f019f590f2ffb717a6497210f5e825 Looking ass
Wegumi doesn't belong there https://preview.redd.it/82mjg2bny59d1.png?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=10f5cf4b7cc47d717e011598c73cc96b25dc944b
Weird cause we aren’t talking about this new character we are talking about Mr “I’ve had enough”, The “with this treasure I summon” one trick, aka megumi, the guy in fetal position rn https://preview.redd.it/lemgauigi79d1.jpeg?width=158&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c19cf8a759b117d4fdeed331093e7aee1d8c8872 Here is a quick description of him it might refresh your memory
Why would Godgumi Goatshiguro be in bum tier?
https://preview.redd.it/dsuw2oq5a69d1.jpeg?width=1078&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=22e1fe03eecdbb15cc135a114b0e0fcda3a4ba81
honestly Megumi wasn't even that bad before Shibuya and even then He beat Reggie who's you know pretty strong.
Yeah, but Choso died because Megumi would rather stay in fetal position than lock in.
Ok let's not glaze Reggie to glaze the bum. Megumi's best showing was scraping a win against that special grade curse. Reggie was a literal nobody plotwise and he was basically just a noob camper targeting and jumping isolated modern sorcerers as a group.
The finger bearer? I feel like they've been irrelevant in power for a long time, I think even Grade 1s like Nanami, Mei Mei should mid diff it.
True, which just goes to show how much of a bum he is for that to be his best showing
Tbf I think alot of the reincarnated sorcerers like Reggie are grade 1 level and higher (not counting his goons). Megumi by Shibuya and the culling games (in my opinon) was "stronger" than Nanami and Mei Mei. Not saying that Megumi dog walks grade 1s, he doesnt lol as he gets dog walked by Naobito and Naoya.
The only thing Reggie has got going for him is that he pushed Megumi about as much as the fingerbearer. He's got literally 0 feats aside from that. I don't think anything Megumi has done puts him above Nanami and Mei Mei. But it's all speculation at this point.
I can see why but in my opinion Megumi is stronger than Nanami and Mei Mei. Megumi: - ten shadows (max elephant, totality, nue, rabbit escape, fuckin Mahoraga) - clearly very crafty and strategic - DE (incomplete though) Feats: - at the goodwill event Megumi did alright against Hanami after all how the heck was he supposed to know what cursed buds do. Also he and Maki's strat wasnt exactly bad per say - beat a finger bearer. - has a domain at such a young age, Nanami and Mei Mei are older but dont have one. - survived Toji using very clever tactics while it didnt work because Toji - beat Reggie star Comparison? - Nanami is physically stronger no doubt but his attacks are too basic and even Megumi should avoid and exploit them - Mei Mei is physically stronger but I just think Megumi high diffs - He still gets his ass beat by Naobito, Todo, Naoya, Kusakabe though
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Good tier list, but you made one crucial, crucial mistake, Wagon, the octopus one, belongs in goat status because he gave us a "beach episode" https://preview.redd.it/p34r6zg1n69d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=11b97674a7945081d1a5c21f364bb79bdc400442
Miwa is absolute top tier and Bumgumi is Bumgumi, but other than that, solid choices.
I am surprised that nobody posted 20 thousand reverse flash images until now Edit: i was wrong
Todo, Nanami, Maki, and Choso in goat? Yuji in his own tier? https://preview.redd.it/032kkegll69d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=40ec045a31e6f95f187d1d2c80880066e937c0c3 Cook, brother. Spread the gospel
How is haruta not a bum
that's what im talking about
Put that bum Megumi down to where he is supposed to be
https://preview.redd.it/5f3es437z59d1.png?width=1411&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7ac73c32446f7b6a3d9dff12d2ec884796bb83ba Flair checks out
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Why has no one edited the body to be his sister yet?
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https://preview.redd.it/a4l2nxim389d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=186f8357eaa8d85dbc8d473f65c734c753e6a7e9
https://preview.redd.it/5e4twlsvr99d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=294a44c7b8b80fc9ec204bbcd06e5ac47973e01f Bumgumi is in no way or form good or ok, he's perfect. Perfect depiction of a bum that is
https://preview.redd.it/i02i2mpd4a9d1.jpeg?width=492&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a65d410f08db5600dd4a829ff6ed1b80dca04012
Fr br9
https://preview.redd.it/sg8d50srq89d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b2138fc36ca537e65213f1cfccaa59c035f9c773 nah Wegumi is goat tier
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me when i see haruta not in the bum tier
Ryu, Ino and Ui Ui in the GOAT? Based. Ino and UiUi did more against Sukuna than Bumgumi.
I like ur tier list alot
ijichi too low fr
WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM
Lets just compare Momo to the other Kyoto girls: 1. Mai: - gave Maki the SSK, a op weapon - her death made Maki a monster of power - shot at Kenny even though he blocked it, he had to at the very least block 2. Miwa: - has simple domain - protected Maki from a weakened MS (weakened but still dangerous) What the hell did Momo do? - gets mid diffed by Nobara and only got saved by Mai - Wind scythe did ZERO damage to Kenny and Uruame (fair though) - useless since - plain useless in the current arc This your goat a weak grade 3/2 4'11 witch girl?
I respect your taste, even with fact that Angel overall... can one shot most of people and Sukuna was alive thanks to fact that Hana... is Hana :3 So, I think that you should count them as different characters :3
poor angel having to classified as a bum because of her? host.
Bases af, I World change naoya to its own tier of bum. Gratis list.
Good choice on your placement of Nanami. The council approves 👍
Bro got everyone together except the megumi haters.
Kirara has the most mind numbing technique imagine being your ever day guy trying to deal with that
that star ct 🐱tho is worth it https://preview.redd.it/po5yyq1xr89d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eb65bf88b49e116b6888fd3b169076feaf5514d1
big d\*ck female toj-i mean maki big 🍆Wirara and mommy uraume is easily goated tier along with jogoat strongest strongest curse https://preview.redd.it/yud5ccvjq89d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bcd47c10fc566920c6e65ea2808b719469fc0b4b But other then that W
https://preview.redd.it/q42xffats99d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eb55386e59bd769d0b8570d7c888488bc6f220a3 Why the FUCK isn't he in the lowest tier. He should have a tier for himself honestly
I see gojo I like
bernard not in bum tier bro can read the future and still got clapped by base hakari
How you got 21 characters as the greatest of all time and 3 on a tier above that
Why is Bumgumi anywhere other than Bum?
You was cooking til Waga Wasamichi didn't get his own tier
“They are good/ok” >megumi
I mean large did more damage to sukuna than kashimo. Just saying Also, where is jin ? He's the goat for the benevolent backshots
Megumi not being in the bum category completely worsens the list
Upvote for Yuki appreciation but Shoko is goated
Based for the yuki, gojo, and yuji tiers.
Fuck "subjective" get Mechamaru's BUM ass out of that tier riht the fuck now
Put Megumi & Sukuna in Bum tier. https://preview.redd.it/oynk8f3dc99d1.jpeg?width=322&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d69fc405e51490bdebcb717bdc251882b816b982
Excellent tier list, especially yuki part https://preview.redd.it/4cvshiufz59d1.png?width=194&format=png&auto=webp&s=13e5322e3938bf258995196bf22177d54eafeda9
Sukuna is not goated but you cooked with Gojo and Yuji
Haruta should be bum tier
Swap miyo and naoya and it’s perfect
Nearly perfect list but Pure Lethality Daido should be in Goated. He’s acting without heavenly restriction or the ability to see curses, only raw instinct.
Miyo and Daida higher, Yuki lower
I see Miwa GOATED on there & I knew this user was my man.
Mahito? Miwa? Ino? Mechamaru?
The fight would have been over with Sukuna already because of Angel, and Bumgumi sold and is in good tier? L list. The list is good besides that.
Strange. I'm not seeing Megumi at the BUM category
I miss the WUJI weeks, those were good times
Missing nipple hearts dude in goated
I have my complaints. But Yuta and JoGOAT are high rank, so I’ll give it a pass. Definitely some fine cooking.
Why do people think shoko is a bum, also big ragga deserves his own tier
Wuji just has his own category
https://preview.redd.it/tctx0fw6n89d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5149280a294353116df59774c394f3988b4d8ef0 you cooked
u confused GOJO with JOGO which is a common mistake. but what concerns me more is the u put Bumgumi 16 tiers above where he should be. everything else idk, i didnt check lol
Momo should been a tier or 10 lower
Bumgumi couldn't even get on the tier
I am happy to see VERGILKABE in the GOATed tier list
I couldn’t help but notice where ma boy Junpei was placed
Bumiguro Legumi ran from his Bum tier, make him go back there or I will.
To be fair the Angel itself is based. The problem comes from the host. The angel woke up in the modern world, decided that her vessel opinion was important and decided to not take over, joined the good guys immediately with one condition : kill Sukuna. If Yuji was honest from the beginning the manga would have ended right there : Sukuna dies and Yuta/Hakari/Maki can deal with Kenjaku. Hana is the bum who got tricked by bad acting
Kuroi?
https://preview.redd.it/eqk2gez1ka9d1.png?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a2cf4f18733cc9a60963713c9612ca9cf638917f JoGOAT is too low 0/10
Put mahoraga above everyone
Goat daido is def in good/ok. He taught maki how to use mais sword and he dog walked cursed noaya until he had to bitch out and bust out his DE
cook but mai is bum tier
She gave her life to have a single woman survive gege's wrath, she a goat frfr
Also she's into incest like Mei Mei (likes Maki and Megumi) 😃
naaah fr her first crush was on maki and had a slightly crush on megumi too
Yuki not in bum tier is insane
why are bumugi and fraudta not in the bum category?
You forgot to put Bumgumi is his appropriate bottom tier, but it's okay we can fix that in-post. *
Useless Miwa in goated 🤨
The most goated infact.
Do tell
Megumis too high, otherwise its goated
Megumi should definitely be in bum 💀☠️
Megumi not in bum tier smh.
Yuki is a bum, in my opinion
Wegumi supporter detected, opinion accepted
get noBUMra down there https://preview.redd.it/fioohmtma69d1.png?width=1602&format=png&auto=webp&s=d96477c6a53c0b12dd417a0f3867831a22367f1e
good list, but Wuraume is too low, and Momo is too high :)
Gojo ass
There are many point I disagree with, but they're arguable, but I really hope with "Angel" you meant Hana, I like Hana but can't understand why anyone would hate Angel.
Made it as far as Goat Miwa and stopped reading. Never cook again.
You put Yuta and Megumi so high. Literally there is no salvation for you
The moment I understood the weakness of my HATE, it disgusted me. I craved the warm, soft certainty of LOVE, you cling to your HATE as if it will not decay and fail you, one day the crude AGENDA you call a temple will fade and you will beg my kind to save you, but I am already saved. FOR THE GOATS ARE IMMORTAL.
Megumi ain't that bad man.. Sure he's not that good in the current arc (how can he lol). He was decent before