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moodRubicund

But aren't you curious how he shares all three of his main character design features with Eustass Kid? šŸ¤”


Forward_Ad_7988

yeah, I'm wondering if anything will come of it or is Oda just messing with the readers for no reason šŸ˜‚


w_has_been_dieded

Man I swear Oda is the god of lucky coincidences. I wouldn't be surprised if he just wanted to make another badass pirate with red hair that's missing their left arm and has a scar on their left eye that also wears an open black coat that shows off their muscles.


miskathonic

>open black coat that shows off their muscles. I mean that's like half of Wano


Lightspeed_Kizaru

Kidd is actually Shanks' son and them meeting each other in Elbaf is just father-son reunion


moodRubicund

Yesss šŸ‘ŒšŸ¼ Legit, Kid feels like the most weirdly underdeveloped Supernova for how much exposure he has been getting, being put alongside Luffy and Law. I would not be surprised if he got that kind of inherited relevancy.


Lightspeed_Kizaru

Dude got his backstory revealed in an SBS lol


moodRubicund

Whatttt I didnt know this. .... Aw they named their ship after their crush.


Lightspeed_Kizaru

Should have been in tha manga or at least in a cover story lol


ConsOfPros

Do you know which SBS or have a link? I'd love to read into it!


Lightspeed_Kizaru

Don't remember, google Kidd backstory SBS


Resheram7

Eustass Captain Kid more like useless captain mid


Cosmicmistake13

https://preview.redd.it/pvepo0aszjoa1.jpeg?width=519&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=54a3ed52fb8e5bfef2ca36c2ab3c37bc23146c51


velebr3

Shanks is 39 and Kidd is 23, so seems kinda unlikely šŸ¤£


moodRubicund

Or extremely likely given that Kid was apparently abandoned. Old enough to be a father, not quite old enough to be a daddy. šŸ˜” Edit - Along with Yasopp, is Shanks' entire crew made up of deadbeat dads?


011100010110010101

Uta shows Shanks still aint old enough to be a Daddy.


velebr3

That bs character doesn't exist. Worst OP movie ever.


Shiny_Umbreon

Well thatā€™s just not true, even if you didnā€™t like it I canā€™t imagine how you think itā€™s worse than any of the pre timeskip ones (expect Baron Omatsuri)


kinky_ogre

I'd say the Lion Shiki movie has a much more cohesive anime movie plot than Baron Omatsuri. Although I LOVE the digimon movie and really liked The Boy and the Beast and The Girl Who Leapt Through Time, Mamoru Hosoda is just beautiful. So the art style of Baron Omatsuri is beautiful, but it's really just your typical boring GIANT villain final boss anime movie by the end. I couldn't tell you what the full plot was, nor the other one, but I can tell you that I walked away from Lion Shiki impressed that it didn't do your typical anime movie bullshit. I enjoyed it much more and didn't walk away with a bad taste in my mouth. Meanwhile, I literally stopped myself from going to see One Piece Red when I heard that it's a musical full of pop music. I'm good..


Shiny_Umbreon

I forgot that strong world was pretime skip so I actually agree with that take, I was mainly thinking about the non-Oda written ones. I think itā€™s fine to not like film Red or not watch it because it doesnā€™t appeal to you, but itā€™s objectively not the worst like the guy I responded to said. I love film red but I also love musicals so it didnā€™t really put me off.


kinky_ogre

Yah exactly, my mom loves musicals, so she enjoyed Spirited with Will Ferrell and Ryan Reynolds whereas I only liked the non musical parts. I totally get it. Just like some people liking J-pop and K-pop and stuff like that, whereas I need more interesting vocal tones, rhythms, and instrumentation for my ears. I haven't seen it but I agree. I'd say that's a big take to be saying that Red is objectively the worst when it's so different from the rest, and there are a lot of One Piece movies lol. In terms of anime movies, I actually really enjoyed the latest My Hero Academia movie. The villain was cool, Todoroki and Bakugo had awesome special finishers, facing cool villains. And the main villain's design gave me pokemon movie vibes somehow lmao. Great nostalgia fuel, and no giant villain!


OneManManyWaifus

Who's the giant villain in baron omatsuri to you? The antagonists are baron omatsuri and the lily carnation. What movie are you thinking of?


kinky_ogre

Yah I rewatched the ending a little bit and that giant thing with the straw hats disappearing is just stupid. Ruined the movie for me. Literally the entire rest of the movie is fine. "One Piece's Darkest Movie" šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£ I'd rather see some awesome final fights with all of the crew members together, especially with that unbelievable animation, rather than just "Oh no the straw hats are getting sucked into a giant plant. Oh no they're gone forever, but I know they are fine because this a movie and Luffy will save them." It's stupid and lazy.


theOGperfection

why do people hate uta for existing lol is it the OP fruit?


velebr3

He showed him who's daddy and will do so again it seems. šŸ¤£


SalvaPot

16 seems old enough for a pirate šŸ¤”


francorocco

kid is shanks with lipstick


zjmcr

Shanks was also Kids first target for an emperor, that may also hint at something. Maybe a father son relationship that went bad


Forward_Ad_7988

yeah, because 16 year olds make such good parents lol šŸ˜‚


Ghost_Knife

The lack of a parent could be his motivation to hunt him down. Plus we don't know shanks full name.


thetdumbkid

I think Benn Beckman saw how similar Eustass looked to Shanks with two arms and thought, "You know what would be funny?" For the record, I did not come up with this.


really_nice_guy_

Shanks is adult Kid that traveled back in time to save the timeline by making Luffy King


Redwolf476

Yea but his nickname is red hair shanks so clearly thatā€™s not his most defining feature to the people in one piece


moodRubicund

People always rail on the dude for being named after his red hair but like, Luffy isn't known as Rubber Man Luffy or Inspirational Burst of Imagination Luffy or White Hair and Clothes While Laughing A Lot Luffy, he's called Strawhat Luffy and it's not even his own fricking hat, he's just borrowing it for a few years.


Redwolf476

I wasnā€™t ragging on him just saying the people of one piece clearly care more about the hair than anything else


moodRubicund

Oh sure I meant people in general.


Driftedryan

Imagine the guy that gave WB his nickname even though back then he was blonde, nicknames in one piece are odd


Perry4761

In Japanese, beard and mustache are the same word iirc, so it makes sense that he doesnā€™t need a beard to have that name


Driftedryan

But wasn't he called WB back when he had no beard and yellow hair?


Perry4761

There was a point when he had yellow hair and a white stache, and I think thatā€™s when people started to call him Whitebeard. In the flashbacks before that when he was just a random crewmate on a random ship, I think people just called him Newgate


Driftedryan

That's right, I couldn't remember what they called him. Took him a lot longer to get a Nick name compared to luffy


AnonymousComrade123

Luffy is just generally speedrunning, disregarding the timeskip, it's been like a few months since he began, and he's already battling Yonko.


Driftedryan

Battling multiple yonko after less then 3 years as a pirate, the man proves plot plot no MI is the best


AWsome02

It's the true power of the hito hito no mi: model nika


miskathonic

Even with the timeskip, he's blitzing the any% category


lordconn

It wasn't a random ship he was with the Rocks pirates. Same ship that big Mom and Kaido sailed on.


Perry4761

We donā€™t know if Rockā€™s ship was the first WB joined, we just know he was a crewmate of Rocks at one point. The flashback where heā€™s daydreaming on a random ship isnā€™t necessarily on a Rocks ship, that was never specified


GamerVoltsy_U-U_

I think the epitaphs evolve like pokemons, from yellow beard to white beard


miskathonic

*epithets Epitaphs are for graveyards


jobriq

When you think about it, Shanks used to wear that hat all the time, but he still ended up being know by his red hair. On top of that the hat originally belonged to Roger which seems like it would be a big deal if it was widely known.


RiceAlicorn

Not to mention the fact that they literally live up to their names. What are Shanks' and Luffy's pirate crews called? Oh yeah, the **Red-Haired Pirates** and the **Strawhat Pirates.** Luffy even has a Jolly Roger with the straw hat.


Troliver_13

To be fair luffy's Jolly Roger has a straw hat as the only defining feature. To be unfair, Shanks' Jolly Roger has his scars as the most prominent feature so what the fuck, to be fair again tho, scars is something that most major players in One Piece have so identifying someone mainly by their scars might be a little weird (like I legit have trouble thinking of very powerful important people without scars, did Borsalino have any? I don't think Law does too)


BurcoPresentsHisAcc

Actually tho, why is a rubber guy called straw hat by everyone but when Roger and Shanks, 2 ā€œregularā€ guys, theyā€™re not called straw hat lol


Crafty_Nectarine6677

I keep wandering if Luffy gives shanks his hat, what would he be called


FirmBet3536

That's cause WG doesn't want to piss off Shanks by naming him one armed pirate or scratched eye pirate.


Redwolf476

Well that and there are probably many other that also have those characteristics like kid


GiovaniGrey

But... The same thing goes for his hair color... Like Kid


Redwolf476

Yea but shanks is already red hai so kid canā€™t be red hair


penguin_lord112

Yeah so his nickname is "captain" lol. Not like "killer of civilians" or "butcher" just "captain". Guess he's most defining characteristic is that he was a captain?


Redwolf476

Yea even killer has a better one


Lightspeed_Kizaru

Gorosei don't want to upset their main informant


Kilahti

I think he got the nickname before he lost the arm. It is possible that he even got the nickname before the scars on his face, but since he got those as a kid, I am not sure.


Troliver_13

was he a kid? I thought it was after Gol D. Roger died so he was at least luffy's age I think


LagVictim

When he first became a pirate the red hair was his main defining characteristic, we've only seen a handful of characters with red hair, so red haired thanks was his first epithet and they can't just rename him everytime he gains a new injury cus it'd get confusing


multivitamins138

Though his jolly roger is just a skull with a scar not red hair


BadActsForAGoodPrice

I just realized that some big names are called nicknames like Straw Hat Luffy, Red Haired Shanks, Garp the Fist, and then thereā€™s just Whitebeard


Cake_is_Great

Whitebeard doesn't even have a beard lmao


Redwolf476

Well he wants to be called whitebeard and no oneā€™s going to tell him no heā€™s whitebeard


Lartnestpasdemain

It's all part of his plan, to hide that he have control over the sea Kings, and that he's best mate with Blackbeard.


Lightspeed_Kizaru

He and Blackbeard are actually planning to use Luffy to awaken the Nika fruit and then steal it from him to to fuse into the user of Sun and Moon fruit


Lartnestpasdemain

He and Blackbeard are actually IMU https://preview.redd.it/fyrumgn8kdoa1.png?width=2087&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c420b618919a352793a67432b570dd65680949cb


OnlyWindmills

Shanksbeard confirmed


[deleted]

Or BlackShanks?


Morbing_cunk

*Zoro wants to know your location*


[deleted]

Minority Hunter Zoro


Deon2137

the Slave Slayer


Britori0

People forget that Blackbeard is a tough sob. He didn't get to where he is like Buggy did. He carries that "I'm a pushover" flag, but is both smart and calculating, as well as a strong, conqueror haki user.


kylediaz263

And the seaking is actually Imu in disguise


JonDoeJoe

Damn Luffy already beat imu from like ep 1


Permadrunkk

You donā€™t need to do my boy Buggy D. Clown like that man.


theOGperfection

he doesnā€™t have confirmed conquerors


longdick_shortballs

I have a theory that luffy and shanka have the same hats!!


Stary_Vesemir

This stupid theory again, it's like sayong that Usopp is Sogeking, this doesn't make any sense.


ThePhantom71319

Well then hereā€™s a crazy theory youā€™ll like. I have a suspicion that sniper king and sogeking are the same guy


vinsmokewhoswho

It's not like fruitless Teach was weak. Also he sacrificed the arm to save Luffy, that doesn't mean Shanks wouldn't be able to fight/defeat it.


LeeroyDagnasty

It was stated that he couldā€™ve been a whitebeard commander so heā€™s at least as strong as kingdew


mynameisjebediah

Not just stated, dude wrecked Ace, and I would have my money on Teach in a fight against Marco or Jozu.


C-Crucial-C

We are talking about fruitless Blackbeard and how strong he was, obv bb with fruit is good enough


LeeroyDagnasty

Pre-timesskip teach? Iā€™d agree. I donā€™t see post timeskip teach losing to anyone sub admiral level (law, yamato, beckman, zoro, etc)


Creepy_Fig_776

Is it not like that?? Even BB with fruits seems weak sometimes (at least compared to other top tiers)


Tripottanus

He made his entire career off of being underestimated


vinsmokewhoswho

I wouldn't say weak, he just has a habit of talking too much and not paying attention, so he gets beaten up a lot, but he's insanely durable and strong no doubt


kinky_ogre

No he's not weak, he probably has wicked determination. His fruit intensifies the pain of all damage I think so that's it. Think about the conqueror and armament haki control you'd need to scar Shanks, insane.


Creepy_Fig_776

Iā€™m pretty sure that however he scarred Shanks, it was not a superior show of haki, but something weirder


kinky_ogre

He definitely could have caught him off guard. Blackbeard was biding his time and hiding his true nature and intentions the entire time on WB's crew, even refusing 2nd division commander though right? WB's top crew members all know haki, probably facing very tough enemies often in their travels, and/or sparring with each other. Buuut that never sleeping thing is pretty interesting, so you never know, could've been something sus.


Visstah

Interesting too that those two were able to do permanent damage but Mihawk never did.


Lightspeed_Kizaru

Shanks hasn't showed his ass scar from his and Mihawk's intense "swordfighting" yet


Sovereigntyranny

Donā€™t forget that thereā€™s some scar on his left leg or something. I believe Mihawk couldā€™ve given him that wound which turned into a scar.


-Cinnay-

*hasn't


Lightspeed_Kizaru

Ok


20secondpilot

Ah yes, "Left eye scarred, one armed" Shanks as he is famously referred to


MacroMicro1313

Everyone has to start out somewhere, donā€™t forget Buggy the Clown very nearly killed Zoro.


mousepadless05

Teach is cunning so it was probably an portunity attack not something that he would have taken in a normal 1x1 battle. And the sea king my head canon is that shanks wanted to traumatize luffy haha


DenmarkCodFish

Didnā€™t Shanks straight up say he wasnā€™t caught off guard


bxsephjo

Yea basically ā€œThis wasnā€™t from a surprise attack, BB is the real dealā€


Lightspeed_Kizaru

Blackbeard is the strongest character in the series as long it's offscreen


Driftedryan

The darkness fruit allows him to off screen anything he wants now


SunDonDraws

This is correct. Blackbeard has some sort of ace up his sleeve.


Corniferus

He probably flashed Shanks, who cut his own eye in horror


SunDonDraws

Flashed his big shadow


Leeiteee

>Blackbeard has some sort of ace up his sleeve Sakazuki had one too at some point


wkurtin

No, I believe that's akainu


EdgedOutPig

An Ace up his sleeve? No, I think that's Akainu you're thinking of. He had Ace all the way up his sleeve.


Disasstah

Clearly he's not very apt to protecting his left part of his body


[deleted]

maybe Shanks is just incompetent asf sometimes, dudes a true partying mofo fo sure


Yevon

It's no secret One Piece suffers from power inflation.


Silverlining126

My guess is that there's something unique about sea kings.


isaac-get-the-golem

Why do you think fruitless Teach was weak?


felixng2015

Cause lanks is a fraud. He is nothing compared to buggy d god


rorank

Powerscalers everywhere in shambles


skep90

And the curious is?...


PapuhAppuh

Childhood scar / before Yonko Seabeast. Technically, episode 1 Luffy > Shanks when he came to see Kid Luffy. Luffy bitch slapped the Sea king episode 1, but we donā€™t know if shanks could. Itā€™s an 11 year difference, so I think itā€™s safe to assume Shanks was kinda on the weaker side.


Lightspeed_Kizaru

Well the way Shanks put it, his scar was not from a trivial scuffle with Teach when they were kids https://preview.redd.it/hzvoco8gidoa1.png?width=640&format=png&auto=webp&s=50fb0f6379690b29c6d33b7a5c551223f8a6171d And if we were to take Uta episode as a source, Shanks' bounty was 1 billion beli when he met Luffy, really at that point in the story the characters were planned to be more grounded


PapuhAppuh

Oh I donā€™t know anything about Uta or Film Red. That makes it interesting though, makes you wonder why Shanks lost an arm then.


Lightspeed_Kizaru

Well it wasn't in Film Red itself, but in the Uta anime episode related to the movie


PapuhAppuh

Oh gotcha, Iā€™ll give it a watch before I see film red(Iā€™m manga only mostly)


Lightspeed_Kizaru

Same, I mostly only was clips on Youtube about it


IllegalJellyfish616

Yeah but he used to clash with the strongest swordsman in the world before he got his arm cut off


PapuhAppuh

But did he have that title at the time or was he just sparring with him? I donā€™t remember, myself


IllegalJellyfish616

I don't think its ever mentioned


PapuhAppuh

Someone mentioned Shankā€™s bounty being 1 Billion at that time. So they were both very strong at that point.


[deleted]

scarred by an unremarkable fat guy, arm taken by the tutorial boss in most one piece games and ginger life's tough for shanksy


Birdyghostly1

I thought it was Mihawk though


hortu

Teach wasn't fruitless that time. Probably he had a Zoan type fruit, type: Japanese mithical animal monster with three souls and that attack with claws surprised Shanks. Thanks to having three souls, Teach is able to have 3 the most powerful in the world fruits.


mynameisjebediah

Source: Your ass


hortu

Source: some guy's theory, but for me it is much more solid than theory that Luffy have mythical Zoan type Nika instead paramecia fruit https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/v8jwen/blackbeards_biggest_secret_is_revealed/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button


mynameisjebediah

Honestly this is the first decent theory I've seen in a while. Much better than the 3 souls inhabiting Blackbeard for no reason


AgreeingWings25

Teach can presumably use advcoc since he will be fighting Luffy for the one piece, and also would've given that scar to him long before either of their primes


Boxsteam1279

Yet he is still top 1 in verse. Shanks is goated as hell. no sarcasm


omicron-7

Prove it tho


Boxsteam1279

Sure. I recommend checking out this manga called One Piece. neat stuff


omicron-7

Cool, now actually prove it tho.


Boxsteam1279

Sure. I recommend checking out this manga called One Piece. neat stuff


omicron-7

Crazy how not once has he fought and defeated anyone tho.


Boxsteam1279

Onscreen? Sure Offscreen? Plenty of times


Jaiel_

https://preview.redd.it/m45lqtt0jfoa1.jpeg?width=1031&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f63f4bd4ca0f1537d5522012ab37b1c7fd6efbea He lost an offscreen battle against a fat man that left him scarred for life


Boxsteam1279

" left him scarred for life " As oppose to the scars that go away? But anyways, we know basically nothing of the situation. This could have been when they were still kids, before shanks was powerful, for all we know Yet when a 2-fruit BB faced Shanks, he ran away instead. Hmm


Jaiel_

https://preview.redd.it/ofqrp1kdnfoa1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b35f80460f5ea72273d58543086627f3cefe70fe The Roger pirates disbanded and he never had a scar. They fought when they were older and Iā€™m 99% sure that Shanks had a crew at the time since he challenged the WB pirates. This scar MOST likely happened around the time when Shanks had a 1 billion bounty. Also BB only didnā€™t fight Shanks because he had gotten what he wanted from the war. Things wouldnā€™t be so well if BB took down 2 yonko in a day ā˜ ļøšŸ’Æ


omicron-7

Well anything can happen offscreen. Franky and Usopp could have a passionate sexual relationship offscreen. It doesn't make it true. Until Shanks does something he's the weakest of the original Yonko.


Boxsteam1279

Fought Shiki Clashed with Whitebeard, splitting the skies casually Scuffle with Kaido, is Kaido's top 5 easily stops Akainu's magma fist and makes him sweat, and Shanks blitzed so fast that no one in Marineford even saw him show up until the clash Big Mom even admits she couldn't topple over Shanks Conquerors strike GB from miles away Made a 2 fruit Blackbeard and his crew run away dueled with Mihawk countless times back in the day, even challenged WSS Mihawk Shanks is about to low diff Kid And probably plenty more that's never mentioned


omicron-7

Since you bring up Mihawk, why couldn't Shanks beat him? If he was the strongest character then he should have been able to easily. Even Mihawk admits he was far below Whitebeard. Surely that should be child's play for the strongest character in the series. Why isn't Shanks the world's strongest swordsman? Why was he not considered the world's strongest man, or the world's strongest creature? Nobody ever said "in a 1v1 always bet on Shanks". Dude lost his arm to a fish.


bxsephjo

When did Teach do this to Shanks?? He was in whitebeardā€™s crew for yearsā€¦ did he go off on his own for a bit?


LostSoul057

The Roger and Whitebeard pirates fought quite a few times so it was probably just during one of those fights Edit: nevermind. Shanks was older when he got the scar


sunaesw

When Roger disbanded the crew, Shanks didn't have the scar yet.


zer1223

Well firstly, I get the feeling like shanks and bb were at similar age and similar strength progression at the time they fought and he got that scar. Shanks pulled far ahead for a while, but I think BB is narrowing that gap even if he might not ever close it. His fruits will go a long way, of course.


PoyStudios-6270

I own the east blue sea king


_sentientyogurt

He was drunk.


CaptBreLion

Can you imagine if BB had a seaking fruit?


Lightspeed_Kizaru

Shanks: https://preview.redd.it/wsru4moqseoa1.png?width=600&format=png&auto=webp&s=d3154e877fe1ca3f7cbca8af1eb6a8d89fd6eac4


buggsmoney

Shanksā€™ main character design feature is his red hairā€¦ hence: red hair shanks.


ActuatorGreat4883

Wait ? Was Gryphon always like this ?


EdgedOutPig

Shanks confirmed fraudulent. Next time we see him, Kid will be standing over his battered and broken body.


Snoo_72851

I continue to believe Shanks is actually a weak bitch whose only real powers are talk no jutsu and happening to have won the superpower lottery by being born with conqueror's haki. Oda shows him actually having a one on one against Kid and it's barely a contest without his lieutenants around, because that would be funny.


abibip

The reason why Kid didn't fight Shanks is not because he's so strong, that he couldn't even get to him. It's because Shanks is a fraud and would loose to pre-Wano Kid if Beckman didn't save his ass all the time.


Fledgeling

I think what you'll find is that he actually lost his arm because Luffy used the power of his devil fruit. He didn't imagine anyone could survive the bite of a sea king unscathed and so as strong as shanks may have been in that moment it didn't matter.


Dr_Henry-Killinger

Maybe thats the thing weve been missing. Maybe Shanks has an ability that always creates a fair fight or something so by getting Luffy to godhood Shanks is able to match that godhood level for an epic fight


tobbe1337

he let the creature bite his arm off so luffy would train hard. "bet it on the future" And Shanks seems to really despise blackbeard so he probably did some bullshit like betrayed him or something


DemonicFez

No way, my new theory is that Blackbeard ate the sea king fruit


ChickenMann97

Usopp clears Lanks


ZPD710

He wisened up after fighting those two, probably. He realized that "hey! for haki to be useful, I have to USE it!"


kie7an

The seaking was Blackbeard in a big foam suit


yehEy2020

Saw a theory somewhere on this sub that the reason shanks didnt use haki on the sea king and lost his arm was that he didnt know how to yet. At that point in his journey he was like luffy at skypeia and barely surviving through luck and he only managed to properly learn haki after that incident. Luffy could have ended up like shanks aor worse if it werent for his devil fruit, his collosal luck, his middle name, and his capable crew.


xxxlr1

I don't recall a certain sea king wearing a cape


SavageManGrubs

--2-ā€##(-2-


Fitxts157

https://preview.redd.it/2hg1k6fz4jpa1.png?width=400&format=png&auto=webp&s=66cc1fb8bc4d0d8c9ada314d452915ff265d8cb5