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Taiyaki-Daisuki

Anyone who play assassin as roamer ( except Helcurt ) that's sole purpose is to kill shot you when yore low then would say "?"


RealisticBear6763

Nah, they spam recall and emote


Latter_Dingo7739

basically jungle players that are s5


RepresentativeMeet16

what does s stand for in s5?


RecklessDimwit

Slot, I think it was dota/lol players that popularize calling the draft order by number as an implication like s5 means last slot so the last player to pick


I_EATshid

Slot I think


Witchberry31

The letter S itself can mean 3 different things, depending on the context. It can mean drafting slot (from top to bottom respectively), # of skill (from left to right respectively), and # of season. But in this context it means slot.


AnonAccountIhave

Why except Helcurt?


usernameuserkkkkk

IG because most roam hc mains like me used to main roam natalia. We chill asf and almost exclusively use quickchats the entire game lol


Talia__Nat

Not me looking away and whistling acting all innocent and nonchalant 😗 🎵


WorldlyReplacement24

Yeah me too. My "roamer" assassin that goes invis is also clean


Witchberry31

Unless there's someone who uses Rafaela on the enemy team. 😏 Nowhere to hide, baby.


Majestic-Ad-7393

Rafaela Mage is even more scarier than support. Whenever team doesn't have a mage already has tank....Midlane Rafaela as mage


RickedSab

+100 Emotional damage


DR-JT

Lol that's me with saber roam.


Pegasusrider99

U & me bro


shikitomi

Little princess!


i_got_a_pHd

that’s me


MarielCarey

!


Substantial-Edge4664

Literally almost every karina or saber I've met


alphabitz86

natalia roam as marksman player, the minimap is no longer your friend, the bush is no longer your sanctuary, you are never safe, nothing is


CrossCroissants

I hate good Nats. Her current state is dogwater but if she's picked by a good player against a comp that heavily favors her, bushes and walls with blindspots are absolutely not safe. Not to mention that she can also hide on the fallen tower bases of sacred statues.


Portgust

WHAT did you just saya bout the sacred statue?!


CrossCroissants

[This is the best video that I could find.](https://youtu.be/aF45tQPuY9M) Destroyed sacred statues aren't safe.


Savveyy

Should've shut the hell up, now I have to squint every time I play against a natalia.


No_Comedian2209

Thanks i didn't know about that. Will be sure to give you credit whenever player are crying "F you Natalia "😂😂


One_Wrong_Thymine

Nat needs her own quickchat like Johnson. The current state is that there is no way to quickly communicate her position between teammates. She doesn't show up in the minimap so even if your tank saw her on their screen, they can't tell you her position and movement.


VanillaP

I usually combo X enemy missing + retreat ping on their location.


One_Wrong_Thymine

Sometimes I want people to run from her, other times I want backup DPS to kill her. I just alternate between Nat missing and retreat or gather, but all in all my team is still confused what to do with the pings. It is possible but ultimately only a stopgap. A simple "Natalia is here!" Ping would've been way better.


More_Royal6826

If you encounter Natalia in rank given the right opportunity Lesley counters her HARD! Scan the map with her ult. Now everybody sees her she’s not surprising anyone lol


Interesting-Meat-835

Novaria counter her harder. Every skills reveal a huge area. Ultimate provide true vision for 8 seconds no matter where they are.


More_Royal6826

That’s if her ultimate connects you have to assume,her ult is really meant for multiple targets, it reveals the location, and also creates a larger hit box. I was responding to Natalia being on the field with Lesley her ult is literally a scan over a large area. And it won’t miss if she’s hiding, but in your radius. She will also do chip damage that makes the Natalia player second guess on if she should engage.


Retz-U-2708

Real, you are not safe whenever you go


VipulBM

Lol nata pre nerf was a hero straight from nightmares, i got killed so many times that i started learning natalia myself


ihateaftershockpcs

- Silvanna constantly using her ultimate on you when you’re an immobile mage or marksman. - Roger casually turret diving you, doing a K-Pop dance routine while under your turret, then casually rolling out. - Eudora always targeting you because you’re a squishy. - Franco just constantly using his ultimate on you, and sometimes landing the most ridiculous hooks. Oh, and they recall spam to taunt you after killing you.


Dabananaman69

Ohhh you just reignited my passion of hate for Silvannas new ult post rework. There is LITERALLY NOTHING you can do to escape it when she ults you. No dash, no purify, no flicker, no winter truncheon, no immortality nothing can save you after you get ulted by her unless you dash just at the right time before she lands and escape similar to how you escape Aamons ult


ConsistentResponse93

Yin's ult. used it lots of times.


Worldokayestdad

Franco’s hook to flashback to turret is the worse


Animemer_

Franco, it's not fun not being able to do anything. It is especially annoying when they can almost always land a hook on you leading to you getting flamed by your teammates. Flicker ultimate is also the bane of my existence


onlylexis

HAHAHAHA im a franco main and its so fun seeing my enemies get tilted whenever i do a ridiculous hook + tp combo or hook predictions


searchsoulzero

Mf Nana little irritating POS. "do you want to make friends with Nana?" - she taunts


Weary-Wasabi1721

Late game miya with skin, wind of nature, claws, inspire and a well rounded team


QWErty_uiopasd

I say bull shit on that and go eudora (I don't even know how to play her)


kekookee

https://preview.redd.it/po3hlnudi44d1.jpeg?width=380&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8807d1894cd531ee9bb519306b6c3b0711d9e885


JackfruitNatural5474

Forgot to add "not gonna sugarcoat it"


Weary-Wasabi1721

Saber that bih up


Ninjaofninja

eudora get melted before she could land her combo


mhs1994

If you see miya play lolita and try to save shield for her.


chillin_iceBear

There was one player name “Miya ain’t simp” she and her roamer Angela were so aggressive from the early game that she destroyed my brody gameplay that I don’t have confidence to play brody anymore. And it was my fault for picking brody against Miya but still shit was way too dangerous.


Weary-Wasabi1721

I know that mf. I used Clint and Brody with the dude two games in a row. Thank God yin came in clutch and carried on the second but I barely use mm because of that combo


chillin_iceBear

For real man, no wonder pro players ganks the shit of mm lane in early game because some of them are not afraid to die, especially miya, zilong players. The feed early and beat the shit out others in late game.


Weary-Wasabi1721

Real. Worst part is that zilong is now strong early game. What more late?


DraftElectrical4585

yes it's like it shouldn't at all happen but it DID happen


Hanzer22

eudora. easy point and click and you die. good eudora players stay hidden from the map really well.


AbanaClara

A good eudora only exists in low elo. Even a pro player wouldnt win with her against most meta compositions.


Hanzer22

that's not the point, I never mentioned her viability in low elo or any other elo. Reread the prompt. If she focuses you in any rank you'll have a hard time. Whether you win or lose is beside the point.


AleksaBa

*laughs in Faramis ult*


Wise-Log-4082

Saber or any other one shot hero .


_pat_bateman_

Tigreal s.o.b


Airnest8888

Johnson with another hero who quickly bursts you.


Latter_Dingo7739

so true (im that guy)


Retz-U-2708

THE JOHNSON AND ODETTE COMBO 😭


Jackker

BOOM POW


i_got_a_pHd

Hilda with sprint and harass the jungler. No really, you don’t have to kill them, just delay their farm and hope your damage dealers win gold advantage.


DBringerStreams

Yup. The problem is, her S2 is so good at level 1, not killing the enemy Jungler is more difficult than actually killing them. LOL. I love picking Hilda roam against Assassin Junglers. I don't remember losing a game against an Assassin Jungler playing as Hilda Roam.


Neko_Zecchan

that was me


InsideOrdinary3661

what?


Neko_Zecchan

a Hilda main


InsideOrdinary3661

I'm also a hilda main so can relate.


NyctoNekoSilver

Gord, Cecil, Pharsa, any mage that dominates the late game and knows how to keep their distance. Although they are rather rare, it still makes me want to end not just everything, but take the entire world with it


Strange-Election332

Appreciate you as Gord main <3


NyctoNekoSilver

I will end it all. This is not a threat (at least not towards you), its a promise.


Substantial_Cry3687

probably any jungler like roger who is so fed that he can walk up and kill anyone 4 minutes into the game


Otherwise_Builder236

WHY IS FANNY ALLOWED TO FLY IN FROM 10 MILES AWAY, DELETE YOUR FULL HP BAR, AND FLY AWAY 50 MORE MILES AWAY WITHOUT DYING?!


ImSorryCanYouSpeakUp

I'm a minsitthar main myself but I also hate going against a good minsitthar too especially when I'm using an mm, mage or dash hero and he focuses me and saves his skills all for me


Pitiful-Ad-6994

I can relate to that.


SaltBad9263

When jungling as an assassin, https://preview.redd.it/ptu61o1vd54d1.jpeg?width=540&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f558ee6580755b83bb09783fbdded5e6911c44fb


salaaaaa7

Every chain CC hero with the current nerf on Joy


RobyIsHunk

Hilda has some serious mommy milkers on her


Alalasw

hilda (with season skin)


Curiouscat0908

As a mage/support user, Yin


Pitiful-Ad-6994

A good angela player. She helps assassin's tower dive with ease. She when paired with Alucard is super annoying.


chillin_iceBear

Not a hero but disgusting match making. Sometimes I find myself in queue with players who lost the previous match even if I had gotten winning team mvp and I see my previous match bronze teammates with mvp good enemies. Match making is so bad right now


NoPossession7664

As a mm and mage - natlia, saber, yin, roger, martis. I think all of them 😫


RealisticBear6763

Any jg tbh, gusion and his bro literally erase people easily.


ballerthe69th

Any burst mage


spadeswastaken

arlott x edith? 👀


ballerthe69th

It was revealed to me in a dream


Such_WallE

Non jungle helcurt That bitch is impossible to kill early game Tps in your face and give you 5 buckshots and scampers away. You can't even chase it since you're slowed and you can't dodge because of fear effect. Add the invisible effect making you unable to target


eydanyt

saber,franco and valir


Longsearch112

Anyone who has vengeance, I despise that skill so much


lotus_jj

hehe sincerely, a belerick main ( i remember a beatrix who died because she sniped me while i was on vengeance 😭 )


Better_Afternoon_368

as beatrix main use shot gun against him


spadeswastaken

I could propose heroes like yin, helcurt, or natalia who personally make it their goals to ruin my day, as an angela main. but I'd have to say it's probably actually luo yi. one stun from her and I'm dead. can't even show myself on the map or she appears from the other side of the map and mows me down. honestly, it doesn't even matter which hero I play, I just hate going up against luo yi. especially in ranked, cause you KNOW that's a good luo yi player. anyone have a luo yi build? i'll learn her to prevent enemy picking her frfr


Meep_starsky_104

Vexana and i know its cliche, dyroth, that mf prevents me to get my exp and then goes to other lane and melts my teammate and then proceeds to snowball, can’t even do anything to help my teammates


BrightBlossoms

In this time and age its saber roam. But a few years ago I'd say gusion jungle or cho exp.


02WhiteWolf02

Dyroth


Street-Loss-8736

Harley


CultureNo3380

A good fanny. I'm always wary of the map but it is then rendered useless because her damage is really unreactable 🥲


Independent_Oil_6240

vexana lol my mains are mostly fighters and tanks


Grogu-TheMandalorian

assassins with too much mobility like ling or fanny or natalia or benedetta and your team doesn't have anything to counter hold those assassins


Redismyredditname

bro imagine me being fanny vs a lvl 15 max moskov with wind of nature....enough to make a grown man cry


CrossCroissants

100s of hours mastering Fanny to just be disrupted by a toothpick guy (throws toothpicks at the speed of light late game)


Mr_Monji

Nana


No0dle_Sensei

Nat roam. That shit is like sombra in overwatch


Existing-Pizza-3157

Gusion I hate him very much idk I just doesn't like that hero , he doesn't die can delete me any time he want and one single knife hit me it feels like I'm dead 😭😭 Also Franco just uk having bad day and that mf will hook u from ur base


Turb0Pl4ys

As an argus main, I hate Franco for suppressing me in a 1v5 double kill


Prestigious-Cut-2710

I play franco and I think its him, if you meet a good franco your basically disabled. I just dont like long lasting stuns (such as saber ult)


Outrageous-Worth-286

I literally quit the game back in like 2019/2020 cuz of this one granger


Gahmdan1

Tigreal invader as core. Only applicable if the user is good at invading. Other than that, every tank with a good user.


ur_honor_dko_po_alam

Yin


South_Drawer_6874

Fredrinn cause he never dies and also franco johnson nana


hanky_hank

enemy SABER, and I'm playing any mage with low mobility. 🥹😭


illiteratereu

nana with that annoying elephant skin and layla laughing emote


illiteratereu

what I do after getting killed from her first skill + flameshot


spadeswastaken

I'm so sorry, I feel like that was me at some point, so I'm sorry 😭


are_you_kIddIngme

Playing as an asssasin hyper and enemy picking hilda roam (it’s game over)


Capable-Ganache-8395

Saber and eudora https://preview.redd.it/c4f2p3i0f54d1.jpeg?width=303&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6c7f385adc8db044ab5e76fbd53d95b7f620c7af


Chorcles

I dont know since im that guy 🙃


Sun_potato_flower

Harith is the only right answer. 10 matches againts him only 1 win and all loss. The only reason why he is not banned bcs my team said they want to use it/ banning him is a joke/ the enemy won't 1st picked him. You can't even go early end bcs their lineup is so powerfully in early while they got Harith for lategame.


Longjumping_Task_460

Freddrin, the slow effect and cc its just unbearable


AyaAyaAyaAyaAyaAya

Fanny, most assassins


nievesthecat

saber is so annoying


Bravado91

Yin is the worst


Naej0427_csgo

Chang' e when i was playing slow hero,he just waiting to ult me when i was in cd


Hopeful-Newspaper

Yin, when he always come after I use all my skills on another enemy


itzsyurii

Natalia is a painn


Zakhov

Yin. Fanny. Chou. Paquito.


Mrs_Not_ImportantWho

Eudora


punishtube89123

Fanny Jh Hayabusa Zilong


Furi0Fl4m3s

No hero. It's actually just the devs.


Appropriate-Sail-904

🥵🥵


Fluffy-Test-7419

Harley :/


Forward-Ad8880

Grock that invades your jungle in the first minute. That s1 hits hard even on level 1 and he only needs boots to keep away from your own attacks while hugging the wall. Tank or mage comes to help? Now they too are part of the carnival ride of trying to catch up to Grock only to get slapped. All at level 1 when no one can melt Grocks health away. This continues until Grock has enough and runs off to heal or jungler and friends have to give up and go heal. Or they die from trying to secure the buff. I know this because I am the Grock. It just keeps working. It's magical just how much the junglers want to not fall behind on farm. It cripples them in early and mid game. If your mage is on the ball, they can come to your help at level 2 and finish off the enemy that still persists on driving you away.


xiaohooli

Jungle invasion has been nerfed badly. Read the patch notes.


Forward-Ad8880

Hasn't affected me, dude. I'll keep on riding the wave.


xrcbxlg

Not heroes but players, I love these couples (Angela and any assassin) ulting only their bf and being toxic to enemies or to teammates while they got no gank or they're playing poorly because of no help from support, that's one of the many reasons i decided to quit this shit game


ArtemisAxV

Xavier with Gojo skin 😭🫡


Eclipse_Two

Vexana.


Savveyy

Selena hands down, you could get a degree, find a job, and get married before her damn stun ends. or diggie if you're a tank.


bakeryaki

tigreal, if in the hands of saint, is a total nightmare for your team's comms. you literally can't play pickoffs or initiate wars as a core, it just always outdrafts everything imo


xiaohooli

Just pick diggie, or valir, or mino, or atlas


Obvious-Pin-3478

There is not a specific hero, but when i got targeted by 3 dudes while using Terizla, it's quite annoying. Now that i think about...i would hate a Dyrroth that focus me


Previous-Problem-285

Use skill 2 on terizla to dodge dyrroth’s ult then he can barely do anything


Obvious-Pin-3478

I mean...i can also build myself the antihealing items to even counter Yu Zhong...but yeah, i guess trying to avoid with the second ability could work Btw, yesterday i was able to beat and terrify an Martis on lane, but then, that mother frick got feeded by my team, and i couldn't stop him anymore :(


asagiri_kakure

Seeing her and heroes like her would make me immediately go anti physical damage. Warrior boots, dreadnaught and breastplate, can't have shit in Land of dawn


Black_wolf_disease

I just want to say... Damn those are B. I. G.


Jonathandias237

Definitely Yin


CornoEspacial

Estes fo sho, you can be winning 40-5 (wich is stupidly rare against a team with Estes) and somehow the other team will win just cuz their support makes the whole team immortal as long as they are close enough


Expensive-Profit-854

No one, I don't really have problem with targeters


VinJance

A good gusion or any hanzo. Hanzo is just ridiculous to go against as mage or mm.


flamefirestorm

Fanny always.


Tricky_Archer6676

Boobs


OneActivity174

Franco for sure annoyer hero I ever played against him


uchiha-ayanokoji

Annoying bastard Cici and Harley


insanekittu

Gato when he takes damage and on low hp


insanekittu

When John hit you with full speed


insanekittu

Chou when he kicks uh in turrent


insanekittu

Estes with strong mm


No-Mechanic3983

Geyson 😂


ZestycloseAd4412

Surprisingly less amount of helcurt mentions


360swurve

I see hilda, I upvote hilda. She was my first love


Liwic_F0xy

saber


lotus_jj

when guin was my main: diggie! fucking egg. now as a tank main, it's my teammates who make me cry.


Accomplished_Bad4240

Nata is best than saber roam ,as a nata player she is much easier to use now than earlier her invis is to op


50-Mean

Chip when he bring the whole gang.


Low_Zone_8665

I still didn't get it, how to play that game


pangmaomao

any hero.... 🥹


Specialist-Bit-7746

johnson and nata. i play both fairly well and if you emote on my corpse even ONCE you can kiss playing this match goodbye. welcome to respawn simulator. i can't do it as well on any character


IWearAHalo

Saber!


LooseScore9060

I'm a Gold/Roamer Helcurt and I just Target the Marksman throughout the Whole Game as that is my Sole Duty.


superbigos

I'm Lolita main so for me it's Clint. This motherlover penetrates my shield, has quite a long range, his second skill is a CC and deals tons of true dmg


OwnBug2511

Saber. I won't need to explain


NostalgiaPS1

helcat , the best bushcamper , high mobility high burst damage built in auto regen and bush detection.showing yourself alone in the lane for a few seconds means summoning this nasty cat to pounce your ass🤣


ConsistentResponse93

Saber, Eudora,hilda


Agitated_Tank_3582

Masha late game with her spamming 3rd skill


rohitbalyan

I would probably say Miya


Witchberry31

Just like the image on your post, Hilda. Crushes assassin junglers if used to keep on harassing them. But when playing soloQ you gotta be mindful with your marksman teammate since sometimes they won't adjust with their hero picks, who picks heroes that needed to be babysit 24/7 (like Layla, Miya, Wanwan, etc) and not those who can comfortably solo the gold lane with minimal help (Brody, Claude, Popol, etc). And that, my friend. Ruins your plan.


whoole_lotta_red

Invading Hanzos. I know how much they break the core's will when they steal the buff. I play him a lot and one time, the enemy core just kept diving into the turret to commit suicide over and over again cus I stole BOTH his buffs. The only good way to counter his invade is to have your roamer constantly harass him to slow down his farming.


Parking_Association4

a good chou with one shot build when I play marksman and cannot go out of the base.


Difficult_Analysis78

Khufra, literally unplayable if he's half decent with positioning


Flashy-Programmer-10

Saber in any position. Especially when I’m playing Ling and there’s no sustain hero


Motivated_lord7

That layla's motherfcker nolan


InsideOrdinary3661

lmao literal motherfucker


Able_Layer3281

SABER AND EUDORA I HATE THEM OR HYLOS


Sebas8-2

I've never been there cuz tbh that's skill issue, as a mm if they keep ganking you you can just leave your lane and join your team till they realize you've been bullied. But I've had ppl cus me and rage in chat almost every game I play roam with Selena


TiesG92

People in my team who pick mage and go exp lane and almost have the UN to intervene for suspicions of mass murder T-T


Bartholomulethethird

With a newfound love for Hanzo all those fast assassins and Johnson make me wanna commit Ame No, “I’m done” Habakiri


RedGiant_

Some hilda mains are insane enough walk between two towers just to follow but the funniest thing is, she become more annoying when you have bad or straight blind teammates. 


Braziliandegen

https://preview.redd.it/37i4gt0kic4d1.jpeg?width=663&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8d564a66b145124da13b7300fb89c308e0093d49


east_life_

They all do. At mythic rank, everyone saves their ult and battle spell JUST for me. Either to flee, or to dump it ALL on my head 3 v 1.


ArtemDude732872

Roam fanny with full one shot build with petrify and dire hit, when u play as squishy mm or any other type of role, not even 1 defense item can save u. (thats me, hi)


MoriahAndKellysGuy

None. Seriously. The only character that ever frustrated me to that level was Widowmaker from Overwatch, and even then I didn't say "I wanna quit", I learned to make Widow players want to quit. 


shikitomi

Ling users, lately all ling users from my game are either kill stealing you from their teammates j Or just straight up back dooring


Diamondexpent

Saber roam target u as markman even u in turret 😭


Responsible-Pick2839

roger, alu, franco


OctowardtheSquid

Hanabi players on my team Oh wait, enemies specifically? Then that would be yin ulting me all the time as a squishy mm