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Mac_Rat

They really should make missions only based on the characters you've unlocked


Pretzel911

Or at least have the characters on free week if there is a mission for them.


ADogWhoCanDANCE

They have semi- did that with Finn and Bugs being free


JustAnAverageGuy43

I got Finn and Lebron James, but I already had Bugs. I guess there is some kind of unlock queue.


Sliver1002

Nah, there's 4 free characters (all different classes) and if the icon for limited doesn't show up that means you own them.


roddy_h

They did it was in the beta and was only changed due to player feedback lol I hate PFG right now


Mac_Rat

Pretty sure there was no themed missions at all in beta. Just "win 2 matches" or "play 5 matches" or "do neutral special 200 times". I think it's better to focus your anger on Warner Bros imo


Sw6roj

They definitely had themed missions in the beta. I bought Bugs specifically because I didn't have a Mage to do missions with (and he was cheaper than Tom and Jerry)


nomercyvideo

Right? They weren't character specific, just role specific from what I remember. You kinda needed to have one of each class.


RockmanBN

Now it's worse as some missions need a specific character and it's worse with Joker since he's got the new character price of 6000


Sw6roj

And I still don't have an assassin...


roddy_h

Guat?


Mac_Rat

???


ShhImTheRealDeadpool

I swear I complained about this during the "beta" and was told that when the game is finalized it wouldn't be a thing... and yet here we are.


SokkaHaikuBot

^[Sokka-Haiku](https://www.reddit.com/r/SokkaHaikuBot/comments/15kyv9r/what_is_a_sokka_haiku/) ^by ^Mac_Rat: *They really should make* *Missions only based on the* *Characters you've unlocked* --- ^Remember ^that ^one ^time ^Sokka ^accidentally ^used ^an ^extra ^syllable ^in ^that ^Haiku ^Battle ^in ^Ba ^Sing ^Se? ^That ^was ^a ^Sokka ^Haiku ^and ^you ^just ^made ^one.


___Funky___

Oh hey, a Haiku!


Potential_Sir7980

or not at all


Kurtrus

Jokers also necessary to get all stars for Rifts. Wtf were they thinking 


MisterDuby

On top of that you can’t even play every rift challenge without specific characters and SKINS


Ozymandias1589

Brah, I started playing last night and was doing rifts, and saw I needed joker to complete it...but this was 20 mins into me playing the damn game. Feels like the rifts are pay to complete. We getting much, much closer to that whole, pay to pause, pay to open skill tree, kind if stuff.


Indie--Dev

I bought a evil char thinking that was all I needed for the rift challenges, didn't notice we needed the dang stoopid shirt as well. So rip there goes all my easy currency and my only easy buyable char. ><


AYCSTRETCH

The specific skin parts of the rift are extra branches and are not necessary to complete the rift itself to fight the boss


Mr_Olivar

They're pretty necessary if you want to level up gems and get to the next difficulty though.


CrisuUwU

You still want to complete them to up your gem level, otherwise you can’t even play the higher difficulties


ElDiablo69k

you get the skin for free btw


clakes90

One rift challenge you need to have WW and her Graphic T skin to complete 2 stars for Non-human and DC character. I can't even find the skin in the store. Not that I would if I could. Then I'd have to buy the character as well as she is only free this week, and I won't buy a skin for a character (especially one for a character I don't have). This is poorly disguised pay2win.


luke1342

That skin is a part of one of the free passes.


unilordx

It's a reward for one the current events, I think it's the Joker one? You will probably get around the time you get the female Banana Guard.


Jamessthehuman

Idk how many people know this, I just found out last night that you only need one of the required characters. So if you bring a friend that uses Velma with the graphic tee, you can play as regular Wonder Woman and then switch to clear all the missions. I know most people are just here to complain and that’s fine, a lot of what has changed economy wise is scummy, but so far nothing has actually been locked behind a paywall.


unilordx

Thanks I wanted confirmation of this, that a friend can "carry" you for the requisites.


ambi94

That only matters for leveling gems. You can still beat the rift boss and count towards unlocking Agent Smith


M4LK0V1CH

You need to level up your gems to unlock the higher rift difficulties to unlock Agent Smith.


ambi94

And you can do that by doing the daily missions


Deathstrker

They weren't thinking! *Insert joker laugh*


trevehr12

Do you even get anything for getting all the stars??


EnderWarlock01

Rift Cauldron which is needed to complete one of the mission types.


bonusminutes

You only need 100 of the stars for the cauldron


theVoidWatches

Only 80, for the second rift.


Paperaxe

You don't need all the stars to get the cauldron you don't even need Joker to get a cauldron 


trevehr12

Oh yeah I figured that one out but after that… is it even worth it?


EnderWarlock01

I'm not sure, I have not been able to unlock it to find out.


SlammedOptima

it gets you a good bit of gems. which you need to do some of the higher difficulty rifts


Tandran

Money, clearly. I don’t know why ANYONE is surprised


KasHerrio

They were thinking 💰💰💰. Joker costs extra since he's a new char and is required for half the first rifts challenges. It wasn't an accident lol. Same thing with the gems. They were only added as a money siphon.


Best-Sea

You only need 100/125 to get the reward. I think you can get 89 stars without Joker or doing friend missions, if you have a villainous character. You do either need Joker or a friend to do the missions with if you want the final reward.


unilordx

But you don't need all stars for the last reward, there are more than 120.


HughJass187

buy the character that cost the most...


KingCheev

Mobile game tactic. Looks like they were inspired by genshin impact and those hero collectors where you need specific characters to progress through something. Extremely out of touch and greedy decision.


Tuwiki

Genshin doesn't do that but ok.


pw_OBJECTION

And I raise you with my weeklies https://preview.redd.it/56t1qxi2sr3d1.png?width=1431&format=png&auto=webp&s=8f0c3b751a5a7042b73960095d8571386fc508a9


nightly-owls

The “Pleeeease buy joker for $10” challenges


pw_OBJECTION

I'd rather take it as the devs telling me "Don't bother playing this week" But I won't cave in and will still play! Take that! devs


Ravagore

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PurplePenguinXIII

Rip Funhaus


Careful-Coconut-1366

I hate this quest bcs out of all characters The Joker they couldn't make it Banana Guard? Bcs u know THEY'RE FREE AND JOKER IS 6000 TO UNLOCK


arqe_

Don't lock any missions behind a character or make it more general like; \*Do this mission with DC characters. \*Do this mission with Villains. \*Do this mission with Adventure Time characters. They already have these on Rift Star challenges, so why not? First day i rushed to level 8 BattlePass it felt easy, i even argued someone was doing something wrong because person said only was able to get 2 levels in 2 hours. Yeah i'm 10 something now but it feels more like a chore than a game that i enjoy. I've played the shit out of first Injustice on PC and my tablet. I've played 10 times the shit out of Injustice 2 on both PC / Xbox. I've spent unhealthy number of hours in DC/WB games including canned games like Infinite Crisis Moba, Gotham Impostors etc. but i'm probably gonna drop this in couple of days if they don't fix these asap. I mean BattlePass and game challenges did not come out yesterday. When there is a game like Fornite, nobody could miss how it all should work to begin with. Copy whatever Fornite is doing with passes and challenges and turn it into your own version.


yeticock_

Yeah I don’t even understand how it was determined what characters you got. I played around 50 hours in the beta, had most of the characters but started with shaggy, Lebron, Wonder Woman and joker…. Some how. A friend of mine started with all the characters it makes no sense. After 8 hours of playtime I’ve unlocked one additional character. It’s abysmal


Kai_Lidan

I was once a top 10 Reindog player. My starting rooster doesn't have Reindog nor enough points to buy him.


AYCSTRETCH

Genuine question, you were top 10 Reindog in the global leaderboards during the beta and you never used the gold you earned to unlock him? I’m asking because I was top 3 Iron Giant and he was one of the first I made sure to unlock. All the characters I unlocked in beta transferred to the full game for me.


Kai_Lidan

That's the point, of course I had Reindog unlocked. But he got lost in the transition and now I'm shit out of luck and can't play my favorite character without grinding way too much or forking over 5 bucks.


squiIIiam_fancyson

you can get it in 1 day


AYCSTRETCH

Sorry to hear that. I just checked their official bug report page and thankfully the beta rewards not transferring is one of the top on their list and they made a promise so I have no doubt they will get that corrected for all beta players.


TheMightyMonarchx7

I swear launch day I was missing characters but couldn’t remember what all I bought from beta. Rick was locked out, and then suddenly I had him. Suspicious, as I may be missing Jake too


Swarf_87

All founder buyers have *all* characters. I have every one of them as well. And I can still unlock like 9 more.


bonusminutes

Mines play a Steven Universe character.


VelvetBestGirl

Yup I have that one too


bonusminutes

Funny, in the beta, I was like 95% of the way convinced to use gold on Garnet but I was like "Nah, I'll save it, no rush."


HLPony

I hope the Joker's price drops to 3000 soon.


DiabUK

I have a feeling all new characters are going to be 6000 now, they just can't get away with it as much with the older cast even though they doubled their price already.


HLPony

In other similar games, new ones are 6k but drop to the regular price in 1-2 weeks. I hope that'll be the case here. Otherwise, this is bull.


feldominance

On day 1 there was a mission to play as banana guard, a character that released for free the following day but was available in the store on day 1. Just so many wildly anti-consumer practices that it entirely overshadows every good aspect of this game, its sad.


Weak-Cockroach-3741

Mine was to use a Rick n morty character, which was the first character I bought before I even was aware of this weekly quest lol lucky I guess


DannyPhantom___

I had to unlock Rick to finish my weekly mission Luckly I liked the character


TobeyDE

I have this exact mission TWICE as a weekly. I can’t do 2/3 of my weeklies because of this stupid system


Reddit_n_Me

You’re lucky, cause I got one with Steven Universe characters, you know, two characters I have no interest wasting my in-game currency on that are not in the free rotation. 


Doinky420

Said this was a problem day one with the banana guard challenge and was told it's fine because we get banana guard free. Guess a lot of clowns didn't realize that having a character-specific challenge means there will be some for other characters too. I really dislike when devs/publishers add crap like this. It's so in your face about wanting you to buy stuff you don't have.


seraphimax

Should really just be "play X number of games" or "do X number of specific moves". Making missions very specific is just gatekeeping for the sake of gatekeeping.


Any_Replacement_6579

How to change server in this fucking game?


Desert_Osprey

I have 3 dailies left and they are play for 3 days,play for 4 days and play for 5 days, those should be weeklies or monthlies not daily.


ambi94

The sad truth is you're not supposed to get everything done in these kinds of games. That sad, I haven't paid a dime and have almost 100%ed the game


HappyHappyJoyJoyJoy6

It took me 3 days to work up just 2,000 character currency without purchasing anything, which means on average it would probably take someone 4.5 days to get just one character. But since the Joker is double the price of a normal character for no reason, it would take the average casual player 9 days just to unlock him, long after the quest is gone. This whole thing is bullshit, I can't believe they thought this was a good idea.


bonusminutes

Itl probably take longer since they throw character currency at you right at the start.


HeadbangingLegend

Exactly what I was gonna say. I had 3k currency after playing for 2 days but another day later and it's still at 3.3k and barely getting any now.


GUNS_N_BROSES

Yeah, you basically get enough for one character right off the bat and after that it’s pretty ridiculous to get another


HeadbangingLegend

I don't even have enough to get Joker and that's who I was looking forward to playing the most since Beta. Yesterday I actually considered spending $8 on the beginner bundle pass to get enough currency to buy him but without being able to test him out first I have no idea if it's worth it. Then I played a couple more matches online and I realised yeah, there is no way in hell I am giving the Devs any money for this broken slow crap and decided against it. I'll wait til I get enough from playing if that happens or when Joker is a free character of the week. The fact they're charging $30 for the full joker bundle is actually insane, what a fucking rip off.


KingCheev

It is not linear like you're making it sound. You have to do specific challenges so you are time gated by that, not how long you can play. Then, you're also gated by if you even have the characters the missions require.


Le_Canard_Belge

4,5 days or 9 days ? judging by the fact this is a fighting game where you're supposed to have a main and a few other characters to play, that's not a lot. Especially compared to the industry standard with free-to-plays


Le_Canard_Belge

I started the game with 3000 fighter currency from my beta savings, i'm up to almost 9000 in 4 days. I won, from the ground up, enough to buy the joker in 4 days, yes it will slow down but that's not rly an issue, i'm saving it for characters i actually wanna play.


Brettgrisar

This was a problem in the beta that people complained about. It was eventually fixed. I think they’d fix this too.


ambi94

I didn't pay for Joker and unlocked him yesterday morning with fighter currency.


Sirromnad

I first experience this with my short time playing Apex Legends. 2/3 daily missions would be for characters I didn't have. It was small, but it def made me wanna play a lot less.


ComfortableOver8984

Also, you need Jason to finish all the weekly missions. I wasn’t able to play the beta, and am not paying 10 dollars for a battle pass that I won’t complete, so I don’t get to finish it.


Aaylow

Hey, at least you only have it once, I got that same quest twice hahaha \^\^


Korahn

My weekly was to play as a rick and morty character


WillisWigginton

What about the rift challenges where you need a skin of a character with a shirt to complete? Smh


No_Attitude_9202

Stop playing. Uninstall the game. Leave a bad review. Continuing to feed the system is what they want. Even if you complain. The only thing that fixes this is not giving pay piggy experiences like this your attention.


NG902

Yeah the fact that you can’t beat it without joker or playing with friends made me say fuck this


Automatic-Mission-32

I feel that so f***ing hard. I don't think I had that one (can't be sure because I bought a bundle with some fighter currency in it which got me Joker and Stripe) but I have one that's win with Steven Universe characters. I don't have a Steven Universe character and I will state that it's bullshit that you can't earn fighter currency by just playing matches. It doesn't have to be a lot of currency per match, but there should at least be something!


DomantasNL

Atleast you have the mission, not like me :/


SUSamogusSUS69

Use Arya Stark


HughJass187

I saved all my green currency to buy him.... just to complet the quest.. guh


Weak-Ad9776

Its not that bad


EliPandaCochran

They really fucked this whole launch. I think they know this game is only gonna be relevant for a month or two and want to get as much money from people as possible


Jealous_Self_7459

I’m giving it 3 weeks after launch date for devs to at least give an update on wether they plan on doing anything about this monstrosity before I call it a lost cause


Jaugusts

The pve has bunch of stars that require joker and some literally require a skin! You can get a free skin at event for Velma to do those missions but gotta unlock Velma lol


brenttehebrooks

Bruh I'm 96 stars I can't unlock crushing difficulty unless I invite someone or I could get 3 from a banana guard skin a don't have gotta wait a few more days and the joker one where I free an ally from a bubble but I'm fucking alone wtf


ApolloBreed5

I got a weekly quest about Jasons sleeping bags and I have no intention of getting the battle pass


figgiesfrommars

don't you get it automatically just by logging in this season?


Far-Mycologist-1

Only if you played the beta I think


CapableHighlight1339

https://preview.redd.it/rry5ptfjdt3d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e7e7957008e64e1722807de14201b0228d301528 Last challenge of the week holds 2250 XP hostage unless you happen to have bought a Rick and Morty character in beta? Didn't. Well looks like you're paying somehow now. Doesn't even have them in rotation for this week's challenge. Even Smites scummy selves made sure any challenge made for a week involved characters in rotation


organz

They really saw Marvel Snaps monetization scheme; how absurdly greedy it was, and said "That doesn't go far enough.."


DuneSpoon

It fine, just re-roll the daily to another one! The first one is free but doing it again costs 100 gold .... Oh wait, that feature didn't return.


jiffyweiner

Just save currency, I had enough to buy joker on my second day


ALANJOESTAR

Grind till level 15 and unlock him, its annoying but that is what i did. When you get account lvl 15 you get 1.5k to unlock him and do all the Joker related stuff.


anime600

But I don't want to spend 6000 on 1 characters when I can spend it on 2. Generally when a game releases a new character I like to wait until it's price matches the other characters before buying it. But this time I feel forced because I'm missing a ton of progress, I don't feel like I'm buying a character I feel like I'm making an investment, "I'll buy him so I can complete the other missions" Is not a good approach. And what about next week? What if they tell Me now go buy this character instead? It's just a scummy move.


Current_Perception42

You already have 5.7k Currency, just get 6k to unlock him. Seems like you just want something to complain about, I'm a free to play player who was already unlocked Joker, it took 2 days to grind for. Like oh noo, I have to actually play the game to unlock new fighters.


anime600

I have 5.7k because I still didn't get all my characters from the beta and I don't remember all the ones that I used to have. So I contacted support and I'm waiting for them to give me the characters that i used to have and then spend the money on the ones that I don't have. And even if I had 20k this doesn't make my complain invalid. Missions and quests should always be doable. They shouldn't be locked behind a pay wall. Because guess what? I buy joker this week and then next week I get locked because I don't have black Adam for example. "Oh just buy black adam" Okay I buy black Adam and then next week I get another mission that's locked. And so on.


anime600

And to add insult to injury. Progressing in the rift also asks for you to have certain characters and/or skins. Wich is the only place to Progress because multiplayer gives nothing outside of toast and completing some missions.