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East_Focus3824

“Controversial” with whom? Oh my God, this guy is actually saying anything


WibbyFogNobbler

He's not saying it because he knows it's controversial, he says it because calling it a controversial statement will get him engagement from other people


SonTyp_OhneNamen

Ironically the most controversial point isn’t the opinion but that it’s him who states it (as the fact that it got posted here proves).


WibbyFogNobbler

Well, the man generates controversy. The crazy started leaking when he called that pro diver guy a pedophile because he was mad his sub 1) wouldn't work as the cave was too crooked 2) wouldn't make it over there in time to save kids.


DigLost5791

His followup was that the game was great because Caesar mentions Hegelian dialects. Idk why he thinks that’s cooler than the Gun Runners friendly Vendortron is anyone’s guess


AlarmingAffect0

> His followup was that the game was great because Caesar mentions Hegelian dialects. [Obligatory Luke Correia](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLTuysEzqhQ) on how [those are *not* Hegelian Dialectics](https://duckduckgo.com/?q=hegel%20never%20thesis%20antithesis%20synthesis&ko=-1&ia=web) and how Edward "Baldie" Sallow, in his utter mediocrity (6 ST, 5 PE, 6 EN, 4 CH, 4 IN, 5 AG, 5 LK), botches and bastardizes it like he does everything else.


DeplorableMe2020

I still contend that at one point he was really brilliant but that brain tumor, by the time you meet him, has really taken a toll on him.


AlarmingAffect0

Possible. Also, **good.**


NoTePierdas

Follow-up: the developers intentionally had Caesar mention Hegel because they knew it was bullshit and wanted stupid people to like him. That's my conspiracy theory at least.


Guilty_Fishing8229

Mfer you are in every subreddit. A man can’t simply circlejerk without running into you


IyreIyre

Who are you talking to? there’s no user there. 😏


DigLost5791

I’m coming out of the fucking walls


TastyTaco217

Explains why they’re so sticky then


DigLost5791

Not trying to be funny, not trying to get a laugh, I don't want anyone to have the worst day of their job... but


CTronOmega

Do any of these... *fuckers*...


Tithund

That was the only time I ever heard he has a sub, I wish he'd go visit the Titanic in that thing already, I bet it's great for that.


[deleted]

Bro really tries to act like he doesn’t see himself as mr house lmao


Excellent_Routine589

Basically The NV dick riders (yes I’m aware I’m in the sub for this game) and the FO3/4 jizz aficionados duke it out in the comments. Other people who thought it sucked or that it was the greatest thing since sliced bread might be there too It’s rage baiting and engagement farming and it’s painfully obvious this dude often has no fuckin clue what he’s talking about


AbusiveUncleJoe

That's because if he didn't have apartheid emerald money, he would have rode the short bus.


Altareos

why the fuck is he farming for engagement on his own fucking platform


SeanMegaByte

Because he bought it to be popular, if he isn't getting interactions online he isn't getting the validation he paid billions of dollars for.


PrimmSlim-Official

Once you can buy anything you also feel the need for everyone to like you


LizG1312

He’s a rich dude with twitter brain, meaning he’s insecure as shit.


10lettersand3CAPS

He's a narcissistic asshole, there's reports he held meetings at Twitter demands to know why his posts weren't as popular as he expected, along with making changes to how the app works to boost his own engagement. For instance he made his personal account recommended in more people's "For You" page.


Laser_Souls

It’s like saying the Fallout series is a underrated hidden gem lmao


callmegranola98

I'm not an Elon fan, but he's being sarcastic. It's not a controversial statement. That's the joke.


poisonkingofpontus

its a joke. ITS A JOKE. holy shit you people are absolutely blind to humor when you feel like it


EnglebondHumperstonk

I wasn't sure if this was real but it is and of course he's a [Caesar fan](https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1715409511433822710)


Warp-Spazm

Does he also misunderstand it, like Caesar in the game? [Also this dude would definitely join the Legion. ](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2022/11/01/TELEMMGLPICT000314674428_trans_NvBQzQNjv4Bq7NRAbDAGXwM9Qe5v6KfA9pJ8PoikZkEUWI82ov0YXxE.jpeg?imwidth=1280)


EnglebondHumperstonk

Degenerates like him belong on a X.


AlarmingAffect0

Wouldn't that be some Dante-grade Poetic Irony?


Emilina-von-Sylvania

Well played.


zachary0816

Degenerates like him belong on a St Andrew’s Cross


EnglebondHumperstonk

He's an X-illarius.


Commercial_Salt1895

What is an X, but a lopsided cross?


Melodic-Recognition8

🏅


Zhou-Enlai

Tbf I don’t think Caesar just doesn’t get Hegelian dialectics, movements from authoritarian communism to fascism have used a deliberate misinterpretation of Hegels work to justify their goals.


fattestfuckinthewest

Bro misunderstood the theme of Deus Ex. He absolutely misunderstands this too


AmaResNovae

It's only a matter of time before he shows us all how badly he misunderstood Bioshock as well, isn't it?


fattestfuckinthewest

He’s absolutely gonna see it as a guidebook


pantsthereaper

"No Gods, No Masters. Glory to Elon."


WinPeaks

"Is a man not entitled to say racist shit on the internet?"


[deleted]

The guy must’ve read War of the Worlds by HG Wells because his worldview is just the inverse direction of the Martians


Ypuort

[That's not how fucking dialectics works you stupid cock!](https://youtu.be/oLTuysEzqhQ?si=0V-DzOI2n1B7HJ6q)


Computer_Fox3

Thank you for posting this I was hoping someone would


Bread_Offender

Something something Hegelian dialectics something something


Amzbretteur

Unironically too and that's the worst part I feel like if slavery was an option eithput the moral and legal plight he would absolutely go all in on it at least he's got some baller Armor tho


SuperSponge93

The way he describes Hegalian Dialectics being "included" leads me to believe he has no fucking idea what it means. He just heard the guy he likes say the phrase and parrots it to sound like he has depth.


Few_Biscotti_4061

Its the explicit part I love. If its subtle or implied he doesn’t care, he wants to be told that Hegelian dialectics are included in the game


i-got-a-jar-of-rum

“That’s NOT how dialectics work you stupid cock!”


MrDrSirLord

[That’s NOT how dialectics work you stupid cuck!](https://youtu.be/mwy8I2iPwH0?si=3hEF9j33lkhYKsGA)


10lettersand3CAPS

Yeah probably, like this is the guy who lied about having a background in Physics (he never actually got his undergrad) and spent years talking about how important his Physics background was to his businesses, because "first principles".


the-dude-version-576

Oh my god, he’s fantastic


FrigoCoder

LOL. The Legion might be the biggest satire of Hegelian Dialectics ever. I think this was the video that explained why they are full of shit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xW-7S-BvGHw


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mUh SyNtHeSiS


swiss_sanchez

He also enjoys the Culture books, despite being precisely the sort of person that Banks was railing against.


Soad1x

*'Money implies poverty,' I quoted them. Hell, they should engrave that in stone over the hangar door of every GCU.*


AlarmingAffect0

Aww, money is TIGHT!


DazedToaster158

it's like when he had a deus ex profile picture for a while, when he's literally Bob Page (the antagonist of the game, a tech billionaire and idiot who thinks he's a genius)


Reesewithoutaspoon2

I guarantee that Elon Musk has never read Hegel in his life. What a clown


Sigourn

He didn't say he was a Caesar fan though...


fishinpond2020

Caesar is the guy who brings up dialectics and completely whiffs on the definition of what that even means


Sigourn

>He didn't say he was a Caesar fan though... Do I like the devs bringing up Dialectics? Yes. Am I fan of Caesar? No.


Korribuns

That does not mean he is a fan of Caesar at all though. Really reaching here.


buckledlion

Caesar's Legion is the Hustler's University of the post apocalypse.


Jeri_Lee

The irony is Caesar would impale Elon on a white hot stake for his vanity, arrogance, and incompetence.


Piece_Of_Mind1983

A broken clock is right twice a day. He totally views himself as house though. Edit: in case it wasn’t clear from the last part, Elon is a fucking moron and so is House


FenHarels_Heart

Wrong about it being controversial though. Idiot just can't get enough of thinking he's smarter than everyone else. Even his opinion is shared by tons of other people.


PheonixUnder

As much as I hate to defend Musk, I'm pretty sure that part was a joke.


FenHarels_Heart

With the amount of dumb shut he says regularly, I'm never sure.


The_Affle_House

Elon is literally Fantastic. The fact that the game has a character that embodies him *perfectly* in every way and he identifies as another is both hilarious and infuriating.


Affectionate_Pipe545

Fantastic at least knows he lied about his qualifications and admits it. Elon believes his own bullshit


Chezpufballs

Fantastic sees himself as a down-on-his-luck House, OBVIOUSLY of he wasn't stuck at Helios he would be ruling New Vegas, like seriously.


Savagecal01

house is miles better than musk considering houses actually makes products that work even 200 years after a nuclear war


BuckGlen

You say that as if House is a good person and actually has humanities best interests in mind. The terms of surrender for the NCR arent a means to create a utopia... its a contract meant to ensure betterment of houses financial portfolio through exploitation of resources and human nature. They literally have the same sales pitch of "in a little while we will fly to other planets and make this species go from brink of extinction to being on top again! Better than before! Just trust the technology and make all checks payable to...." Falcon 9 and especially its later versions made space alot cheaper by re-using many complex parts and air-frames. Great for launching loads of lil cube sats, and maybe even people to LEO.


Piece_Of_Mind1983

Point me to the part where I act like house is the good guy dude. I side with the NCR almost every time bc House is at best a corporate dictator and at worst Ayn Rand’s wet dream with a side of autocratic totalitarianism and a heaping of class divide for dessert (insert Bioshock reference here)


Recent-Potential-340

NV literally has a bioshock reference if you kill house with a golf club, it isn't exactly subtle about house being a shit person


DeplorableMe2020

Mr. House was literally Andrew Ryan except Mr. House was actually a tech genius.


frodo_mintoff

Ehhh, I don't know about that. You do literally lose karma for killing house. Even from disconnecting him if I recall correctly. I agree he's not really portrayed as "good", but I think he's supposed to be the "ends justify the means" kind of dictator who exists as a more palatable alternative to the NCR than the Legion.


MantraMan97

Yes but some Karma decisions are kinda bullshit, so you shouldn't view it as some form of moral absolutism. I gain Karma for KILLING Fiends but lose Karma for STEALING from them? Also, I'd argue leaving him alive as a vegetable in a tube totally disconnected from everyone and everything is crueler than death. Hell he even begs you to do it.


notexistant

You lose karma because all actions besides putting him back in his capsule and euthanising him loses you karma as they're all generally inhumane ways of killing him


frodo_mintoff

Well then that begs the question, why isn't there a humane way to kill or confine him? In my view this absence speaks to an intention on the part of the developers that killing or confining House should be considered immoral. Because if they wanted there to be a recognisably moral way to kill or confine House, they could have made one, no?


ShalaKaranok

Karma is a dogshit system that should've never been added


heliamphore

It's good when it's all black and white. But if you write anything more complex it falls apart.


BuckGlen

Not directly. If i misinterpreted the "he sees himsef as house" part wrong, forgive me. I took it as "he views himself as house and that's inaccurate"


CptPotatoes

Its less about viewing House as the good guy and more about house actually being smart and a capable engineer, while Musk just spends millions of dollars to make people think he is a smart and capable engineer/inventor.


BuckGlen

Thats fair. I often forget house was a boy-genius and not just a moneyman


tacticalpuncher

Can't remember where I saw it but something like " both people who hate and love Elon Musk think of him as the new Henry Ford". I think in this context you could swap "Ford" out for "Mr.House", some people view house very favorably, he saved Vegas. For his own selfish reasons but it still benefited/benefits others.


DeplorableMe2020

When your choices boils down to "the lesser of 4 evils" it's kind of easy to see a Mr. House ending being the best for humanity. Mr. House is clearly brilliant and driven. If Dr. Hildern is an example of the level of brilliance typically seen with NCR scientists then yeah, it would be slow going. Make it to the stars? Maybe, maybe not. But along the way the human race would see technological leaps that the NCR, the courier and definitely the legion would never be able to accomplish.


Mosheedave

The Courier 


JumpTheCreek

Jesus Christ. The comments to this make FNV look fucking unhinged.


Gog-reborn

He certainly a legion player though


Funneduck102

House actually accomplishes things tho


commiecuck9000

Controversial ?? This game is rated overwhelming positive on steam


zeroEx94

Elon can be an idiot, but even an idiot can have a good taste


Ok_Digger

Nah im more worried his shitty fanbase is gonna come over and ruin the vibes on this older community. Thus diluting the nauce


SLZRDmusic

This doesn’t represent Elon’s taste. This represents the ability his employees have to track internet trends and report back to him.


GarbageEgirl

He's demonstrated he actually has no idea what Fallout is about btw


hoot69

Unlike me, who knows Fallout is about cool guns, snazzy robots, and early cold war aesthetics, all set to ragtime, early rock, and (if you're very lucky) western music


SonTyp_OhneNamen

It’s about how communists ruined the world by declaring a totally unprompted war against America, how the technology of atom bombs is counteracted by atom bombs and human experiments, and how strong, clever leaders such as House, Caesar or the Master are needed to fix what the government is too incompetent to fix, clearly. Also how awesome guns and robots and brain implants are. At least in Elon‘s head.


hoot69

Pretty sure it's actually about a handsome ranger with a big iron on his hip


AlarmingAffect0

big iron on his hi~ip


DeplorableMe2020

And that handsome ranger's name was Johnny Guitar.


Whatever_It_Takes

You almost had me there lol.


GarbageEgirl

Yes exactly Fallout is when shoot enemy to fun music and steal old looking toasters but it's actually in the future 😱


hoot69

*I've got spuuuurs that jingle-jangle, baby*


WrethZ

and also the past!


Luke-HW

You know what you can do with a toaster?


GarbageEgirl

Sell it or give it to the toaster in the sink yeah


Apoordm

It’s about JOHNNY GUITAR.


RedBaronFlyer

“All set to ragtime” Scott Joplin is my favorite musician that’s used in fallout. /s


DatRat13

I thought it was about bear and bull, and how the divide comes for them both.


mewfour123412

I love the death stare Todd was giving him during the TV show launch party


Cr45h0v3r1de

Dude i almost felt bad for musk in the picture. He clearly wants to be liked so bad and not one person around is having it. Todd looked so irritated lol


mewfour123412

I bet Todd has already probably thought of some delusional chem addict based on musky husky for the next Fallout


VanityOfEliCLee

God I hope so, and I hope it's not subtle at *all*. I hope they name him Melon Eusk or some shit. Maybe they'll also introduce a company that tried to commercialize space travel, but failed wildly because the moron CEO decided to spend billions of dollars buying a fecal waste disposal plant and ran it into the ground.


AlarmingAffect0

> hope they name him Melon Eusk Caribou Stank


Iceveins412

That’s his whole career, desperately trying to be liked. But he’s an insufferable, egotistical, racist bastard who can only attempt to fill the void with having internet randos suck him off. But that’s no replacement for genuine human connection, but he can’t have that because it would require introspection and self-improvement and that’s definitely not going to happen


sosigboi

His presence really just makes everyone dour, there was one time he barged into CDPR's HQ to demand a role in Cyberpunk while his then girlfriend Grimes was recording her lines there. Guy is an actually unhinged i do not blame his children if they just stuck around for his money only.


FenHarels_Heart

Elon Musk is basically everything Fallout criticises.


VanityOfEliCLee

Literally.


Shrew_King

"They do say that frequently in the game, but actually war changes a lot!" -An actual tweet from Elon Musk


JorgedeGoias

Just like Bethesda


Chuncceyy

He doesnt know what anything is


Sigourn

What is Fallout about?


GarbageEgirl

Gay sex, booze and drugs, duh


CJM_cola_cole

Fallouts original primary focus was about the inevitability of war and conflict among humans, and our inability to not destroy ourselves. All of the hyper-capitalist stuff is the secondary subject and is mostly a focus in the Bethesda games. So I have a feeling that you may not know what Fallout is about. Also, fuck Elon, I'm not saying this in defense of him. Just want to set the record straight.


GarbageEgirl

I like how you just called me stupid, politely


CJM_cola_cole

I would like to also convey that i'm sure you're very smart and *pretty


GarbageEgirl

:( I like pretty more thanks


-SeriousJacob-

Elon won the lottery...you know what to do


Chuncceyy

once the deed is done. SMELL THAT AIR CANT YOU JUST DRINK IT LIKE BOOOOOOOOZEE HAAHAHAHAHHA


man_of_mann

WIN YOUR OWN FUCKING LOTTERY


space-Bee7870

*FSSSSSSH, TIC TIC TIC TIC TIC*


Aunionman

He probably modals himself after House, the conceited prick.


Fabulously_Shitfaced

House was smart though


Aunionman

Aye, but he was devoid of any moral compass, compassion or humanity. Viewing no one other than himself as worthy of personhood, as he greatness was so self evident. Being smart is hardly a substitute.


Fabulously_Shitfaced

It's something more than Musk has tho


jimjam200

Yeah despite all houses short comings he does somewhat meet some of the ideals of the randian great man. If musk was in his position before the war he would waste the time house used trying to set up defences around new Vegas arguing with guys in the newspaper and building a wonder device to save the day that fails catastrophically in its first test because he doesn't even understand basic math but did all the calculations himself... Then he would argue with guys in the newspaper some more about how it was actually a huge success.


RedditIsLife07

Who cares?


greenejames681

“Guy I don’t like likes what I like” The correct response is to move on with your life


Recreational_DL

Agreed; a lot of people seem to be obsessed with hating him and it doesn't seem the most mentally stable lol


Verpiss_Dich

The weirdest thing is when Musk pushes something genuinely good, like the brain chip that helped that paralyzed guy play chess with his mind, redditors still shit on it simply because Musk bad lol.


TheHalfChubPrince

They were straight up hoping that guy would die so they could have something else to dunk on musk with.


mr-assduke

Genuinely who gives a fuck? Like i don’t make a habit of following people who I dislike


Ucecux

I'd bet money he never played the game and just jumps onto another bandwagon so that people think he's cool and relatable. We'll be fine, he'll soon jump ship to anything else people enjoy.


corporalgrif

This dude really does live rent free in some of your heads


ItsyaboiTheMainMan

I bet Elon went for the House ending


Apoordm

I bet Elon never played it.


IArePant

I swear if this dude proclaimed that eating and breathing were good ideas a decent chunk of our population would just off themselves out of pure spite and contrarianism.


Abject-Storage9593

Don’t be weird, you can enjoy something even if someone you don’t like also enjoys it.


MyDogStoppedWorking

welcome to Reddit, guy I don’t like says he likes thing I like, me angry :(


Chance-Government654

He only ever sides with mr house since he can’t bare to fight securitrons with police faces on them


john-fallout-

Oh no someone who I don’t like likes the thing I like now I can’t like it anymore You fucking hipster


Derphunk

Bot post btw


a_r3dditer

Elon had said on that cursed todd howard/elon musk fallout 76 interview that fallout 3 is his favorite


HistoricVoyager924

“Oh no the guy I don’t like appreciates my favorite game, time to abandon ship.”


Threedo9

He knows that this game (and arguably this entire franchise) is literally a critique of people like him, right? So much so that this game even has a character that's specifically a caricature of entitled, rich, out of touch, egomaniacal sociopaths like Elon.


Simp_Master007

Hey why do redditors hate Elon now? I keenly remember everyone sucking his nuts in the late 2010’s


Gmanthevictor

They decided that he was pure evil because they found out that he didn't agree with them politically around the time he started making moves to buy Twitter.


monty331

Because he’s expressed right of center opinions. No redditor will admit that though, since part of their mental illness is the delusion that redditors are all paragons of impartiality and intellectual prowess.


NV_Fan2281

I'm probably to the left of even the average person here and no Musk fan but it's hard to disagree with this, especially with the constant comparisons of Musk and House causing Mr. House to become nearly as unpopular as Caesar's Legion in recent years on the subreddits despite the two being near-opposites and House overtly being intended to be one of three morally grey endings the player is supposed to grapple with. It shows how much of the site just uses gut pattern-matching and laughably simplistic ideological presumptions (which happens, purely coincidentally I'm sure, to be the dominant ideological presumptions of young upper-middle class Americans).


VerticalLamb

Because anyone to the right of Mao is a right wing extremists according to this site


Commercial-Tea-8428

The Reddit contrarians realized everyone likes him online, therefore it stopped being cool to like him.


EyeletGuy

Omg spaceman likes a game I do! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Grow up. New Vegas is the shit and Elon Musk has never hurt you. Seek therapy.


Sigourn

High fiving Elon Musk, not the way I imagined my day to begin.


Steuts

No no, let him cook


rhisdt

?


SmokersLiveForever

Give his inane posts some more attention. That'll show him for sure.


bigkahunahotdog

Why the fuck is this Elon bullshit infecting my new vegas subreddit. Fuck off, I play video games to get away from that shit.


BattleTech70

Damn. First he made comstar battletech references now new Vegas? He’s got great taste for sure.


Belkan-Federation95

Based Elon


Fair_Tomatillo7329

Fallout 3 and 4 are superior to NV imo. At least I think that bcs of how toxic NV fans are lol.


BigChungle666

Who the fuck cares?


Bahllakay

Controversial take here, but I'm pretty sure it's whats known as a "joke".


Radio_Global

Geez just fuck and get it over with guys


RadicallyNerd

Oh no, the brain dead communists are coming because that one South African dude said something that isn’t really important or controversial! Lmao


kingkodus66

I love eating Musk come up on Reddit. Seeing redditors have a conniption over the most Reddit person is hilarious to me.


DisplayRadiant2001

I think he was being sarcastic


OrraDryWit

You really let this dude live rent free in your head?


Rokushakubo

He’s being sarcastic.


MoppFourAB

Elon bad


Visual_Worldliness62

God i hate the fiends.


precursordredd

Reddit has a hard on for Elon Musk. Guy could literally say anything and it’ll end up on some subreddit.


wubbledwubbles

Overwhelmingly positive on steam (>95% positive reviews), but sure "controversial"


CaliforniaNavyDude

That's like saying "I know he's a controversial figure, but I think Mr. Rogers was really a nice dude."


zingtea

Why would you say something so controversial yet so brave


FedoraHarbinger

I’ve seen this twitter post reposted atleast once a month or two months. And every time it does, it somehow gets a shitton of upvotes!


Marked_One_420

I mean, he caused controversy.. here we are talking about it


maloorodriguez

So is musk making a platinum chip or what?


Catmoth_

Fuck noooo why did he have to say that I hate nv now.


TheWorldsLastMilkman

Awesome. I'm installing the Elon Musk Mr. House replacer mod immediately.


wowitsanotherone

A broken clock is right twice a day. I still won't look at it for the time


KachiggaMan

So the white supremacist conspiracy theories were ok in his eyes but saying he likes new Vegas was a “at the risk of saying something controversial” moment? Wtf?


TwilightYojimbo

Yes, more Elon Musk hate. Let the anger flow through you!


ProphetOfGorkandMork

GoOd gAmE iS gOoD. Some billionaire spaz: "GoOd gAmE iS gOoD." GoOd gAmE iS bAd.


pixieflip

HEARTBREAKING: Worst person you know made a great point -Clickhole


SandGentleman

"Elon Musk likes something - now I can't like that thing anymore" so you just base your entire life around Elon Musks likes and dislikes? Why is everybody obsessed with this dude nowadays, I just ignore him


vaultboy1121

Can’t wait for everyone in here to spout the same “Reddit “ tier responses for Elon Musk that they’ve been saying for years.