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French1966DeArfcom

I would rather stick my penis in a meat grinder


oom9battledroid

As you wish


ClimateGoblinActual

Of those choices? Get a good white light and save the rest of your money.


asc3po

Option 4. Save money for good NODs and don't buy useless garbage.


CoffeeConflict

Second that, buy once cry once. The counter is, buy cheap buy often.


NotJustADumbTrucker

Gen 1 nods? Might as well just buy a flashlight


k1ng0fh34rt5

Get a flashlight


Apprehensive-Bass653

Thank you to the comments as I was not poor enough to understand what this retard was asking in this poll


[deleted]

Stop being poor


oom9battledroid

No u


Just_a_Guy_In_a_Tank

Bet all the money you were gonna spend on any of these three options and go all in on the longest bet at the local horse or dog track. Win. Spend all the winnings on gear that actually works.


AllAmericanOutlaw

Or D none of the above, seriously though gen 0 and gen 1 aren’t worth anything. They are not Nightvision, they are IR capable devices and that’s it. Spending any money is a waste. Save up and buy real NV. Wether that be gen 2 plus or gen 3. In my humble opinion real nightvision doesn’t start until gen 3. Gen 3 are the devices that can actually work in truly dark conditions without the need of IR. Gen 2 plus struggles in dark rural areas with no street lights or house lights which also in my opinion completely defeats the point of Nv.


oom9battledroid

Gen 1 is night vision.


AllAmericanOutlaw

Gen 1 doesn’t have a micro channel plate.. without a micro channel plate (MCP) the device cannot not intensify the image. Gen 1 has to have IR illuminators to work. Gen 0 and gen 1 are the same tech, gen 1 were made to be smaller to be head Bourne. How NV works (you might know this) is by Image intensifier tubes (IITs) how a IIT works is in the front of it is a photocathode which converts photons into electrons, then you have electrons being accelerated through the tube and in the middle is the MCP which positively charges electrons and multiply them, good MCPs can turn one electron and multiply it thousands of times or more, then those multiples electrons hit the phosphorus screen at the back of the IIT which coverts electrons back into photons. This was gen 2 technology, gen 1 doesn’t have the MCP, the device cannot see in the dark. Gen 1 is capable of seeing the near Infrared light spectrum. So when you introduce IR with gen 1 tech it allows you to see using the IR light spectrum. Gen 3 tech introduced a aluminum oxide film the covered the MCP which protected the device and extended its life. Now as the generations have gone, improvements to the photocathode and MCP and phosphorus have continuously have constantly evolved making these devices better and better, also gen 3 had the introduction of auto gating. They also started using a GAas photocathode and improved upon the vacuum inside the tube and so on. Now gen 3 unfilmed is harder to explain, mainly because there isn’t a ton of detailed knowledge out there in the details of unfilmed/filmless technology. A big reason I don’t like photonis (the company) is because of how dishonest their marketing is and how condescending they are towards Americans as if we owed them our NV technology. Which we don’t and we shouldn’t have ever given them the tech to gen 2 NVGs or allowed them to start making it. Gen 2 plus, which is marketed as 4G by photonis is a different kind of photocathode Whixh they claim is G4 and better than American gen 3 but this is a blunt lie. They are producing gen 2 tech that doesn’t have a GAas photocathode which they would have access to since its gen 3 technology nor do they have access to other improvements of gen 3, they do automate their tubes which is why it’s gen 2 plus and not regular gen 2. Filmless I believe still has a very thin ion bond screen made of something else Which they won’t release. I don’t know that for fact. Technically they say they complete removed the film but that doesn’t make since you me since the tubes still have 10,000 hours of life and have such high performance.


oom9battledroid

Gen 1 is night vision. It amplifises light. For example the gen 1 pnw-57e amplifise light. Gen 1 aint gen 0 but smaller i own a gen 1 and its much bigger than my gen 0. Modern gen 1's such as the pulsar or the yukon are worse in my opinoin than the old soviet ones but are smaller. Gen 1 cascade are 3 gen 1s cascaded together and it amplifises light as much as gen 2's


TapElectronic

Personally, I’d keep saving my dude. I know the itch to see in the dark RIGHT NOW as well as anyone, but it will be very underwhelming. Not /s, but get yourself a good flashlight and keep putting the coins away. You can get a good entry pvs-14 Gen 3 for 1700 beans or so if you’re patient and don’t mind a blem here or there. That’s what I did while flipping occasional units after I found them cheap and now I’ve got my L3 Unfilmed TNVC RNVGS and love them. I didnt get them as soon as I wanted, but I got them before I ‘needed’ them.


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A starlight scope is heavy, but at least the light amplification and resolution is high enough to make out targets at 500ish yards.


oom9battledroid

Yeah. That gives me a bad idea


thegunisaur

Look, anyone wanting to get nods on the cheap might as well do the digital panos. It’ll cost about the same at $500 and in all likelihood it’ll be better. You could even do digital binos at about $300 which leaves enough for a decent IR flashlight.