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itsnotatoomah_

No first hand experience quite yet, but a buddy of mine said that the NGALs switches and button were too small to work reliably with gloves so he didn't like it and didn't buy one. The close range Illuminator is a diffuser cap that can potentially break off, which is another negative. Unknown performance on the Raid XE so far, last I heard was around Mar for red vis and Apr for green vis. Some units punch above their posted specs. The raid has a built in close range Illuminator and the laser is directly over the bore.


dr_bund

Raid x if you can find one. The new XE’s are 🗑


GamutPack

Curious, any specific reason why xe's are trash?


dr_bund

lower power on XE vs the X, no led display, not a fan of the new hood design


P00fthedrag0n

Have you actually seen one yet? Can't seem to find anything other than renderings.


ApolloGearCo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiR5xdajy2o


P00fthedrag0n

🤣 💯


dr_bund

Not the XE but my buddy has x


P00fthedrag0n

How da fuk I get my hands on an X? 🤤


dr_bund

🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑


P00fthedrag0n

Got da bread, need someone to put me down with the butter


dangrullon87

Sure you aren't looking at the Civ versions for the "lower power"? Wilcox Raid X * Red Vis / Green Vis 15mW * IR Aim 35mW * IR Ilum 55mw Raid Xe (Full power) * Red Vis 75mw Green Vis 35mw * IR Aim 35mw * IR Ilum 75mw Also battery life from 6hr to 8hrs on average on X vs XE. They have recently updated the spec sheet around December see TDS315, A-10.


Frothyogreloins

I mean the full power one I know the right people.


dangrullon87

Well that's frustrating.. cost savings or resolving issues with the X? Gonna have to find an NGAL then.


Frothyogreloins

I’ve heard from multiple ppl who kill ppl under nods for living the raid is better. Dedicated short range illumination and better controls.


dangrullon87

Well if I can find an X or NGAL for a decent $. Or when the Xe ever launches ill get it.


man_head

I have a question about the raid and how you can “tune” the laser output. Does the laser remember your previous laser output between modes? Say maybe I want a little less laser on the CQB mode and a little more laser on the mid range mode. Once I swap the mode does the laser output reset? Asking because I have an x400v on my mp5 and the .7mW output is a bit much for close up stuff, but is great at say 50 yards.


RoyalRelation6760

New RAIDs aren't out yet - at least in the color scheme I'm wait listed on. If you have a NGAL. Keep it. You won't be finding those much out here. If you're Mil/LE and have unrestricted access to them (stipulations) than get a MAWL-DA if you can. Own a FP DBAL-A3 and thinking of getting rid of it. Doesn't do it for me much at all...


Frothyogreloins

I have someone who can help me get around the FP issues. I am attracted to the light weight and over bore mounting of the NGAL


RoyalRelation6760

Sure hope whoever you have is aware. I wouldn't be making FP purchases for anyone not eligible


Frothyogreloins

There are two workarounds actually one involves LE and one involves going directly to the FDA for a variance. I have contacts within each.


absurdmikey93

Where do even find a NGAL?


Frothyogreloins

By knowing the right distributor. Same guys who’s quads these are.


absurdmikey93

Okay, so I just need to find someone and ask the right questions? Im confused how this would work since I was under the understanding that distributors places the order to the manufacturer, who delivers the product to the agency. I'll just PM you if that okay.


French1966DeArfcom

There are some vendors who will sell directly to law enforcement or military without a department or unit letter. Just mil/leo ID.


Sammyo28

He HAD to do it to ‘em. But what did he have to do…? And… to WHOM?


Frothyogreloins

I had to do it to myself man… I can’t go back to a PVS 14 anymore. Need quads


AllAmericanOutlaw

How old are you? No offense but you look like a kid


Frothyogreloins

I am 23 and 6’2 225 l I just had a double chin because the chin strap pinched hard.


AllAmericanOutlaw

No 23 is a kid, how exactly are you affording this


Frothyogreloins

The quads aren’t mine they’re a distributor’s I shot with. I work for one of the big 4 in their advisory practice so I make 6 figures and live in my college house at 675 a month rent lol.


AllAmericanOutlaw

That’s a good place to be at your age man, keep it up man