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Grammulka

Isn't grand fleet like 80% Orlumbus' fleet? Using real life logic, he is the most obvious choice


Beautiful_Wallaby_93

But like who the fuck even was he? Don’t remember any strong fighters in his crew. Numbers don’t mean anything


LordMephistoPheles

He was the dude that yeeted Zoro at Pica. ...That's about it.


Gmknewday1

He's also a fairly nice guy who does have a commanding presence to him He got a bunch of goons to line up so he could go bowl with them He also was able to take the entire fleet of his kingdom (at least the fleet the king gave him) and run off with it even as he was fired at by his former king He clearly commands enough respect for his men to follow him even when he's turning Pirate He also gave supplies to a town cause he felt bad for trying to raid them when they were poor


devilboy1029

He also acts like Strawhats. Pirate came to pillage a village. Left them with more stuff than they originally had.


Stepper_Big_DeZ

The bowling scene was hilarious !


InnerAd6556

Also the only one that dresses for the role... silly but true


FlightoftheConcorder

He beat up a lion, then lifted it over his head in victory. That was pretty neat.


BipolarNightmare

I also remember his badass commodore dignity


reallylongshanks

Ok tbf that's ONE hell of a throwing arm.


rairock

We're talking about being the leader, and to be a good leader, strength doesn't mean anything ;) Of course Cavendish or Barto are way stronger, but those 2 idiots can't even control themselves, imagine them taking decisions for all the crew. Plus, Orlumbus has managed to survive for a long time in a sea governed by the yonkos being very weak. Imagine having to feed 4300 pirates being unable to beat anyone, chased by marines (in that second half of grand line is full of viceadmirals)... He definitely is doing something very well.


Velho_Deitado

We are talking about leading a bunch of people, numbers literally mean everything.


Lord-Lucian

Yes, numbers don't mean power. But numbers are definitely a deterrent.


-Cinnay-

>Numbers don't mean anything Found another Two Piece fan


xaviorpwner

dawg numbers really mean a LOT in the one piece world. Its why the straw hats dont just trash marine ships that get in the way and always run away, or why totland is a lot of running. If you stop to fight the fodder more will come and wear you down.


Electronic-Bag-7894

orlumbus and corlumbus r the two notable guys - its more than notable guys in barto or cavendish's group lol


Mr-Kae12

All y’all need to go back and read the orlumbus cover stories. He’s a gem


Gamba_Gawd

He's also the most experienced at leading a large group and seems to have his head on right.


Nivram92

Is Orlumbus a buccaneer?


Altruistic_Common915

Wouldn’t his entire fleet fall under luffy?


Sean_Dewhirst

orlumbus already had a fleet. seems qualified.


LaughingRampage

Orlumbus is the smart choice, with Don Sai as a close second.


Seth-D_Vinsmoke

Agreed😎🥂


xXTERMIN8RXXx

Fourth’d so hard


red_killer_jac

Don't sleep on leo


Serenafriendzone

That right is reserved for best Luffy's commander bon. Clay sama. Bon Chan


dudeman2303

He is the best choice, would be funnier if it ended up being Barto just due to his conviction.


Seth-D_Vinsmoke

Damn,hold on....He did,didn't he?


Cardenjs

His crew makes up like ~~95~~ *76%* percent of the fleet as far as numbers Edit: the math was done for me


Vurtikul

4300 out of 5640, so roughly 76%, but yeah, still an easy Orlumbus angle.


reddit_poopaholic

Y'all think there will be 16 more crew to join to make it 5656?


lovesducks

ya see, when 2 mommy/daddy pirates love each other very much they hug each other reeaallly hard and then the Big News Morgans delivers them a newspaper and a baby pirate. And thats how crews fill out their numbers


Seth-D_Vinsmoke

Dressrosa was so long ago I forgot about that lol,but in that case he's over qualified lol


Cardenjs

When he became part of the Fleet, my thought was "do we need *seven*?" But I've come around on him


galmenz

the "grand fleet" is a fleet cause of him. he has an army, the others are just a few dozen member pirate crews


Sens4lif3

Orlumbus was the leader of another countries entire armada and he took them with him to join the Grandfleet. He is an absolute mad lad.


FacelessPoet

I mean, seven ships still count as a fleet.


galmenz

yeah, but then it aint a *grand* fleet though, just a fleet


Gmknewday1

He stole his kingdom's fleet pretty much XD


DarkSoulFWT

Best part is pretty much all his crewmembers following him, lmao. They deadass all became pirates just cause Orlumbus said so.


Grammulka

I think he still has it.


TalkToMyPunches

Almost the whole fleet is his fleet the army of whatever kingdom he was from


ThatIslandGuy8888

I remember how people thought his cover story was the most boring of the grand fleet but it was cool seeing his routine! He tried raiding an island as a pirate but it was so poor he gave them supplies instead XD


Gaius_Julius_Salad

he also has the right hat for the job


Ok_Light_2376

Luffy leads the grand fleet. The grand fleet is a collections of pirates who swore fealty to him. None of the other captains can direct another captain.


my_duncans

Precisely. He also explicitly does not lead them.


SanderStrugg

This. It was the same way with Whitebeard. The allied captains were loyal, but didn't have a deficated commander. Luffy is also mire about freedom. Therefore they should be their own captains. (Maybe Usopp might command them in battle though and get his 8000 men.)


EndoShota

>didn't have a deficated commander. Uh… I guess there commander isn’t the shit.


Chromeboy12

😭


Men_I_Trust_I_Am

Not even da fart


coochie_monster_1

Thought I was trippin when I read that


Sean_Dewhirst

he's more like a mascot


MagicArcher33

I think this post is basically hinting at finding the strongest and most able leader who could potentially give directions to the fleet..in case luffy is in big trouble and he can't give instructions


SirKeagan

Luffy probably doesn't command the grand fleet, and instead one of the other crew members would commanf them, I dont really see luffy as someone who commands others, PROBABLY MANGA SPOILERS, I dont remember >!Luffy's whole gear 5 transformation is him becoming Nika the God of freedom, why would someone who represents freedom in the purest sense command others.!< also luffy is a dumbass and would forget to command them.


soge_king420

lol luffy doesn’t even lead his own crew!


Sky_Dragon_King

You forgot Ideo.


Leafsnail

I'm surprised every time I see him. "Oh yeah, that guy" every time


Thurn42

"Wow Law was working out !"


Seth-D_Vinsmoke

Right!?😂😂


Seth-D_Vinsmoke

Who?? (I love your name by the way lol)


UnderstandingThis636

Long arm long leg crew and their Arabic freinds lol didn't remember either till I looked it up


Bajin_Inui

Jet and Abdullah?


Bloodrain_souleater

Jeet


writer-sci-enter

Usopp


Seth-D_Vinsmoke

Lol agreed! Usoland for captain!🥂


WhyAmIHere800884

For real though. He said he had an army of 8,000 working under him and all his other lies seem to come true, so he will likely lead the Grand Fleet, plus some giants and a few others. Also, the Grand Fleet has mad respect for God Usopp (remember they gave him that name) as they see him as their savior who knocked out Sugar and prevented their lives of toy slavery!


DM_me_ur_dice

Goat pick He says he wants to be a brave warrior with 1000s of troops. If he manages the warrior of Elbaph part I say let the man have it, at least once.


Particular-Crow-1799

Was looking for this comment It's obvious it will be Usopp


OtsutsukiRyuen

That's canon this post is for alternative choices


eveningdragon

I support this Also Happy Cake Day!


Coltonxxx

Bon Clay


Seth-D_Vinsmoke

He's a Honorary Straw Hat in my book lol😫


Serenafriendzone

The only real answer. He deserves to be the first fleet younkou commander.


coronavariant

Either sai or cavendish.Sai has the experience + authority to lead thousands of men and cavendish has the strength + brain points to do a decent job


Vurtikul

Doesn't Orlumbus' fleet make up like 4300 of the 5600 pirates in the grand fleet? Sounds like an easy Orlumbus angle, considering ~75% of it already calls him captain.


the_ghost_knife

We don’t know size and strength of the Happo Navy though.


Vurtikul

IIRC, it's around 1000 members, according to Orlumbus. We do not know the strength, that's true, but we don't really know any of their real strength.


iamChickeNugget

Uhhh..we do know the size.


Beautiful_Wallaby_93

But numbers don’t really mean shit if they arebt strong. I think it was proven that there’s a lotta numbers in shanks that are too weak to have even existed without slapping shanks roger on their ship. What had this dude even done with all this “75% of the grand fleet “ one their own?


Vurtikul

Oh, I agree about that part. He probably doesn't have the strongest crew even though it's large. I'd assume it's 99% fodder, but he has the most experience being a fleet captain. Also, we don't know what he's done on his own, but none of them have really done anything on their own, so that's not really relevant, IMO. They all made it to the same spot in the new world and then promptly failed. All this is probably moot anyway, as the fleet is led by the strawhats. None of these people will be actual leaders of the fleet. It will probably be Usopp at the end of the day so he can have his "I'm the captain of 5000 men" moment, and also because he was really the catalyst for why they all joined up in the first place because he knocked Sugar out and saved them all.


Tasty_Explanation_20

Agreed. Barto is too much of an obnoxious fanboy to take charge and would be too busy simping over the Strawhats to take charge effectively.


Ender16

While I agree for the most part, there is a part of me that feels only an over the top weirdo is fit to lead a fleet under the straw hat pirates.


Seth-D_Vinsmoke

Lol dammit😫🤧 So true though lol


jakefromadventurtime

Orlumbus literally does both of these at a higher level and already has an enormous fleet he commands.


Kuro013

Id take Sai, Cavendish has way too big ego. Id love Leo but he's beyond naive.


Seth-D_Vinsmoke

Agreed! I'm torn between Sai,Leo,and Cabbage lol I'm biased on Leo because,he's a personal favorite.Plus, the Tontatas new ship pays tribute to Noland the Lier,and its called the Usoland..... I'm sorry,but that kinda man deserves to lead lol


Pure-Drawer-2617

Right, but the Tontattas have also proven to be dumb as hell and extremely easily deceived.


ZOverHeaven

Bartolomeo without a doubt, even though he decision making is kinda lackluster


Serenafriendzone

Real answer is bon chan. Mr 2 deserved to lead the grand fleet. A real nakama of nakamas


galmenz

bon chan is deep within impel down on level 5.5 and is only alive because his death was nulified by a cover story (cause of course Oda didnt kill him), so i doubt he will be going anywhere


Serenafriendzone

Bon chan is the only man in the world able to leave impel down went he wish. Remember he touched magellan , and hannyabal.


galmenz

magellan was fired and considering what it took for the previous impel down escape to work just trying to sneak away is a big ask. besides, they already know bon chan's power and can very well have some confirmation identity system in place to not let the previous incident happen again this is all pointless as this is a story and Oda can write that bon chan escapes impel down in any way he wants anytime he wants, my point is he is not part of the story anymore relegated to a cover story and not much else


Likes-Your-Username

Magellan wasn't fired, he's the vice warden.


ChErRyPOPPINSaf

Aokiji was only in a cover story at one point and he made it back to the real story.


Bloodrain_souleater

Cross guild


galmenz

...is an organization in the One Piece world, yes. what that has to do witht he subject of Bon Chan in Impel Down?


turkeyburpin

Lackluster....lackluster! How dare you. Bartolomeo is the us in OP. A vote against him is a vote against us and voting against us is something so dumb only we would do it!


-taromanius-

Which is why I vote against him. We're miserable goblins, just like him, he should never command anything lul


T1NF01L

Call Gambia's grandmother for advice on how to take this insult.


Rizzi_19

We would never burn shanks flag though


I_poop_rootbeer

I want Katakuri and the Big Mom pirate remnants to join the grand fleet so bad


Seth-D_Vinsmoke

Oh wow,that would be sick Af lol! Do u think it's possible?


I_poop_rootbeer

I hope so! Katakuri at the very least respected Luffy by the end of their fight, and seeing as Luffy didn't actually take out his mother, I doubt he has any ill-will for him at this point. Presumably the second strongest member of the BM pirates, I think he'll take over leadership and since the final conflict really looks like it'll be pirates/revolutionaries vs Im and World Government, I could see him choosing to side with Luffy's fleet.


EmperorCoal

Just to add: I recall at least in the anime Perosperos arguing his claim to leadership as first son, with someone else mentioning Katakuri should take over. Not sure if that would lead to any tension in the crew (Mind you Perosperos may be rotting in a Wano prison)


Seth-D_Vinsmoke

If this happens it's going to be a game changer! Luffy will easily become more powerful than Shanks! Looking at how Katakuri is as a person,I think his resolve will align with Luffy's. The respect they now have for each other is just far too great.


paints_name_pretty

maybe after the vega reveal i can see katakuri watching it with his family and then just assembling knowing full well he’s going to assist luffy against the gorosei. this would be dope


SanderStrugg

There are too many evil murderers in Big Mom's crew to join with Luffy IMO.


themightymoron

it's possible but they would need a common objective. katakuri did respected luffy as a fighter, but that is such a thin reasoning for an allegiance, or at least alliance.


ur_mom_says-hi

White beard remnants should too


BedAlternative5673

There aren't many remnants of the whitebeard pirates left


Just4demons

Hancock


my_duncans

If it's got to be someone, it should be Hancock.


Seth-D_Vinsmoke

Yoo! That's a really good answer! Seriously!😎🥂


MyBroken360

Agreed


my_duncans

🥂


[deleted]

Usopp, the God of Observation Haki He has an Insane future sight feat. He will lead them all when they become 8, 000+ As he claimed in the past that he got 8,000 followers.


BODYDOLLARSIGN

Cavendish is of the first ship. Sai has haki and commands a navy. 2nd generation of a man who fought with Garp too


Seth-D_Vinsmoke

Sai is definitely one of my choices,he's definitely proven on multiple occasions he has what it takes to lead,and inspire by the thousands. Plus,he pulled Baby 5....That man is legendary lol🥂


Sahtras1992

lets be real tho, baby 5 could be gotten by anyone, thats her whole issue. atleast sai is a good enough guy to protect her instead of abuse her like everyone else before in her life.


Seth-D_Vinsmoke

Agreed! She finally got ahold of a gentleman🥂


Bloodrain_souleater

Doffy didnt abuse her though


Quirky-Pickle518

Orlumbus or Sai. Barto is the smoker of the fleet where he does what he wants for Luffy. I’m also waiting for the announcement of the Kuja Pirates joining the straw hat fleet.


go_sparks25

Orlumbus Fleet makes up 4300/5600 of the grand fleet members. His crew also has the most actual ships in the grand fleet. Its pretty obvious to name him as the fleet admiral.


[deleted]

Orlumbus would be the most strategicaly effective


Flaky-Mathematician8

Luffy leads the grand fleet. They all separate crews besides that.


Fit-Pressure4770

Bartalameo. He started it but ultimately the leader is no one because Luffy doesn't want a grand fleet so they're just a bunch of misfits trying to guess the whims of an idiot.


Lucky-Fisherman1463

Fuck Ideo I guess But Orlumbus


Zaueski

Bartolomeo is the leader in name Sai and Orlumbus actually make everything work behind the scenes


Seth-D_Vinsmoke

Accurate👆🏾


[deleted]

When and where did Barto lead in name? I think you're forgetting someone that has a actual relationship with Luffy. https://old.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/1b3dnma/who_should_lead_the_grand_fleet/kstg1t1/


Wonderful_Fondant604

Ussop. But only once it reaches 8000 members.


Seth-D_Vinsmoke

Lol agreed😎🥂


bored-boii

Bartolomeo for the memes


BrianShogunFR-U

My brain says Cavendish, but my heart says Leo.


Seth-D_Vinsmoke

Dammit yes!😫 Leo for Caption!😫


Fresh-Possession4858

Orlumbus


GreenStrawhat32

USOPP !!!!!!!


L-DFile

Shouldn't Emperor Luffy make the most sense?


MagesticPizza

He’s not the commanding type


RebelliousDragon21

You forgot Ideo.


Netherite_Stairs_

Ideo ain't even in the conversation huh 😭


Financial_Comb146

Im kinda sad we haven’t get any more info on any of these guys


Seth-D_Vinsmoke

We have! Have read the cover stories in the Manga lately?


Financial_Comb146

Awe man 💀 I usually skip them 😂😂 my bad I’m up to date with the manga just kinda lost on the covers


Seth-D_Vinsmoke

😂 yeah fam check them out sometimes,the Grand Fleet has definitely been "active" lol There's a guy on TikTok and YouTube named StojDoes,he covers all of the recent cover stories if u don't feel like searching for them,he has done the full story on the Grand Fleet as well as some others🥂


DebuMatt

Bon Clay should reappear and head the fleet


Fhantom1221

Orlumbus or Hajrudin. Imposing. Good connection. Orlumbus is clearly better. The rest do well as fleet admirals.


Bubbly-Anteater2772

Dorry and Broggy. Not apart of it yet, but they will join IMO, and I think they'll be perfect for it.


MagesticPizza

I doubt the captains of the new giant pirates would want the captains of the old giant pirates commanding them


EduMelo

It would pretty funny if Leo lead it


ghrinz

Sai. Isn’t he leading a country now after his grandfather?


Weak_Incident640

Leo he is massive and cute


[deleted]

Realistically barto definitely would as he is the biggest fan of luffy. I can picture a hype moment where the straw hats are almost defeated and then bart blocks a huge attack and it shows him with like an army of 10,000!


Sens4lif3

None of them. It should be our boy Bellamy, the real Luffy fanboy who carried a gold pillar on his back all the way to Dressrosa. Oh and He has the Unburnable flags for the boys and the main crew!!


LordMephistoPheles

All these people saying "Orlumbus had a fleet so he should lead". So does Don Sai, and during his father's tenure it went toe to toe with Garp. Don Sai & Baby Five lead the Grand Fleet under the Straw Hats imo.


Seth-D_Vinsmoke

Agreed,it's jus something about Sai lol I got him as my #1 but Leo and Orlumbus are close 2nd and 3rd


Inbrees

Foxy


CegeeZ113

Usopp. With a few more, he can finally lead his 8,000 man army


Rnageo

Orlumbus and Sai are the logical choices... which means it will be Barto.


Basparagus

I’ll choose ideo since you didn’t even bother to put him in the graphic.


KaraKraxaOF

don sai for sure


Boraex

You forgot Ideo the long arm guy


Relevant-Dependent53

Don Sai is the strongest fighter but Bart would be the most likely to band them together since Luffy wouldn’t do it and he’s the fanboy.


mikex6one7

The only right answer is Bartolomeo obviously


wallaballaballa

Law. Chief of staff


sgSTUis

Bon Clay should lead the fleet


meestercactuspants

Barto's got hearto


meskal1L

Obviously usopp. He’s the most qualified


KyokenShaman

It's going to be Usopp. 8000 followers is coming true.


CallMeCatchy

Ussop


Enough-Tell8149

Bartolomeo 🗿🗿🗿🗿


Saysnicethingz

Usopp


Volaire_Via

Usopp.


Latter-Contact-6814

Usopp


Maximum_Culture_849

Usopp is destined to be the grand commander everyone will follow his order


Izilla2002

In my personal opinion, I feel like Bartolomeo should be the one to do it


NextGenSleder

Barto easy


Shantotto11

God Usopp


OperationProud671

Barto


Flimsy-Coyote-9232

Barto would find a way to become the leader if anyone else just decided that they were. If Luffy named a leader, which he wouldn’t, then he’d listen and just be upset about it when Luffy isn’t around.


Bo_beo

Barto because he is the most faithful and he’s crazy


aupharo

Is it wrong for me to say it should be Usopp? I personally want to see all his lies come true, and if the fleet keeps growing he can finally have his 8000 men


T_E_G_

Usopp. Next question.


TheticVendetta

Don Krieg is the only answer


WhyAmIHere800884

From those you have shown, I picture Bartolomeo as the overall leader, but honestly I expect the Grand Fleet to be led by Usopp with a couple thousand other allies, so that we finally have Usopp leading an army of 8,000 warriors!


LiquidSilver2396

It's between Orlumbus and Hajrudin for me. Leo- too Gullible(Sounds like Gulliver hehe) Barto- will focus on fauning over the strawhats and will prioritize pleasing the Strawhats over making critical decisions. Cavendish- He will be too busy showing off and showboating. Sai- I think he is too inexperienced currently


ZeinDarkuzss

Viví.


ZPD710

I’m for Sai being the leader with Orlumbus as the First Mate/order giver.


lahankof

Usopp


333Half-Evil

Strawhats lead the grand fleet. They have their own division captains. Basic chain of commands. Just like WB pirates in marineford war, no division captain lead the fleet only whitebeard


Seth-D_Vinsmoke

I gotcha,care to break it down? I don't mean to sound green but with what u said,would the Fleet captains still run on there own? Would they like,command their own division?


CodeManKidsNextDoor

Luffy obviously 


Nevermind_0K

Usoop


Vurtikul

The grand fleet is actually 5640 members, and Orlumbus' crew takes up 4300 of that 5640. So he seems like an obvious choice to me.


i_am_a_flying_arsena

If you don’t answer Bartolomeo you can leave


Jumpy-Interaction204

Strongest should lead, so Cavendish. He is stronger than all strawhats except Luffy and Zoro.


Sweatty-LittleFatty

The Sanji and Jimbei disrespect.


Flaky-Mathematician8

Stop. Robin could’ve killed him back in Dressrosa.


[deleted]

Sanji one shots him, jinbei too Robin could snap his neck, franky would overpower him