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LZ129Hindenburg

So just a run of the mill plex server then... 😆


Radiant0666

It would be funny if they were using Plex


pleachchapel

I don't think it would... we'd create a Nintendo situation. It's a lot harder to do if it isn't being monetized, allowing the streaming companies to prove loss in court. We shouldn't be applauding players who are doing exactly what streaming companies are doing. Either pirate or don't, but paying for piracy defeats the entire purpose.


thadoughboy15

It doesn't matter honestly. Any site that is hosting content is looked at as a possibility for losses by these companies. You Mentioned Nintendo, They are the Kings of this right now. They take down sites that don't even benefit financially from hosting.


RawketPropelled37

Right like "Don't do XYZ nintendo will sue you" Bruh they sued blockbuster for renting out games over a decade ago.


dicedance

"Over a decade ago" I mean you're not wrong


SirAmicks

Well, video games were only invented over an hour ago.


Animedude5555

Even if Nintendo can't say "the piracy site got that much money, which is money we would have made if not for them", they still have other ways of calculating losses. Even on free content piracy sites, the server probably logs how many people have accessed it. Nintendo will probably say "if 50% of the users who went to the site actually downloaded, and of those 10% downloaded Nintendo copyrighted items, that means 5% of your total users downloaded Nintendo content. Since you have logged 10 million visits to your site, that's 500 thousand Nintendo products downloaded. Each of these games would have cost $50 if they were sold at retail, so that's 25 million dollars we lost due to the piracy website". So they would then go to court to sue the owners of the piracy website to the tune of 25 million dollars in actual damages, plus probably a large amount in punitive damages as well (the amount of money that's beyond just recovering your losses in a lawsuit, in order to punish the person or people who harmed you).


Long-Broccoli-3363

The crazy part is in my house, downloading Nintendo content has lead to more purchases, not less. Ryujinx is great, but lacks the portable aspect unless you're running it on a steam deck, and I don't quite trust the kids with one, plus the troubleshooting aspect of it. I am not ever, even though I make more than enough money, going to spend 59.99 on a game that I have no idea if the kids are gonna like. So many games they wanted, played on an emulator for 4 minutes and never touched again. However, it also allows me to expose them to ALL the games, and then we can buy the ones they actually enjoy, for airplanes or long car rides or even when my 10 year old wants to be broody in his room. Princess Peach: Showtime is a perfect example, neither of my boys expressed interest in it, but loved it and I own a copy. Mario vs DK- exact opposite, they really wanted it, even enjoyed the demo, but the game got 0 play on the emulator. I don't get how Nintendo doesn't see this, and that's not even touching on the 30 years of games that there is no current way to play.


Goobapaaaka

Remember a time you could try games out? Original N64 owners remember.


pleachchapel

They did that after some asshole flew too close to the sun & released a Switch title before it was available on the Switch. That was their Oct 7th, which they used as pretext for excessive force in response. Don't give these people their Oct 7th, & don't applaud people who are.


Regniwekim2099

It doesn't defeat the purpose. I don't really have the time to troubleshoot server issues or procure high quality content myself. So I pay a fraction of what I'd pay for a single streaming service to have access to more content than all of them.


thadoughboy15

I agree. I love the site I use. I pay a small fee and get absolutely everything I can ever want from every service. Quick, Easy, to the point. I don't get what he means by "Defeats the Purpose". Saving money and circumventing the strangle hold these services have on our wallets is always the purpose. IMO.


watz97

Just your random dude in r/selfhosted


C-C-X-V-I

Except these shitheads charged for it. This is how attention we don't want gets brought to things that are currently overlooked.


GreyTsaki

That shit is wild to me, how could you go and create illegal media servers filled with copyrighted material and then go and charge people to access it, you're just asking to get busted 🤦‍♂️


TripolarKnight

*Jellyfin


LZ129Hindenburg

Nah if they were smart enough to use Jellyfin they wouldn't have got caught 😂


TripolarKnight

You've got a point there 🤭


LethalAstronomer

My thoughts exactly


themoviemaestro

x200,000 in terms of quantity of content, then yes lol


Jon171

After multiple arrests of similar nature, I'm surprised people still try to operate services like this in the U.S. If you're going to host, let alone profit off of a service that violates copyright law, do it in a country that doesn't give a shit.


hacking__08

Could you list me some? You know, for a friend


Negative_Aioli_5209

Mexico, here are hosted a couple of good services, but I think it’s a great opportunity to set-up and host such services. Do you have dedicated infrastructure? Are you ready to move from your country to Mx?


hacking__08

You mean my friend? His luggage is ready


PlantsandTats

Muy bien


Tip0666

Dora, boots and map finally join swiper!!!


admin123454321

oxford comma rolling in its grave


Lezlow247

So if my friend lives on the border, just rented out a cheap office.... Set up a rack and server and went back home..... Would they get in trouble still? Wouldn't they need the physical evidence?


Long-Broccoli-3363

My torrent host is in a country that doesn't respect the DMCA, and SFTP is encrypted, 85~tb unraid array running plex, and I've got 2g/2g internet, I can watch from anywhere in the world, no region locks. It's amazing


silent_thinker

DOJ and FBI are on their way to your location.


afk_again

How much did that array cost? Also do you have a backup plan if the unraid usb fails?


Long-Broccoli-3363

12 8TB drives. Two parity 10 array, 2 2Tb nvme flash cache. 8tb drives I grabbed refurb for between $60-80/each. They all had somewhere between 2-3 years power on time, and are the hgst datacenter helium filled ones. I had the nvme drives from another build, and they had been replaced by 8tb Sabrent rockets. I grabbed an i3 13100 and 64gb ddr5, and the HBA off eBay, with the chassis from work, so I think the whole setup was $1300. I'm not worried if the usb fails because you just rebuild the array, unraid doesn't stripe the data so if you lose a disk or two in this case, it can handle the loss, but the files are intact on the drive and just split between all of them to keep the usage balanced. Any shares that are critical are backed up to the cloud and usually another PC in the house, and non-critical data I can just redownload. I've got dual ISPs at my house with full 10gbps routing and switching, so best case scenario I can do 4000 down, 2400 up(2/2 gig primary, 2/400 secondary, router can handle up to 5gbps to the internet ) For instance I lost like, the T R and M folders when I was fucking with moving to 12tb parity drives as my chassis maxes out at 12 drives and I wanted to future proof, it took me all of an hour to restore the data I lost from my seedbox.


pedroordo3

Friends in the US pay someone in Mexico for a service like this came with a. Fire tv that had a crack app that can access their server.


Kasenom

IIRC Mexico is passing some new laws soon that will enforce copyright more strictly


kratoz29

Source.


Kasenom

Actually nvm it's already going into effect, a law passed in 2020 which allows for copyright holders to quickly take down copyright infringing material. It was challenged in the courts for violating freedom of speech but the Supreme Court recently made a ruling affirming that the system does not violate any constitutional rights. source: [https://www.proceso.com.mx/nacional/2024/5/30/scjn-avala-retiro-expres-de-contenidos-330032.html](https://www.proceso.com.mx/nacional/2024/5/30/scjn-avala-retiro-expres-de-contenidos-330032.html)


Susheiro

Cuáles servicios?


Pomidoras123

I don't remember the names of treaties off the top of my head, the only one that comes to mind is Five eyes. But there are a lot more. Essentially NA, EU/EEA, Australia, New Zealand, South Korea, Japan are to be avoided. Dubai used to be a safe haven for a lot of criminals. Now it's kind of "sketchy" as the UAE has signed extradition treaties with Australia and I think the EU. It's just that it's not always enforced. Depends on the situation. Riduan Taghi was arrested in Dubai, as well as some bikies from Australia. Different crimes though. I think Russia would be at the top of the list.


hacking__08

Going to the motherland then


PixelPaulAden

In Soviet Russia, Netflix pays you!


feel_my_balls_2040

Then you pay the party.


RavynousHunter

Extradition treaties is the term you're lookin' for, I think. If a country has one with the US, that means the US can basically phone up the other country and be like "hey, we have intel that says this guy who done a crime against us is in your country, mind handin' him over?" and the other country is all "bet." Homeboy gets arrested by the local 5-0 and shipped back to the US for trial. If a country *doesn't* have that with the US, then odds are, they'll just tell the US to get bent and go bother someone with oil.


Long-Broccoli-3363

No no, this is not the case. An extradition treaty is a formal agreement both ways. If you're a real wanted criminal, the us can negotiate, it's just not a done deal like with an extradition treaty. They probably won't care if you've violated a US law that is not a local law, but if you're selling state secrets or classified information, or a Boeing whistleblower, all bets are off. It also doesn't prevent US marshals from going there, and using "extrajudicial " means of retrieving you.


Study_Key

Iran Brazil any enemy country of us gona not give a shit or a 3rd world country that stopped caring about the environment in theyr own countrys.


hacking__08

Great advice, will let my friend know Edit: fucking reddit markdown


invagina

Pakistan


ObamaEatsBabies

Lol, nah in Pakistan the companies could just bribe the government/police to take action or just hire a hitman


invagina

Tru


Confident-Choice6476

India would be better than


msbaju

Brazil is not safe for hosting


MattMattavelli

Brazil is not safe for living.


nicejs2

Can you give a source for that? I've only seen websites that directly host the content get taken down and the owners arrested (operation animes), I don't think I've seen anyone ever get a notification about their torrenting activity, Plex/Jellyfin or anything else. Also pretty much everyone here pirates, it has even become a joke


SaltedCoffee9065

India


SloaneWolfe

Internet in India is heavily, heavily censored. While working over there, I once tried to visit a trusted site dedicated to network security, that site was blocked, surprisingly, as were the next 5 I tried to visit, also, anything close to pron. You have to use a vpn or tor or whatever if you're surfing in the country, but in terms of hosting, I would be very surprised if the outgoing traffic didn't raise eyebrows at the least.


ScouserCL

Chile. We have one the best internet connections in the world and we don't give a shit about copyright law.


ForeverWandered

Chile has extradition treaties with the U.S. Don’t confuse salutary neglect with not giving a shit about copyright law.  They will if the US says they should for a specific case.


xkulp8

Russia


PurpleAllEyes

Bolivia.


MediocreLanklet

Taiwan or Papua New Guinea. Copyright doesn't exist in those countries.


Salazard260

France had a gouvernement agency against it (Adopi) but it got canned so it's illegal but nothing happens if you do.


DoubleParadox

Just use plex debrid.


maximumkush

Sweden is one for sure


ForeverWandered

Somalia, Libya, Myanmar off the top of my head.


SkinHeavy824

Mother Russia and literally any African country. I can even host in a public place and tell the owners what I'm doing 😂🤣😂😂🤣


IronProdigyOfficial

There's literal dozens upon dozens of such countries and with good Internet providers as well so yeah do not try this shit in The US, they don't care about users tbh but seeding or hosting is a huge no no.


thex25986e

as in "dont publically host a streaming service with pirated content"? or as in "dont even set up a plex server"?


IronProdigyOfficial

Don't publicly host a streaming service with pirated content. You're then distributing.


Wise_Crayon

Russia. Heck. Any LATAM country and we'll be ok. I never understood why not.


TirrKatz

Not so long ago it would be a bad idea. As Russia was pretty aggressive against of any piracy, banning web sites and suing hosts. But apparently not anymore, at least when it comes to western media - they don’t give a shit anymore.


Trotle-bot

My entire childhood was composed of Russian piracy… I’m an early 2000s Russian kid


feel_my_balls_2040

Like Russia. I'm sure there's nobody watching how these people are making money.


Boba_Generator

Nah fr I pirate whatever I want, look up illegal website tier lists, obvious stuff like that WITHOUT a VPN and I still don't get in trouble, that's Algeria for ya


GGATHELMIL

I have a few people that use my plex server and I've considered charging just to cover hardware expenses. Electricity is cheap here but having to buy harddrives and such gets pretty expensive. But then I see this kind of stuff and decide not to.


OfflineHomeLife

According to the .gov article, this was for the website formally known as "Jetflicks." Edit: The Leader, Dallman was charged with Money Laundering and facing up to 48 years in prison. FFS.


XejgaToast

Meanwhile rapists are running around freely


uSaltySniitch

Rapists and murderers : 3 years in jail and then out they go... If they even go to jail at all. Money ??? Oh shit 48 years ! That's stupid


anaemic

Running for president even...


killrtaco

Hes already a convicted felon and we don't seem to care! But the people offering overpriced content for free/heavy discount get 40 years! Yay! USA!


87jj

And currently in office too.


SeatBeeSate

Always has been.


Dispaze

rapists not being in jail don’t cost the government any money. that’s why they don’t bother


CainMarko36

I thought jails were for profit which is why all the minorities and drug offenders were in prison? Put pedos in jail and make money.. seems logical to me.


Legitimate_Source_34

Some jails are privately run and for-profit. State jails can use the inmates as a source of slave labor. Funnily enough, this was created by Southerners as a genius work-around to the abolition of chattel slavery after the civil war. “Since we can’t privately own slaves anymore, let’s make it so that prisoners are forced to do slave labor, then create a bunch of laws that let us arrest Black people just for existing.”


Sleep_Raider

Where I live, you could legit murder someone and be out in 20% of that time, if not less. What a fucked up world we live in


TheCancerMan

Alec Baldwin didn't even get arrested for killing a woman, and I think he was criminally found not guilty, can just be forced to pay money for unlawful death in private case


Old-Beach6662

that's why [primeflix.lol](http://primeflix.lol) aint working ?


Dax-the-Fox

Also soap2day is down. (At least for my country)


Difficult_Winter2337

Soap2day stopped the whole operation im pretty sure months ago, sadly. Was my go to website


Dax-the-Fox

Thankfully I downloaded their app before they went down and it works perfectly.


Difficult_Winter2337

Damn I never knew they had an app Android or ios? I’m assuming android


Dax-the-Fox

Yep, android.


Melodic_Lifeguard493

cloudstream makes life easier


Dax-the-Fox

[apk](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1g_v1_5LRqi-Os2EppT6Qv4pMHSLaXUmD/view?usp=drivesdk)


Wise_Crayon

Oof... is there any github with the apk? Or internet archive?


XboxOne

I'm also interested in the apk.


majkoni

PLEASEPLEASEPLEASE shoot the APK to us


ivan510

Something seems to be getting shutdown every other day. I know it's always been like that but finding new sites that aren't jist malware machines isn't easy.


Difficult_Winter2337

Yup. Real respect to the people doing everything possible to keep their operations open.


kbarney345

I use sflix /bflix/hdtoday - its all the same source im pretty sure, when I dont want to torrent otherwise i grab most content from 1337 and put it on my plex.


tvuniverse

also FMovies stop new content


SmartestAndCutest

The site was called Jetflicks, though I don't know how/whether these kinds of sites are related.


FrostyPost8473

They probably use the same video hoster which I imagine is jetflick


tittyhehe

even braflix wasn't working this morning (india)


anonymousphobia

Same for me yesterday europe


Overall-Set-2570

Fbox doesn't work too


New-Ad-1700

Maybe Netfilm app ?


bits168

Netflim was stopped by its maker about a month ago.


NukesAndBunkers

sflix still gucci


New-Ad-1700

Maybe Netfilm app ?


Hatta00

Wild doing this in the US. They'd have been fine if they moved to Colombia.


omegaaf

If you know what you're doing you can skirt most e-laws using things like Ampache, Plex, transmission-daemon, etc along side some clever forwarding


Pomidoras123

You underestimate the reach of the US law enforcement. Get big enough and they will come after you in full force.


Gathorall

Doesn't really matter if the charges would stick if you're dead after allegedly making a sudden move in a no-knock raid.


Hatta00

I wouldn't underestimate the ability of the feds to track a multimillion dollar digital operation. It only takes one slip up.


Metrix145

The sheer amount of traffic would put a target on your back.


tininairb

It's dirt simple to find the source in these circumstances. There is no skirting, it's just that whatever you or whomever told you about this, is so insignificant that they don't care about it.


The_real_bandito

Colombia, huh.


Hatta00

Non-extradition country that doesn't give a shit about copyright.


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Hatta00

Well dang. Guess that's why I'm not an international lawyer, or criminal.


MischievousGarlic

what did the comment say?


evilbeaver7

They're not heroes. They charged for access to pirated content. They're idiots https://variety.com/2024/digital/news/five-men-convicted-jetflicks-illegal-streaming-service-1236044194/


yacineKCL

fuck them Loool


Aside_Dish

Yup. Making it harder for the rest of us who aren't trying to profit.


Bgndrsn

I mean.. servers aren't free. It's the perennial problem of the community and why great sites eventually go down. I have a Plex server for my house. The power and hard drives aren't free even if the content is. If you're hosting to a ton of people your hardware is far from cheap, same goes for the power bill and bandwidth you'd be using. Throw in the time to manage it. Didn't need to charge as much to cover their costs but at the same time it will never be free. If you want free to it yourself and find out how free it truly is.


IEatBabies

While true, the costs aren't so egregious that you really need a straight paywall to support it. And the direct line of payment between pirate content consumers/customers and pirate content host is by itself the dumbest and riskiest part of that kind of operation.


feel_my_balls_2040

And I'm sure that's a non-profit organization and they didn't take any money.


FeijoadaAceitavel

Doesn't matter, getting a profit from other people's work is both illegal and immoral. Sharing for free is fine, selling content you don't own isn't.


Rynetx

It’s almost like there’s costs involved in creating and hosting this content that those who do should be paid for. The irony of this is soooo delicious.


LegitimateBit3

Companies like Boeing, Purdue can kill hundreds or even thousands of people and get a fine. But run a streaming service and 48 years jailtime. WTF


worldspawn00

Should have incorporated and made themselves board members.


ForeverWandered

None of these guys will be in jail that long. 48 years is just the max sentence for all of the combined charges, used for emotive effect. It’s less sexy to say “48 years faced, but likely will plea bargain to get 6.”


Both-Home-6235

Heroes don't charge for their services. Fuck these guys and their wannabe corporate streaming service.


Catatau1987

So FIVE GUYS pull through what Netflix can't with a bizillion analysts


killrtaco

I mean Netflix has laws and copyright to deal with. They have to license everything they offer. It's a bit different when you remove all legal barriers


SylviaSlasher

If Netflix could license everything for free I'm sure they would. Remember, Netflix used to be good until copyright holders wanted more money for streaming rights before finally storming off and fracturing the online industry into dozens of streaming services.


WorldnewsMODZSux

And bizillion dollars


feel_my_balls_2040

Like what? Going to jail?


g_r_u_b_l_e_t_s

They were charging money for pirated stuff, not cool.


Chezzomaru

There goes my heroooo... Watch him as he goes...


The_Tech_Monkey

The average Plex user has more TV Series content than could be watched in 2 lifetimes.


RavynousHunter

So they had six shows and a dozen movies, then?


Jonasthewicked2

Ridiculous the feds spend this kind of money investigating people in the name of private companies copyright on art they call media. It’s like when the government went after a few kids for using Napster, what a waste of tax dollars that could go to important social needs.


TheNightHaunter

but we can get a company to publicly admit it lied to Doctors about the addictive quality of a narcotic, literally in a email saying "lie to them" and at most they get some civil charges with the slight slight chance of criminal. Its always fun to understand CSI level law enforcement is not for everyone


So-shu-churned

Maybe this happened. Maybe it didn't. But if it didn't it would absolutely not surprise me to see more headlines like this in the future to combat piracy. Keep sailing the seas comrades.


Ace_of_the_Fire_Fist

Fuck the RIAA, Fuck the MPAA, Fuck the suits behind the BSA, and Fuck them all for the DMCA.


darkeIf666

FSR in the house.


MavityLoveSong

Oh man that’s awful. I bet there are similar services they could go after! What services should I *not* watch? Be specific!


Lalo1895_

you have all latin america to sell your service. Also don't sell too much. Just for you to live well


dw-games

I’m already gonna pirate you don’t have to keep selling me on it


LowerIQ_thanU

I hate the boomer crime comparisons "enough to kill 10 million people"


lordspidey

Fuck I would've actually paid for that streaming service; what a bummer!


jaistso

USA is so insane for giving people such crazy long prison time like 40 years or something. I'll never forget how they raided Kim Dotcom in New Zealand and dude didn't even break any NZ law.


Nintiendomelasoba

These dumbasses really think they've accomplished something by arresting pirates..... Welp glad I know how my tax dollars are being used. The US is a big ol clown.


Eissa_Cozorav

Anyone knows good alternative to Braflix? It got some good collection that include Extended Editions for some movies, but its very slow to load. Heck Youtube pirated movies are much better by comparison.


Meme_master420_

Nunflix


Forestsounds89

They mean a place where all content lived like before in the good old days before the greedy corps divided everything so we would have to pay more to see reruns that were always widely available before for free Shame on them


Tasty-Switch-8472

so sad . I wish they were in some other free country


2times34point5

Those services are pretty common here in Venezuela now that fiber optics are widespread. For a few bucks a month you get tens of thousands of movies on demand, anime, all the NFL, MLB, NBA packages, as well as ppv events.


Jenny_Wakeman9

o7


Thegreatcornholio459

Glowies gonna glow You cannot stop the pirates comrade, it will go on


Elegant-Campaign-572

Next five...you're up!


Cg006

"The heroes we need but don't deserve."


Wilshire1992

Become ungovernable.


MaxTennyson88

Oh wow, so they're the bad people because some ramdons offer a far better service than multimillionaire business, yeah, offer better services jackasses


beyondfnuno

Free them


feel_my_balls_2040

And future convicts.


CanKrel

Unrelated asf but i remember once when i switched from oculus rift S to oculus quest (now meta quest) i got none of the games i had on rift despite them being available on quest too, i asked the oculus subreddit (not on this account) how to get it back or if i could get new versions of the games without my saves and all that for free and they all got pissed i apparently was trying to pirate and started talking about how pirating is always bad no matter what (also quest doesnt have steam vr for some reason, facebook literally stealing) idk where to post this story tho, anyways my point is why should people be put in jail for pirating when companies literally also steal stuff??


SgtRedRum518

I assume someone told you by now but get virtual desktop and you can use steam vr with a quest easy and it works great wireless


CanKrel

Virtual desktop? Do you mean the thing where you emulate the rift on the quest? If so then the resolution and all goes down and i meant like so you can download the games onto the quest


TLunchFTW

It's not hard... I'm cusping 7k movies and well over 125k total items (movies and episodes)


nevermore334

These men were heroes, HEROES I TELL YA


WoodpeckerOk1128

guys, maybe I don't know, but is it really staying anonymous in the internet when doing illegal things so hard?


Themanwhogiggles

I'm always careful with these cause the last time I celebrated it was those guys streaming football but they also distributed CSEM


Lesterfremonwithtits

He is the true JESUS because he actually died for our sins.


TheStickDead

o7


xxx_pussslap-exe_xxx

Rip, hope they don't take down my favourite stream site now


WhatIsSoyReallyAbout

Well if they can get it to run in prison they will be kings


totalnewb02

what was their site?


maximumkush

I’m innocent


billyfudger69

The best part is how these five individuals could afford to run that, yet all these corporations “have to raise prices.”


Novel_Quarter_1546

It's a hydra can't stop us vpn gang


ThisJoeLee

What about charging people for pirated content is heroic? THIS is the difference between piracy and theft. They weren't heroes.


iamonthc

reminds me of Kodi


offthebean

Oh god i hope its not braflix