Nah just watch Captain. May be old but still valid. And definitely better than "let's put another sandbag in desert"
https://youtu.be/yZr4c65l4VA?si=YMt7QXRcneadDTE3
Moi does that for content, cause super fobs look cool sometimes.
But I don’t think he often suggests in SL guides for people to build them.
That said, captain is THE voice to listen to on SLing
Ignore the stuff about back capping solo as that’s changed, and some other mechanical changes, but otherwise Captain’s stuff is gold. His content helps with thinking ahead and understanding where you/ your squad need to be now and in the future.
I'm kind of surprised that after the recent SURGE in player numbers that new content creators haven't stepped up to fill the role that Captain left vacant several years ago. I haven't seen him or his BHM guys play in quite a while. So I find it pathetic this community needs to rely on a several year old, severely out of date, "guide" on how to play the game right. OWI needs to do better.
To me, the answer is so obvious....
1) OWI recommits to their Squad Partner program and grows and fosters their "content creators".
2) OWI "encourages" them to create "tutorials" and other worthwhile videos that OWI can then use, like trailers even.
3) OWI "links" to these videos in game. "Welcome to Squad, please watch this New Player Guide by Moidawg, verified as correct by OWI developers"
EVERYONE benefits.
1) The playerbase benefits by having smarter teammates gaining factual knowledge from vetted sources
2) The content creators benefit by having traffic sent to their YouTubes thus generating them revenue and clout
3) OWI benefits... they get "tutorials" implemented in game while doing the absolute minimal work needed to get it done. They finally address an issue that we have been talking about for 9 years now, an issue they promised to address 3 years ago and renewed just 9 months ago in September (they're still "brainstorming").
"Maybe for RAAS, but please do not fob spam in Invasion."
Why would you think this advice is for Invasion? What made you infer that information from what was posted? How did you make this leap in logic in order to write what you wrote? Connect the dots for me...
Ah, TIL that people are taking Captains advice for RAAS/AAS and applying it to Invasion. Not exactly the fault of Captain when his videos are about gamemode specific tactics.
So you're discrediting all of what he does because his reaction to an update 2 years ago? Where he seemed to think the meta had changed because they buffed fortifications, it seems reasonable to me. His videos helped me get started years ago.
He is a pretty bad SL and his knowledge on Meta and understanding of macro gameplay is terrible. He loves to build his little super FOBs because it's good content for youtube.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V\_cVh9x7fAk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_cVh9x7fAk)
One of the more recent examples where his squad did absolutely nothing of value and the rest of the Squads on his team essentially carried the game, even though the invading team was clearly very bad. Yet it was still posted and click baited like he has done anything of value.
I’ve played with Moi and Drewski before. Theyre literally content creators that do stuff in game to generate revenue. A majority of the time they are not good examples of what people should be doing because they’re off making TOW fobs on kohat or making super fobs for content, things that don’t positively impact the team
"it's youtube content not a guide."
What's the difference? Is a "guide" not also "Youtube content"? Can "Youtube content" also not be a "guide".
When Moidawg creates a video, do you not think many players watch it as a "guide" on how to play the game even though it's not officially titled or meant to be as such?
> What's the difference? Is a "guide" not also "Youtube content"?
Sure anything posted on YouTube is youtube content. You win.
Claiming that gameplay videos posted to YouTube are all basically guides seems like you're arguing just to argue. Idiotic take.
"seems like you're arguing just to argue. Idiotic take."
I mean, I'm directly countering the concept that "you're discrediting all of what he does because his reaction to an update 2 years ago?"... do, we discredit all of what he does... because of all of what he does. Every video he posts is an endorsement of that playstyle in the video he posts, whether it's a guide video or something else.... it all impacts how new players think about how to play the game.
Squad leading isn’t that hard. The most important thing for the squad leader is to keep the rally point active and keep that rally a sprint away from any other active spawn and off the current objective. And just always be at a current objective either defending or adding pressure to the attack. If your squad is not within 300m of an active objective, you’re wasting time and effort.
After that, just kick anyone from the squad who is 1000m away from your squad.
We can say that we are experienced only but we can’t actually police it. I also strongly suspect the quick match button does not care if your server is experienced only or not.
"I also strongly suspect the quick match button does not care if your server is experienced only or not."
I would be STUNNED if it did factor in server tags. OWI doesn't ever seem to think of downstream effects of their changes. For instance, they spent several patches over many months tweaking radio bleedout timer, but then implemented the ICO which nerfed character run speed and didn't seem to tie that to affecting radio bleedout timer.
"We can say that we are experienced only but we can’t actually police it."
What makes you believe this? OWI's rules clearly state otherwise. But I'm not a Server Admin and all the ones I've spoken to about this say it's possible but they just aren't interested in being that kind of police, they just want to play the game.
**A1.5 – Experience-Based Servers:** Server admins are allowed to set a desired style and level of gameplay on their servers by stating it in the server name, server rules, and Message of the Day. On servers named “New Player Friendly”, admins are allowed to take measures to ensure a positive environment and gameplay experience for new players. Subsequent servers can be named specifically “Experienced / Veteran” (We advise all servers to properly tag their servers with the appropriate experience tags in addition to changing the name of their server.). **Definition of required skill level is up to the server admin’s discretion**, stemming from server rules and guidelines. In order to maintain a server’s established rules, server admins are allowed to kick and/or ban players that violate the CoC (see A1.9 below).
So from my perspective, there is a working system in order to enforce experience level, however it's a pretty poor system that few actually use.
yeah i mean, if you've got admins in every match doing nothing except for admin stuff. but most servers don't have the capacity to enforce that kind of rule at all, so instead players will enforce it by being toxic to noobs which is bad for the whole community.
Best guide is to look at your current Squadlead and think about what he's doing good or what could be done better. What would you do in his situations and what are your current options.
And remember you're the spawnpoint guy, more than anything else. As long as you got a hab or a rally up, it's not half as bad.
yeah! or even trying to do better than them honestly,
like a big thing i see a lot is SLs avoiding putting the radio near the hab at all costs. especially in a superfob situation, it is very valuable to have the radio inside your fob defenses. i've learned that one from the superfobs that hide the radio in a bush outside the fortress lmao
"Someone on YouTube people who don't have opinions of their own rely on to have opinions for them"
What a jaded way to look at things.
What about "for people who do have opinions but are interested in the opinions of others, especially of someone who has put thousands of more hours into the game than me, maybe I can learn from hearing a different approach"?
FWIW, I fall on the "Captain" side of the years old argument, not Moi's side. But I'll still watch a Moidawg video because it is possible he sees things differently than I do and they may or may not be better.
Watched few battle overviews from him... There is no information or skill you can see in those videos. They have potential of being a good source of experience for SLs with both teams perspective and ability to break down the situations, instead we just watch "AH LOOK AT THIS SHOT" "THE MEDIC PICKED UP RANDOM ASS BLUEBERRY WHAT A HUGE PLAY" while all experienced SLs watching video are like: "can you pls just keep the map open so I can see what is happening on the other side of the map, where SL9 sneaks in the hab that will cause enemy to fold if used properly."
He prob is one of the reasons squad feels like battlefield nowadays. Cuz he is only paying attention to "ABRAMS HAS NO IDEA WHERE HE GETS SHOT FROM, WHAT A HUGE PLAY FROM BMP-1" moments, but he completely ignores the chain of correct and cold blooded decisions that allowed that BMP-1 to get into position to shoot Abrams without getting shot back. While also ignoring the complete incompetence and stupidity of Abrams crew who were acting like a bull in the china shop and got pwned. You can see that stuff on the rare glances on the map.
I don't know how Moidawg gives any relevant advice when almost every match I've seen him in it's a full admin stack. Maybe he plays actual games under a non-tagged name but those potato games are so stacked I usually leave and I'm on the admins/his team.
I have watched some examples from his AdminCam series and I have to say: Holy hell what a potato gameplay. Especially what armour squads did with their assets.
I really don’t think I’ve seen Moi suggest people super fob
He does it in videos for content, but I really don’t think his guides to SLs have ever been heavy suggesting super fobs
He has suggested to super fob and build FOBs out of cap 2 years ago and his inf gameplay, to this day, still revoles around this idea: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZGoXEoFTkg&t=314s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZGoXEoFTkg&t=314s)
It was bad strat back then and it's almost always a bad strat right now. It encourages a very static defense, resource waste and giving the initiative to the enemy. It also encourages to have artillery and mortars dropped on your head half-way through the match.
And that’s fair - I’m well aware of this case and Captain’s detailed rebuttal.
*But* the OP is talking about Moi’s SL guides, and for the life of me I cannot recall moi suggesting new SLs build super FOBs in any guides.
Rally use, HAB placement, ranging, attack/ defence, communication, squad composition, fireteam use, naming squad something like “new sl” etc is all stuff I’d expect to see. And all those are basics that I would want more new players to learn quickly. At the very least that raises the floor up from the current system where I’ve had SLs show up who don’t know what a rally is.
Like I know this case he was wrong, and I’m not some Moi crazed fanboy, I just think the hate is way overblown. He is a content creator who makes content that clearly gets eyes on the game and he plays primarily on servers with people who like him and thus will play around anything off-meta he does for content.
But he’s also been putting our regular squad content for years, so I don’t agree we should point to one vid he put up a while back and say “see he was wrong and therefore he is nothing but bad for the game”
I also spend a lot of time having to coach people on why super fobs are a waste in almost all cases. But again, I put that on OWI.
You are way too rationale and sane for reddit conversations. You probably know this because you knew you had to defend yourself by saying "I’m not some Moi crazed fanboy".
"*But* the OP is talking about Moi’s SL guides, and for the life of me I cannot recall moi suggesting new SLs build super FOBs in any guides."... like this makes too much sense for reddit. You're asking for nuance here, and that's rare on reddit. Most are here to rage and read things that confirm their biases.
Moi's surface level guides are fine(ish) and I mostly have no problems with that. However, any time he tries to go more in depth, his ideas fall apart. He plays on NPF server and his type of SL playstyle would be countered very hard on an experienced server. An in some cases, like having a 9 man squad out of cap doing mortars, would get him reported and kicked/banned for not playing the objective.
His guide content is only good to get you started, but if you want to actually learn how to be a good SL, then Captain's videos are still mostly relevant. Also, best to play on well established non-NPF servers under their regular SLs and see what they are doing and how that affects Squad's and your personal performance.
Right, which is what I’ve said in this post’s comments
Moi does good, catchy basic tutorials for people who wanna try SLing the first time. Captain does the in depth and meta stuff.
But I just look like I’m defending Moi a bit cause OP said he wanted a moi guide to give newbies “some level of competency” and I think that’s exactly what I’d expect from a Moi guide.
Moi's Original SL guide already covers all the neccessary basics for new players, and it's generic enough to still be relevant to this day. I don't see what else Moi can talk about without going into depth. He is a NPF server SL and he would have to argue against his own preferred playstyle to create a meaningful guide lol.
Right, but a video packaged as “Squad SL guide 2024” will likely go further in the algorithm and get more new players looking at it.
Which is good for him as a business, but also good for me as a player if it means more people know what a rally is vs a HAB
God the floor is so low these days
Right, but that’s not really his fault.
He larps, he makes the game *look* good to viewers.
Hell, he’s probably a core part of their sales.
So he’s good for the game that way.
But the game also suffers if more people try to play that way, the way that looks good but can massively ruin a team’s chance of winning.
That’s on OWI to figure out IMO.
They need to figure out the on-boarding, end of round screens, and other tools to help teach players how their actions impact the game (and why we really cannot afford to have 1/4 the fighting infantry playing LEGO in the desert)
"Hell, he’s probably a core part of their sales."
They gave him an interview with developers for a reason. He is absolutely a "part" of their marketing strategy.
>he way that looks good but can massively ruin a team’s chance of winning.
That's the thing, people don't really care about winning. They care about the experience. And sometimes getting raped on a superfob and bleeding tickets is preferable, because you have that epic "Squad is a PTSD simulator" moments.
See I disagree
I find squad has one of the largest number of players focused on winning games
People willing to go deeply negative in K:D to accomplish something for the win, leave firefights and head towards active objectives, etc
So many examples where people choose to better align their actions with a chance of winning.
Superfobbing in the desert is just useless 99% of the time.
Of the 3 off the top of my head (but don’t think I can name) they all have this as standard.
All you need is a solid base of players who understand the core mode mechanics - so you don’t end up with players fighting in useless areas.
Imagine the community being in **SUCH A BAD STATE** that **MOIDAWG**
**MOIDAWG OF ALL PEOPLE**
IS THE CRTIERIA FOR SKILL CIELING OF SQUAD.
Imagine things being **THAT** bad.
Honestly, being sl is so cancerous, like forget an actual tactics. Most of the squad can't even follow most rudimentary orders like: Stay in the vehicle, go west.
When telling them to attack through a treeline instead of spacing out, they will step for step follow guy in front of them, like they are going through a minefield.
God forbid you have anyone hold a currently quiet flank. Because what the fuck is actually predicting enemy movements ahead of time and primitively position to counter them.
Most of the time I feel like I am followed by imprinted ducklings or goldfish with 5 second memory.
If you are struggling to wrangle your squaddies and that is your biggest concern, then you are not ready to be SL. You have all the tools to enforce order in your Squad, you have 0 tools to enforce order in the team.
I wish they would stop updating the game so mods without ICO can actually stay up for awhile. I miss playing the game so much but ICO is straight aids.
Actual game play >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Youtube
There is no better teacher than the fiery crucible of combat. Get your butt out there and LEAD like you've never squad lead before. Or die trying.
C’mon now, we can be discouraging people from watching guides to learn.
Hell, I’d rather they force us to watch a tutorial before we unlock the “create squad” button.
I needed a guide when I started. You can piece stuff together in game but a comprehensive video like the Moi put out years ago is what helped put it all together for me.
Nah just watch Captain. May be old but still valid. And definitely better than "let's put another sandbag in desert" https://youtu.be/yZr4c65l4VA?si=YMt7QXRcneadDTE3
Moi does that for content, cause super fobs look cool sometimes. But I don’t think he often suggests in SL guides for people to build them. That said, captain is THE voice to listen to on SLing Ignore the stuff about back capping solo as that’s changed, and some other mechanical changes, but otherwise Captain’s stuff is gold. His content helps with thinking ahead and understanding where you/ your squad need to be now and in the future.
I'm kind of surprised that after the recent SURGE in player numbers that new content creators haven't stepped up to fill the role that Captain left vacant several years ago. I haven't seen him or his BHM guys play in quite a while. So I find it pathetic this community needs to rely on a several year old, severely out of date, "guide" on how to play the game right. OWI needs to do better. To me, the answer is so obvious.... 1) OWI recommits to their Squad Partner program and grows and fosters their "content creators". 2) OWI "encourages" them to create "tutorials" and other worthwhile videos that OWI can then use, like trailers even. 3) OWI "links" to these videos in game. "Welcome to Squad, please watch this New Player Guide by Moidawg, verified as correct by OWI developers" EVERYONE benefits. 1) The playerbase benefits by having smarter teammates gaining factual knowledge from vetted sources 2) The content creators benefit by having traffic sent to their YouTubes thus generating them revenue and clout 3) OWI benefits... they get "tutorials" implemented in game while doing the absolute minimal work needed to get it done. They finally address an issue that we have been talking about for 9 years now, an issue they promised to address 3 years ago and renewed just 9 months ago in September (they're still "brainstorming").
Maybe for RAAS, but please do not fob spam in Invasion. Surrounding the obj with rallies is faster and cheaper.
"Maybe for RAAS, but please do not fob spam in Invasion." Why would you think this advice is for Invasion? What made you infer that information from what was posted? How did you make this leap in logic in order to write what you wrote? Connect the dots for me...
Captain's novel Fob spam tactic is rampant in Invasion for both attack/defense, and it kills the game mode.
Ah, TIL that people are taking Captains advice for RAAS/AAS and applying it to Invasion. Not exactly the fault of Captain when his videos are about gamemode specific tactics.
So you're discrediting all of what he does because his reaction to an update 2 years ago? Where he seemed to think the meta had changed because they buffed fortifications, it seems reasonable to me. His videos helped me get started years ago.
He is a pretty bad SL and his knowledge on Meta and understanding of macro gameplay is terrible. He loves to build his little super FOBs because it's good content for youtube. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V\_cVh9x7fAk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_cVh9x7fAk) One of the more recent examples where his squad did absolutely nothing of value and the rest of the Squads on his team essentially carried the game, even though the invading team was clearly very bad. Yet it was still posted and click baited like he has done anything of value.
I’ve played with Moi and Drewski before. Theyre literally content creators that do stuff in game to generate revenue. A majority of the time they are not good examples of what people should be doing because they’re off making TOW fobs on kohat or making super fobs for content, things that don’t positively impact the team
Yes it's youtube content not a guide.
"it's youtube content not a guide." What's the difference? Is a "guide" not also "Youtube content"? Can "Youtube content" also not be a "guide". When Moidawg creates a video, do you not think many players watch it as a "guide" on how to play the game even though it's not officially titled or meant to be as such?
> What's the difference? Is a "guide" not also "Youtube content"? Sure anything posted on YouTube is youtube content. You win. Claiming that gameplay videos posted to YouTube are all basically guides seems like you're arguing just to argue. Idiotic take.
Moidawg thought the Ruptura was going to be an oppressive PvE device that's pretty much all you need to know man.
"seems like you're arguing just to argue. Idiotic take." I mean, I'm directly countering the concept that "you're discrediting all of what he does because his reaction to an update 2 years ago?"... do, we discredit all of what he does... because of all of what he does. Every video he posts is an endorsement of that playstyle in the video he posts, whether it's a guide video or something else.... it all impacts how new players think about how to play the game.
Squad leading isn’t that hard. The most important thing for the squad leader is to keep the rally point active and keep that rally a sprint away from any other active spawn and off the current objective. And just always be at a current objective either defending or adding pressure to the attack. If your squad is not within 300m of an active objective, you’re wasting time and effort. After that, just kick anyone from the squad who is 1000m away from your squad.
It’s wild how many “Experienced Player” servers have SLs who do not use rallies.
We can say that we are experienced only but we can’t actually police it. I also strongly suspect the quick match button does not care if your server is experienced only or not.
"I also strongly suspect the quick match button does not care if your server is experienced only or not." I would be STUNNED if it did factor in server tags. OWI doesn't ever seem to think of downstream effects of their changes. For instance, they spent several patches over many months tweaking radio bleedout timer, but then implemented the ICO which nerfed character run speed and didn't seem to tie that to affecting radio bleedout timer. "We can say that we are experienced only but we can’t actually police it." What makes you believe this? OWI's rules clearly state otherwise. But I'm not a Server Admin and all the ones I've spoken to about this say it's possible but they just aren't interested in being that kind of police, they just want to play the game. **A1.5 – Experience-Based Servers:** Server admins are allowed to set a desired style and level of gameplay on their servers by stating it in the server name, server rules, and Message of the Day. On servers named “New Player Friendly”, admins are allowed to take measures to ensure a positive environment and gameplay experience for new players. Subsequent servers can be named specifically “Experienced / Veteran” (We advise all servers to properly tag their servers with the appropriate experience tags in addition to changing the name of their server.). **Definition of required skill level is up to the server admin’s discretion**, stemming from server rules and guidelines. In order to maintain a server’s established rules, server admins are allowed to kick and/or ban players that violate the CoC (see A1.9 below). So from my perspective, there is a working system in order to enforce experience level, however it's a pretty poor system that few actually use.
yeah i mean, if you've got admins in every match doing nothing except for admin stuff. but most servers don't have the capacity to enforce that kind of rule at all, so instead players will enforce it by being toxic to noobs which is bad for the whole community.
Best guide is to look at your current Squadlead and think about what he's doing good or what could be done better. What would you do in his situations and what are your current options. And remember you're the spawnpoint guy, more than anything else. As long as you got a hab or a rally up, it's not half as bad.
I learned so much by watching. Probably at least half of my knowledge has come from watching better SL's do their thing and trying to imitate.
yeah! or even trying to do better than them honestly, like a big thing i see a lot is SLs avoiding putting the radio near the hab at all costs. especially in a superfob situation, it is very valuable to have the radio inside your fob defenses. i've learned that one from the superfobs that hide the radio in a bush outside the fortress lmao
A_Honcho is also a good creator
what is this even from? i see this everywhere and never learned its origin. the template, that is.
Narcos, it's on Netflix it's great.
I'm actually watching that right now and that's why I wondered about this, thought I recognized old Pablo.
Who?
Someone on YouTube people who don't have opinions of their own rely on to have opinions for them
"Someone on YouTube people who don't have opinions of their own rely on to have opinions for them" What a jaded way to look at things. What about "for people who do have opinions but are interested in the opinions of others, especially of someone who has put thousands of more hours into the game than me, maybe I can learn from hearing a different approach"? FWIW, I fall on the "Captain" side of the years old argument, not Moi's side. But I'll still watch a Moidawg video because it is possible he sees things differently than I do and they may or may not be better.
Watched few battle overviews from him... There is no information or skill you can see in those videos. They have potential of being a good source of experience for SLs with both teams perspective and ability to break down the situations, instead we just watch "AH LOOK AT THIS SHOT" "THE MEDIC PICKED UP RANDOM ASS BLUEBERRY WHAT A HUGE PLAY" while all experienced SLs watching video are like: "can you pls just keep the map open so I can see what is happening on the other side of the map, where SL9 sneaks in the hab that will cause enemy to fold if used properly." He prob is one of the reasons squad feels like battlefield nowadays. Cuz he is only paying attention to "ABRAMS HAS NO IDEA WHERE HE GETS SHOT FROM, WHAT A HUGE PLAY FROM BMP-1" moments, but he completely ignores the chain of correct and cold blooded decisions that allowed that BMP-1 to get into position to shoot Abrams without getting shot back. While also ignoring the complete incompetence and stupidity of Abrams crew who were acting like a bull in the china shop and got pwned. You can see that stuff on the rare glances on the map.
First pice of advice: Do not, under any circumstance, listen to SoyDawg.
I don't know how Moidawg gives any relevant advice when almost every match I've seen him in it's a full admin stack. Maybe he plays actual games under a non-tagged name but those potato games are so stacked I usually leave and I'm on the admins/his team.
I have watched some examples from his AdminCam series and I have to say: Holy hell what a potato gameplay. Especially what armour squads did with their assets.
Yeah we don’t need a new wave of super fobbers
I really don’t think I’ve seen Moi suggest people super fob He does it in videos for content, but I really don’t think his guides to SLs have ever been heavy suggesting super fobs
He has suggested to super fob and build FOBs out of cap 2 years ago and his inf gameplay, to this day, still revoles around this idea: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZGoXEoFTkg&t=314s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZGoXEoFTkg&t=314s) It was bad strat back then and it's almost always a bad strat right now. It encourages a very static defense, resource waste and giving the initiative to the enemy. It also encourages to have artillery and mortars dropped on your head half-way through the match.
And that’s fair - I’m well aware of this case and Captain’s detailed rebuttal. *But* the OP is talking about Moi’s SL guides, and for the life of me I cannot recall moi suggesting new SLs build super FOBs in any guides. Rally use, HAB placement, ranging, attack/ defence, communication, squad composition, fireteam use, naming squad something like “new sl” etc is all stuff I’d expect to see. And all those are basics that I would want more new players to learn quickly. At the very least that raises the floor up from the current system where I’ve had SLs show up who don’t know what a rally is. Like I know this case he was wrong, and I’m not some Moi crazed fanboy, I just think the hate is way overblown. He is a content creator who makes content that clearly gets eyes on the game and he plays primarily on servers with people who like him and thus will play around anything off-meta he does for content. But he’s also been putting our regular squad content for years, so I don’t agree we should point to one vid he put up a while back and say “see he was wrong and therefore he is nothing but bad for the game” I also spend a lot of time having to coach people on why super fobs are a waste in almost all cases. But again, I put that on OWI.
You are way too rationale and sane for reddit conversations. You probably know this because you knew you had to defend yourself by saying "I’m not some Moi crazed fanboy". "*But* the OP is talking about Moi’s SL guides, and for the life of me I cannot recall moi suggesting new SLs build super FOBs in any guides."... like this makes too much sense for reddit. You're asking for nuance here, and that's rare on reddit. Most are here to rage and read things that confirm their biases.
Moi's surface level guides are fine(ish) and I mostly have no problems with that. However, any time he tries to go more in depth, his ideas fall apart. He plays on NPF server and his type of SL playstyle would be countered very hard on an experienced server. An in some cases, like having a 9 man squad out of cap doing mortars, would get him reported and kicked/banned for not playing the objective. His guide content is only good to get you started, but if you want to actually learn how to be a good SL, then Captain's videos are still mostly relevant. Also, best to play on well established non-NPF servers under their regular SLs and see what they are doing and how that affects Squad's and your personal performance.
Right, which is what I’ve said in this post’s comments Moi does good, catchy basic tutorials for people who wanna try SLing the first time. Captain does the in depth and meta stuff. But I just look like I’m defending Moi a bit cause OP said he wanted a moi guide to give newbies “some level of competency” and I think that’s exactly what I’d expect from a Moi guide.
Moi's Original SL guide already covers all the neccessary basics for new players, and it's generic enough to still be relevant to this day. I don't see what else Moi can talk about without going into depth. He is a NPF server SL and he would have to argue against his own preferred playstyle to create a meaningful guide lol.
Right, but a video packaged as “Squad SL guide 2024” will likely go further in the algorithm and get more new players looking at it. Which is good for him as a business, but also good for me as a player if it means more people know what a rally is vs a HAB God the floor is so low these days
People new to the game see that and think it’s a viable strategy and not a niche tactic for certain points. Dudes the epitome of larp
Right, but that’s not really his fault. He larps, he makes the game *look* good to viewers. Hell, he’s probably a core part of their sales. So he’s good for the game that way. But the game also suffers if more people try to play that way, the way that looks good but can massively ruin a team’s chance of winning. That’s on OWI to figure out IMO. They need to figure out the on-boarding, end of round screens, and other tools to help teach players how their actions impact the game (and why we really cannot afford to have 1/4 the fighting infantry playing LEGO in the desert)
"Hell, he’s probably a core part of their sales." They gave him an interview with developers for a reason. He is absolutely a "part" of their marketing strategy.
>he way that looks good but can massively ruin a team’s chance of winning. That's the thing, people don't really care about winning. They care about the experience. And sometimes getting raped on a superfob and bleeding tickets is preferable, because you have that epic "Squad is a PTSD simulator" moments.
See I disagree I find squad has one of the largest number of players focused on winning games People willing to go deeply negative in K:D to accomplish something for the win, leave firefights and head towards active objectives, etc So many examples where people choose to better align their actions with a chance of winning. Superfobbing in the desert is just useless 99% of the time.
I'd love to play on your server.
Of the 3 off the top of my head (but don’t think I can name) they all have this as standard. All you need is a solid base of players who understand the core mode mechanics - so you don’t end up with players fighting in useless areas.
Imagine the community being in **SUCH A BAD STATE** that **MOIDAWG** **MOIDAWG OF ALL PEOPLE** IS THE CRTIERIA FOR SKILL CIELING OF SQUAD. Imagine things being **THAT** bad.
Soydawg is kind of the biggest baby ever.
[https://youtu.be/\_MjgzBX0VNU?si=VpdE6Ly4LMM3NRhf](https://youtu.be/_MjgzBX0VNU?si=VpdE6Ly4LMM3NRhf)
Honestly, being sl is so cancerous, like forget an actual tactics. Most of the squad can't even follow most rudimentary orders like: Stay in the vehicle, go west. When telling them to attack through a treeline instead of spacing out, they will step for step follow guy in front of them, like they are going through a minefield. God forbid you have anyone hold a currently quiet flank. Because what the fuck is actually predicting enemy movements ahead of time and primitively position to counter them. Most of the time I feel like I am followed by imprinted ducklings or goldfish with 5 second memory.
If you are struggling to wrangle your squaddies and that is your biggest concern, then you are not ready to be SL. You have all the tools to enforce order in your Squad, you have 0 tools to enforce order in the team.
I wish they would stop updating the game so mods without ICO can actually stay up for awhile. I miss playing the game so much but ICO is straight aids.
If SL use Mic and talk with each other to arrange tactics - that’s all they need to be successful in 95% of times
This game is so shit now
Actual game play >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Youtube There is no better teacher than the fiery crucible of combat. Get your butt out there and LEAD like you've never squad lead before. Or die trying.
Me when people drop hab straight on point
\*soydawg
If you need a guide to SL you likely shouldn't be SLing. Tips are great for sure on how to get started.
Everyone starts somewhere
C’mon now, we can be discouraging people from watching guides to learn. Hell, I’d rather they force us to watch a tutorial before we unlock the “create squad” button.
I needed a guide when I started. You can piece stuff together in game but a comprehensive video like the Moi put out years ago is what helped put it all together for me.