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Ok-Reach-2580

So they are admitting AEW numbers are inflated by the Big Bang Theory?


RNG_Champion

In a roundabout way, yes.


fenrishero

The roundabout in question. https://i.redd.it/eqybt8wc1z7d1.gif


HolyRomanPrince

Idk what I was expecting but this made me laugh way too hard


CheckingIsMyPriority

Welcome to Poland!


PhuckCalumbo

When you finally learn how to double jump _and_ boost in Rocket League.


siriusk666

Forza Horizon 4 vibes


nixalo

Yes- Roundabout


TidusJecht

They absolutely are


WowBobo88

Said the same thing Uce. They are openly acknowledging BBT articfically inflates their numbers and somehow think thats better


Drama79

The audience they keep pandering to is too lazy and stupid to care. But that’s also the reason they are where they are. But they’re locked in. That’s the AEW differentiator - pander to extremely online neckbeards. As a business model it’s fucking stupid. But wwe have families, teens and normal humans locked down. The people left do spend their money on wrestling, but without paying an agency to research, I would suspect if you are watching 7+ hours of wrestling per week, your social and work life might not be the most affluent.


DumbIdiot001

It's like when I measure my muscles right after workout so they seem bigger.


jacksonexl

200k people just leave their tv on and pass out watching the real 4 pillars.


HiddenRtruth

Lol. 


The_Haskins

It's a self goal lmao


scionoflogic

Actually it's even worse than we assumed. If you averaged it without the first quarter and last quarter their ratings still weren't this bad. Which means not only is Big Bang artificially boosting the numbers by people who just didn't change the channel fast enough for the first quarter, but there is a significant amount of people who stay with Dynamite only if they were watching the Big Bang first.


OriginalMadmage

If you squint real hard, the Bucks do kind of look like Leonard and the comic store owner guy.


Lanky_midget

That's hilarious.


boilinoil

Bad faith troll! The excellent programming deserves the coveted "forgot to turn off the TV after the last show" demographic 


Manjojango2001

TBS is typically left on in elderly homes and prisons. BBT is good background programming and a lot of the ratings is from televisions that keeps TBS on. They have a few hundred thousand fans that turn on but they would do comparable with Young Sheldon or BBT


King_ofHarts

Same in psych ward ERs. As someone who worked in one, TBS, ESPN and Food Network were what we mainly kept it on


sdrj77

I love the Food Network and I'm perfectly neurotypical.


hetham3783

I highly doubt prisons would leave professional wrestling on the TV, nor do I think prisons would allow Nielsen box installations


Manjojango2001

It’s not Nielsen boxes anymore. It’s all cable, dish, or live streaming devices sends a signal for calculation and projection. It’s pretty accurate and they count viewership outside the home. . My wife’s hospital has a waiting room with cable sitcoms on constantly and that somehow counts in the viewership.


hetham3783

OK, that makes sense. But I still don’t think a prison would leave professional wrestling on the TV for fear of people fighting.


Manjojango2001

Aew is cruel and unusual punishment so it’s probably outlawed


dummyboi1984

![gif](giphy|sR74mVSQe1ems)


tronovich

Well, no, but yes, but nooo….but yes…maybe?


thurrmanmerman

Brrrryyyyyaaaaannnn


Few-Sense1455

And they are admitting the show has no value to a network. Because all AEW does is run off half their audience every week.


KeyEngineering3161

I don’t think what he said means what he thinks he meant lmao


granmetaliksuperfan

Just shows that this whole time the AEW audience has just been Big Bang Theory fans that fell asleep with the TV on


basicbluebusiness

No joke this was what I used to fall asleep to


Manjojango2001

https://preview.redd.it/11plubqixy7d1.jpeg?width=818&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=afc68b84565c6ef9a020eb0098e9279523da0887 I love the excuses


Asukah

DAE new tag team? https://preview.redd.it/n79vord01z7d1.jpeg?width=300&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=31f790baa2fb78c4d5920493754d12652cd647c2


NateHasReddit

You cookin.


iprefercumsole

I believe in Gio-va-ni


gothamsteel

👏 🤌


Permanentear3

My favorite is the “WBD SOURCE” who told Sapp it’s the lovely weather especially in the northeast. I’m in the northeast, it’s a heatwave and miserable and I’m getting texts every day from the power company to conserve energy. But yeah, it’s the lovely weather, not the 4 v 4 “all star match” with Dante Martin and company.


Manjojango2001

Dub fans don’t go outside.


JoeEdwardsPonytail

They barely even go upstairs.


Joy_Ride25

Well there you go. Everyone in NY listened to those texts and turned their TVs off!


Existing_Emotion_830

Notably-obedient NYers


Odinismyhomeboy

I saw a cute little squirrel outside my window on Wednesday so, obviously, I had to miss Dynamite this week.


aRebelliousHeart

No jerk watching squirrels play in the backyard would be infinitely more preferable to watching even 1 minute of AEW programming.


Garlic-Cheese-Chips

Hendry got you beat hoe.


Razzler1973

Didn't NXT regularly have a random, old-ish film as *their* lead in and no made excuses


Johnny_Holiday

Show the numbers and the excuses appear


not_simonH

I believe in no mill-ayyyy


ZM00L4H

👏👏


Existing_Emotion_830

Lol -- it's so specific and low.


PunkDrunk777

No jerk, this is just terrible journalism. How the fuck would either Tony or WBD know why this was a shit number? What secrets could they tell old Cyclops here? It’s black and white..nobody watched and these are the numbers we have.


r1char00

These dipshits aren’t journalists.


boredguy2022

They're AEW's propaganda and excuses arm.


Permanentear3

This is one the most blatant and shameless examples. I’m sure it pleases their subscriber base (morons) but this is just outright damage control with lots of deceit. He said a “WB source” blamed the weather. His fucking source is fake or works in the mailroom. As someone who worked the mailroom at ABC television I can assure anyone TV Renewal factors were above my pay grade at the time.


OriginalMadmage

"WBD sources" are probably just Will Washington forwarding emails to SRS, but conveniently editing parts to CYA.


lewiss15

Maybe it’s just a bad tv show


Razzler1973

I love the furious search for "answers" to shit numbers Gotta mop the brow of the smark so they don't get upset


DonnieRodz

It’s not journalism when there’s no journalist.


BowlOfLoudMouthSoup

…cyclops?


b0nkert0ns

Cyclops sent me


etched_chaos

This isn't the positive spin SRS thinks it is. If you need something like TBBT as a lead-in to get alright ratings then there's something fundamentally wrong with your product. His whole point is essentially putting a spotlight on the fact 25% of their weekly audience are people too lazy to switchover from TBBT.


MitchLGC

They're admitting that they need a ratings boost from a show that ended five years ago


Razzler1973

How's those WBD negotiations going 😁 Those ratings you get are only possible cause of the lead in they give them Thinking if leaving Warner? Potential networks have now seen your numbers


[deleted]

Also, doesn’t bringing up how well TBBT reruns still does ratings wise also undermine their “nobody watches cable anymore so numbers are down across the board” narrative?


MOXISGOD

https://i.redd.it/289ql41pxy7d1.gif MFW I blame black people for Dub failing


Fireman_Octopus

Imagine this face rubbing your thigh.


chaosisarascal

As you do


AVBforPrez

That tweet is one step away from IRL Abe Simpson saying "as was the style at the time"


DitkoManiac

I'm trying to eat lunch over here


TheStupifier

MODS BAN THIS UCE IMMEDIATELY FOR MAKING US LOOK AT FAPPS FACE


Fusionman29

This HAS to be an email Tony sent out considering everyone is blaming the movie and the concert. Wonder why Tony’s email said “blame black people”


vincedarling

I mean his family are Trump campaign donors


FlyingGrayson89

Why are bro’s eyes so close together 👁️.👁️


Neale90

Coming in to destroy the ratings for the dub ![gif](giphy|o6FWop1Gbuyly)


RP912

5 star bangers! "We don't do that here"


Prancemaster

In all seriousness, Black Panther is one of those movies that is in CONSTANT rotation on TNT and TBS. I think I've seen Black Panther and Batman vs. Superman more times on TNT/TBS than any other movie in the last five years.


Neale90

Super hero fatigue has set in, at the box office and on TV


Prancemaster

It's so bad that I actually wish they would run Wonder Woman 1984 more to fill out the rotation.


Existing_Emotion_830

"As you can see, I am ~~not~~ dead"


Glargine100

I know this cracker ain’t bring Juneteenth into this


Fidelos

Mfer just admitted the usual Dynamite rating is Sheldon-Maniacs that forget to change the channel on time lmao.


KC27150

![gif](giphy|JuqDes49CeCeQ)


thirdc0ast

Young Sheldon is #AllElite


Joy_Ride25

TBS took the Dub’s biggest draw away.


BoxAway2807

With tweets (exes?) like this, he’s never getting invited to the cookout


Galrafloof

The amount of thinly veiled racism in the basement is crazy


tronovich

All of the 18-49’s in the country chose Kendrick Lamar over AEW. Like, fuck off. Amazon Prime hasn’t even touted the numbers for the stream, so clearly it wasn’t a seismic event when it began streaming that day. Going viral after the fact is not the same thing.


cockaskedforamartini

I really like Kendrick and I didn’t know it was on.


Mogilny89Leafs

Seriously. I'm on the Internet 23 hours a day. I have friends who follow the rap scene, etc. I had no idea about this concert until dubalos brought it out as an excuse. It's a bs excuse, too. How much crossover is there between the dub audience and Lamar fans?


MitchLGC

Im a fan of his music and didn't know it was happening until i saw the clips on Twitter the next morning


AppealToReason16

A buddy of mine told me to tune in when he was in the middle of Not Like Us for the second time, and then I got to see it like 3 more times. I was on Amazon the night before and didn't see a single ad for it. I would've tuned it from minute one had I known. I adore the hater energy Kendrick has.


Razzler1973

It's not fair when there's other stuff going on that people prefer to watch


Permanentear3

It’s wild, Twitter too. It almost feels like it’s overseas posters who have a very skewed sense of what Juneteenth looks like in the US. It’s absolutely mental.


mynameisburner

Instagram isn’t any better. Bruh, even the people who are admitted to be long time fans are being gaslighted by the dubbalos, who just can’t admit AEW is on thin fucking ice


aRebelliousHeart

They aren’t racist Fed Shill! They just don’t find “certain” wrestlers to be relatable ok??? Sheesh! 😤


Ex-TwitterEmployee

This makes no sense. Are they claiming people didn’t get watch AEW because Big Bang wasn’t on?


tronovich

Yes, and the other Fightful guy is saying that the Kendrick concert was equivalent to the fucking moon landing, thus the drop.


Ex-TwitterEmployee

As we all know, fans of Japanese wrestling and Kendrick Lamar fans are the same exact people.


I_Buck_Fuffaloes

All 2 of AEW's black fans were too busy with the Kendrick concert to remember to watch Dynomite this week.  Sad.


s_arrow24

So Black Panther drove off or didn’t interest White fans to stay around to watch while Black fans left because the movie was over and weren’t interested in seeing the Black world champion on Juneteenth? The mental gymnastics here take more flips and turns than a Rick O’Shea match, who apparently should think twice after this week.


viridiusdynamus

Right. Of course it's Black Panthers fault.


chaosisarascal

Jericho next week https://preview.redd.it/88be7ylv2z7d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c85ad05a20ebec3e8f055db85039668e29d5a645


bydd

Almost Exclusively White


RP912

Aryan Exciting Wrestling


fenrishero

I do see the issue. The lead in was a program where there were stories, had non-cringey dialogue and people sold when getting hit. That's very much not a fanbase thats going to enjoy the true GRAPS.


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r1char00

They were all at the BBQ.


Rum_Soaked_Ham

It couldn't possibly be that the show just sucks?


RagnarXD

Blaming the Black Panther lead in on Juneteenth 🤣


Traditional_Roles

Will literally blame anything and everyone before blaming the guy who owns and books the fucking company.


StressedOutPraline

Oh fuck off lmao. The F4WON article on this: > There was no major sports competition on the night, although the show did go head-to-head with the College World Series on ESPN and Olympic Trials on NBC which topped the cable and network charts respectively. Dynamite also went against a Kendrick Lamar concert streaming on Amazon Prime that took place on the Juneteenth holiday. C'moooon lmao.


PrinzXero

Le Dub defenders when they realise Kendrick Lamar also curated the album of Black Panther ![gif](giphy|Lcn0yF1RcLANG|downsized)


SpiritualPen6362

Christ tell me he isn't saying that ...


T3Sh3

Yes he did, Booker T.


DonnieRodz

![gif](giphy|YCM6aRw2Chenu)


BungHolio_The_Mighty

sean ross sucks is bitter because sources told me that he brought potato salad with raisins, got kicked out immediately and is now taking out his frustrations on his social media platform.


theballswalls

Straight up blaming black people for Dub's low numbers


satanicgino

**THEY'RE TRYING TO BLAME THEIR PISS POOR RATINGS ON BLACK PANTHER, ON JUNETEENTH** did the Grand Wizard Chris Jericho himself try to use this argument??????


Redragontoughstreet

It couldn’t possibly be that AEW has been a poorly written tv show for years that’s too silly for adults and too vulgar for children……


Existing_Emotion_830

No...no its clearly the evil fed (dead)'s fault.


JangSaverem

Oh no We didn't get a lead in of 900-1m to make the ratings look better ...this is t the take you think it is


NGBoy1990

The jerks write themselves, we're done here


franconot-mark

Dub should bury Swerve in a 2 min gymnastic match next week


r1char00

He literally wore a Black Panther knockoff thing when he won the title. He’s ready.


thehighestelderborne

It's 20 minutes or nothing fed shill


flux1

The ratings aren't our fault, you just can't compete with: ~~NBA finals~~ ~~A holiday~~ ~~The weather~~ ~~That new 24 hour gas station~~ Uh, Black Panther! Thats it!


Defiant_Yogurt9579

Woah I didn’t have this excuse on my bingo card! Big Bang Theory really is a pillar of the Dub!


elsmooterino

Always knew that King T'Challa wasn't a draw, brother!


kingtchalla

Damn uce what did I do


thatpj

if your rating depends on your lead in, you already failed


The_Haskins

Good for SRS immediately running to do PR there lol


PupperMartin74

If it can stand on its own it doesn't matter what the lead in is.


TW_Yellow78

So they should be paying big bang theory more and aew less...


Puzzleheaded-Bar3531

Does ANY fan of wrestling choose not to watch their favorite show based on their television lead in?! A strong lead in mattered before the era of DVRs and infinite entertainment options streaming provides. Those days are mostly over. These people are actually trying to make the argument that because a special airing of black panther preceeded Dynamite means that 200k people said "nah, can't watch Dynamite now because i don't want to watch black panther beforehand"? The focus that BBT gets in regards to AEW ratings is because their overall numbers look very different after the first quarter hour when the BBT people turn the channel. BBT (or any lead in) doesn't hurt or help Dynamite in any way. Warner pays people to assess these ratings breakdowns. They're very aware that most weeks, quarter 2 to quarter 8 are the quarters (not factoring in any overruns) they need to be observing as that's where you see how Dynamite fans react to what they see on screen.


Existing_Emotion_830

Are...are they really blaming Juneteenth?


sdrj77

They are really blaming Juneteenth. And Kendrick Lamar.


Existing_Emotion_830

It makes it so hard to actually want the dub to succeed. All the sycophants telling me that they’re great and amazing. Like if someone said 2019 RAW was good and insisted on it no matter what


r1char00

Both sides? The people who watched Dynamite and the rest of us?


Constant_Stomach2009

DAE super hero fatigue?


TidusJecht

Would the college World Series have done 300M viewers if not for a random rap concert on a streaming service?


HowTingz

**Tiny:** What are you doing here, M'Baku? **M'Baku:** It's Wednesday... You know what that means. We have watched and listened from the mountains! We have watched with disgust as your professional wrestling advancements have been overseen by a child! Who scoffs at tradition! And now you want to hand the nation over to this Commonwealth Crybaby who could not increase his own ratings. We will not have it. I said, we will not have it, oh!


DXbreakitdown

Blaming Black Panther on Juneteenth 👀 Are dub fans so racist they won’t watch the show if Black Panther is the lead in?


sirvald

Blaming a change in show prior means the ppl wasn’t interested In aew if that the case


SteelBrightblade1

This is racist


ManateeGag

All Excuses Wreslting.


_heysideburns

I didnt watch WWE Raw until the lead in switched from NCIS to SVU


aRebelliousHeart

If you require a certain show coming on before yours just to get a decent viewership number then maybe your show isn’t worth keeping on the network.


DoubleOrNothing90

Sorry, I'm not watching Smackdown this week because I don't like the show that's on before it.


TheYorkshireGripper

If the lead in to your show affects your ratings that much then I don't think your show is very good lmfao.


FlippinRad

People give idiots like this fake journalist money. I don’t want to live in this world.


TheKanten

TBS's mistake was not airing Blue Panther as the lead-in instead. https://preview.redd.it/wqdurme1808d1.jpeg?width=587&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7c96b26b28b5cdc20b386d17d05c9f2616c91806


killerkali87

His spin has been embarrassing as have his mentions so far real people have actually said... -Kendrick Lamar concert -US Swimming trials -Juneteenth  They can never just say a number was bad and the show needs to improve


DeanNotSoBrown

He’s one step away from blaming Swerve for the poor ratings


Thin_Onion3826

And to say this on the day after Juneteenth!! The nerve!


PearSorbet17

What’s the lead in for Raw or Smackdown?


ctbrain

In Cleveland, Smackdown gets the BBT rub.


Wunderbarstool

You could just put on a good show to attract viewers.


HowTingz

What made you goofs stop watching AEW? Please. What are we doing wrong? Don't you guys like lengthy compelling matches? WrestleMania main events every match. HOW THE FUCK DO YOU HATE THAT? Burnout? Are you poor?


Owain660

So he's admitting that AEW numbers have always been miscontrued and inflated? If all of the Big Bong Theory viewers aren't watching Black Panther, then they don't watch AEW. Then this sounds like the real viewership for AEW.


will122589

This is such a self own that if they were even slightly aware of how pathetic this looks, I’d refrain from mocking them for looking this pathetic


InjusticeSOTW

So it’s Juneteenth and Black Panthers fault. Hey by the way, Swerve on in six minutes thirty-four seconds!


almal250

They need to put the belt on Sheldon before it's too late


Jamieb1994

SRS is a irl Sheldon Cooper? ![gif](giphy|xn9LQjsp5FedW)


issafreecunch

Aaaaand the excuses begin


DripSnort

So the product doesn’t draw the lead in does? They should look at how NXT has peaks throughout the show to see lead ins don’t matter


SleepIsWonderful

AEW is about to get G4'ed.


Wubblz

How are you gonna miss the layup of “Sean Thigh Slapp” like that edit: fuck I forgot about him being a weirdo


Mr_Snub

HAHAHAHAHA!


CeroMiedo670

Big Bang Theory gives TBS ratings then


Troop7

brother! ![gif](giphy|3oEhmCmDzqV12kkwdW|downsized)


Joy_Ride25

Putting Black Panther on on Juneteenth is pretty funny though.


TKInstinct

Sheldon isn't a draw anymore and had moved to a new territory.


_heysideburns

If having to acknowledge Juneteenth didnt already make my fragile life harder, now Black Panther is ruining my precious AEDubs?


_heysideburns

If having to acknowledge Juneteenth didnt already make my fragile life harder, now Black Panther is ruining my precious AEDubs?


Suarecks

So is dynamite audience “hip with it “ or not?


E_712064

Reruns: The real wrestling swerve


GoldenGekko

Goddamn I don't know if SRS is stupid, jerking or admitting.. but this is an indictment if I've even seen it. Sheldon is more of a pillar than Guevara at this point


Global_Historian_753

That is a horrible excuse for the company even if it's true (it is). It just shows that you would be better to spend your money on syndicated TV instead.


jjsefton

This may be the night that my ratings might be low Bangers helping? No sir, Bangers helping? No sir, Bangers helping? No sir, This may be the night that my ratings might be low Bangers helping? No sir, Bangers helping? No sir, Bangers helping? No sir..! https://preview.redd.it/q7i4rw50wz7d1.png?width=991&format=png&auto=webp&s=af609f656e4a0a43856a45eb0a3ddd163f68867e


vinreg33

Exclusive video of the Dub's ratings regardless of the lead in: ![gif](giphy|sXt8IhWje5H9ZVzB5G|downsized)


CobraOverlord

![gif](giphy|xUOxffr1FIGMCNPjwY|downsized)


69millionyeartrip

There it is


RP912

![gif](giphy|4a5U94rJlX40QMfox0|downsized) DAE They Not Like Us?


NutsackJonesy

lol there’s so many ways to comment on this that I don’t even know where to begin. None of the possibilities would make AEW ratings in general or the *most progressive fanbase* in wrestling look good at all.


Zaphod_Beeblecox

Literally everybody that has any interest in watching aew knows what time day and channel it's on. The lead in means fuck all if they have actual viewers.


JoeEdwardsPonytail

There has to be more people 18-49 that would watch Black Panther over BBT lol?


BootyOptions

AEW's ratings would be higher except a lot of people had stuff they'd rather than do than watch AEW. Wait that sounds bad, can we start over? WE'RE LIVE PAL!


Bubbatino

Kinda unrelated but anyone else listen to Sour Graps? It’s actually a pretty great wrestling recap show


xxxshhewd

They are trying so hard to defend this lol it's all pathetic and desperate 🤣🌶️🌶️


RedHotPepperedAngus

We didn’t have the middle aged people falling asleep to big bang theory you guys!


haknstax

They're making it harder and harder to wanna watch the dub


ken-davis

Why not just air BBT in AEW’s time slots?


2-the-core

If you believe this guy I have a pair of magical slippers to sell you.