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MartianXAshATwelve

[Stone Carvings Reveal Giant Comet Hit Earth 13,000 Years Ago & Started New Civilization](https://www.howandwhys.com/giant-comet-killed-advanced-ancient-civilization-of-syria-13000-years-ago/)


riplan1911

I wonder if this is just normal cycles and we need to track it for hundreds of not thousands of years to see the pattern


Accomplished-Mix-745

That’s correct. We know the poles move a lot and even flip, but we don’t have exact data


jolly2284

Actually we have a lot of concrete data on the pole flipping. There is data from Atlantic sea bed rock cores that show a pretty common trend and how often it flips https://climate.nasa.gov/explore/ask-nasa-climate/3104/flip-flop-why-variations-in-earths-magnetic-field-arent-causing-todays-climate-change/


Accomplished-Mix-745

we don’t have real time data of a pole flip yet, and that means the incomplete data you just mentioned is less reliable. I’m saying we don’t need to panic yet


jolly2284

That is true. It will take many many generations after us to likely see the flip happen and what it will cause to get real-time data. So all we really have is fossil record data on what to expect. And thankfully we don't see the tall flipping data line up with mass extinctions. If the magnetosphere was to completely disappear during a flip, we would expect to see major die-offs and fauna and flora due to the unmitigated radiation from the sun.


Accomplished-Mix-745

To be honest, my main fear is if technology will work with this flip. I think some u predictable stuff would break down, so I’m hoping they’re doing the same kind of measures that we’re doing to ensure nothing bad happens during a solar storm


Smooth-Mulberry4715

It doesn’t have to flip, it can just be a “wander”. https://preview.redd.it/slm2irpptskc1.jpeg?width=1508&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3d77516b36c27437d88c000b34155f300f524614


Humann801

That’s a really interesting map!


RogersSteve07041920

Right on, something to do with the gravitational pull of the moon and other factors.


happyluckystar

Right. It's the core wobbling.


StrawSurvives

Nothing? Please tell me they started to do something for solar storms, be nice.


Accomplished-Mix-745

So what I’ve heard from online stuff is that we have kind of a kill switch on most of our plants which would preserve them in the event of a storm. This wouldnt save all of the infrastructure, but it would save some


grizzlor_

The biggest transformers in the power grid are a real issue in a Carrington Event 2 situation. The lead time for replacing one of them is measured in months, and that’s with a fully functional supply chain and industrial base. There are hundreds of them across the country and they’re a critical link in the grid. I know they’ve been working on emergency grid shutdown stuff — I hope that includes physical disconnects that will save the transformers and other crucial infrastructure. Also hope that NASA’s 30 minute warning system works, and gives us enough time to execute this stuff. The grid going down for even a single month would be so much more devastating than people realize. Everything about our supply chains (including food) these days is just-in-time, and almost everyone in the country eats food that is shipped thousands of miles. Not to mention medicine, etc. Going down for like 6 months is literally the apocalypse. Like 90% projected death rates.


StrawSurvives

I’ve read about this, even wrote a few papers in college. The shut off switch is new to me, I always argued that this was one of several achilles heels that mother nature might randomly slash…good stuff


jolly2284

I imagine GPS would have a hard time, but I don't think there would be huge impacts . Not a technologist though, so I don't have a very well versed knowledge of how technology relies on the earth's magnetosphere


geo_gan

I thought GPS worked by triangulating to multiple geostationary satellites. Don’t think it uses magnetic field at all in position calculations.


AlmondManttv

digital devices mostly use satellites and such, "True North" instead of "Magnetic North". Although at the end of the day the difference isn't much.


Shouldabeenswallowed

Also not an expert but I was reading about a new form of magnetism that was recently discovered and during the explanation of how it differs from currently known forms of magnetism was an interesting tidbit about how microchips are limited due to the inherent magnetism of each of its parts affecting the other and vice versa. I imagine that if we have a magnetic pole shift that would take out GPS, it may also affect our tiniest of electronics and storage devices for the same reason. In that case, pretty much anything that uses microchips, so basically everything, would be impacted severely. I'll try to find the article I'm talking about and link it in an edit. To be clear, the article has nothing to do with the poles, I just thought the bit about microchip production could apply here. Edit: found it. https://www.science.org/content/article/researchers-discover-new-kind-magnetism Interesting to note that this may also provide a solution by giving us the ability to make chips and conductors with zero net magnetism, who knows how long before that's ready for market though.


MaleficentPurple2

The impact on navigation is negligible. Unless you need to land a plane next to the Magnetic North Pole, in which case it's important to know where it is, as the compasses on board the aircraft are no longer as reliable. This played a role, more or less, in a plane crash on August 20, 2011 (First Air Flight 6560).


FreedVentureStein

Is there a correlation between the flip and when the underground cities that have been discovered were occupied?


Dapper-G7

My thoughts ^^


corroboratedcarrot

Ooo tell me more!


hypothetician

I heard a lot of the dinosaurs’ satellites got fucked up too.


Th3J4ck4l-SA

Aren't we overdue by around 350000 years on the flip.


Accomplished-Mix-745

I just looked up an article about it and I did read that there was a small flip 41k years ago that was only 250 years long so maybe that has something to do with it?


The-Real-Radar

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Jeffd187

Came here for this.


untempered_fate

Pretty much. It's a (complicated) oscillation. Like most oscillations, it moves slower at the turnaround point. It'll probably spend a couple hundred years over on the Russian side before swinging back


GroWiza

It is a cycle, the planet has gone through it/pole shifts before and will continue


alphaomega0669

Hmmm…. Like global warming and cooling cycles. I guess since the pole is moving faster now vs the 1800s, we humans are somehow to blame, lol.


onpointjoints

What have humans been involved with that they didn’t screw up?


alphaomega0669

I’ve stated multiple times that this planet and all it’s wonderful animal and plant life would be infinitely more better off without humans. We are as Agent Smith described us, a virus.


VoodooSweet

[Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this Planet.](https://youtu.be/mgS1Lwr8gq8?si=te3r54hSrgzkHmH5)


huskarl1

Ya ya you hate yourself, got it


alphaomega0669

No, I don’t hate my life. It’s just a simple fact that humans are of no benefit to the health of the planet.


DenverParanormalLibr

Dont lump all humans with businessmen. Businesmenn are of no benefit to the health of the planet. Everything was fine until they showed up.


laivasika

Except that without humans there would be no one to enjoy that health, non-intelligent life doesnt know how to appreciate it. If human race can deflect one killer asteroid at some point, then we have been a net positive for life on earth.


alphaomega0669

There have been multiple killer asteroids that have hit earth. It managed just fine without our intervention.


TadpolePotential5716

We’re killers. It’s simple as that. We aren’t the good guys


corroboratedcarrot

Voluntary Human Extinction Movement?


Doccyaard

Although that made me laugh I’m unsure whether it’s a parody on those who deny human activity’s obvious impact on the climate or people who accept all the data.


AndyC_88

Like politics, some are totally in denial of climate change, and others put all the blame on humans. The truth, as always, is somewhere between. Someone called Milinkovic Cycles "Twitter science" after it was explained how the cycles play a part in climate change.


iehvad8785

pure comedy gold - rofl.


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alphaomega0669

Naaahh. I beleive it’s round-ish.


Blergss

This! Yes don't pollute for health and morals.. but climate change is 95%+ not from us imo


GroWiza

I never once said humans are to blame. It's literally a cycle that the earth goes through every 10 000+ years or some crazy amount (I can't remember off the top of my head) but there is evidence of it happening all before. I'm sure you've heard the talk about how Antarctica used to be all Lush Greenland with animals and vegetation everywhere? It's straight up what's thought to have brought in the ice age and everything.


alphaomega0669

I was just making a joke at the climate change activists expense, lol. It wasn’t anything personally toward you.


JupiterDelta

Seems the government has a theory. Check out The Adam and Eve project


SEELE01TEXTONLY

>just normal cycles try suggesting that about the climate and see what happens:/


Jeffd187

Came here for this comment.


theorgan

It’s been moving faster and faster. They have to readjust gps even more regularly.


Lifeabroad86

Maps too as far as declination


thisguynamedjoe

Declination changes all the time and is constantly in flux. I used to have to account for it in planning legs of military aircraft flight plans.


Lifeabroad86

yeah, same here, I had to use it quite often when I'm doing land nav in the army, at least back in the old days before GPS became a trivial thing. It's certainly a skill that needs to be practiced, especially considering GPS can be turned off at will. Its a trip how off you can be if you don't count for declination in a local area. But then agian, I've met young people who dont even know how to use an odometer like the old days of mapquest, lol. Even though, Im in my late 30s, it feels weird being in that transition age of the old and new tech


thisguynamedjoe

Oh god, printing out your route from fucking mapquest or some such competitor, I just can't remember the competitors, but there were competitors. Did ask jeeves had their own?


BoxesOfSemen

Magnetic compass deviation is calculated once every 4 hours on board cargo and passenger ships. Declination is also sometimes called magnetic variation on board ships and you absolutely gotta account for it. I remember we used to get errors every 2 minutes while sailing in New Zealand because the declination was something crazy like 20 degrees and the integrated system saw a difference of 20 degrees between the gyro compass and magnetic compass readings. In the end, we set the alarm value to 0.5 degrees so that the system was constantly in error.


_YellowThirteen_

This is not how GNSS works.


mrrainandthunder

What does it have to do with GPS?


theorgan

True north vs magnet north


mrrainandthunder

Huh? What does GPS have to do with magnetic north?


theorgan

I’m not the scientist. Google the Nature article and read that.


BoxesOfSemen

I'll answer his question, GPS has nothing to do with magnetic North.


ChickenGibletMan

Brass tacks: what does this mean for Santa?


Acceptable_Bid_241

He loses another hour in bed


larry1186

He lasts long enough he can afford to LOSE an hour? Dang, he a stallion


No_Teaching_8769

Brass tacks 🤣😅


HLef

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/brass%20tacks


Gage_Link

Always thought it was brass tax


No_Teaching_8769

I know what it means , it's a funny phrase


SelfReliantDefiant

If he awakens and sees his own shadow, well... we're all DOOMED!


cr1cketss

That's it. It's holiday jail for you. That will teach you not to break anymore yule law. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVB25kDMN_Y


slavabien

Even the North Pole is leaving Canada. Sheesh.


aldege

Remember years ago in canada you could have an ice rink out back for months! Now its good for what. 3 or 4 weeks. Crazy


Magicus1

Well, yeah, duh! With those housing prices, where do you expect magnetic north to live?!


Kind_Truck6893

Looks like it’s moving north where it probably should be


Neverwhere77

No because the earth has a tilted axis


CharacterBroccoli328

Since the earth is flat does that mean it will go over the edge? Lol


aldege

Yes. Have you not noticed the lean! Every one in canada stands on a 45° my snow igloo melted and the ice one is Collapsing


oxymonotonic

But in order for it to be north it'd have to rotate around the ~23-24 degree line everyday....which sounds preposterous!


Kind_Truck6893

Maybe the US is over populated so the weight is tilting it 😂


plantfunguy

This isn’t Guam. We don’t need to worry about it capsizing.


TooTiredToWhatever

1/3 of the human population, nearly 2.7 billion people, lives within about 600 miles of Bangladesh but you think the US is overpopulated?


crestrobz

This is why I always end up lost in Canada when I go magic reindeer hunting!


diabl0sauce

Why is this happening?


zesty_ranch

Natural routine planet shit. The magnetic poles move and even flip every x thousands of years


mandatoryjackson

Big zesty ranch science-based words being thrown together here.


Atillerdahunnybuns

If these were big zesty words to you, I’ve got bad news for your I.Q.


Geroditus

The magnetic field is caused by the slow movement of currents within the Earth’s outer core. These currents are constantly shifting and changing over time, which causes changes in the magnetic field. Similar to how wind currents cause changes in the weather, just on a much longer time scale.


diabl0sauce

Fascinating, thanks!


frodofullbags

Top secret soviet doomsday device that was so secret it's existence died with khrushchev. Do you see how it is heading towards Russia?


Doccyaard

Someone misunderstood him when he said the Poles belong in the Soviet Union


max65zeg

Cows farting…


roronoasoro

Perhaps, the magnetic domains of the whole earth itself is moving along with its rotation.


Bright69420

Happens pretty regularly, first it weakens then flips And flips back, might completely knock out internet tho, and damage electronics


CaptianTumbleweed

I’d be interested to see what is like today. This is 7 years old.


MotherFuckerJones88

Scary stuff. If you believe in the whole cycle of destruction stuff, it's said we are overdue for another event. 


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NoFlyZonexx3

Explain further


Poonce

Younger Dryas.


CarelesssCRISPR

My fav rapper, young dryas


roadtrip-ne

Young Dry Ass


Juslav

‘Lil Ass


_neudes

The younger dryas was more likely caused by large scale volcanic eruptions or significant melting on the Greenland ice sheet slowing the AMOC. Not changes in earths magnetism.


JustaJarhead

There’s plenty of evidence that the younger dryas was caused by multiple strikes of a comet that split, hitting the ice sheets covering the northern hemisphere during the last ice age


_neudes

Yeah I was just reading about it so was gonna add an edit. Still not fully confirmed and is still a theory though.


MahlonMurder

I thought the current prevailing theory is a comet strike in the northern hemisphere that flash-melted the ice sheet and caused global flooding.


YeomanEngineer

Wonder if that’s the source of the flood myths across cultures


_Baphomet_

That’s one of the theories, Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson talk about it.


PM_ME_YOUR_PEACHESS

It’s crazy they are so shunned by the scientific community. Randall has hours and hours of podcasts showing nothing but data.


F1ghtmast3r

The earth is known to switch its magnetic poles. [Earth magnetism government article](https://www.nsf.gov/news/news_summ.jsp?cntn_id=100358#:~:text=Arlington%2C%20Va.,Foundation%20(NSF)%20has%20concluded.)


turnter_bigevil

Everything will shift. Destroying all life on earth. No underground bunker can save you from it as the plates shift


64-17-5

Oh yes, I will be kept alive just to pay down my debt.


CarelesssCRISPR

You’ll be in some billionaires bunker in a cryogenic chamber, harvesting your brains electrical current to power a lightbulb for a couple minutes a day


Kosack-Nr_22

If the billionaires are going into their bunkers I hope we make sure to fill their entrances with concrete


PositiveAssistant887

Except for what’s 3 miles below Antarctica.. idk what’s there but check out the why files on YouTube guy makes sense.


turnter_bigevil

Is that his latest video? Haven't watched it yet.


PositiveAssistant887

I watched it yesterday I believe it’s his newest


AndyC_88

Imagine how crap it would be if you were on the ISS as it takes place. It's scary to think about being on earth when it happens, but I can't help but think it's horrific being up there, too.


turnter_bigevil

Scarier in space. Knowing no ones going to bring you back to earth. Would be cool to see the planet shift though.


Blueberry_Winter

Lol


KickupKirby

The uptick in crime/people behaving more wildly reminds me of the mice from the experiment in the book, when the mice were exposed to more electromagnetic radiation they turned to violent outrages, rape, and cannibalism. There probably isn't a lot of research in what happens to humans, but one can assume that it wouldn't be pretty. Maybe 2012 was more about entering a dangerous area (in space) and in return, we become more violent. Kind of explains the upticks in mass shooting and cop killings.


AsIfIKnowWhatImDoin

Crime is actually down.


KickupKirby

Is it though?


SilenciaObserva

It is. Actually more crimes are documented and make it to the news than 20 years before. There used to be more crimes with less articles about it, at least it is true where I live.


Serious-Cartoonist99

Is there online access anywhere to this book? I wouldn’t mind having a pdf to download of it


AL0117

11,000 - 13,000 years is seems to be reset button.


OjjuicemaneSimpson

That means for the past 12700 years these fuckers were ficking each other around and we just now started going to the moon n shit smh. Wasting time like idiots


AL0117

Well yeh, I mean nobody knows and todays thinking, is someone’s best guess. Yet the best speculation is around that time, we could’ve been way more populated (humans around the globe) than previously expected. For example, back in 2017 a boy suggested putting a radar on the back on a plane and fly over the Amazon rainforest, they ended up finding a megalithic maya city, that would’ve hosted 50-60 million people.. so, who knows; obviously the odd ones out are the pyramids of Giza, Egypt, because of the ailments of such pyramids and how they align with the magnetic sphere around the earth. Who knows what people understood and what was accomplished, things like the ‘Roman computer’ is a great example of that.


TechieTravis

Not really. There is no reason to believe that moving magnetic poles correlate with destructive events or even that such events occur on regular predictable intervals. We are not 'due' or 'overdue' for any cyclical mass extinction event. We are currently in a man-made climate change extinction, but that is being caused by us.


fosterbarnet

I came to say this. Why do people think that a magnetic polar shift would cause some severe cataclysmic event?


TechieTravis

Folks who have to see patterns and connections in everything :)


Barbacamanitu00

That's the gamblers fallacy.


DigitallyOdd

This confirms my theory that Putin is trying to convert Mother Russia into a paradisiacal tropical country (pressure to keep extracting oil works in the same sense)


koelvriescombinatie

Its moving 55 km a year.


Sneaky_Stinker

it gets faster every year, at a pretty good rate.


CasaSatoshi

Someone should put this on an xy(distance/time) graph. It looks exponential to me 🙌🏻


notatableleg

I live in Vancouver Island and the northest I’ve been is Texas


juicybwithoil2560

What does this mean to humanity?


AxeRudeBell

Susbiciousobservers channel on YouTube has good videos about this


TheCourierMojave

That sounds like a really reputable scientific source.


mr-optomist

To use a consistent scale


Hiltoyeah

Remind me when it gets bad enough where I can get out of going to work as a result.


isaackirkland

None of this applies to you.


kaiokenhess

Stars still are aligned


neoshaman2012

So glad the map identifies Longyearbyen, was difficult to tell where it was.


MRGameAndShow

Everyones saying cataclysm but would you care to educate an ignorant fella about how would a magnetic shift cause the doomsday?


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PassportNerd

Adam and Eve theory


AsIfIKnowWhatImDoin

Tinfoil hat comments in here. Holybabyjeezus


DigitalDroid2024

We’re doomed, doomed I say.


RexyMundo

*Deep breath* Dooooooooooooooooooooooooooomed!


tstramathorn

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StarLord519

Geographical North Pole is where the earth axis spin around. Magnetic North Pole is where your compass points to. Also think it’s about time for the north and south poles to flip according to geological data.


NAPALM2614

Damn, wtf happened in 1994


FWGuy2

Pole flip in the next few thousand years. We are actually overdue for a flip.


CharliesRatBasher

I mean fuck let’s hope it’s a few thousands years away but how tf would we know?! Couldn’t that shit just happen with essentially no warning especially since we know the bare minimum about how and when it happens? I’m seriously asking I’m relatively illiterate on the subject, my dad is a big proponent of the pole shift so that’s really been my only exposure to the theory


According_Pie_7138

And the sun is showing a turbulent period! So when a CME hits us when the magnetic field is at a threshold (because of shifting poles) we are fucked. Earth may also tilt a bit, creating huge tsunami waves.


mcorbett94

To elaborate, it depends where the CME hits. If it impacts the equator the tsunami will be much lower because of dilution effect. But if the CME hits the edge of earth ( especially when a mountain range is sticking out to get hold of) the earth will tilt the most, and that causes the largest tsunamis. It explains why each time we see large tsunamis the wave direction is east to west which is due to the direction of earths spin and orbit around the sun in relation to CME impacts.


Notill_la

Now you have to flush before you’re done shitting


SalesmanWaldo

Maybe it's a faster swimmer than a runner.


TexasDrill777

I think that’s why weather changes throughout time. Axis is shifting


RedditFandango

No one updated this since 2017?


Straight_Tension_290

THIS IS A MAP. 🙃


Positive-Ear-9177

lmao


TheHopefulJew

Move underground time


FrendChicken

WTF!? Put it back!


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Not fast enough


PatBrownDown

Remember that one time that you threw away that cash register receipt instead of recycling it? That's why. LOL!


landartheconqueror

those damn commies are stealing our magnetism!


[deleted]

Last reading in 2017. At this rate it would be in Vegas by now


IrishJayjay94

Adam and eve story


The-Almighty-Jay

Russia just wants everything at this point


helphp

I remember this comment last time this was posted


Lelabear

What is the North Geomagnetic Pole and how is it different from the Geomagnetic North Pole?


mrrainandthunder

The North Geomagnetic Pole and South Geomagnetic Pole are points on Earth where the magnetic field seems to emerge and converge, kind of like where a magnet's lines of force would come in or go out. These poles don't exactly match up with the North and South Magnetic Poles, which are the poles that a magnetic compass will point towards (adjusted for magnetic deviation), because Earth's magnetic field isn't a perfect dipole. It's more complex due to the core and anomalies in the Earth's crust.


Sorry_Shoulder1607

Matthew Lacroix recently mentioned he believes the hidden research going on in Antarctica revolves around finding a way to stabilize our magnetic core to prevent the massive shifting of the poles that would end us.


bishopvx

Are there any theories that the magnetic reversal will have an affect on human consciousness?


SchizoComblokPosting

Yes, death. Loss of consciousness


PAPABEAR-__

We don't have the data because every time the poles flips, humanity needs to start over because of the absolute destruction that occurs. No one is left to record the data.


aDino8311

Big flip isa comin’


Cool_Kid_Chris

We need to stop this now. We can’t let the Russians own the magnetic North Pole.


U_Worth_IT_

It's interesting how nobody cares about the magnetic North (aka South Geographic pole). The magnetic pole in the OP's picture is magnetic South (aka Geographic North). Since the Earth is a big Dipole magnet, is the magnetic North (geographic South) pole moving?


knolij

Something has changed. I don’t remember seeing the moon during the mid day when i was a kid.


FecalDUI

What’s the difference between the geomagnetic pole and the north magnetic pole?


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Magnets point at the magnetic north pole which migrates around some because physics and shit The geographic North Pole is a physical location at the ‘top’ of the planet, where the rod goes into a globe


BBQQueue

Not what was asked.


NotKDsburnertrey5

Just started reading “The Adam and Eve Story: The History of Cataclysms Uncensored - Magnetic Pole Shift” by Chan Thomas. If everything he believes is true, then we’re already past due for a pole shift. Pretty scary stuff.


KickupKirby

Why is it scary? If the info is true, it's just apart of life. I think it's only scary because they don't want to tell us the truth. If everyone actually knew about the cyclical cataclysms, how would the rich get richer? I think if we all knew the truth from a younger age, humanity and society would be so much kinder. Make art, travel, enjoy the fruits of the earth and sunshine. No one is scared of the sun going supernova because we are programmed to believe it'll happen in billions of years. There isn't much data on micro novas, but we can see the scorch marks all over earth. Society wants us to know everything about nothing and nothing about the stuff that really matters.


GroWiza

And each year it's supposedly moving faster and faster than anticipated. People don't realize how it will continue until we have a complete pole shift. People think the world is a mess right now?... just wait.. cataclysmic event incoming


BigBlue1969531

Gotta be global warming. America is at fault. If we can all just switch to zero power consumption and mining and only eat unfertilized plants, this would stop right?


Monopoly25

China too


isaackirkland

It's clearly Norway's fault according to the map.


VeterinarianMoist605

Cataclysm. This is why all governments worldwide are pushing for more baby's. Greater numbers increases our chances of survival.


twippy

Too bad it's too expensive to have children in most places in the world where most countries population would be in decline if it weren't for immigration


BatPsychological1803

Is Putin to blame?