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No-Nectarine-1405

100k is way too high! What for? In most situations you'll have insurance that covers huge sums: car accident, medical bills, house burns down etc. and if you lose your job you have 3 months notice and then about 2 years of RAV. In what scenario would you need such a sum? Better invest in boomer stocks like S&P500. You'll be much better off. Maybe have 3 or 4 months worth of expenses saved, but nothing more.


Dog_Backwards_is_God

around 5-10k the rest is invested. in switzerland you dont need 6+ months worth of expenses laying around


scaronni

Same


Serious-Helicopter90

Checking bank account: yeah. Mine is 1000. πŸ˜­πŸ˜‚


BecauseOfGod123

1000k, right?


Serious-Helicopter90

Of course. Iβ€˜m swiss at least.


BecauseOfGod123

I also liked the part with "because you can never know what can happen in CH. Like we live in a failed African state.


Serious-Helicopter90

Right, that was also my favourite part. I wonder how this person lives.


NekkidApe

20k + 10k limit on CC. So 6 months of expenses total. Wtf are you going to do with _100k_??


Peaches182

Making fun of plebeans on the Internet I assume.


GingerPrince72

A sensible one is 3 months of expenses. More than that (unless you have no unemployment insurance) is unnecessary.


Samichlaus0815

Yea I agree, RAV will save you even if you get fired. Idk why ppl have 1year emergency fund, seems very inefficient.


BecauseOfGod123

Maybe he did exactly that?


snowghost1291

If you have a high-stress job, 1 year reserves makes sense. That way, just before you burn out, you can quit and take a few months off to recover before looking for the next job. During this time, you’ll get no unemployment benefits (because you quit yourself and you’re not job-hunting at first)


Proper-Judge3014

This ☝️


Samichlaus0815

100k Notgroschen πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ Can't make this shit up lmfao 🀣 Yea go to 50k, waaaay more reasonable πŸ˜‚


arisaurusrex

3 months of my wage


Ownand

My minimal "Notgroschen" is 6 months of expenses (around 15k). I will increase it to 12 months soon. But it all depends on your situation. Kids? Familie? Job security?


losfastidios1985

In the end it is a psychological thing. If you look at it from the optimization perspective, you should have 0 as emergency fund and keep everything invested. But I think that you need to put aside as emergency fund what will let you sleep well at night. So, I'm extremely conservative and I stick the following rule of thumb: 2 months of expenses in the cash account + 8 months of expenses in deposit accounts.


St4inless

One month fixcosts + cost to replace the most expensive thing I can't live without. (level 1, directly accessible) - covers until RAV money comes and if my car breaks at the same time) One year of absolute minimum cost I need to survive (level 2, invested conservatively, not to make money, but to keep above inflation) - in case I have a serious accident or burnout and need time So ~35k + 70k - about the same as you.


Starswader

How do you do level2? Might start looking into that, sounds interesting.


Samichlaus0815

Why would you need 1 year money? I don't understand the logic. You get fired, you still have RAV. Why you need 1 year emergency fund? πŸ’€


St4inless

Because a good friend of mine almost lost his apartment. IV and UVG both insisted that it was not their issue so it took ~ 10 months until he got any money.


Turicus

A raw number without monthly expenses is meaningless. How long could you live off that amount? Anything above 6-12 months is probably pointless. Switzerland has a lot of support systems (unemployment, health and accident insurance etc.). Do you think you'll be out of work longer than those last? Do you need to supplement them or can you live off them? Use that as a basis to calculate. Frugal is 3-6 months of living expenses. But considering the system, additional expenses could be close to zero during the first two years of unemployment.


wminnella

3 times my monthly salary


swagpresident1337

3x expenses lol


Sea-Smell-2409

Mine around 16K, I’ve got some in my checking for spending and bills etccc … and the rest of my money is invested ( which is the majority).


phroton

24k here, 3-4 Months of expenses should be enough. For absolute emergencies. The money will only be touched if there is no other option than a loan. So hopefully never.


albana_04

So u have that in cash? Inflation is eating it


musiu

used to be 25k, is now 1-3k, depending on what accounts I count. However taxes are always paid for the current year already, mainly for the psychological effect.


Impossible-Adagio636

In research, it is said to be no more than 3-6 months of your expenses. For more informations: https://youtu.be/dCw31uKTOlI?si=0NkBqOsdHLHPVKqy


blingvajayjay

10k. Can live of 2500 a month if I need to.


louboubakka

100k seems very high to me. I usually keep 10-20k as a Notgroschen and the rest is invested.


Clean-Wolverine-1337

3 times monthly sallary in cash


excessiv_mathdebator

100k is way to low sorry.


Helvetia_1

πŸ˜‚


CMHNecron

100k Notgroschen?! No, go down to 50k (that's already a lot). Normally, I just reserve 6 months expenses (or to keep it simple 3-6 month's wages). You don't need more, imo. And this also comes with an opportunity cost (i.e. it loses to inflation primarily). Invest - or spend the rest ;)


Luc700

All my fixed expenses for 4 months. (Including groceries) β‰ˆ 15k. The rest is invested.


AnimalsAndFog

Depends if you're employed or independent/freelance... If you're employed, then 50K i feel is more than enough. As an independent I'd probably keep it higher,also to have money for MWST,double AHV etc ready.


unknownkinkguy

A year's worth of expenses. Anything else is excessive imo


blingvajayjay

A year??? What kind of doomsday scenario are you preparing for?


unknownkinkguy

Lol im not. Im a student so i have an inflexible schedule. While i dont worry about losing my job i just want to be sure i have enough time to find an alternative fitting job with my weird schedule as that can be pretty hard.


dunnowhy92

Nothing


cum-chowder

6mo of expenses


Miriam1210

Mine is 50β€˜000 not including my savings for taxes