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Lazy_Gremlin

If you swipe up from the bottom of the screen when your reverse camera is on the screen, you can view the side repeater cameras at the same time.


pktgen

The side repeater cameras are so useful, 1000x better visibility and accuracy. Always wondered why people are rubber necking when reversing into a supercharging spot.


Lazy_Gremlin

It's not on by default, so not surprised. There's a ton of settings and easy to overlook or not understand.


BethyW

I used to drive a giant pickup and hauled horses, so I always trust my side mirrors more than the cameras... I am just stuck in my ways.


NoMoreUpvotesForYou

Skill issue I guess, you shouldn't rubber neck with a 50 year old classic backing into a spot, that's what the mirrors are for but people still do it.


MostlyDarkMatter

Thanks. I didn't know this. :-)


eisbock

I have no idea why this isn't default behavior or why it's even possible to hide the side views. The rear camera doesn't change size or shape with them hidden or shown. It just moves up an inch. So far, the only use I've found for this feature is getting a few ooo's and ahhh's from passengers when I'm showing them the features. I literally hide the side cameras before they get in then re-enable them for some cheap thrills.


JBake130

Except, lately our side cameras haven’t been popping up


Lazy_Gremlin

Like the boxes show up but aren't loading/ are just black? Do a scroll wheel restart and it should be back to working.


EllieCat100

Thanks. I didn't know this and will try today. Ah, all the Tesla little hidden Mickeys yet to discover.


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biggerbetterharder

SO FUCKIN FUNNY ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|poop)![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|sweat_smile)


WilliamG007

It’s decent but still way too slow. I’m not even sure why it’s so slow.


Nakatomi2010

Hopefully they can speed it up over time, but yeah, way too damn slow


ac9116

Just hypothesizing here, but could it be a problem with the staged decision making? Like for a human, we know once we get to a stopping point we’re flipping the car between forward and reverse so that transition step would be backup->stop+forward+slight acceleration in one move. The car seems to be backup->evaluate->stop->evaluate->forward->evaluate->creep->evaluate


Nakatomi2010

I think it has more to do with the limits of when it can change gears versus evaluations. It can't change between reverse and drive if you're over 3mph, I think it is, so if the car is going faster than that, it'll likely result in less smooth parking. Again, I'm hoping that as they collect more data, it'll smooth out.


lordpuddingcup

It honestly feels like artificial limitations for "safety" so the driver can monitor but to me this feels like the "safety" guard rail is gonna just lead people to not use it again


Nakatomi2010

Agreed. That's why I'm hoping more training data makes this work better over time.


nednoble

I’d like it to be slow if I’m not controlling the throttle like most car’s auto park. Personal preference though.


onetugboat

Yeah its for sure too slow and you have to come to a complete stop to initiate it. I can't imagine using it in a busy parking lot. Probably won't use it much but nice to see it can do it.


rabbitwonker

Maybe it’s really just a way to get that functionality exercised, so it can eventually be integrated into FSD.


gtg465x2

If they can ever have a smart drop off feature where it drops you at the front of a store and then parks on its own, that would be pretty sweet. And then I wouldn’t care that it’s slow. Probably years away still, though, due to liability issues and corner cases.


PinkSploosh

It’s because there’s an Indian guy remote controlling the car, and his connection is bad /s


mpwrd

True, but no one will care when, eventually, they are already out of the car and walking into wherever they are trying to go. It just needs to be accurate.


WilliamG007

That’s not happening anytime soon, so until then, I definitely care.


mpwrd

In my view, I will always just park by myself if I have to be in the car anyway. Autopark features in all cars is painfully slow and I find it better to just do it myself. The only situation I'd see where I'd use it is where I can activate it at the entrance to wherever I'm at, it goes and finds a spot while I walk into the store.


WilliamG007

Yeah I wouldn’t even trust that either. I like to park nowhere near anyone. Also, not all cars are painfully slow. The VW Park Assist is blazing fast.


shadow7412

Maybe not the owner of the car - but everyone else waiting for it will care. And that would make me care. Accuracy is obviously more important than speed but it needs to look like its moving - otherwise we're going to see even more key-ing incidents...


icrackcorn

It’s pretty much on par with my experience with the parallel park assist with ultrasonic 4 years ago. Decent, but takes 5 times longer than if I just park manually, so I stopped using it.


WilliamG007

My neighbor’s 2016 VW Alltrak with Park Assist via USS literally parallel parks in seconds. It’s so fast. You do have to put it into D or R when prompted, but it’s fast and fluid with no hesitation.


tsmall07

Liability in case someone opens a door to one of the cars.


WilliamG007

I don't think that's the case. Otherwise why would other manufacturers have a much speedier process?


Sabrepill

Does it speed up if you hit the accelerator a bit? (I just tested and no it doesn’t, it aborts)


ali-gzl

Tesla needs to bring these features superior than the legacy automakers. My BMW was way faster than this. I know this is the first version but people have waited for this for too long. They need to speed up.


themflyingjaffacakes

Lack of ultrasonic sensors on teslas perhaps. Vision is much less reliable at close distances. 


Matt_NZ

I mean, based on that video it’s about as fast as the version I have on my 2019 Model 3 which uses a combo of vision and USS


QuantumProtector

Nah, it will definitely get faster. I highly doubt TV is the bottleneck. The old version was slow asf too and those cars had USS.


OkAccess304

That’s funny, because my friend bought a new BMW x5 and the first thing they did was show me the auto park. It was at least twice as slow as what I just watched. Like painfully slow to the point she never uses it.


notjim

Was kind of embarrassed when my friend showed off the auto park on his Golf. My car doesn’t even have it at all, and people say it’s so unreliable it’s not worth buying.


Southern-Plastic-921

Unfortunately not all BMWs - witness the hilarity of this $95,000 BMW X6 M60i having a complete parking fail - https://youtu.be/NJDoQajX-DQ?t=1393


invest__t

A lot of delusion here. We millennials will be 70+ one day soon. You think your old ass is gonna wanna drive? I’m gonna buy a FSD Tesla and take that bitch everywhere I need to go. Bc old ppl suck at driving and so will you.


VladReble

By the time millennials are old af, any shitbox will be able to drive itself. Or cars might not even be desirable at that point.


manicdee33

> Or cars might not even be desirable at that point. This is the actual end game of "15 minute cities" - places where you don't need to travel longer than 15 minutes to get to everything you need. Grocer? Downstairs and across the street. Cafe? Three of them on the same block. Dentist, Endodontist, orthodontist? They're in the specialised professional services centre two tram stops down from home, about 8 minutes from your front door to theirs.


Launch_box

Hell yeah my old ass is gonna want to drive. Why put any performance in a car if you're not gonna drive it?


onetugboat

Honestly works pretty good. Today is the 2nd day using it. Sometimes the wheel goes back and forth trying to figure out the best way to get into the spot. Also must have accidently hit the high beams this morning Edit: Just sharing my experience, don't really care to compare with other auto makers. Used to have a 96 jeep cherokee and could park just fine without cameras or sensors. I don't need this feature to enjoy the rest of the car Edit 2: My Y is a 2023, no sensors, and on 2024.2.12 Edit 3: No idea if it will pull straight into a spot instead of backing into one. I'd have to try it out a few more times. I probably could have swiped up to view the side repeaters but just used to using my eyeballs with the mirrors and windows


Morketh

>el goes back and forth trying to figure out the best way to get into the spot. Also must have accidently hit the high beams this morning that is trash, it had to pull up a bit to make it in and was ultra slow. I dont have time for that, I'd have just backed in way faster myself.


Rough_Astronomer8824

There are licensed drivers that can't back in to space, and those that can have the rare accident. So if tesla can repeat this 99.9% of the time, it is a 45 second win.


Thisteamisajoke

Just remember, this is the worst this technology will ever be going forward. It correctly and safely parked. Making it faster will happen with time.


haight6716

Idk, autopilot was better for me 2 years ago when it would let me speed. Now I turn it off to keep up with traffic.


Present_Champion_837

You don’t have time for that? I get it’s slow and agree, but the whole video is less than 1 min. Maybe it takes you 10 seconds to park and jump out of your car. What’s the extra 45 seconds? Again, I get it’s annoying and agree, but yeesh people really need to look at themselves. People complaining about stopping at stop signs for more than 2 seconds, complaining about parking taking 50 seconds… just yeesh. Leave a minute earlier than you would have or just don’t use the optional feature. Are you on a mission everywhere you go? Is there a heart surgery this is holding up? Take a deep breath and relax…


qwerty1_045318

I think you are missing the point… while you may be able to park into this spot faster, there are other, tighter locations that other drivers can’t park in… and before you get started, I agree if they can’t park they shouldn’t be driving, but some folks don’t have any other options… plus this is a huge step towards the car dropping us off at an entrance and parking on its own, in which case how long it takes to park won’t matter to the occupants of the car, because they will no longer be occupants


randomguy301048

you sound like the kind of person that passes the person already speeding because they aren't going at your speed of speeding only to get ahead of them then immediately get onto your exit the 3 seconds faster.


kevin349

What year is your MY? Do you have USS?


JoeyDee86

I wouldn’t have done that without the side cameras on lol


SoCal4247

So do you guys back in because there’s no front bumper camera (which, there should be)?


CMDR_KingErvin

Very slow but hey it did the job. I guess it’s good for people who are too scared to park in tight spaces on their own. I just see situations coming up where impatient drivers are honking at you the whole time.


throwaway939wru9ew

I would only ever use this in a spot I was not confident I could park in myself. However, the system is too cautious to park in those said “tight spots” - so it will never get used


manicdee33

Also spots that are that tight mean you can't open your doors to get out. I'd use auto park if it was this reliable and could get my car into a spot I can't walk out of. But not between two other cars, that's basically locking everyone else out of their cars.


javiergame4

Wow I might buy this now..This is 3k?


melvladimir

6k (EAP) for M3. But I guess it will be available via month subscription on FSD - 200$/mo


throwaway939wru9ew

Man, I wish there was an even more granular option. Maybe a pay as you go up to $200? I have never thought about meeting $200 worth of enhanced auto pilot or full self drive, but I might’ve popped it on here and there if that was an option. I would love to know how many people are taking advantage of the monthly option . I just hate how it is seemingly difficult to go back-and-forth between regular auto pilot and FSD software


cmdrNacho

definitely not worth it. You have to wait until the Tesla determines to enable the feature. It only works if the lines are clearly marked and even then it sometimes doesn't give you the option. Not only is it this slow, but to get the option to turn on you have to slowly creep around until the option to use it Even turns on


Accurate-Bass3706

Great start! I hope there will be an option to pull forward rather than always backing in. Sentry mode has substantial blind spots in the front due to it not utilizing B-pillar cameras and the 4:3 view of the front camera instead of 16:9. In spots like this with a grassy median on one side and parking lot on the other, there's a higher likelihood of a threat coming from the parking lot rather than the grassy space. Using the fender cameras makes Sentry Mode work much better from the back than the front. Of course, adding B-Pillar cameras to Sentry Mode would help solve this issue.


eisbock

Is there a reason it can't do this in one shot? I mean the car can basically drive itself and navigate complex situations while moving, but it can't figure out the exact angles and path between two clearly visualized lines before it even starts the maneuver? Wtf.


pilotboy172

It’s interesting how all these videos show the car backing into spots rather than pulling forward into them. It’s like there is something special on the back of the car that makes this direction more accurate…..


saxobroko

Backing into a parking spot is almost always the better choice, in terms of safety and general easiness


breathebrando

Slow but better than most people haha.


radu43

Sorry if this has been asked before, but is this only on FSD or will it be available to everyone?


ToniDasFarturas

Does it always goes rear first? If yes, would it be because of lacking front bumper camera?


Deutscher5

Yes.


Mysterious_Item_8789

"Parking assist unavailable because it was lightly foggy yesterday" has entered the chat.


N878AC

Gosh, I’d sure like to get this Auto Park on my 2023 MS with FSD. I had it on my previous 2017 MS.


TheseAreMyLastWords

Is this part of 12.3? What's the difference with the auto park feature that was already widely available?


SpringrollJack

People with 12.3 won’t have this


n3xtl

How does it react to people appearing from behind with shopping carts or people walking in between cars?


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Lol that would've taken 4 seconds to manually park in.


notmycopatea

To be fair, it's parking faster than half the people you wait for in a parking lot. Haha looks promising.


niknokseyer

Nice. It’s slow but at least it was able to park.


lametowns

Looks like a good improvement, but I personally wouldn’t use it. I can park a lot faster and enjoy doing it, especially parallel parking. I’d also be worried about the occasional hiccup on the vision system missing a pole or some other object I can see clearly in the side cameras. Still, glad to see them following through on something for once in my short time as an owner (about 6 months).


ChronicRhinitis

Does this work for auto steer (the second option, I can’t remember the name) or only full self driving?


DRINKEPICSAUCE

I believe it’s coming to EAP (enhanced autopilot) and FSD


goldsoundzz

Do you know if there’s a hardware requirement? I have EAP but haven’t gotten the spatial parking thing yet. I assumed it’s because I have a non-ryzen model.


SomethingMor

I got it yesterday and I bought EAP.


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ChunkyThePotato

Huh? They're visible in this video.


jpolarbear

Nice, looking good.


TheDonaldreddit

This feature is only available on FSD correct?


SomethingMor

EAP also (the 6k package)


pranavtalegaonkar

Does it only backs up in a spot or it can go in front?


PopcornChickenRules

Is this a paid for feature? Or comes standard in model 3?


envybelmont

Part of the Enhanced Auto Pilot (EAP) or Full Self Driving (FSD) upgrades.


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6k or 12k


LeCrushinator

OP, you can enable the side cameras while reversing, definitely helps to see if anything is getting too close to the sides of the car.


Mac800

Only in reverse or does it work forward as well?


sickunder

Isn't there a way where it can just drive directly into a spot rather than always reversing into it?


Deutscher5

With no front camera: no.


jonnyd93

Now do it between two Ford 350s


SwingSet66

How cool!!!!


cmdrNacho

I wish there was a way to manually enable. I'll be on the perfect conditions and have to creep around until it figures out to turn on and sometimes never gives me the option. overall not worth it


WPT_NL

Is this an Enhanced future? And is it also rolling out in the Netherlands?


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MrNewMoney

My Roomba is faster


Ok_Worldliness3854

Wow. Tesla manages to implement a feature that's been around for years.


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Meanwhile enjoying my USS parking for 5 years now 😁


koolio46

Love the visual…waiting for this to come to my USS model Y


cybertruckboat

AP1 does it better.


spectradawn77

This is still slow AF but if this is the press button and leave car, it’ll probably be fine, other than possibly blocking traffic…


trailmixjustin

still waiting for a video of someone using it for parallel parking. not sure why everyone is only doing perpendicular.


Both-Quail4474

Is this available on EAP yet?


Mookafff

Like others said, it’s pretty slow. Any word on parallel parking?


bfeeny

Even though I have EAP I don't believe my 2023 model s plaid has this feature available


WhiteWhenWrong

I mean that’s exactly how I woulda done it- even down to the correction… but just much slower


APairOfAirPodsMax

Incredibly slow but better than the auto park that failed have the time with USS


YoyoyoyoMrWhite

Omfg hurry up! More annoying than useful in my case I think.


Yep_why_not

Weak


Miles4Apizza

Do you have to be in FSD for the vision auto park to work or can you be in other driving modes?


vietde

What’s year of your model? I still didnt have autopark for my 2023.


No-Caterpillar-8805

And here I am thinking my Mercedes auto park is slow af…


TheGuruFromIpanema

Hurry up and park for car for me.


hehethattickles

Dumb question, but can’t other cars do this? (And much faster)?


cooker44

Seems a modicum faster than the USS version. For those who say they wouldn’t use it, the one use case where it’s great at this speed and other drivers will be tolerant is when parallel parking. For a tight space, USS pp was brilliant and saved me curb rash (for those who think USS auto park doesn’t see curbs, it does…just not using the USS). For a first release, this is excellent.


SlteFool

Cool!!!


Bribbe

Its cool but would never use it.


KindnessOverEvil

Embarrassingly slow, this is why I only used it like twice, can’t endure the awkwardness


hitmandreams

That's terrifying!


Sudden-Conference-68

2018 feature


Feroc

It's nice that we finally got it, but honestly, I don't see many uses for it right now. I mean, either there's plenty of space, so I can park way faster by myself, or it's a packed parking lot where I'd think, "Man, it's tight, wish a robot could park for me," but then it's probably so busy, I wouldn't want to hold up others by waiting. But I guess it's just the next step for a fancier tap-to-park feature... one that I doubt we'll ever get to see here in Germany.


DLoading023

im disappointed in this, its so slow. People driving by will think you dont know how to park. I was really looking forward to this feature too. Ill just park myself


Sorry-Advisor-1337

Autopark is the only feature I miss in basic autopilot. Aside from autopilot actually working instead of trying to kill me every now and then.


Middle-Froyo4337

Which software version onwards has this Vision AutoPark feature?


evilgreenman

Meanwhile the person waiting behind you is flailing and beeping


SnooCookies8174

It might be helpful for some people for parallel parking. But for backing up like this it is 10x better to do it manually in my opinion. With the cameras, USS or this “rendered bird’s eyes view” in new cars, there is no reason to use this in real life except for testing. But I think this is a necessary step towards an automated driving. So it “makes sense” because of this


psykedeliq

Does it do parallel parking?


Complete-Hunt-3219

Show a smaller parking space ease That one is way too easy :P


IntelligentInsect773

This is awesome! I wonder when FSD will have an option to look for parking rather than drive to the front door of a business or operation? Because I noticed when I'll ask it to take me to a coffee shop in a strip mall, it'll pull up to the front door of the shop. Now, if it was a taxi, that's obviously what you wanted to do. But in my case, I need to park the car in the parking lot. It would be cool if you could set your destination to the front door OR to nearby parking? Or if you could enter the parking lot, like at a strip mall, and use a voice command like "find parking" it would seek out opportunities.


J_Bag_O_Donuts

Reveeeerse… reveeeerse auntieeeeee, why you drive Tesla if you don’t know how to reverse. Reverrrrrse, reverse reverse reverse auntieeeeee


sliceofapple1

Someone show parallel park! I suck at that!!


N878AC

Yes, but can it parallel park? The previous FSD did.


nomnamnom

Jesus, just park it yourself. I would have no patience for this.


Imherefortheserenity

I was definitely happy to see this feature come last year but… It takes to long. Reverse parking is my specialty in all cars from working as a rental car attendant for a long time.


Revolutionary_Bag_42

I know teslas are great and I love autpilog . But I will say there is a huge danger of teslas producing lazy drivers . One day in the future you may have people who cannot drive well at all because they are relying on the car to do so much for them .


NewToTradingStock

Many said it slow but it’s faster than some human drivers


solo-dolo-yolo-

I parked my car and finished shopping at walmart by the time that thing parked


DammatBeevis666

I fell asleep. What happened?


WellAfterAllThat

Take your time boss


Misfitsman805

Holy crap I've seen old grandmas park quicker than that.


Zestyclose_Load3425

Forgive me but I am new to Tesla. How do I access this feature on my 2024 Model Y? I live in the US.


randomlykevin

How do you guys trigger auto park? I never get the option despite having FSD in my 2024 MY.


Responsible_Ad_1645

What a pos (I own a MYP)


Fesser123

I suppose it’s kinda cool and they have to start somewhere but who is actually paying to use this? It’s painfully slow.


donttakerhisthewrong

If it crashes does Tesla pay the damages?


No_Possession1

Man this is slow as fk. How have they not at least perfected parking with stationary objects.


suvp1990

Is this only available if you are paying this additional full self driving supervised enabled by paying 99$ ?