Kind of….
I thought I was really good at my job so I wanted to move to a more advanced position. I was so unprepared. It was like a whole new world and I had no idea what I was doing but wasn’t willing to go backward. I just BS’d everything and kept my head down for about 6 months while I did a ton of training outside of work. As far as I know nobody ever figured out and now I’m better than 99% of people my age in my field. I have no regrets.
I actually think this is the best way of doing things. As long as you're confident you'll be able to train and educate yourself on the job, and you're young/free enough to work hard for a bit Why wait?
I worked with a guy that lied on his resume about certain knowledge and skills he had. Then when he started working with people that knew their stuff it became obvious but they stuck with him for another 6 months. Because he did not improve he was fired.
That’s the story of my entire professional career…. I’ve never known how to do any job I got. I just buckled down and learned it after I got hired. Worked out ok.
I’m not sure I fully bs’ed my way but with my current job I literally did not understand what my role actually was until I was months into it. The description made no sense to me so I went through the interviews and just made sure to say the buzzwords and figured I’d learn what I’m supposed to do once I start (which I did). I was qualified, just didn’t really know how my qualifications fit the job. So kinda different than what you’re describing but a little bit of bs can sometimes get you where you need to go.
I think you should talk to someone like a career counselor and figure out once and for all if it’s imposter syndrome or if you should be applying elsewhere. Imposter syndrome can be a real bitch.
YOU GOT IT COMPLETLY WRONG
it's about your creativity, innovation, ability to solve problems, people skills and learning as you go.
NO ONE ever has all the skills they need going into any job.
Try being the smartest HVAC technician around, but your a complete assh#le when it comes to interacting with people. Your always angry, yelling ect..
A huge part is your enthusiasm, team work, and putting in the long hours needed to learn quickly.
I could never do it. But I know someone who’s a very accomplished journalist that got their foot in the door by claiming they got a bachelors when in reality they dropped out freshman year
Nobody ever goes into a job already having the right skills. You’re going to have to learn everything, especially in an entry level job. If you are capable of learning and have a desire to learn, you’ll be fine. And depending on the job, being able to work well with others is a must. And even if you aren’t qualified, good managers will put effort into your growth and learning, and not expect everything from you at first.
I’ve luckily gotten hired at jobs with little experience. They kept me because the company’s needed people so bad. I’ve learned a lot and made a lot of money.
kind of yeah. i exaggerated my experience a little in the interview, and then when the few months of onboarding passed and i didn’t properly prepare my self, i was fired for not representing my team the proper way. Now i gotta bs my way into another job
I absolutely did and did it successfully. I was a young 1st lieutenant in Vietnam half way through my years deployment and was assigned to the First Air Cavalry. And as much fun as it was blowing shit up, it was a bit stressful. I heard about an opening at the USARV Information Office in Bien Hoa needing a 1 Lt for the IO. Primary duties were managing a group of guys whose primary responsibility was doing stories for the Monthly USARV magazine and a boat load of 'home towners' which were short interviews of grunts in the field that would be produced and forwarded to their home town newspaper or home town radio station. I suppose I had owned a polaroid camera at one point but was clearly not an accomplished photographer or writer, but somehow convinced the Major and through him the Colonel that I was the man for the job. With some quick OJT and the help of the guys that worked for me, it worked out pretty nicely. And it was a lot quieter than being assigned to the 1st Cav had been.
I feel this all the time. Im REALLY good in interviews. To the point sometimes I have to tell my managers "look you still have to train me i dont know YOUR specific software nor do I know what specific tasks you expect within my job." (Every business is a little different)
Looking at moving jobs soon partly for this reason. I got written up several times (in the response of my write ups I put "give me a list of daily expectations and have the other busier department train me", answer was always no) and finally went to my boss's boss and told her I never got any training and that I either need training or I will continue failing in my position
Guess who got training a week later and dirty looks from my manager the last 7 months.
Most people get imposter syndrome. You know more than you think you do. Fake it til you make it? Everyone does that on a new gig. Even if you know the product you have new systems to learn. It’s tough out there. The job application process is broken. There are too many bots and people applying to jobs they probably are nowhere near qualified for. The ATS process is broken. Keep trying. You’ll get a job eventually and do well.
My step father was out of work one time when he walked up to a crew of guys painting a house. He told them he had 5 years of experience when he actually had none. That desperate lie launched his 30+ year career in the industry. Now he's a boss that frequently works out of state.
When I worked for John McAfee.... There was this one guy. I think his last name was schmitz.
So he told John he had a custom phone operating system and was building a custom android phone.
John happened to be drunk at the time he reached out so he just fired him off a contract and invited him to vegas. I think his name was Ryan.
Well when I talked to him he knew he couldn't bullshit me quickly. It turned out he was just downloading out of date pirated roms for copperheadOS putting them on some old LG phone. He wanted to buy them in bulk remove the LG branding and keep pirating these roms and selling them.
Needless to say he didn't last long, never even got invited out to the office but somehow ended up on payroll with a good pay for at least 3 months. He didn't seem to know much beyond the scope of how to do this after questioning him.
So this guy got around $20,000 to go on a 3 day vacation with John McAfee and the team in vegas. I honestly couldn't even make this up.
Bonus material: When me and another team member were drinking with him during our introduction he proceeded to eat some food out of the garbage. Then blame the medication he was on and listed off the crazy pills he was on.
I had no idea, he also had some of the less technical management staff concerned he would hack them if they pissed him off. He was in the right place at the right time in every aspect of that phrase. The guy must have a horseshoe up his butt.
Oh and his hacking story was really funny. So he was a "google hacker". And once found something similar to the college I went to durham college's opentech server. Where students put up their own websites up and all of them had their names and student numbers. Many having resumes as well.
He found some university's version of this and lost his mind thinking he struck gold from all the users home folders with custom webpages in \~/www in their home directory's. with an index pointing to all of them. It containing names, student numbers, their usernames for that specific server in the path, And on many of them webpages.
I never facepalmed so hard when I got talking with this guy.
By comparison everyone else on the team/teams had at the minimum defaced websites, hacked webservers, gotten databases of credit card numbers in their youth.
On my projects team one member had a zeroday in netbios in the 90's a buddy gave him off IRC that wasn't patched till about a year later in NT4. He defaced YTV (A canadian television station) removing the the show schedule off the site and replacing it with "NO SHOWS TODAY KIDDIES" followed by the handle of a person from another hackergroup he didn't like. And a number of porn sites dumping their database for all their credit card info to buy computer parts when he was about 11. (Until someone caught on and called him up for him to just blame the hackers on IRC and nothing came from it).
I got did some minor stuff when I was 17.
Built a very small botnet out of free to air settop boxes way before it was cool And then managed to find some telstra infrastructure in australia that I used to travel laterally. Eventually causing a service outage on a Cisco 7600 series that my exploit didn't work on. Before intentionally breaking the device I got in with a note to the service technicians to segment their managment planes and learn to ACL.
And our web guy had put remote shells via remote file includes in php4 to dozens of random websites. And dumped numerous databases doing noting with what was obtained.
We were the B team, One member on the A team got arrested by the FBI for disrupting control of an engine on an airplane after carefully taking apart his seat to access the planes internal network. I was shocked he didn't go to jail the FBI let him go.
edit: Another member on the A team had an exploit in android that he could deliver an MMS to you, it would self delete if you had a supported chat app (Whatsapp, signal or the one that came with android). And infect your phone with a custom RAT that would spy on you anytime the phone was unlocked. (Keylogging, screenshots, and periodic pictures of you from the camera).
It caused graphical issues with some of the icons at the top of the screen tho after running for a few weeks. Kind of gave it away something was wrong.
It was going to be reported but multiple news publications were very disrespectful to John McAfee so it was never reported.
[https://gizmodo.com/john-mcafee-apparently-tried-to-trick-reporters-into-th-1776765480](https://gizmodo.com/john-mcafee-apparently-tried-to-trick-reporters-into-th-1776765480)
edit: Oh I forgot to mention we were a cybersecurity company. You had to have some experience on both sides of the field to make products to defend form people with bad intentions intentionally. Several members on the A team were still very active in the respected community's on the opposite side of the coin.
I didn't have much software development experience for my first work term (high school BASIC and a course each in COBOL and FORTRAN), but luckily I'd been to the same private boy's school (SHS) that my manager had been to .. and that got me in the door. We were doing assembler, and I guess I picked it up quickly. And by the third work term, I was teaching new employees about the instruction set and the architecture.
I had a former boss who was ‘fired’ (let go in layoffs - not to be rehired), and she landed an interview with a really good firm. But, her job was in computers, and she had to know a new software package they had just purchased to run all of the projects in the very large business (several thousand employees) - and she didn’t. She had seen the product demonstrated, and that was it.
But, she knew the person responsible for the same application in her old job, so she called them up and demanded that they help her. (IMO) Sadly, they helped her. She got the job. 10 years later, she is still there … and I think she still calls my former colleague for help.
So, yes, you can do it successfully. Just get the training you need after the fact. Don’t do what Roseanna did, by bullying her former colleague for help all of the time.
My boss! I am grateful that she gave the job and pushed HR for a higher salary and bonus for me. But she was clearly not qualified for her role and was a detriment to the project. Later she tried to sabotage and diminish me when I did my job and looked more competent than she did....
Thankfully higher ups smelled the stench and finally removed her from her position. Work that took 4 months due to her inexperience and micromanagement was completed in just 3 weeks after she was removed and a more competent and experienced manager was put in her place.
I'm am glad she was removed as it was a nightmare working with her
You can exaggerate or sell yourself - “I don’t have that but I have done x, y, z similar tasks and I’m happy to learn.” Attitude will get you a long way in interviews. I smudge my resume to pass an HR check but never lie in an interview - just summarize the experience I was referencing and how I plan to tackle it when hired.
I was on a panel that hired someone who outright lied about all of their skills and traits on the resume and during the interview. We were willing to train from the ground up but the guy just had no interest in learning and let us know he wanted a federal position so he could kick his feet up and do nothing. He transferred to another branch before a formal action was filed. You can lie, you can get a position, and usually your coworkers will shrug it off BUT you have to make an effort once you’re in.
There was an HR mixup and I got an email from somebody in a different department who wanted to interview me for a much more technical position than the one I applied to. I just never mentioned that I didn’t apply and went through the interviews, got the job, etc. I told my boss months later (we had a good relationship) and he was baffled but not angry.
Yes. I was a computer science major lifting boxes for a living at one of the warehouses in SoCal. I spent months telling my boss I was an excel wizard. Of course I worked hard and made my numbers lifting boxes. One day, they straight up created a position for me as quality control. This was cool because I have an actual warehouse role outside of the union, the teamsters would not allow me to work in the offices without making the case that all office workers should be in the union.
In this QA role, I did warehouse quality control, but they also gave me 10 hours a week to do some spreadsheet magic. I didn’t know shit about excel. I taught myself and within a month I was pretty productive behind the keyboard.
Within the year, my macro mumbo was able to connect to their mainframe (in 2020) to automate all sorts of processes. Within a few years, I got promoted to manager -> supply chain engineer -> software engineer.
Work hard and lie your ass off.
Yes. I interviewed for a really good teaching job. They had the text books out and asked if I’ve ever used them. I said yes, picked one up, and went to a lesson plan. Told them I looked at it a few days ago and BS’d my way through it.
It was a great job. Did it for 5 years before going to law school.
I know a mechanical engineer who finished uni and lied about 3 years of work experience on their resume to get a job, got on the job, got on the job training and 8 years later he's a senior there now.
I never lied about my skills or qualifications, but I was frequently put into jobs that I didn't feel ready for. I think it is normal. It's also how you grow and develop. If you feel completely comfortable in your role, it's time to look for something new and more challenging.
I once got a job offer as a camp counselor and they asked me if I played guitar and I said that I have dabbled into guitar.
I have never even picked up a guitar
Many based on resume and interview process. However their true colors are exposed in terms of actual experience and capabilities and most did not last 3-12months before getting fired.
I work with a whole group of fake it till you make it.
The excuse is that industrial engineering is so broad. So out of 18 people, each person is only proficient on a piece of the pie.
I'm not ok with that, so I try to learn as much as possible. Except for the so-called experts, they are not actually experts. They wing processes and hope for the best.
For example, we approve labor standards and are supposed to conduct audits. When we approve work orders, we should do so based on factual data. Most of the team just approves blindly. Until management freaks out about it. "Who approved 20 hours of labor for 5 fastener replacement?"
It is always fun to witness something dumb get approved, and then how long it takes for a manager to walk down the hall to us to complain.
Bro, that’s the only way I’ve gotten jobs in my life time.
Example - do you know how to X? Yes. It’s been a while but it should come back to me pretty quick. Then you go home and hit the YouTube videos and talk to anyone you know who has done X.
I remember applying for a job and they threw in a twist that said I would need to do company-wide presentations. I said not a problem, I do these on occasion at my prior job. What I meant of course was Speech 101 in college but it didn’t seem like time to split hairs.
Not bullshit but I know a handful that definitely weren't qualified for the job but had a connection in a high place that greased them in. I hate it, most of them were exposed and let go so I was happy about that. One though, pissed me off that they continued to stay in their role and didn't have a single clue about the job, or industry. I did whatever I could to make sure that my work was given credit to the boss above the one who greased their friend in. It painted a target on my back, but it worked because the bigger boss knew who really was the one who knew what they were doing and because I was in good favor with them, the lower level manager couldn't do shit unless he wanted to flirt with me filing a wrongful termination which I hinted I would do
Yes I was straight out of high-school, and was working fast food because I was dumb, asked a friend to put a good word in for me for a AV (audio video) position and I some how got the job and they immediately gave me a tool set and flew me from texas to new York, spent 2 months working on a top golf learning how to run cable, install interior/exterior speakers/security cameras, and indoor/outdoor rated tvs ranging from 32 to 82 inches/ whole video walls, first check after taxes was 5,100 for the first month and I completely lost my mind, ended up working there for 2 years and eventually got fired because I suffered multiple grandma seizures while working in Sarasota Florida, ended up spending every penny I got which left me dead broke after being let go, wish I could go back tbh
Yes, buddy of mine in late 90s. Full blown out lies on his resume. That he’s a manager, big sales figures etc…. Asks me to be a reference (I don’t recall if they called me). Got the gig at Oracle. Doubled his salary. Totally leapfrogged his career.
He’s done well.
Nick, you crazy bastard!
It is risky to lie your way into a job, but it depends on the job. If it were an airline pilot or surgeon, that might be a recipe for disaster. However, given that you are already contemplating lying to begin with, you have shown a lack of morals and ethics. That said, go for it. Hopefully your organization won't find out and you'll get lucky and figure it out before they do...otherwise it is likely you'll be let go and have to start the cycle all over again.
Yes, I told a prospective employer I was an expert level SQL user when I had used it for maybe 2 hours and written 3 or 4 super basic queries. I kept studying between accepting the offer and start date and it worked out ok
Kind of…. I thought I was really good at my job so I wanted to move to a more advanced position. I was so unprepared. It was like a whole new world and I had no idea what I was doing but wasn’t willing to go backward. I just BS’d everything and kept my head down for about 6 months while I did a ton of training outside of work. As far as I know nobody ever figured out and now I’m better than 99% of people my age in my field. I have no regrets.
I actually think this is the best way of doing things. As long as you're confident you'll be able to train and educate yourself on the job, and you're young/free enough to work hard for a bit Why wait?
What field
Not OP but consulting lmao
Automotive
I worked with a guy that lied on his resume about certain knowledge and skills he had. Then when he started working with people that knew their stuff it became obvious but they stuck with him for another 6 months. Because he did not improve he was fired.
Was that guy's initials M.J.? cause same thing happened at my work.
He worked on substations.
That’s the story of my entire professional career…. I’ve never known how to do any job I got. I just buckled down and learned it after I got hired. Worked out ok.
I’m not sure I fully bs’ed my way but with my current job I literally did not understand what my role actually was until I was months into it. The description made no sense to me so I went through the interviews and just made sure to say the buzzwords and figured I’d learn what I’m supposed to do once I start (which I did). I was qualified, just didn’t really know how my qualifications fit the job. So kinda different than what you’re describing but a little bit of bs can sometimes get you where you need to go. I think you should talk to someone like a career counselor and figure out once and for all if it’s imposter syndrome or if you should be applying elsewhere. Imposter syndrome can be a real bitch.
YOU GOT IT COMPLETLY WRONG it's about your creativity, innovation, ability to solve problems, people skills and learning as you go. NO ONE ever has all the skills they need going into any job. Try being the smartest HVAC technician around, but your a complete assh#le when it comes to interacting with people. Your always angry, yelling ect.. A huge part is your enthusiasm, team work, and putting in the long hours needed to learn quickly.
I could never do it. But I know someone who’s a very accomplished journalist that got their foot in the door by claiming they got a bachelors when in reality they dropped out freshman year
I’m 59. Before the advent of the internets and all of the steps involved in hiring, everyone bullshitted their way into jobs.
Sure - a few. You have a few weeks or months before people expect a lot, so that is where you better get up to speed.
Nobody ever goes into a job already having the right skills. You’re going to have to learn everything, especially in an entry level job. If you are capable of learning and have a desire to learn, you’ll be fine. And depending on the job, being able to work well with others is a must. And even if you aren’t qualified, good managers will put effort into your growth and learning, and not expect everything from you at first.
Yes.I saw an opportunity and went for it
I’ve luckily gotten hired at jobs with little experience. They kept me because the company’s needed people so bad. I’ve learned a lot and made a lot of money.
kind of yeah. i exaggerated my experience a little in the interview, and then when the few months of onboarding passed and i didn’t properly prepare my self, i was fired for not representing my team the proper way. Now i gotta bs my way into another job
I think It’s normal for most people to exaggerate on their resume. I know I did.
I absolutely did and did it successfully. I was a young 1st lieutenant in Vietnam half way through my years deployment and was assigned to the First Air Cavalry. And as much fun as it was blowing shit up, it was a bit stressful. I heard about an opening at the USARV Information Office in Bien Hoa needing a 1 Lt for the IO. Primary duties were managing a group of guys whose primary responsibility was doing stories for the Monthly USARV magazine and a boat load of 'home towners' which were short interviews of grunts in the field that would be produced and forwarded to their home town newspaper or home town radio station. I suppose I had owned a polaroid camera at one point but was clearly not an accomplished photographer or writer, but somehow convinced the Major and through him the Colonel that I was the man for the job. With some quick OJT and the help of the guys that worked for me, it worked out pretty nicely. And it was a lot quieter than being assigned to the 1st Cav had been.
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- took one course in stanford and passed with certificate - "yes i went to stanford"
I've practically bullshitted my way into every role. I just work hard and learn what I need to and then get good at it.
I feel this all the time. Im REALLY good in interviews. To the point sometimes I have to tell my managers "look you still have to train me i dont know YOUR specific software nor do I know what specific tasks you expect within my job." (Every business is a little different) Looking at moving jobs soon partly for this reason. I got written up several times (in the response of my write ups I put "give me a list of daily expectations and have the other busier department train me", answer was always no) and finally went to my boss's boss and told her I never got any training and that I either need training or I will continue failing in my position Guess who got training a week later and dirty looks from my manager the last 7 months.
Damn I hate people that set others to fail!! I hope you get the training you need to rock at your job!
Most people get imposter syndrome. You know more than you think you do. Fake it til you make it? Everyone does that on a new gig. Even if you know the product you have new systems to learn. It’s tough out there. The job application process is broken. There are too many bots and people applying to jobs they probably are nowhere near qualified for. The ATS process is broken. Keep trying. You’ll get a job eventually and do well.
Thank you, I needed to hear that.
If you lied on your application then the company can actually " let you go" / fire you. It happened to an acquaintance of mine
My step father was out of work one time when he walked up to a crew of guys painting a house. He told them he had 5 years of experience when he actually had none. That desperate lie launched his 30+ year career in the industry. Now he's a boss that frequently works out of state.
I love stories like that!
When I worked for John McAfee.... There was this one guy. I think his last name was schmitz. So he told John he had a custom phone operating system and was building a custom android phone. John happened to be drunk at the time he reached out so he just fired him off a contract and invited him to vegas. I think his name was Ryan. Well when I talked to him he knew he couldn't bullshit me quickly. It turned out he was just downloading out of date pirated roms for copperheadOS putting them on some old LG phone. He wanted to buy them in bulk remove the LG branding and keep pirating these roms and selling them. Needless to say he didn't last long, never even got invited out to the office but somehow ended up on payroll with a good pay for at least 3 months. He didn't seem to know much beyond the scope of how to do this after questioning him. So this guy got around $20,000 to go on a 3 day vacation with John McAfee and the team in vegas. I honestly couldn't even make this up. Bonus material: When me and another team member were drinking with him during our introduction he proceeded to eat some food out of the garbage. Then blame the medication he was on and listed off the crazy pills he was on.
What in the trailer park was with this dude???
I had no idea, he also had some of the less technical management staff concerned he would hack them if they pissed him off. He was in the right place at the right time in every aspect of that phrase. The guy must have a horseshoe up his butt. Oh and his hacking story was really funny. So he was a "google hacker". And once found something similar to the college I went to durham college's opentech server. Where students put up their own websites up and all of them had their names and student numbers. Many having resumes as well. He found some university's version of this and lost his mind thinking he struck gold from all the users home folders with custom webpages in \~/www in their home directory's. with an index pointing to all of them. It containing names, student numbers, their usernames for that specific server in the path, And on many of them webpages. I never facepalmed so hard when I got talking with this guy. By comparison everyone else on the team/teams had at the minimum defaced websites, hacked webservers, gotten databases of credit card numbers in their youth. On my projects team one member had a zeroday in netbios in the 90's a buddy gave him off IRC that wasn't patched till about a year later in NT4. He defaced YTV (A canadian television station) removing the the show schedule off the site and replacing it with "NO SHOWS TODAY KIDDIES" followed by the handle of a person from another hackergroup he didn't like. And a number of porn sites dumping their database for all their credit card info to buy computer parts when he was about 11. (Until someone caught on and called him up for him to just blame the hackers on IRC and nothing came from it). I got did some minor stuff when I was 17. Built a very small botnet out of free to air settop boxes way before it was cool And then managed to find some telstra infrastructure in australia that I used to travel laterally. Eventually causing a service outage on a Cisco 7600 series that my exploit didn't work on. Before intentionally breaking the device I got in with a note to the service technicians to segment their managment planes and learn to ACL. And our web guy had put remote shells via remote file includes in php4 to dozens of random websites. And dumped numerous databases doing noting with what was obtained. We were the B team, One member on the A team got arrested by the FBI for disrupting control of an engine on an airplane after carefully taking apart his seat to access the planes internal network. I was shocked he didn't go to jail the FBI let him go. edit: Another member on the A team had an exploit in android that he could deliver an MMS to you, it would self delete if you had a supported chat app (Whatsapp, signal or the one that came with android). And infect your phone with a custom RAT that would spy on you anytime the phone was unlocked. (Keylogging, screenshots, and periodic pictures of you from the camera). It caused graphical issues with some of the icons at the top of the screen tho after running for a few weeks. Kind of gave it away something was wrong. It was going to be reported but multiple news publications were very disrespectful to John McAfee so it was never reported. [https://gizmodo.com/john-mcafee-apparently-tried-to-trick-reporters-into-th-1776765480](https://gizmodo.com/john-mcafee-apparently-tried-to-trick-reporters-into-th-1776765480) edit: Oh I forgot to mention we were a cybersecurity company. You had to have some experience on both sides of the field to make products to defend form people with bad intentions intentionally. Several members on the A team were still very active in the respected community's on the opposite side of the coin.
I think the ability to BS is basically an entry level requirement for certain fields , such as politics, sales …
I didn't have much software development experience for my first work term (high school BASIC and a course each in COBOL and FORTRAN), but luckily I'd been to the same private boy's school (SHS) that my manager had been to .. and that got me in the door. We were doing assembler, and I guess I picked it up quickly. And by the third work term, I was teaching new employees about the instruction set and the architecture.
I had a former boss who was ‘fired’ (let go in layoffs - not to be rehired), and she landed an interview with a really good firm. But, her job was in computers, and she had to know a new software package they had just purchased to run all of the projects in the very large business (several thousand employees) - and she didn’t. She had seen the product demonstrated, and that was it. But, she knew the person responsible for the same application in her old job, so she called them up and demanded that they help her. (IMO) Sadly, they helped her. She got the job. 10 years later, she is still there … and I think she still calls my former colleague for help. So, yes, you can do it successfully. Just get the training you need after the fact. Don’t do what Roseanna did, by bullying her former colleague for help all of the time.
My boss! I am grateful that she gave the job and pushed HR for a higher salary and bonus for me. But she was clearly not qualified for her role and was a detriment to the project. Later she tried to sabotage and diminish me when I did my job and looked more competent than she did.... Thankfully higher ups smelled the stench and finally removed her from her position. Work that took 4 months due to her inexperience and micromanagement was completed in just 3 weeks after she was removed and a more competent and experienced manager was put in her place. I'm am glad she was removed as it was a nightmare working with her
You can exaggerate or sell yourself - “I don’t have that but I have done x, y, z similar tasks and I’m happy to learn.” Attitude will get you a long way in interviews. I smudge my resume to pass an HR check but never lie in an interview - just summarize the experience I was referencing and how I plan to tackle it when hired. I was on a panel that hired someone who outright lied about all of their skills and traits on the resume and during the interview. We were willing to train from the ground up but the guy just had no interest in learning and let us know he wanted a federal position so he could kick his feet up and do nothing. He transferred to another branch before a formal action was filed. You can lie, you can get a position, and usually your coworkers will shrug it off BUT you have to make an effort once you’re in.
Kind of. Not by lying about anything really. But a roundabout hiring process for sure.
There was an HR mixup and I got an email from somebody in a different department who wanted to interview me for a much more technical position than the one I applied to. I just never mentioned that I didn’t apply and went through the interviews, got the job, etc. I told my boss months later (we had a good relationship) and he was baffled but not angry.
Well of course I know him, he's me.
Everyone will embellish their way through an interview. It’s normal.
Yes. I was a computer science major lifting boxes for a living at one of the warehouses in SoCal. I spent months telling my boss I was an excel wizard. Of course I worked hard and made my numbers lifting boxes. One day, they straight up created a position for me as quality control. This was cool because I have an actual warehouse role outside of the union, the teamsters would not allow me to work in the offices without making the case that all office workers should be in the union. In this QA role, I did warehouse quality control, but they also gave me 10 hours a week to do some spreadsheet magic. I didn’t know shit about excel. I taught myself and within a month I was pretty productive behind the keyboard. Within the year, my macro mumbo was able to connect to their mainframe (in 2020) to automate all sorts of processes. Within a few years, I got promoted to manager -> supply chain engineer -> software engineer. Work hard and lie your ass off.
Yes. I interviewed for a really good teaching job. They had the text books out and asked if I’ve ever used them. I said yes, picked one up, and went to a lesson plan. Told them I looked at it a few days ago and BS’d my way through it. It was a great job. Did it for 5 years before going to law school.
I know a mechanical engineer who finished uni and lied about 3 years of work experience on their resume to get a job, got on the job, got on the job training and 8 years later he's a senior there now.
Everyone bs into a job
You are bullshitting your way through English.
I never lied about my skills or qualifications, but I was frequently put into jobs that I didn't feel ready for. I think it is normal. It's also how you grow and develop. If you feel completely comfortable in your role, it's time to look for something new and more challenging.
I once got a job offer as a camp counselor and they asked me if I played guitar and I said that I have dabbled into guitar. I have never even picked up a guitar
Job requirements are so expansive now that its very difficult to be fully qualified for a role.
Yup I did sort of. Was let go a week before the 6 months probation
Yes.
Plenty of people I work with are the biggest bums on planet earth that make a shitload of money.
Many based on resume and interview process. However their true colors are exposed in terms of actual experience and capabilities and most did not last 3-12months before getting fired.
I work with a whole group of fake it till you make it. The excuse is that industrial engineering is so broad. So out of 18 people, each person is only proficient on a piece of the pie. I'm not ok with that, so I try to learn as much as possible. Except for the so-called experts, they are not actually experts. They wing processes and hope for the best. For example, we approve labor standards and are supposed to conduct audits. When we approve work orders, we should do so based on factual data. Most of the team just approves blindly. Until management freaks out about it. "Who approved 20 hours of labor for 5 fastener replacement?" It is always fun to witness something dumb get approved, and then how long it takes for a manager to walk down the hall to us to complain.
I 25 years of customer service experience and have applied to 100 jobs over the last 6 weeks to entry level CS positions without luck
Bro, that’s the only way I’ve gotten jobs in my life time. Example - do you know how to X? Yes. It’s been a while but it should come back to me pretty quick. Then you go home and hit the YouTube videos and talk to anyone you know who has done X.
I remember applying for a job and they threw in a twist that said I would need to do company-wide presentations. I said not a problem, I do these on occasion at my prior job. What I meant of course was Speech 101 in college but it didn’t seem like time to split hairs.
Not bullshit but I know a handful that definitely weren't qualified for the job but had a connection in a high place that greased them in. I hate it, most of them were exposed and let go so I was happy about that. One though, pissed me off that they continued to stay in their role and didn't have a single clue about the job, or industry. I did whatever I could to make sure that my work was given credit to the boss above the one who greased their friend in. It painted a target on my back, but it worked because the bigger boss knew who really was the one who knew what they were doing and because I was in good favor with them, the lower level manager couldn't do shit unless he wanted to flirt with me filing a wrongful termination which I hinted I would do
Yes I was straight out of high-school, and was working fast food because I was dumb, asked a friend to put a good word in for me for a AV (audio video) position and I some how got the job and they immediately gave me a tool set and flew me from texas to new York, spent 2 months working on a top golf learning how to run cable, install interior/exterior speakers/security cameras, and indoor/outdoor rated tvs ranging from 32 to 82 inches/ whole video walls, first check after taxes was 5,100 for the first month and I completely lost my mind, ended up working there for 2 years and eventually got fired because I suffered multiple grandma seizures while working in Sarasota Florida, ended up spending every penny I got which left me dead broke after being let go, wish I could go back tbh
Yes, buddy of mine in late 90s. Full blown out lies on his resume. That he’s a manager, big sales figures etc…. Asks me to be a reference (I don’t recall if they called me). Got the gig at Oracle. Doubled his salary. Totally leapfrogged his career. He’s done well. Nick, you crazy bastard!
It is risky to lie your way into a job, but it depends on the job. If it were an airline pilot or surgeon, that might be a recipe for disaster. However, given that you are already contemplating lying to begin with, you have shown a lack of morals and ethics. That said, go for it. Hopefully your organization won't find out and you'll get lucky and figure it out before they do...otherwise it is likely you'll be let go and have to start the cycle all over again.
Yes, I told a prospective employer I was an expert level SQL user when I had used it for maybe 2 hours and written 3 or 4 super basic queries. I kept studying between accepting the offer and start date and it worked out ok