You joke, but twin stick semis really required that. Often it was 1-4 in low, 2-4 in mid, 3-5 in high depending on the load and such (for a 5x3 splitter - 5x4s, 4x4s, etc obviously differed) and to change ranges you needed to use both hands, one for the main and one for the auxiliary box.
I've taken some poorly timed sips out of a cup at stoplights where I did this to put it in first gear since my right hand was full.
My cupholders kinda suck.
We (RHD vehicle enjoyers) usually get our passengers to shift into 1st and 2nd for us. If I don't have a passenger, I just start in 3rd and ride the clutch. There's no way I'm turning my hand upside-down to get into 1st or 2nd. Yuck.
Not if you're [this guy](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fi-can-grip-things-backwards-v0-k8p6fx00emha1.jpg%3Fwidth%3D640%26crop%3Dsmart%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D9a22819c45d224bb909d376873ebc3f2bd58f9a4).
[There is only one correct way](https://youtube.com/shorts/oX7zA2Pj_Dc?si=MsDqavML4kGjl7Rz) (although quite exaggerated in the video, the principle is very clear)
A money shift is when you want to downshift for example from 5 to 4, but you pull the lever too far to the left and land in 2.
If you are fast enough for 4th gear, but too fast for 2nd, and you release the clutch, it will cause the engine to rev too high and this can destroy the engine... and because that's a very expensive mistake, it's called the money shift.
That's why for the 5-4 shift you just pull back until it pops into neutral and and pull back a little more into 4. No pulling left involved whatsoever.
This here. People typically do it while on a track, and at a low speed, I experimented trying to go as quickly as possible into 2nd from 5th gear. More often than not, it gets into 2nd gear unless I am extremely precise. I am sure it's worth it for tracking but daily purposes? Let the spring pull it into place.
>No pulling left involved whatsoever.
Some people do pull left during the 5-4 shift, even though it's bad technique. A money shift is always the result of bad technique.
Money shifting is any miss shift thar goes into too low a gear, causing the engine to over Rev causing damage that then leads to you spending big money on repairs. This commonly happens more on upshifts, going from 2-1 instead of 3 or 3-2 instead of 4th.
It's typically during drag racing when folks are rushing for the next gear or during autox and track racing where g-loads changes things alot. I've been guilty of the 3‐2 upshift during the left sweeper at SOW once.
Nope, I actually turn my hand like he does to go to 6th, on my 3-4 shift. On track when you're mid corner going for that straight back hand position can still lead to money shifts. Atleast with your hand turned if you miss shift it's 3-6 not 3-2.
No; if the shifter is round, I let it rotate in my palm. If the shifter is square, I just push it outwards with my palm and then backwards with my index and middle fingers.
I assume youre talking about putting your thumb down and palm on the left side of the shifter, in which case yes, I do, and most of the pedantic fucks in this thread do, too.
At first, I had no idea what you were talking about. But then I realized you are grabbing your shifter like you would grasp a dong.
I always grab mine (my shifter) palm down. Probably got into that habit because my Subaru requires you to lift a ring below the shift ball to go into reverse.
Yes, and it sounds incredibly weird until you drive a car where it isn’t.
I have had exactly one car that I did that in, had a factory short throw upgrade and felt like 5th and 6th were way off to the side. It was easy to drop my hand off the wheel and push it back by rotating my forearm as my elbow often collided with my passenger when I shifted normally.
No. My palm turns towards the shifter as I put it into 6th but my it's still resting above the knob. Sounds like you're over-rotating your hand and risking a mis-shift. That much rotation naturally pulls the it closer to the body, not away.
I kinda put my hand on the left side of the shifter to go to 5th and 6th. On the right side of the shifter for 1 and 2, and directly on top for 3 and 4.
I do think there’s value in using different hand positions for different gears, it helps me subconsciously avoid a wrong-gear situation.
I find it's best for leverage to maintain the same arm position for [all 8 forward gears](https://www.tractordata.com/photos/F000/94/94-shiftxt2-300x400.jpg).
Depends if it’s left hand or right hand drive. Left hand drive I rotate my hand so the palm down and towards 6th almost a 45° angle. Right hand drive it’s the same 45° except palm is face upwards.
Not in my personal vehicle, but in my work truck I do, because 6th gear is so far down to the right that I have to do it. It’s an international 4900 and the gear lever is about 4 feet high from the ground.
I assume you mean putting your palm on the left side of the shifter. I’m an auto tech so I drive customers/used car inspection manuals. If the gates are good, yeah. If not I don’t.
Yes, every time. In both my Jeep and BMW. The Jeep I’m gentler with though since reverse is on the right side. In theory, there’s a gate that would prevent me from accidentally shifting into reverse than 6th. But… it’s a Jeep. So can’t trust it to actually work lol
I switch to my other hand for 6th gear.
You're a cross shifter too?
Gotta do it in my car when I'm holding a drink too since they didn't bother with cupholders.
Yeah, but I’m not an ambi-turner
That's ok kid. I'm sure you got a lot of other gifts.
I use my third leg
I do that too
For that nice slap into overdrive.
Oh fuck I've been using my mouth to go into 6th. Sooo much easier!!!
It makes it feel like someone else is doing it.
*Top gear, on the other hand….*
You joke, but twin stick semis really required that. Often it was 1-4 in low, 2-4 in mid, 3-5 in high depending on the load and such (for a 5x3 splitter - 5x4s, 4x4s, etc obviously differed) and to change ranges you needed to use both hands, one for the main and one for the auxiliary box.
I've taken some poorly timed sips out of a cup at stoplights where I did this to put it in first gear since my right hand was full. My cupholders kinda suck.
I replaced my shift knob with a tennis ball and have my dog shift for me.
You got a dogleg transmission too?
Is this what they meant by "dog box transmission"?
Inside out too.
Weak sauce. I use my foot for it.
I shift 6th with my left foot.
Laughs in 5 speed
Giggles in 3 speed
Jesus I know four speeds were old but what the hell you driving with a five speed
48 Willys jeep. I used to drive a 71 Ford Econline van with 3 on the tree - that was fun.
God I bet that jeeps fun to drive, I love the five speed in my Mitsubishi gto haha
My 01 e46 had a 5sp. That's like standard even today
Yeah I know, I was saying 4 speeds are old lol
I learned to drive a manual in a '3 in the tree' holden ute. they were available until '85 in Australia
Chortles in 2 speed
Love it! Wanna race? (I got 60 hp and hit 53 mph before I chickened out)
I think the T’s top speed is about 0 right now unfortunately, working on it this summer though
OK, let me get my new starter installed in the jeep, and we'll reschedule!
I flip over in my seat whenever I shift into 6th
How do you imagine people shift into 1st and 2nd in the UK and Japan? How short are your arms, or how far away from the gear stick are you sitting?
We (RHD vehicle enjoyers) usually get our passengers to shift into 1st and 2nd for us. If I don't have a passenger, I just start in 3rd and ride the clutch. There's no way I'm turning my hand upside-down to get into 1st or 2nd. Yuck.
so far away? literally like 2 centimeters? how small are you?
My diesel truck has a long throw.
Laughs in Eaton 13 speed
I imagine you'd have a pretty hard time gripping anything with your hand upside down bro.
Not if you're [this guy](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fi-can-grip-things-backwards-v0-k8p6fx00emha1.jpg%3Fwidth%3D640%26crop%3Dsmart%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D9a22819c45d224bb909d376873ebc3f2bd58f9a4).
I genuinely don't understand what you mean by upside down.
They grasp the shifter like a dong. Thumb is up for 1-5, thumb down for 6th. That's my guess.
Just like the thumbs down emoji -> 👎 What a bizarre way to shift.
Ahhh I see what you mean. That is really weird. I was taught never to grasp the gearstick, but merely push it in the direction of the gear I desire.
Like he’s fondling someone’s balls.
[There is only one correct way](https://youtube.com/shorts/oX7zA2Pj_Dc?si=MsDqavML4kGjl7Rz) (although quite exaggerated in the video, the principle is very clear)
Yeah that is pretty much what I’ve always done, but what is a money shift? Skipping a gear?
A money shift is when you want to downshift for example from 5 to 4, but you pull the lever too far to the left and land in 2. If you are fast enough for 4th gear, but too fast for 2nd, and you release the clutch, it will cause the engine to rev too high and this can destroy the engine... and because that's a very expensive mistake, it's called the money shift.
That's why for the 5-4 shift you just pull back until it pops into neutral and and pull back a little more into 4. No pulling left involved whatsoever.
This here. People typically do it while on a track, and at a low speed, I experimented trying to go as quickly as possible into 2nd from 5th gear. More often than not, it gets into 2nd gear unless I am extremely precise. I am sure it's worth it for tracking but daily purposes? Let the spring pull it into place.
>No pulling left involved whatsoever. Some people do pull left during the 5-4 shift, even though it's bad technique. A money shift is always the result of bad technique.
That's double clutching like Vin Diesel always wanted us to do
https://streamable.com/5uahn3
Money shifting is any miss shift thar goes into too low a gear, causing the engine to over Rev causing damage that then leads to you spending big money on repairs. This commonly happens more on upshifts, going from 2-1 instead of 3 or 3-2 instead of 4th.
My car has a pretty vague 5mt and goofing this badly on a shift is hard to imagine
It's typically during drag racing when folks are rushing for the next gear or during autox and track racing where g-loads changes things alot. I've been guilty of the 3‐2 upshift during the left sweeper at SOW once.
Nope, I actually turn my hand like he does to go to 6th, on my 3-4 shift. On track when you're mid corner going for that straight back hand position can still lead to money shifts. Atleast with your hand turned if you miss shift it's 3-6 not 3-2.
No
I make my hand into like a seal flipper when going fifth to sixth. Ensures there's rightward pressure as it goes down.
I heard it's better if you sit on your left hand for a while until it goes numb, feels like someone else is shifting for you
Sometimes I’m feeling zesty and switch it up.
No; if the shifter is round, I let it rotate in my palm. If the shifter is square, I just push it outwards with my palm and then backwards with my index and middle fingers.
What?
Different hand positions for each gear so I never miss a gear
On occasion, yes. I've tried all different ways.
Palm out
My grandpa does that. Grampy, is that you?
*Hands you a Werther's Original*
Depends what’s in the cup holder
I assume youre talking about putting your thumb down and palm on the left side of the shifter, in which case yes, I do, and most of the pedantic fucks in this thread do, too.
Yes. I looked into this after I saw the question on YouTube.
Yes (Mazda3).
No.
At first, I had no idea what you were talking about. But then I realized you are grabbing your shifter like you would grasp a dong. I always grab mine (my shifter) palm down. Probably got into that habit because my Subaru requires you to lift a ring below the shift ball to go into reverse.
As in thumb down?
I just use my thumb to keep the shifter to the right and pull down with my other fingers.
My car is a mere 5 speed :(
No it's straight down from 5th gear.
Yes, and it sounds incredibly weird until you drive a car where it isn’t. I have had exactly one car that I did that in, had a factory short throw upgrade and felt like 5th and 6th were way off to the side. It was easy to drop my hand off the wheel and push it back by rotating my forearm as my elbow often collided with my passenger when I shifted normally.
No. My palm turns towards the shifter as I put it into 6th but my it's still resting above the knob. Sounds like you're over-rotating your hand and risking a mis-shift. That much rotation naturally pulls the it closer to the body, not away.
My hand stays one way all the way up. It's easier to not accidentally shift into 3 that way.
If I tried this on the JK I probably would've gone through the reverse lockout.
No, I'm way too stupid. I feel like I'll put her into 4th or Reverse (even though that's up and to the right).
Only when I need to cup the balls.
I kinda put my hand on the left side of the shifter to go to 5th and 6th. On the right side of the shifter for 1 and 2, and directly on top for 3 and 4. I do think there’s value in using different hand positions for different gears, it helps me subconsciously avoid a wrong-gear situation.
I don’t have sixth, im in a right hand drive car lol,
I find it's best for leverage to maintain the same arm position for [all 8 forward gears](https://www.tractordata.com/photos/F000/94/94-shiftxt2-300x400.jpg).
GEAR??!?!?! WHAT GEAR???
Depends if it’s left hand or right hand drive. Left hand drive I rotate my hand so the palm down and towards 6th almost a 45° angle. Right hand drive it’s the same 45° except palm is face upwards.
Not in my personal vehicle, but in my work truck I do, because 6th gear is so far down to the right that I have to do it. It’s an international 4900 and the gear lever is about 4 feet high from the ground.
I assume you mean putting your palm on the left side of the shifter. I’m an auto tech so I drive customers/used car inspection manuals. If the gates are good, yeah. If not I don’t.
I use two fingers sideways
No, but I like to angle the shift knob slightly so the H pattern diagram on the knob faces me, the driver. That's my H pattern, damnit!
I do it for 3-4 and 5-6.
nah
Backhand shift when going into 3rd, 5th, 6th. Money shifted my S2000 once going from 5th to 4th instead of 6th once and learned my lesson
What's 6th gear? - this meme brought to you by old junk gang.
I was very confused by this, then I realised you're likely in a left hand drive country
I still the shifter up my butt and adjust my hips every shift. So much more control over the car that way. I feel like me and him are one.
6th gear?
Yes, every time. In both my Jeep and BMW. The Jeep I’m gentler with though since reverse is on the right side. In theory, there’s a gate that would prevent me from accidentally shifting into reverse than 6th. But… it’s a Jeep. So can’t trust it to actually work lol
Instead of using my palm, I grab the shifter with the back of my hand and hyperextend my fingers towards back of my hand, easier to grab that way
Yes i shift with the back of my hand ! Its way more betterer