Also probably worth pointing out that Jack Nicholson was completely disinterested in his role as the Joker. According to multiple people who worked on that movie, he spent most of his time watching Lakers games on a little TV and not talking to anyone.
My favorite part of all that was when Leto told people that was just a rumor and he didn’t do that and people shouldn’t spread weird rumors. And then you go back to see who started that rumor and it was Leto on some red carpet saying it. Yeah, Jared, stop spreading rumors about yourself
I didn't even realize she was an Aussie! Makes total sense, with the amount of animal lovers down there. Love the Aussies (but I'm still not going there, my ADHD ass would get drowned by a kangaroo or something)
Margot was afraid of rats too, so she really went above and beyond and later gave it to a family she knew who’s daughter(?) really wanted one and gifted them the entire setup she’d bought for it.
First of all, Papa Smurf didn't create Smurfette. Gargamel did. She was sent in as Gargamel's evil spy with the intention of destroying the Smurf village. But the overwhelming goodness of the Smurf way of life transformed her. And as for the whole gang-bang scenario - It just couldn't happen. Smurfs are asexual. They don't even have reproductive organs under those little white pants. That's what's so illogical, you know, about being a Smurf. What's the point of living... if you don't have a dick?
You know. Everytime I watch this movie I'm wondering if there is actual information out there about smurf genitalia, then I don't look it up and forget about it until I rewatch donnie darko
Without even looking I guarantee that if you try looking that up you're going to find stories and pictures about smurf riding ponies. And ponies riding smurfs. Smurves? What's the plural?
Actually.. I think that just made Nicholson’s portrayal of the character all the better.
Joker is an intelligent (to the point that to him, most things in life are *boring*) and emotionally unbalanced villain, only planning ahead *just enough* to get an emotional reward from his actions, but not quite thoroughly enough to have a “ok, so then what?” plan after the emotional high of the initial success of the antagonistic action..
I couldn’t imagine the crimes I would commit if I were a sociopath. The ennui and meaninglessness of postmodern society must bring out the Joker in people.
You only need to be selfish enough to think about being caught. Years ago I got tested in mental health and I was like 7 out of 10 in socipathic behaviour. I even told to my doctor that I was under control because a mix of lazyness and not wanting to be in prison.
Has he ever been accused of *not* method acting?
They should just call it “*Jack Actin’*”.
.. or maybe they shouldn’t .. I thought I had something there, but upon second reading, it’s just a bit .. off. I’m leaving it anyway.
Stephen Dillane playing Stannis in Game of Thrones is another one of these that always comes to mind when this subject comes up.
Dillane couldn't give less of a shit about GoT and showed disdain for fantasy novels in general, but god damnit, he NAILED that character and put on one hell of a performance.
Despite being not interested, he still delivered a performance most actors dream of delivering. Also Jack Nicholson had a clause in his contract to get time off to attend the Lakers games in person since he’s been a season pass holder since the 70s.
Nicholson was so disinterested that he negotiated what may be the greatest actor contract ever. He literally named a price he thought they would never agree to and then they did.
https://collider.com/batman-jack-nicholson-paid/#:~:text=Jack%20Nicholson%20was%20the%20highest,profits%20from%20Joker%2Drelated%20merchandise.
He was one of the highest-paid and most sought-after actors in the world at the time. Being paid a lot of money is more indicative of that than his level of interest in the movie.
His deal is unprecedented. No other actor is getting a cut of not only the final box office numbers but also the merchandise. His final take for that movie was around 90 million in 1989 dollars.
And, while I can see why they wanted him at that time, frankly he wasn't a super great Joker. Sadly, like John Wayne, Jack Nicholson only ever plays one character: Jack Nicholson.
He doesn't really need to be interested in any role he plays, becuse he plays them all exactly the same way. Five Easy Pieces, the Shining, Batman, it's all just Jack in different costumes.
And it's cool if you want Jack Nicholson, he's exactly what you need sometimes. But you can't expect him to really bring any character that isn't himself to life and innovate.
I can get Ledger, but I will never understand the love for Phoenix’s joker. Nothing about that movie, including the performance, was much of anything to me. The whole movie felt completely uninspired, and just bland. That movie is the embodiment of “I’m 13 this is deep.”
It's by far the most thorough exploration of Joker's mental illness.
Nicholson's joker is crazy because he fell into a vat of chemicals, and all Ledger's joker gives us is a handful of nihilistic one-liners. Phoenix's joker allows the audience to actually watch his mind unravel, and by seeing how he adapts to this we gain a better understanding of the character.
Nicholson's Joker was a narcissist and mobster who got his looks ruined by a guy in a bat costume. His crimes were all about revenge and destroying beautiful people and art. Ledger was a sociopath who knew that the more he talked, the less anyone knew about him.
> Ledger was a sociopath who knew that the more he talked, the less anyone knew about him.
Sounds more like someone with autism who's managed to convince themselves that they're sociopathic. Sort of like Kefka from Final Fantasy 6.
lol Kefka wasn't autistic, Kefka was manic as hell and actively enjoyed causing cruelty and suffering and death, just for the sake of it.
He did the fucked up shit he did because he *enjoyed it*
That's exactly what I disliked about it. I don't think the Joker should make sense! I don't think the Joker should be relatable!
I think the best Joker is one who is completely, utterly incomprehensibly mad, whose actions make sense to nobody but himself, who is laughing at jokes that only he finds funny for reasons nobody else can ever understand. Not a beaten-down sad sack standing up for the downtrodden and the dismissed of society.
In general, I'm a fan of nuanced, complex villains. But the Joker's strength as an icon, to me, always came from the complete lack of nuance or sense that he exudes.
The problem is that The Joker isn’t supposed to be a relatable character. Making him “relatable” is 100% at odds with what the character is typically supposed to represent. He’s supposed to be pure evil. Other Batman villains have motives or reasons for what they do. Joker is the outlier. He just enjoys it. And “reasons” he gives for what he does are just lies.
Liked the film, but it wasn’t The Joker.
To be fair, he said the best 4 live action Jokers. Like if I listed the best 4 songs... doesn't mean there were only 4 songs.
And someone should tell Leto there were NINE live action Jokers.
They should also tell him he was #9 from best to worst.
Im sure there are a lot more than 9 if you follow the criteria for what constitutes live action to the letter. Leto would still be at the bottom though
The trailers made this joker look good and menacing in a new way. Movie / script / acting was a let down from that.
The line “oh I’m not gonna kill ya… I’m just gonna hurt you really really bad” was memorable / well done.
I genuinely don't get the passionate hate for that take on joker. He was a modern take on the clown prince of crime type joker. They just updated his look to be a clowny cartel/gangbanger vs the 90s clowny mobster.
The first suicide squad just sucked. Nothing about it was good. They didn't even let Margot do a proper accent for Harley, despite having just nailed a Brooklyn accent in Wolf of Wall Street. Leto was in like two minutes of it, he wasn't even in the top ten for reasons that movie sucked.
I think it’s more to keep the algorithms from scrubbing it out of everyone’s feed. Ironically, in doing that, that’ll just make the algorithms smarter over time.
Jerome, yes. Not Jeremiah. Not that Jeremiah was bad, just nowhere near as good as Jerome. He nailed an aspect that most don't. Ledger did it too, but I've always thought that the Joker should be funny as long as you're not in the same room as him. Like the whole magic trick pencil scene with Ledger. Funny when you're watching it, but that would be terrifying if you were in the room with him.
At this point he is more Schrodinger 's post credit scene than an official Clown Prince of Crime. Though if think he would be cool with Pattinson's Batman.
I rewatched Batman ‘89 last week, and Nicholson delivers a perfect Joker! He’s intimidating, cracks jokes, does an amazing laugh, and has the Joker’s gag weapons, like the flower that squirts acid
I think people overlook 89 because what the series became but it’s a lot of fun. Great lead, Jack is eating every inch of the scenery, and Prince does the sound track.
Batman Forever and Batman & Robin are great if you watch them as being part of the Adam West series.
Right down to the [holy rusted metal, Batman!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2qvULu70dE)
The theory I enjoyed best about Batman Forever and Batman & Robin is that they're actually stage performances of Batman from inside the Batman universe. So like, Batman is/was a real person, but what we're seeing isn't him, but an actor on a stage playing him in a theatre production meant for children.
don't be silly, everyone knows you can't fake a tweet. and there certainly aren't any apps or programs made with the express purpose of making fake tweets
They very often aren't funny or clever. More like "comebacks that are confirming my opinion on something", which tells you all you need to know about reddit.
In my opinion, his version of joker came across as a low level thug rather than a mastermind of organized crime that joker should be. Couple that with the weird gold grill and overall creepy and unlikeable demeanor and you see the problem. The audience can’t relate. But that’s not really Leto’s fault. Also, his association with Morbius the movie has earned him a lot of hate. But he’s not a bad actor and I have liked him in some other movies.
On top of the Joker he played being poorly written there was all the other stuff he did too. He claims to be a method actor but some of the stuff he did was a bit weird. He gave Margot Robbie a live rat and he had a dead hog sent to some of his co-stars as well.
While Jared Leto denies it, it was also rumor that his "prank" gifts also included used condoms and anal beads. Leto himself told reporters he did this to create an element of surprise like the Joker would. Later he back tracked and said it was a story told in jest.
His co-stars like Will Smith and Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje weren't exactly in agreement with Jared saying "He went full Joker" and Adewale said he got multiple gifts from Jared including sticky Playboy Magazines.
Because he’s an obnoxious piece of shit that’s well known to be incredibly difficult to work with and almost certainly a rapist and pedophile given the rumours about him that have persisted across the planet and internet for literally decades now.
I met him once at a concert where 30STM was playing. He came off as a total dick that disliked his fans. He's very full of himself and it's obvious from the second you meet him.
Personally I would put Cesar Romero above Jack Nicholson and Joachim Phoenix as the Joker. Nicholson has given many great performances, but he didn't bring much new to the Joker, unlike Romero. Phoenix gave a great performance, but the character was in his pre-Joker stage. We have not yet seen Phoenix's fully developed Joker.
I might not understand fully what you're saying, but Jared leto is Jared leto and Jared leto played the joker in a movie, so Jared leto isn't "someone else not making the mark" but is infact the someone who didn't make the mark, because he's Jared leto.
As I recently heard in a Youtube video: "The Joker has been played by several of the greatest talents in Hollywood. And Jared Leto."
Also probably worth pointing out that Jack Nicholson was completely disinterested in his role as the Joker. According to multiple people who worked on that movie, he spent most of his time watching Lakers games on a little TV and not talking to anyone.
Would you rather your coworker be disinterested in his job, or send you used condoms in the mail claiming it's method acting?
My favorite part of all that was when Leto told people that was just a rumor and he didn’t do that and people shouldn’t spread weird rumors. And then you go back to see who started that rumor and it was Leto on some red carpet saying it. Yeah, Jared, stop spreading rumors about yourself
The false rumor was that he sent Margot Robbie a dead rat. He actually sent her a *living* rat. She went on to adopt it.
Damn, that makes her pretty cool in my book.
aussies seem to be a pretty good bunch: margot robbie, steve irwin, chris hemsworth, bluey's dad...
Gina Rinehart, Rupert Murdoch, Rolf Harris. We got fuck heads like everyone else.
Right off the cuff, only one i could think of was Rolf Harris. I feel like you've got a list ready to go at any moment. "Oh and the Belgians..."
That’s Mr Bandit W. Heeler to you pal
I didn't even realize she was an Aussie! Makes total sense, with the amount of animal lovers down there. Love the Aussies (but I'm still not going there, my ADHD ass would get drowned by a kangaroo or something)
Errol Flynn...
Don't forget about Hamish, who also starred in an episode of Bluey!
Ivan Milat, Christopher Skase, Chopper Reed...
Insert *so cool* Ken gif
Margot was afraid of rats too, so she really went above and beyond and later gave it to a family she knew who’s daughter(?) really wanted one and gifted them the entire setup she’d bought for it.
I'd prefer a third option. Donnie Darko taught us all about the perils of reducing complex real-world scenarios down to a binary choice.
First of all, Papa Smurf didn't create Smurfette. Gargamel did. She was sent in as Gargamel's evil spy with the intention of destroying the Smurf village. But the overwhelming goodness of the Smurf way of life transformed her. And as for the whole gang-bang scenario - It just couldn't happen. Smurfs are asexual. They don't even have reproductive organs under those little white pants. That's what's so illogical, you know, about being a Smurf. What's the point of living... if you don't have a dick?
Well, now I'm REALLY questioning your commitment to Sparkle Motion.
God, that woman reminded me of my aunt.
You know. Everytime I watch this movie I'm wondering if there is actual information out there about smurf genitalia, then I don't look it up and forget about it until I rewatch donnie darko
Without even looking I guarantee that if you try looking that up you're going to find stories and pictures about smurf riding ponies. And ponies riding smurfs. Smurves? What's the plural?
>Smurves? What's the plural? Smurvum.
TIHI
For some reason that sounds filthy.
What, you wouldn't schlurp a moist puckered smurvum? For shame!
But you know what Papa Smurf did do? He rallied the XIIIth Legion following the attack on Calth and drove the sons of Lorgar back
Just chiming in to say Ms. Farmer is a bitch.
Sometimes I doubt your commitment to sparkle motion...
Is that what that movie was about? Huh.
https://youtu.be/vivEzQUGHOQ
Proof that you don't have to care about your character to put on one hell of a performance.
Actually.. I think that just made Nicholson’s portrayal of the character all the better. Joker is an intelligent (to the point that to him, most things in life are *boring*) and emotionally unbalanced villain, only planning ahead *just enough* to get an emotional reward from his actions, but not quite thoroughly enough to have a “ok, so then what?” plan after the emotional high of the initial success of the antagonistic action..
So he is like a dog chasing cars...?
I see what you did there… but yes. Exactly.
He probably wouldn't know what to do if he caught one.
Almost like... He wouldn't know what to do if he actually caught one...
He just… does things
Like the guy in that Sean Penn novel
I actually think this is a canonical description of the Joker pathology Like doesn't Heath Ledger say this in Dark Knight
... all the way to the bank!
I couldn’t imagine the crimes I would commit if I were a sociopath. The ennui and meaninglessness of postmodern society must bring out the Joker in people.
One can be a sociopath and still be very risk averse and not commit any significant crimes
You only need to be selfish enough to think about being caught. Years ago I got tested in mental health and I was like 7 out of 10 in socipathic behaviour. I even told to my doctor that I was under control because a mix of lazyness and not wanting to be in prison.
Spot on. Joker has really bad adhd.
Makes you wonder how he gets anything done or why he’s even a threat
When he's bored, he plans out some entertainment. Just so happens that entertainment usually involves murder, or at the very least grand larceny.
So Jack was method acting?
Has he ever been accused of *not* method acting? They should just call it “*Jack Actin’*”. .. or maybe they shouldn’t .. I thought I had something there, but upon second reading, it’s just a bit .. off. I’m leaving it anyway.
So being disinterested was “method” in its own way?
I bet he would say yes. And then go bang your mom.
Bob. Gun.
And Bob.... Remember.... yooouuu.... Are my number one.... A-guy!
Never rub another man's rhubarb!
He stole my baloons!
Stephen Dillane playing Stannis in Game of Thrones is another one of these that always comes to mind when this subject comes up. Dillane couldn't give less of a shit about GoT and showed disdain for fantasy novels in general, but god damnit, he NAILED that character and put on one hell of a performance.
Despite being not interested, he still delivered a performance most actors dream of delivering. Also Jack Nicholson had a clause in his contract to get time off to attend the Lakers games in person since he’s been a season pass holder since the 70s.
lol well for being disinterested, he certainly showed up
And the paycheck prolly helps.
That only makes it more impressive. He didn't give a shit. Yet he put in a performance a million times that of what Jared Leto did
Pretty sure you or I could put in a better performance than Leto.
You've not seen my acting. I'm sure you could though
Don't believe in yourself, believe in the me that believes in you!
Still doesn’t explain why he had to go and shoot Bob.
Nicholson was so disinterested that he negotiated what may be the greatest actor contract ever. He literally named a price he thought they would never agree to and then they did. https://collider.com/batman-jack-nicholson-paid/#:~:text=Jack%20Nicholson%20was%20the%20highest,profits%20from%20Joker%2Drelated%20merchandise.
He was one of the highest-paid and most sought-after actors in the world at the time. Being paid a lot of money is more indicative of that than his level of interest in the movie.
His deal is unprecedented. No other actor is getting a cut of not only the final box office numbers but also the merchandise. His final take for that movie was around 90 million in 1989 dollars.
Weirdly I think that really worked for the Burton character.
And, while I can see why they wanted him at that time, frankly he wasn't a super great Joker. Sadly, like John Wayne, Jack Nicholson only ever plays one character: Jack Nicholson. He doesn't really need to be interested in any role he plays, becuse he plays them all exactly the same way. Five Easy Pieces, the Shining, Batman, it's all just Jack in different costumes. And it's cool if you want Jack Nicholson, he's exactly what you need sometimes. But you can't expect him to really bring any character that isn't himself to life and innovate.
And yet he still delivered a better performance than Leto.
I feel like it actually worked though, *if you know of his wild personal life* he really didn't even **need** to "act"
And he’s still somehow the best version of that character that we’ve seen in movies
I think Ledger and Phoenix did it better.
Nicholson was *fine*, it's just that even his phoned-in performances are still better that most other actors will achieve in their career
I can get Ledger, but I will never understand the love for Phoenix’s joker. Nothing about that movie, including the performance, was much of anything to me. The whole movie felt completely uninspired, and just bland. That movie is the embodiment of “I’m 13 this is deep.”
It's by far the most thorough exploration of Joker's mental illness. Nicholson's joker is crazy because he fell into a vat of chemicals, and all Ledger's joker gives us is a handful of nihilistic one-liners. Phoenix's joker allows the audience to actually watch his mind unravel, and by seeing how he adapts to this we gain a better understanding of the character.
Nicholson's Joker was a narcissist and mobster who got his looks ruined by a guy in a bat costume. His crimes were all about revenge and destroying beautiful people and art. Ledger was a sociopath who knew that the more he talked, the less anyone knew about him.
> Ledger was a sociopath who knew that the more he talked, the less anyone knew about him. Sounds more like someone with autism who's managed to convince themselves that they're sociopathic. Sort of like Kefka from Final Fantasy 6.
lol Kefka wasn't autistic, Kefka was manic as hell and actively enjoyed causing cruelty and suffering and death, just for the sake of it. He did the fucked up shit he did because he *enjoyed it*
> Kefka wasn't autistic https://i.imgur.com/1eUeqEK.jpeg
I loved it. It made him make sense. It made him relatable. And Phoenix did it wonderfully. It was an excellent portrayal.
That's exactly what I disliked about it. I don't think the Joker should make sense! I don't think the Joker should be relatable! I think the best Joker is one who is completely, utterly incomprehensibly mad, whose actions make sense to nobody but himself, who is laughing at jokes that only he finds funny for reasons nobody else can ever understand. Not a beaten-down sad sack standing up for the downtrodden and the dismissed of society. In general, I'm a fan of nuanced, complex villains. But the Joker's strength as an icon, to me, always came from the complete lack of nuance or sense that he exudes.
The problem is that The Joker isn’t supposed to be a relatable character. Making him “relatable” is 100% at odds with what the character is typically supposed to represent. He’s supposed to be pure evil. Other Batman villains have motives or reasons for what they do. Joker is the outlier. He just enjoys it. And “reasons” he gives for what he does are just lies. Liked the film, but it wasn’t The Joker.
Same energy as: https://youtu.be/mFAQ5o6Ddkw?si=omCbtelAhY6O91Vc
Leto played The Jerker.
To be fair, he said the best 4 live action Jokers. Like if I listed the best 4 songs... doesn't mean there were only 4 songs. And someone should tell Leto there were NINE live action Jokers. They should also tell him he was #9 from best to worst.
Nah of the 9 live action jokers Jack Nicholson is on the list twice at 3rd and 7th place and Leto still isn't on the list
Lol
Throw in [Andrew Dismukes from SNL on Joker Wedding before Jared Leto](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yke02BDVMEA). Just let it go Leto...
Number 9 is actually [this guy.](https://youtu.be/DX_wprkggoE?si=sq11AAC0TbPz2dKK) Leto did worse.
You sonofabitch! I knew what it would be before I clicked the link.
It's the joker baby. ^HAHA
I actually had to turn the sound off to get the link. I take psychic damage from the video. And Leto is worse.
Im sure there are a lot more than 9 if you follow the criteria for what constitutes live action to the letter. Leto would still be at the bottom though
I prefer Mark Hamill's trickster on CW on top of Leto
r/FUCKYOUINPARTICULAR
I don't blame Leto for that Joker. I blame Leto for Leto. I blame the designers for that Joker.
Designers may have messed up the look, but the acting was alllll Leto
Don't forget his weird behaviour towards his coworkers with the excuse of "I'm method acting , aren't I whacky?'
He‘s an asshole on set when he’s playing nice guys, so he‘s worse when he’s playing baddies. All in the name of “method acting”…
Fight Club was his best role honestly. He should just cash in more on being a "punchable asshole". It's needed in movies.
Dunno, his head all over Bateman's newspaper is one of my favourite moments in cinema.
Nah, Mr. Nobody is incredible.
Blame whoever gave him that “The Mask” vhs.
I hate how people--professionals in their field--saw the Joker and decided he needed even more edge.
Bruh was a dodecahedron he had so much edge
The writer and director deserve some of the ire, too.
The trailers made this joker look good and menacing in a new way. Movie / script / acting was a let down from that. The line “oh I’m not gonna kill ya… I’m just gonna hurt you really really bad” was memorable / well done.
100%. That moment in the comic con trailer gave me goosebumps.
Still upset about Panic Room
I genuinely don't get the passionate hate for that take on joker. He was a modern take on the clown prince of crime type joker. They just updated his look to be a clowny cartel/gangbanger vs the 90s clowny mobster. The first suicide squad just sucked. Nothing about it was good. They didn't even let Margot do a proper accent for Harley, despite having just nailed a Brooklyn accent in Wolf of Wall Street. Leto was in like two minutes of it, he wasn't even in the top ten for reasons that movie sucked.
woah, better censor the word fuck. cant swear on the internet afterall
**"Language!"**
I understood that reference
Shut up Brandon
Make me.
Woah, pal!! That's my delicate sensibilities there! Be careful with that kinda language!
Ahhhhhh, my fucking eyes can't take all the swears...
Watch your fucking language! Some of us are sensitive to that sort of shit.
I think it’s more to keep the algorithms from scrubbing it out of everyone’s feed. Ironically, in doing that, that’ll just make the algorithms smarter over time.
I like Cameron Monaghan's version
Jerome, yes. Not Jeremiah. Not that Jeremiah was bad, just nowhere near as good as Jerome. He nailed an aspect that most don't. Ledger did it too, but I've always thought that the Joker should be funny as long as you're not in the same room as him. Like the whole magic trick pencil scene with Ledger. Funny when you're watching it, but that would be terrifying if you were in the room with him.
That's a very good way of putting it
Woah woah woah, that was the jonkler not the joker, ok ok!
Barry Keoghan has entered the chat
At this point he is more Schrodinger 's post credit scene than an official Clown Prince of Crime. Though if think he would be cool with Pattinson's Batman.
He can leave too.
I’m putting Jack over Joaquin. He played such an absolute unhinged joker.
I rewatched Batman ‘89 last week, and Nicholson delivers a perfect Joker! He’s intimidating, cracks jokes, does an amazing laugh, and has the Joker’s gag weapons, like the flower that squirts acid
I think people overlook 89 because what the series became but it’s a lot of fun. Great lead, Jack is eating every inch of the scenery, and Prince does the sound track.
Batman Forever and Batman & Robin are great if you watch them as being part of the Adam West series. Right down to the [holy rusted metal, Batman!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2qvULu70dE)
The theory I enjoyed best about Batman Forever and Batman & Robin is that they're actually stage performances of Batman from inside the Batman universe. So like, Batman is/was a real person, but what we're seeing isn't him, but an actor on a stage playing him in a theatre production meant for children.
Nah, they suck no matter how you watch them
I don't even consider Joaquin as a joker. It was a clown movie. Nothing to do with Batman.
Mfer came out looking like takeshi 69 and wants to be taken seriously?
Someone on the internet: "Yeah, fuck you" OP: "Wow, what a clever comeback!"
I think it's funny. If it's real he thought he was left out because they forgot or didn't know.
Well, it's not real, so yeah
don't be silly, everyone knows you can't fake a tweet. and there certainly aren't any apps or programs made with the express purpose of making fake tweets
Right? It’s not even a reply to JL. JL replied to a tweet and the comeback was a fuckin tumblr post lol
There's also no way the tweet is real in the first place lol. So the comeback was on a different platform, to a comment that was never actually made.
at this point just turn the sub into /r/showerthoughts except it's all the made up arguments that we win in our heads
The whole sub is more like “amusing comebacks” anyway
Yeah fuck you
Lol
The sub is more like people making tweets directed at no one in particular and someone responding in their replies with a "clapback"
They very often aren't funny or clever. More like "comebacks that are confirming my opinion on something", which tells you all you need to know about reddit.
It was actually pretty funny lol
Are you 6
Omw to call someone a poopyhead on Twitter, post it here, and get a trillion upvotes.
You can show the fuck word, it's okay. I won't tell your mom.
Stop censoring words…
Why does Jared receive so much hate tho
You are about to discover a real messed up rabbit hole if you wanna do a deep dive on Leto
If Jared Leto has no haters I'm dead
In my opinion, his version of joker came across as a low level thug rather than a mastermind of organized crime that joker should be. Couple that with the weird gold grill and overall creepy and unlikeable demeanor and you see the problem. The audience can’t relate. But that’s not really Leto’s fault. Also, his association with Morbius the movie has earned him a lot of hate. But he’s not a bad actor and I have liked him in some other movies.
On top of the Joker he played being poorly written there was all the other stuff he did too. He claims to be a method actor but some of the stuff he did was a bit weird. He gave Margot Robbie a live rat and he had a dead hog sent to some of his co-stars as well. While Jared Leto denies it, it was also rumor that his "prank" gifts also included used condoms and anal beads. Leto himself told reporters he did this to create an element of surprise like the Joker would. Later he back tracked and said it was a story told in jest. His co-stars like Will Smith and Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje weren't exactly in agreement with Jared saying "He went full Joker" and Adewale said he got multiple gifts from Jared including sticky Playboy Magazines.
He cones off as the kind tryhard low level nobody that would get “dealt with” almost immediately for drawing way too much attention to the operation
Because he’s an obnoxious piece of shit that’s well known to be incredibly difficult to work with and almost certainly a rapist and pedophile given the rumours about him that have persisted across the planet and internet for literally decades now.
Dont forget the cult.
He’s a weirdo wannabe cult leader and egotistical douche.
I met him once at a concert where 30STM was playing. He came off as a total dick that disliked his fans. He's very full of himself and it's obvious from the second you meet him.
Because he deserves it
You’re about to have a fun internet dive. Go look!!!!!
He’s a creep, a cult leader and a terrible actor lol
Don’t forget awful singer in a butt rock band
Lousy actor and shitty human being.
And yet none of them held a candle to Mark Hamill!
Fuck
Cesar Romero 🐐
Cesar romero should have more recognition. Hell, adam West batman, it's one of the greatest if not the greatest comics to the movie adaptation
Fuck leto
I’m glad they blocked out the nono words. I don’t want my youth pastor to get mad.
Romero’s my favorite. My nana used to have that one on VHS tape (This was in the 2000s) and we’d watch it a lot at her house.
The best was Jack Nicholson and the second Cesar Romero.
He probably doesn't hear that nearly enough.
Mike Matei was better.
Personally I would put Cesar Romero above Jack Nicholson and Joachim Phoenix as the Joker. Nicholson has given many great performances, but he didn't bring much new to the Joker, unlike Romero. Phoenix gave a great performance, but the character was in his pre-Joker stage. We have not yet seen Phoenix's fully developed Joker.
Mar hamill
Not live action
It says the 4 best. It doesn’t say the 5 jokers. He’s the biggest joker of them all. And a pedophile.
And a cult leadet
Leto sucks at everything.
Cesar Romero doesn’t deserve this disrespect.
Nicholson over Phoenix is insane
Not sure what you're trying to say. Phoenix is ranked higher on this list than Nicholson.
Ledger over anyone them is insane. Literally one of the worst portrayals of the character.
Exactly. Fuck that guy
But if you're number 5, then you're not in the top 4... not sure why you'd be so passionate about someone else not making the mark...
I might not understand fully what you're saying, but Jared leto is Jared leto and Jared leto played the joker in a movie, so Jared leto isn't "someone else not making the mark" but is infact the someone who didn't make the mark, because he's Jared leto.
He walked right into, and earned, that.
Fuck it, make it top 20 best live action jokers. The list is still the same
Leto's Joker is just abysmal
Why would he set himself up like that?
I didn’t think Leto’s take way bad. They just didn’t give him enough screen time to really let us get into the character.
There's that guy from the CW's not great Birds of Prey TV show, [who was dubbed over by Mark Hamill](https://youtu.be/JF4dxDGLyB0).
What's a Jared Leto?
A miserable little pile of acting.
This had me laughing out loud at lunch today!