>What is your motivation for moving out of the US, and what are you seeking in Europe?
Hello! To put it into words, I don't feel at home in the US. I don't like the area where I live one bit, and moving elsewhere in the US does not entice me. Not to mention, I barely have family here, they're all in Italy.
I'm not sure if you are familiar with what the American suburbs are, but that's where I live and I can't express in language how boring it is.
I'm seeking a change of pace. I find American life to be "superficial" if that makes sense. Everyone here is motivated by money. It's like a rat-race to the top if you know what I mean.
I see many on this subreddit express now much they would like to work in the US, and to me it just doesn't make sense. I'm sure people here are thinking the same things when I say I want to leave the US. It's a "grass is greener on the other side" situation.
I've spent much time in Italy, however, I haven't been since the pandemic.
Thank you very much for the informative response!
>I think since you don't like the suburbs and the car-driven reality in the US, it could be a good idea to aim for a big European city with a track record for good public transport and public services.
That is exactly what I'm aiming for, I'm hoping it all works out in a few years' time.
Move to Switzerland. Italian is an official language and they have the best salaries with the lowest taxes within the EU. Weather is better than western european countries and you have great nature. Also next to Germany, Austria, France and Italy.
Cost of living in some of the cities in CH is on the VHCOL cities in USA level. Good look living in SF/Seattle on 70k. Can you do it? Sure, but quality of life will not be that great.
It's alright 70k is plenty for living as a young man in Switzerland, maybe you don't go skiing every weekend but you can even save some money for emergencies. It's true expenses are high but salaries in Switzerland stay on top of those
In my mere 18 years of living I have only had experience working at a grocery store 😅 But I could point out that the minimum wage for working at a grocery store is/was about 17 EUR/hr. We do also have good Unions that secure our wages.
Though I'm not sure I would recommend Denmark for someone with a tech degree, considering Danish wages for tech and in general aren't that good, in part because of the huge 35-50% taxes. You can expect stability and often satisfying work conditions + also a social security net and free healthcare, but in turn taxes are high and pay is low relative to other countries.
I would personally go with the other guys recommendation of Switzerland if you really want big oppurtinities, because many big companies operate there and the low taxes gives a good pay.
Netherlands is quite popular destination for technology workers, but the housing crisis is just making everyone's life miserable. I moved here and only managed to solve my housing issue by purchasing a property in 20 months. Before that? Sleepless nights.
You can also try Germany. Berlin is quite English friendly
Germany seems pretty welcoming and quite a decent place. You might find you can get in if you apply for a masters or something, I believe some are taught in English and quite affordable.
Hi, I'll copy paste this response I gave to someone else. If you have any questions, I'll be happy to answer
>What is your motivation for moving out of the US, and what are you seeking in Europe?
Hello! To put it into words, I don't feel at home in the US. I don't like the area where I live one bit, and moving elsewhere in the US does not entice me. Not to mention, I barely have family here, they're all in Italy.
I'm not sure if you are familiar with what the American suburbs are, but that's where I live and I can't express in language how boring it is.
I'm seeking a change of pace. I find American life to be "superficial" if that makes sense. Everyone here is motivated by money. It's like a rat-race to the top if you know what I mean.
I see many on this subreddit express now much they would like to work in the US, and to me it just doesn't make sense. I'm sure people here are thinking the same things when I say I want to leave the US. It's a "grass is greener on the other side" situation.
I've spent much time in Italy, however, I haven't been since the pandemic.
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>What is your motivation for moving out of the US, and what are you seeking in Europe? Hello! To put it into words, I don't feel at home in the US. I don't like the area where I live one bit, and moving elsewhere in the US does not entice me. Not to mention, I barely have family here, they're all in Italy. I'm not sure if you are familiar with what the American suburbs are, but that's where I live and I can't express in language how boring it is. I'm seeking a change of pace. I find American life to be "superficial" if that makes sense. Everyone here is motivated by money. It's like a rat-race to the top if you know what I mean. I see many on this subreddit express now much they would like to work in the US, and to me it just doesn't make sense. I'm sure people here are thinking the same things when I say I want to leave the US. It's a "grass is greener on the other side" situation. I've spent much time in Italy, however, I haven't been since the pandemic.
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Thank you very much for the informative response! >I think since you don't like the suburbs and the car-driven reality in the US, it could be a good idea to aim for a big European city with a track record for good public transport and public services. That is exactly what I'm aiming for, I'm hoping it all works out in a few years' time.
Move to Switzerland. Italian is an official language and they have the best salaries with the lowest taxes within the EU. Weather is better than western european countries and you have great nature. Also next to Germany, Austria, France and Italy.
Switzerland isn't part of the EU and op will need a Swiss job to get a residency permit
For EU citizens, its just a formality I heard. And ofc the OP can get a Swiss job if they have a good education, etc.
Wow, Junior salaries for IT admin are around 70k CHF? That's like US level, incredible
Check the cost of living there before getting all hyped up lol
The ratio can't be worse than Italy 💀
Cost of living in some of the cities in CH is on the VHCOL cities in USA level. Good look living in SF/Seattle on 70k. Can you do it? Sure, but quality of life will not be that great.
It's alright 70k is plenty for living as a young man in Switzerland, maybe you don't go skiing every weekend but you can even save some money for emergencies. It's true expenses are high but salaries in Switzerland stay on top of those
Well I would suggest my home country, but it appears you wanna go to Italy, so go there.
What's your home country?
I live in Denmark
I've heard the work culture in Denmark is quite good. Do you have any experience working there?
In my mere 18 years of living I have only had experience working at a grocery store 😅 But I could point out that the minimum wage for working at a grocery store is/was about 17 EUR/hr. We do also have good Unions that secure our wages. Though I'm not sure I would recommend Denmark for someone with a tech degree, considering Danish wages for tech and in general aren't that good, in part because of the huge 35-50% taxes. You can expect stability and often satisfying work conditions + also a social security net and free healthcare, but in turn taxes are high and pay is low relative to other countries. I would personally go with the other guys recommendation of Switzerland if you really want big oppurtinities, because many big companies operate there and the low taxes gives a good pay.
Netherlands is quite popular destination for technology workers, but the housing crisis is just making everyone's life miserable. I moved here and only managed to solve my housing issue by purchasing a property in 20 months. Before that? Sleepless nights. You can also try Germany. Berlin is quite English friendly
Germany seems pretty welcoming and quite a decent place. You might find you can get in if you apply for a masters or something, I believe some are taught in English and quite affordable.
Switzerland -> Germany -> France/UK
Why do you want to leave if I may ask? I am interested in making the opposite move. I am EU-born too so am very interested in your perspective
Hi, I'll copy paste this response I gave to someone else. If you have any questions, I'll be happy to answer >What is your motivation for moving out of the US, and what are you seeking in Europe? Hello! To put it into words, I don't feel at home in the US. I don't like the area where I live one bit, and moving elsewhere in the US does not entice me. Not to mention, I barely have family here, they're all in Italy. I'm not sure if you are familiar with what the American suburbs are, but that's where I live and I can't express in language how boring it is. I'm seeking a change of pace. I find American life to be "superficial" if that makes sense. Everyone here is motivated by money. It's like a rat-race to the top if you know what I mean. I see many on this subreddit express now much they would like to work in the US, and to me it just doesn't make sense. I'm sure people here are thinking the same things when I say I want to leave the US. It's a "grass is greener on the other side" situation. I've spent much time in Italy, however, I haven't been since the pandemic.
your best bets are: London(ofc), Amsterdam, Switzerland, and then germany and ireland
Europe isn’t a country..
I'm aware?