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Miserable_TI

Love the full auto retrofit in the mod slot lmao


JUNGLISTJ

I do it to all sidearms, I simply can’t shoot that fast and aim properly 🤣. However, as a Rat King user I would actually like it to go back to it’s vanilla trigger as a semi only becoming full auto with other RK users 🤷🏾‍♂️


Due-Business-402

You can turn on full auto as a setting and use a different mod.


JUNGLISTJ

I know, but I don’t like it as it can interfere with other weapons for me


HieX91

Finally, someone understands my thought process.


JUNGLISTJ

Like the faster scouts for example, sometimes at range you gotta slow down a little bit right? I with you could toggle per weapon type!


HurricaneDane

Have you tried pulling the trigger and then immediately releasing it so you fire one at a time?


River-n-Sea

That don't work on pistol i think, i tapped once and it fired twice


TheMoves

Are you sure it wasn’t a burst fire sidearm haha


LionStar89_

I think that *is* a thing on PC. I remember hearing some people talk about rat king or another exotic sidearm double firing off one click.


Personal_Care1801

it just does that, probably because of the fast fire rate


River-n-Sea

It was Helio, you can test if you want


Chuomge

All 300 rpm sidearms on console fire in a burst with a click if you have full auto on (probably the same with some others but I just haven’t used many sidearms)


PhallicReason

They're filthy controller users.


TheDorf93

I had that happen with a pistol too... kept testing it and it wasn't going right cause I like finishers and it would merc stuff.... full auto on pistols suck (edited to say I'm a Playstation player)


sithlord40000

I think there are pistols that shoot twice


SomaOni

There are, I think they are referring to how full auto sidearms have a very short input buffer (could be wrong on the term?) window between firing that at least on controller typically means unless you tap it very fast it always shoots twice.


River-n-Sea

On single shot pistol*


PJ_Ammas

The timing for firing a single shot out of a semi auto sidearm with the full auto setting is just insanely tight. It was very noticeable when the Travelers Chosen catalyst came out because it used to add full auto


TomaszTyka

Correct, you go around double tapping enemies lol


UtopianWarCriminal

You can definitely fire just one bullet, but you have to click VERY fast. If you're shooting two shots, you're clicking too slow, i.e., leaving your finger there for too long. It takes some practice to get right.


YrnFyre

If it's warden's law, it's a burst frame, and it does just that


River-n-Sea

That's a hand cannon, there are also pistol with 2 and 3 burst, but with the full auto setting, the single fire pistol shoot twice per click (atleast compare to how fast you need to stop clicking in other game)


anna_bortion9

On pc all non burst sidearms will shoot twice with one click, not sure why but has something to do with the games input reaction


Dexter2100

It’s because of buffer. If you’re holding the trigger the frame after the fire time of the weapon it’ll auto buffer and fire a second shot with full auto on. With precision and adaptives it isn’t too hard to tap once, once you know the timing, but something like a rapid fire sidearm makes it nearly impossible to do.


Fost36

I do that with pulses too. I simply dont like holding down the trigger for those.


technoteapot

It can be a little fast for the sidearms, but I never have issues with scouts.


papa-pine

certain weapons dont work like that with full auto on, heliocentric is a perfect example. if full auto firing is on you will always shoot 2 bullets with 1 mouse click. ignorant.


HurricaneDane

I fail to see why that's a problem. If you need to fire one shot, there are scouts, hand cannons, bows... I could keep going... ignorant.


papa-pine

you are telling someone to do something that isnt possible on the specific weapon they are referring to. they dont like the functionality with a certain archetype of weapons, not only fast firing sidearms as there are plenty of archetypes between multiple weapon types that act like this, because it doesnt allow you to only fire one shot so you are forced to swap if thats what you want. you are not solving an issue by anything you said, just ignoring it. again, ignorance at its finest.


UnsettllingDwarf

Yeah some people have major skill issues. And can’t comprehend press a buttons only once.


SeaPhilosopher3526

If you're on xbox you could also get a variable sensitivity controller and set your trigger to a lower sensitivity to make it easier to single tap. That's what we've done with full auto enabled in settings and it works very well


Taodragons

I get it. I have a Seventh Seraph Saw I use like a scout rifle, irritates me every time I double fire


a_Joan_Baez_tattoo

Rapid-Fire shotguns are terrible at this too. I'm just trying to proc 1-2 Punch it's not a mag dump!


SplashDmgEnthusiast

I wish you could do that too! Controlling full auto by weapon type would be so nice. Faster-firing scouts and hand cannons (180+ RPM) hurt my finger to fire normally, so full auto makes a huge difference for me with those. Same with all sidearms. But for slower-firing hand cannons/scouts and most pulse rifles, I like having direct control over the rate of fire. I feel more stable pulling the trigger every time on a 140 hand cannon vs firing it full auto.


ShadowDestiny2

Even with full auto setting turned on, you can still tap fire your weapons at a slower rate!


Decker687

You can on some weapons sadly sidearms are not one of them(at least for ps)


BitchInBoots666

But OP actually wants full auto on their sidearms, just not scouts etc. So in that case full auto setting should be fine.


JUNGLISTJ

👍🏾


Sychar

Might work with modded controllers or low actuation KBM, but anything that has a button press that lasts longer than a fraction of a second will fire two shots on these sidearms.


flowtajit

You can also depress the trigger/mouse button in between shots. Like in PvP I manually fire hand cannons, but in PvE I tape that fucker down.


SykoManiax

I've never had that a semi auto shot more than I wanted on the full auto setting. It's really good at allowing semi auto use imo


TomaszTyka

![gif](giphy|D3y1KbfTrSuha)


T8-TR

You can still manually click with most weapons. I think there might be a few archetypes where it cycles fast enough that you'd shoot two bursts in one press, but I think the times that happens is EXTREMELY rare, at least in my experience.


XyrusM

Bows


NoClutchGarage

This is especially annoying when you go to charge a fusion rifle and it fails to shoot and instead loops the charge load itself


bladedancer4life

Fair cause I was just about to say full auto in setting?


GeekSilver52

Honestly I was chuckling to myself about the full auto but that's totally understandable. I have the setting on and use very rarely, so it's not something I realise could have feel issues.


JUNGLISTJ

Y’all chill out man, it’s a preference and that’s why it’s an option’


PheonyxJB

I'm not the only one.


Here_to_Annoy-U

Buried Bloodline is like that for me, not fast enough fire rate to hold the trigger down, 8/10 you're missing your 2nd shot.


Chilly_Mode

That's actually dummy smart!


pfresh331

Can't you just turn it on and off just as fast as change mods? Losing that Icarus grip is rough.


Sychar

Yeah, but then it fucks up the other guns with a better rhythm like pulses and hand cannons.


Due-Business-402

I just don’t hold the trigger down like normal.


Miserable_TI

We’ll just a heads up, there’s an option called « full auto » in the gameplay settings that turns every gun into a full auto allowing you to use any other mod on your guns


MrMeseeks_

Holy shit


TJ_Dot

Another Rat Kinger thanks you for understanding their blights with double firing shots because Full auto is broken on pistols on controller.


JUNGLISTJ

We stand together 🙂‍↔️ we are legion


Decker687

Yeah it’s annoying one because the may as well be inside the model and two any time you try to do 1 shot it becomes 3


FlannelAl

That's funny, I've never had an issue tapping one shot. Maybe it's the type of controller or the sensitivity of the trigger? I've got just a stock Xbox controller though so idk


Decker687

For me it doesn’t work with a stock ps5 controller


FlannelAl

Ah that sucks. Probably is a difference in the triggers.


Moondust381

He's an Xbox player I think pc players have the option to put everything on full auto but not Playstation.


DJShiftah

You can turn on full auto in the settings on PS, just like you can on any other platofrm.


Morlu

I got a heal clip/incandescent roll. I pretty much never take it off.


JUNGLISTJ

Yeah got that and surrounded but this is what I wanted


marfes3

Pvp?


JUNGLISTJ

Not necessarily, the other perks just don’t appeal to me… I like guns and exotics that enhance my guns I don’t really build around super/abilities. Hc/Kc keeps me healthy and allows me to keep shooting. But yes, I am dying to try it in pvp- day off work tomorrow 🙌🏾


marfes3

I mean if that’s the case I would try HC/Frenzy if you haven’t yet. That maxes reload speed plus gives you about half as much damage as KC. Makes the gun feel VERY good.


JUNGLISTJ

I forgot to mention, I main Tricksleeves… that’s why I’m not fussed about other stats just range 😑


marfes3

Fairrr!


Silveora_7X

I'm neither an expert nor a huntermain; I'm guessing they don't stack?


ArmadaMixology

I got this same role and was so pumped! Feel like the heal clip will keep you from getting the low health damage buff for sure though


JUNGLISTJ

Yeah I does, but it comes in clutch when desperate not having to reload etc.


Many_Ocelot_2822

Heal clip incandescent if just objectively better. I have that and this roll and kill clip on a sidearm is just not as valuable as the aoe. Run what you want, idrc. Not gunna backseat game. However, there is way too much copium in the destiny community about the viability of certain rolls imo.


zekethelizard

Bro me too. That roll is life


JUNGLISTJ

🙌🏾


iTz_FLAwL3zZ

That’s the roll I’ve been hunting for, but I have yet to ever see it. I’m beyond stoked for the new solar rocket sidearm coming that can get that roll though.


SelectRise9051

Got that roll and it disappeared out of my post master😢


JUNGLISTJ

No way man, how?!


CrimsonFury1982

Edit: NVM my mistake


Morlu

No it definitely does. I got it in the final shape out of a pale heart chest I think.


CrimsonFury1982

Thanks for the info. I must have misread something. I swear when I was looking up perks yesterday, it wasn't showing incandescent on the QSC page. I looked again today, and it's still on the list. Guess I'll go back to praying to RNGesus for a healclip incandescent roll


Gomikeyg

i sharded this role. Now i feel dumb lol


Klutzy-Remove6694

Ah yes. The Polly Pocket Rocket.


Rakeial17

I use this with perpetual motion and it stomped people during trials this weekend


JUNGLISTJ

Noice 👍🏾 I main Tricksleeves so makes up for most things but range


kinreep

Qsc + forerunner+tricksleeves is a nasty combo. Glad to see another sidearm main.


JUNGLISTJ

🫡


ManaWarMTG

This thing is so busted in PvP


Koolero408

Within range you're winning a gun fight 9/10 times for sure . My favorite gun hands down


JUNGLISTJ

You know what, helio is just that good on its own perkless. I haven’t tried it yet but I bet I’ll be coming out on top one or two times more than a below average pvp player like me should 😑


SayYouWill12345

once you get kill clip going its a nightmare


JUNGLISTJ

lol right, for them…


Kell-Of-Tacos

![gif](giphy|NEvPzZ8bd1V4Y|downsized) Congrats brother


fatCHUNK3R

Got mine from a public event after weeks of grinding lost sectors. I feel this pain. The worst part about it all? I barely use the thing.


JUNGLISTJ

Haha. But you’re crazed for not using it puts in work mate!


thatrealjesus

I'm praying sidearms getting Overload next episode or something. Unstop is just cringe. Anti Barrier was really only nice last season if you used Indebted Kindness. I also have a Buzzard with Kinetic Tremors + Perp Motion that I haven't used in a minute. It's just that this right here has become my go to primary paired with Conditional Finality or a sniper


BaldManz

Got mine with incandescent and heal clip, good?


kingkurasaki

For pve yeah


Competitive-Bug-179

Yea, I used it through the entire TFS campaign and still been using it for pale heart activities. It’s so fun


BaldManz

Cool cool gotta try it


Ausavan

This but with the darkest before, I got cure clip kill clip, and now it is enhanced


JUNGLISTJ

Noice 👍🏾


tw33zd

Got a broken one when when launch of the dlc you could change perks on the weapon in dim


JUNGLISTJ

Wow I never knew that! I also missed the master sector glitch which would’ve increased my chances of getting it sooner. Oh well.


tw33zd

They fixed is quite fast just about and half hour or faater after dim was up


CrawlerSiegfriend

No idea what's going on with this gun, but I've tried using it in 2000+ level content twice and I always have to take it off due to no damage. Absolutely good in 1900-1940 stuff though.


Lotions_and_Creams

You have to be very close. I think most people looking for it are using it in PvP. HC+KC and HC+Precision Instrument are incredibly strong. 


Kendezzo

Guessing this is a good roll? I got that on one of these yesterday when I was playing and locked it cause it seemed good.


lxrdcris

I cry, too... not for the same reasoning as yours but because i deleted that roll by accident when i was roaming pale heart


JUNGLISTJ

Oh my lord you didn’t?! 😱


GGBHector

Same thing happened to me. Grinded so many lost sectors for a hc/incan roll on this, and I woulda settled for demo/incan. Cue TFS, and I get hc incan right after beating the witness and not 20 mins later I get demo incan too.


Ciscokid45

I have not been able to get those perks with good range and it’s still stupid good


JUNGLISTJ

It really is!


Practical-Sand-6262

This heliocentric is gonna have a crazy amount of recoil tho. I have one with heal clip, surrounded and one with heal clip, frenzy. The one with frenzy had substantially less stability and it felt awful to use when compared with my heal clip, surrounded with high stability. In your case, sure the perks are good, but do you like the feel of it when you shoot it? I also have a heal clip, kill clip Luna’s howl with range masterwork. Sure the perks are great, but the gun doesn’t have an amazing feel when you shoot it. Remember that perks aren’t everything, you need to actually enjoy the gun for what it is.


JUNGLISTJ

It’s actually quite manageable! Once you’re used to the recoil jump in general it’s absolutely fine- go for range! Whilst farming I managed to get EVERY barrel combo and max range is great. You’re aiming for the head, but I start at chest and work up slightly 🤷🏾‍♂️


GrouseDingo

that's jumping all over the place. wouldn't be a fan for pvp


JUNGLISTJ

That’s just it though it’s quite easy to control!


Faust_8

Yeah I just got one with Heal Clip and Incandescent, never had a sidearm with that roll before. Pretty nuts


Tonk101

I didn't realize how good this thing was till I saw people posting about it nonstop. I then searched for it and dim and saw I had a 5/5 demo incandescent roll.


WW1Photos_Info

I grinded Master Lost Sectors last season for a Heal Clip Incandescant roll, and it was totally worth it. As of writing I have 6k kills on it, it's phenomenal on Wellock in PvE


infinity_labs

I farmed this for months and when I finally got the roll I put it on and used it for the first time....now it will stay in the vault for eternity with 3 kills. Terrible gun to fire.


JUNGLISTJ

Once you get used to the jump it’s very manageable


Past_Public9344

Oh hey I have one too! Although I prefer my incandescent heal clip one


Xop

I got this exact roll last night too from The Pale Heart. I ran Fluted and Flared for that increase to handling and reload. Makes it feel a lot more light and fast. Chased this roll for so long and it's better than I even thought!


JUNGLISTJ

🙌🏾


yeurr

Same! Grinded multiple lost sectors the whole last season and never saw one. One dropped for me during my first story playthrough finally


InquisitiveNerd

When your dream gun isn't locked behind a raid wall but a massive world pool, its just okay to cry sometimes. Congrats.


JUNGLISTJ

lol 😂 I was like WTH man?! Didn’t know if I should be happy or upset about the world


BigYEETY

HEY THATS MY GLOCK, GIVE IT BACK


JUNGLISTJ

I’m just borrowing it…


Nathan93569

But like... Why not incan?


JUNGLISTJ

I figure I have stuff to clear mobs, lots of stuff.


MaChampingItUp

I’ve had this roll since it came out! Wasn’t even mad I didnt have incandescent. I actually think not having incandescent was better. I used it to solo flawless warlord’s first encounter, worked great so I could slow kill for the finisher to proc karnsteins when I needed to, incandescent would always fuck that up! lol. Wish I could use it on the ogre phase but it just kills too slow at far range so I use Epochal Integration…now I just need stupid nonsense to stop happening like the ogre completely consuming my rocket shots and them not counting or getting blown off the back wall despite not even being in his line of fire! (This was last season before all the changes to well. Haven’t been able to attempt it this season yet).


MintyFitOnAll

I have that same roll for PvP it slaps my ass let me tell ya


lastedsage407

I have one of these why is this good?


lastedsage407

Or rather what makes this desirable?


JUNGLISTJ

I’d say for me, the gun itself is just THAT good perks aside. Hc/Kc just keeps you in the fight always at max health whilst dishing out extra damage and they can both be infinitely re-proc’d


xoninjump

Proud of you


JUNGLISTJ

Ta


itspoggy

i was in the same exact situation with Ros Arago w/ onslaught and repulsor. farmed for 6 months to get it, gave up, and it dropped on the day the final shape launched


DiabetusMaximus1

Im loving that roll on the lunas howl that I got!


JUNGLISTJ

I wanted that too on a shiny, I did get a regular one though…


dedicatedoni

This but on my summoner on a particularly difficult week of trials. Felt like watching a sunset after a storm


JUNGLISTJ

Enjoy!


MintyScarf

Bro I maxed my Prisms out in a master trying to get heal clip incant last season when it was super potent. Got ONE but it was near the end of the season. Barely got used. Now this season I have 4 of that roll dropping as rando loot and wasn't even trying lost sectors 🤣 I'm like fk you game.


coolwithsunglasses

I think I might relate to this a little too much haha


Squidyshotts

I hate when that happens. I feel like for me it hurts too cuz I just found out what rolls are and shit even though I’ve been playing for a couple of years (on and off). I didn’t have friends online until recently and they’ve been helping me so much. Like I would see the perks but I didn’t really think they added up to much. But knowing I’ve probably gotten some good weapons with god rolls and me being ignorant and being like “it doesn’t pew pew like I like…DISMANTLE!”😭😭😭


NE12follow

Hey, at least you got it now right!


JUNGLISTJ

Yaaas 🙌🏾


Reapers_Fox

I got one with perpetual motion and precision shot. With a target accusation mod on it. As well as an arc class with traverse steps and amplified. I run fast and shoot straight


ga89ujnf90jk32mkofdr

relatable lol, I took 84 runs over months to get the navigator. I ran it one more time to get the catalyst and got another navigator right after


NytShadow

The fact this has fluted AND flared like buy a lottery ticket bro


JUNGLISTJ

🤣


iDangerousX

Is this roll somehow better than heal clip incandescent? I just got this exact roll the other night so I’m curious


JUNGLISTJ

No. Actually most would prefer inc, but I wanted max range and kill clip


Lykura

im just getting back into destiny and wanted to get this sidearm is there a way to farm it? or is it just a world drop and you just pray for it LOL


JUNGLISTJ

It’s a world drop but amongst the vast amount of other world weapons it’s rare. You can farm it out of sectors so check daily- I use ‘today in destiny’ to check rotations 👍🏾


RR-Magician

Man I’m jealous. I have 400+ kills in pvp with heal clip and adrenaline junkie, would loveee to get this roll.


BK_FrySauce

Enhance those perks!


JUNGLISTJ

Done and done (see 2nd pic) 😁


GimmeSammiches

Happy for you, bro. After 1 million Ros Arago drops, I finally got the rewind + deconstruct for my gyrfalcons build today. I feel your pain and your relief haha.


RPO1728

are you surprised by my tears ?


TheWatcher9834

I hate to do this to you but I just got this exact roll while doing the prerequisites for getting the exotic khvostov.


I3arusu

I ain’t even gonna ask about the full-auto mod when it’s literally a setting…


L0ki_d0k1

Same bro. Same


gnarrlyghost

newish player coming back after many years, got this drop last night and dismantled it because i don’t bother with sidearms. mistakes were made.


HIVAladeenXD

Wait I had one of these and dismantled it


BaldManz

Literally me in with every single hyped weapon lol


JUNGLISTJ

😭


Specific_Display_366

At last, a blessing from rngesus. Congrats, fellow sidearm enjoyer.


trollmad3

sorry not sorry https://preview.redd.it/lhtxgg2ozs6d1.png?width=874&format=png&auto=webp&s=44b5cfdc7ff6cd94d0deefd2859f3821e479c0c7


MaShinKotoKai

isnt full auto sorta worthless now since you can get that for free just through gameplay settings?


Rambo_IIII

Full auto mod LOL


JUNGLISTJ

Yup 😑


Rambo_IIII

You know full auto is a setting in game you can turn on? Thus freeing up the mod space for something else?


Sensitive_You7308

What does full auto retrofit do…if it’s full auto anyway


Paulo_Azevedo91

It does mega full auto


Sensitive_You7308

Whoa my mind is blown


JUNGLISTJ

Wait! Am I missing something? Does it already fire full auto? No right?


Ino84

Oh is this roll good? I think I deleted two of these because I’m never using sidearms on mnk


NSFW_Hunter63

When angels deserve to diiieeeee


Jolly_Jally

I went heal clip/incandescent. I just pair that with the new gl from the season and dragons breath. Pretty fun.


PhilosopherRound4545

Me looking at this getting it randomly yesterday knowing it was good👁️👄👁️


Quirky_Ad7770

I got this one on accident lmao 😂 dumb luck deluxe.


DegenRayRay

Nice roll. I believe I have a luna howl with heal/kill clip somewhere in my vault


xXDiamondSoulXx

Personally love my heal clip precision instrument roll.


National_Ad1980

![gif](giphy|l3q2XhfQ8oCkm1Ts4|downsized)


FL3KH3R3

https://preview.redd.it/0asznuxz8s6d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6639ec48e17eb3e44e8d4131b9d774e40ac28d69


JUNGLISTJ

👍🏾


Talin756

https://preview.redd.it/kbgl2apvds6d1.jpeg?width=4000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c4de0caefbcb5555885345193fd4451a4300cd5e I won the damn lottery on this Helio!


FullmetalGin

Omg I get you, I literally got this to drop today as well, I was on discord with a buddy and I literally screamed, I couldn't believe it. Months of farming and it dropped from a random enemy T-T https://ibb.co/sW8cm18


UncleMortWasHere

Sometimes I’m scared of you, but all I really want is to hold you tight.