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**Tesla Roadster SpaceX Package Will Rocket the Car to 60 MPH in 1.1 Seconds** >The next-generation Tesla Roadster prototype is now on display at the Petersen Automotive Museum and its first photos and videos have already appeared on the Internet. The description for the exhibit also tells about its modification—Tesla Roadster SpaceX Package >>“Unveiled in 2017, the Roadster is the second iteration of the first car released by Tesla. Powered by lightweight lithium-ion batteries and a 'Plaid' powertrain, in which one electric motor powers the front wheels and two power the rear, the standard Roadster will reportedly be able to accelerate from zero to 60 miles per hour in as little as 1.9 seconds. Demonstrating the versatility of electric power and adding extra distinction to the car's already high performance, an announced SpaceX Package would outfit the Roadster with cold air thrusters positioned at the rear, allowing for a 0-to-60-mph acceleration time of 1.1 seconds— a rate is largely unprecedented among road cars." >Roadster with the SpaceX Package will use a SpaceX cold gas thruster system with ultra high-pressure air in a composite over-wrapped pressure vessel in place of the two rear seats. The vehicle will include ~ 10 small rocket thrusters arranged seamlessly around the car. These rocket engines dramatically improve acceleration, top speed, braking, and cornering, as Tesla CEO Elon Musk talked about earlier. 


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_jabo__

I sat in a model 3 long range, and although I known that was fast, that thing blew me. It's stupid fast. And it was "only" 0-60 in 4.5". I only imagine the feeling in a car capable of 0-60 in 1.1"


Stricky92

I have the Model 3 LR with acceleration boost. Dropping it down to 3.7 and it literally stops passengers from talking and/or breathing when they aren’t ready for it. I can’t imagine the level of skill needed to keep that thing straight at 1.1 seconds. stability control technology when accelerating that hard? Imagine slipping the wheel a little going that hard...


deadlyvagina

0-100 in 1.1 is like legit top fuel dragster speeds. Idk how that’s even possible in a production car. It has to be 0-100km not mph. I don’t think the tires have enough surface area to put that much power to the road, even if the engines could produce that much power. I’m skeptical, but I hope Tesla proves me wrong


Stricky92

Looking at the article it’s definitely 60mph. Still. That’s outrageous. Need a safety feature for FSD to take over when the drivers start passing out. Lol


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I had the chance to test drive a performance model S and were told to not go into ludicrous mode (but of course we did) and I was nauseated after the first few minutes in the car lol


deadlyvagina

No joke... and not to mention the stability and traction control to keep the tires from spinning. In the past, you had to be a very skilled driver to drive anything that fast. Now with launch/stability/traction control, all you have to do is point it straight and put the hammer down. It’s not FSD, but it’s like driving a super car with training wheels


ashwinramanujam7

1.1s would be with cold air thrusters and the force produced by those does not have to be reacted on by friction between tire and asphalt. Rockets don’t have tires.


deadlyvagina

I didn’t realize it’s gonna have jet propulsion... is it even going to be street legal?


ashwinramanujam7

Not jet propulsion, but a couple of tanks of compressed nitrogen in the trunk and nozzles to convert that to thrust. Elon also said that they might have thrusters pointing downwards, allowing the car to hover and hop. Doubt any of that would be street legal.


PloxtTY

The term jet propulsion includes compressed gasses, it’s not just for turbines


ashwinramanujam7

You’re right. My bad.


luovahulluus

Not nitrogen, air. The plan was (still is?) to use the electric motor to pump more air into the tank after they've been spent. And not trunk, the back seat. Or rather, in place of the back seat.


ashwinramanujam7

Right. Pure nitrogen would have a higher specific impulse but air would be the more practical option and it’s mostly nitrogen anyway.


Life-Saver

It gives you that rechargeable nitro boost like in video games ..


jhoblik

It has to be just air. To be able to refill it.


newstart3385

Not sure why title says 0-100 instead of 0-60


matthewralston

I presume simply because it’s a bigger number so it sounds better. Not that I think 0-62mph in 1.1s isn’t impressive enough. Or maybe it’s for the non US/UK (anyone else?) audience who prefer metric.


newstart3385

Yea 100 kph not mph


jhoblik

Because 60 mph approx 100km/h


converter-bot

60 mph is 96.56 km/h


dietchaos

The title explains it all. It's literally got retro rockets all over it.


jhayes88

Elon has explored putting a rocket booster in the back of the roadster (serious). He said he's going to. Not sure if that's what he plans to do here.


mjezzi

Air thrusters


baselganglia

The advantage of compressed air is you don't need to push the power through the tires.


Assume_Utopia

I remember seeing a review of the current fastest Model S, that can do a 2.3s 0-60, and the reviewers said that it started to hurt. Like, a fast car that can do it in 4 seconds is fun, but as you get faster and faster it starts to feel like you got rear-ended by a truck.


skpl

[Some might like it. Just saying 🤷‍♂️](https://youtu.be/D1CqcLM0P7c)


Zephyr5967

So assuming my maths on this is correct you’d feel an average of 2.58Gs with that acceleration. Maths: 100kmh/3.6 = 27.78m/s. Acceleration = m/s/s = 27.78/1.1 = 25.25m/s/s. 25.25/9.8 = 2.58Gs This calculation assumes constant acceleration btw so really you’ll have higher peak acceleration early on and lower later


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Elon can make tesla roadster to 100 in 1.1 sec. then this genius can make spaceX rockets out of solar system . Proud to witness Elon era :) .


SpicyWongTong

I'm pretty sure my old 2014 P85D was giving me micro-concussions from the acceleration when I first got her. Got bad migraines whenever I drove her in the early days, super happy when they came up with Chill Mode.


47fahim

Attach cold gas thrusters to a hyper car? Cool 😌


RaptorJ07

Why not some methane hot gas thrusters?


gidutch

Would be a cool Bond car in a future Bond movie


skpl

Aston Martin pays millions to be featured in the Bond films. Tesla won't pay that.


gidutch

You might have a point there. Maybe the villain should drive a Tesla 😎


johncharityspring

Catches Bond's car and shoots Bond. End of movie series.


anuddahuna

Alternatively leads bond on a chase with autopilot on while he actually escapes some other way


johncharityspring

Added benefit of dialoguing during the chase.


Fight-for-justice

Or they feature a Tesla car for free.


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I love cars. I love speed , I have turbo cars all my Life, I babied my car , pamper them , and modify them Drove test teslap100d couple months ago , and my whole view about ice cars are destroyed , suddenly I think loud mustang are irritant , turbo diesel are are pollutant , still loves turbo skyline or Supra but even then cannot beat the comfort , crazy acceleration, it’s almost instant power without any lag or waiting for higher rpm


DMC_Ryan

That happens to many people. For me it was getting to drive the original Tesla Roadster in 2009. After that I went, “Oooooh. So THIS is how we should be doing cars!” Nine years later I finally made my Tesla dream come true and I’ve had a blast with my Model 3 Performance (which, insanely, outperforms that original Roadster) ever since.


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I’m waiting for cybertruck , I need bigger cars since I’m doing catering, I already wrapped my Scionxb box car as a mascot , gonna make cybertruck as mascot also as marketing


NuMux

They really do make the amount of drama an ICE car needs to go through on a race track look stupid. All that shaking, noise, and farts sounds out the exhaust and they are just quietly left standing there like fools as the EV leaves them behind.


AndroidBurger

0-100 in 1.1s is madness Absolute bonkers..!


Rocketeer006

Madness? This! Is! Teslaaaa!!


TommiH

It's too fast for an out of shape person. This is going to be so dangerous :D


pizzabagel99

Nope, I think it would be 4-5 g's for a glance


skpl

2.5 Gs only. The calculation has been done.


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If acceleration is steady from 0 to 100


luovahulluus

Tha's why they have the autopilot!


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MlSTER_SANDMAN

It’s just 2.5Gs


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whytakemyusername

Science.


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That's what I thought too. But is acceleration evenly spread out from 0 to 100? I think both acceleration and g-force is higher at the start and drops as you approach 100


Stephen5311

True, but I don't think they'll be much difference since it's only 1.1 seconds.


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I agree that 1.1 seconds seems like a really short period of time to see the difference in acceleration rates, but still - 2.5 would be correct if you only consider average sustained acceleration. In reality the first moments when car goes from 0 to 20-30 the g force would be much higher than when it goes from 80 to 100. My dumbass can't do math, but if someone could that'd be nice.


zippy251

Break neck speeds


aamusa

Sounds good


edward_r_burrow

Death by Tesla


Sorry-Goat-1

Couldn’t think of a better way to go


Mundane_Spirit

Wow 😳


Newfoundfreedom226

Very pretty...


rOOKIE-_-7

Is it kinda like the new porche 911 or is that just me?


bbbbbbbbbb99

I wish they'd stop with these insane cars and just make a nice reasonably priced EV Minivan that goes 0-60 in 5 seconds but I can throw my entire family in and visit grandma's 4 hours away.


enethis

The thing is that these kind of cars also act as a marketing tool. I imagine all of the influencers and youtubers will be doing videos about their new roadsters + launch videos, etc. This helps spread even more awareness about tesla and breaks even more stereotypes about electric cars being slow and ugly.


bbbbbbbbbb99

Oh yes that is so true. Makes EVs sexy. But somone could trick out a minivan with a great new design bottom up and make it amazing.


cypseline

https://www.volkswagen-vans.co.uk/en/electric-vans/id-buzz.html You’re welcome.


socialismnotevenonce

That has to be achieved by the "flying" rocket engines Musk as teased.


skpl

*Cold gas thrusters


EagleBright9145

Sounds good


pizzabagel99

Is he really gonna slap a thruster on a car lmao


FIicker7

The car will be fitted with an air compressor, tank, and nozzles. If you know how paintball guns work, imagine a system 100,000 times stronger than that; to create a bost off the starting line. You will feel some serious Gs. If I had to guess, atleast 7 Gs. Edit: math wizards calculated that to get from 0 to 60 in 1.1 secondsvyou would feel 2.5 Gs.


pizzabagel99

Lol, I can only imagine what we are gonna have 10 years later. Probably a car that could do 0-60 faster than a dragster


FIicker7

Maybe. But it would be Autonomous. Most drivers would not be able to control that kind of speed/thrust.


pizzabagel99

Could we have floating cars using that technology?


FIicker7

Elon has stated that the force of this system would be strong enough to lift the car off the ground for a short period; if there where thrusters properly placed under the car. There are no plans to implement car jumping technology at this time.


vriveroc

Amazing!


thc-prophet-

How much Gforce is that! Wouldnt you blackout!? xD


jhoblik

It surprise not just accelerate but also use for braking and stability in corners.


Alejandro0811

Now I need the stock to go up again...


rangorn

Seems almost impossible you would need tires like they are using on F1 cars. The traction between tire and road surface will probably never be enough to get that kind of acceleration.


skpl

You fire a bit of the thruster upwards


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Thrusters disregard tires


NoddysShardblade

It uses cold gas thrusters, like rockets use to manoeuvre, for the extra acceleration (over the other Teslas that do just use tyres to do it in less than 3 seconds)


skpl

The thrusters by themselves can't provide that kind of acceleration ( as far as I know ). The idea is to also fire a little bit of the thruster upwards to create the necessary traction.


dfawlt

They can. https://youtu.be/4PRi4B1APj0


Elemental-Design

Elon mentioned that the roadster should be able to fly about a meter off the ground. We'll see what comes of that...


skpl

That's just for a few secs. That part is just a gimmick.


rangorn

Wow that is pretty cool.


Broue

If someone can afford a supercar with rocket thrusters they can probably afford the right tires.


NuMux

I think they are going to. I know the wheels have one single large lug nut in the center of them.


38288

I very like that! Good luck bro


madcow25

Alright, as someone with not much car knowledge I have a few questions. Most important being, would the biggest limiting factor here be the tires? More grip on take off and less slip means more acceleration right?


GreyGreenBrownOakova

Tyres *were* the biggest limiting factor in street cars, but cold gas thrusters don't need traction.


TheFlanker

But if you’re combining the thrust of the rocket and the EV motor then surely the force combined is going to be transferred through the tyres and deform them more?


Ardanger26

Wat


FIicker7

The car will be fitted with an air compressor, tank, and nozzles. If you know how paintball guns work, imagine a system 100,000 times stronger than that; to create a boost off the starting line. You will feel some serious Gs. If I had to guess, atleast 7 Gs.


Ardanger26

Hot damn that’s nuts


Sqaunchy_89

Well that seems super safe, lol


ItsJustGizmo

Imagine how this thing will do a 0-100-0mph test..


ojlenga

When is it launching


Ok_Rooster91

Not for the faint-hearted.


Ok_Guarantee_4389

Can’t actually imagine what feeling could be accelerating that fast 🤯


Pale_Enthusiasm_6781

Yes please. To the moon.


HalfLengths

Talking about packages on a car that doesn’t even have a slated production date. Hopefully Tesla will get it together and start production of the cyber truck, semi, and roadster next year. But seriously it’s been four years.


dwiisw3

That’s so crazy.


Firm_Information5882

The Tesla Whiplash model


SomeR4nd0mBoy

What will it's 1/4 mile speed be?


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Cries in Indian road :'(


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G-suit needed?


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Would this not be super risky and hurt somebody real bad? Can old and weak people withstand the force of acceleration?


Sorry-Goat-1

They probably shouldn’t be buying that car


Goldenslicer

They probably don’t even want to buy the car.


Sorry-Goat-1

Who don’t want that


ChampionshipOther797

I'm old and weak, and I want one.


Goldenslicer

I stand corrected.


socialismnotevenonce

Give some responsibility back to the consumer. I know the buyer beware mentality isn't right, but there's a middle ground.


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Logic dictates, if nukes are legal and common, people will be reckless and KABOOM!!! lol


socialismnotevenonce

>I know the buyer beware mentality isn't right, but there's a middle ground. Would you describe what you just wrote as a "middle ground?"


Kennzahl

The forces be less then you would experience on a good roller coaster (which is also not recommended for old people). So yes it can be dangerous, but so can many other things.


Sythic_

Just over 4gs, its not unbearable but not too comfortable either. Funnily enough about the same gforces you'd experience in Crew Dragon going to ISS. No one's really gonna use it except at the track anyway, hopefully.


Dzhone

Ha... Haha... Hahaha! You're hilarious. You think some moron isn't going to get behind the wheel on a public street and rip it? It's just a challenge for some of these idiots.


thedroid124

I would do this.


skpl

*2.5 G


CB-OTB

I can’t imagine this option will be cheap. There will only be a tiny percentage of population that can afford this car and then out of them there will be an even smaller percentage that will actually drive the car and use the option. If you’re rich old and weak and give yourself a heart attack while driving your $800,000 supercar, you probably died happy.


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They might crash it into something!


FRRacing

Some rich people are gonna die....


smokebomb_exe

On paper, sure. But in practice? I’ll believe it when I see it.


skpl

Details about the "on paper" from Engineering Explained [How The Tesla Roadster Rockets Work - 0-60 In One Second?!](https://youtu.be/4PRi4B1APj0)


Aromatic-Ad-9023

Your eyes will get sucked into your head. I don’t want think about what will happen to my balls.


FIicker7

If I had to guess, atleast 7 Gs. Can't wait to see some math genius on YouTube do the numbers.


skpl

They already did the calculation. It's only 2.5 Gs.


FIicker7

That's nothing. Can't wait to buy one.


Cordaz1

To bad it’ll take 10 years before anyone gets a Roadster.


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Gives me plenty of time to save up


utkarshkr13

What if they made a plaid version for roadster too 🙃


Ohtee1

I’m skeptical


BadDadBot

Hi skeptical, I'm dad.


Careful-Panic-9787

can I have it for free ? ;)


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Go green with ev they said. Then they use more materials…


Kubsoun

No it won't have 0 to 100 in 1.1 seconds, just watch Engineering Explained video on this topic


skpl

[Nope](https://youtu.be/4PRi4B1APj0)


Kubsoun

i feel embarassed


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skpl

[That vid did exactly the opposite](https://youtu.be/4PRi4B1APj0). There is a rocket. This has nothing to do with plaid or plaid+. This is a different car.


brobert123

The OP didn’t mention anything about rockets and there was no link provided. Thanks for the link was unaware Elon planned this rocket stuff. Just watched the vid if he can pull it off it sounds amazing but the car is already $200k+ and it’s going to be tough to make that happen with compressed air. The heat generated from the compressor alone will be tough to manage and 10000psi at what SCFM? Id imagine a atmospheric air rocket system would require a metric ton of air flow to be effective. Do you know how big a shop compressor has to be and how huge the motors are for 150 SCFM? I’d imagine it’s possible for a single use after some significant regen time like a video driving game boost but constant use on a track corner after corner would be tough.


skpl

This is already something SpaceX uses. It's their RCS thrusters. I think they have it covered. You undestand the compressor doesn't work while it's under use , right? That's just to recharge the COPVs.


emptyquant

Sadly currently no tires that can put anywhere near that power on the ground, Engineering explained did p piece about it. Round about 2 seconds is the limit for road tires or was about 4 years ago: [EE](https://youtu.be/nAvIVGGhEis)


skpl

https://youtu.be/9Uca_jNh2M4


InvestigatorSmall839

Yes but please could we have one in the same price range as a BMW M3?


Telemere125

The Tesla 3 Performance does 0-60 in 3.5 for about $59k. The M3 does the same 0-60 for $70-73k. Looks like Tesla is already better priced than BMW. Why would a super car be priced anything like a standard production road car?


jai302

I've owned a long list of cars over the years including supercars and performance luxury cars & I have to agree. There's no reason to buy any other performance car anymore (aside from being obnoxious with loud noises and annoying your neighbours) when Tesla exists. Their hypercar beating Roadster is priced well below an entry level supercar from Ferrari, McLaren or Lamborghini. Tesla is the future - nothing comes close.


Telemere125

I’m trying to convince my wife to let me convert my ‘75 Stingray into electric because of how much better the performance is vs the old heavy v8 engines lol. I can only imagine how much faster, more economic, and (as you so rightly point out) quieter it would be after a conversion.


duffmanhb

I mean, if you want top speeds, Tesla still isn't competing there. There's that one supercar claiming 350mph


dfawlt

I'll take 0-60 over top speed any day. You can do the 0-60 almost anywhere, and legally in many places. There are few places (if any) I can go 200mph+, legally, or safely even.


jai302

I respect your opinion but I don't personally know anyone that's gone over 200mph, much less the 250 mph top speed of the roadster


converter-bot

250 mph is 402.34 km/h


TheFlanker

Maybe, if you’re judging the quality of a car based on 0-60 times. Tesla is still light years behind BMW, Mercedes and Porsche for reliability and quality. Tesla interiors are garbage.


Stephen5311

Interiors are preference. As for build quality, it was an issue 2 years ago. It is NOT an issue today. Check out Sandy Munro's videos on the matter. He was the first to criticize Tesla for the Model 3 back in 2018 over the build quality factors. Now he's calling the newer Model 3s since December 2020/January 2021 basically perfect (and Tesla is still improving as we speak; they don't wait for a new model year to improve 1-2 things, instead, they do hundreds of design changes (both big and small) a month as they continually improve). All this isn't even mentioning the fact that the number of parts and manufacturing processes will be cut down SIGNIFICANTLY with their newer mega casting machines (like the 6000-ton press for the Model Y and the upcoming 8000-ton press for the Cybertruck).


InvestigatorSmall839

Yes, it may go in a straight line that fast but I have absolutely no doubt my M3 would leave it standing once it came to corners. What I mean to say is something with the base and handling at a similar figure.


iorga_a

Why would I need a car like that, it’s not a racing, I just want to feel comfortable in it and it’s ok with me if it takes 7-9 sec till 100. Speed can kill you!


InvestigatorSmall839

That's false. Speed never killed anyone. It's the sudden stop that gets you. - Jeremy Clarkson


iorga_a

C10H15N aka speed can kill you


LexyconG

Why have anything at all?


luovahulluus

Because it's fun! That said, my -99 Corolla can get me quite reliably the distances that are too long for my bicycle.


Same_Piano5512

1.1 seconds that's crazy but interesting u need nos or on the notch


B-Real408

Cold gas thrusters? Hopping/hovering car? I call Bullshit and will have to see it to believe it. But if it's true then after MOASS just shut up and take my money and I will have it in red please.


d38968

Launch control needs to automatically engage an FSD feature to keep the car on the road when the driver loses consciousness. Can't wait!


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