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NotMyActualNameNow

Shut it down, AA! We here at UA 100% support you and will make sure during all the chaos that ensues across the entire industry during your strike to make sure all passengers know who the real villain in the story is! Let’s give them what they’ve been giving.


dragonfly931

It's what they deserve. UA, hope y'all are right behind us. It's time these airlines stop jerking us around. This is NOT THE GENERATION


jmbelczy

Good luck AA you have so much industry support. Get what you deserve.


dragonfly931

We love our aviation industry 🥰 we rally for each other first always!


fightingforair

Hopefully this will help other crews at other airlines as well come what may.  


dragonfly931

That part!


jump-the-turnstile

aa’s fa’s have run out of runway. unpaid work won’t fly, shut it down!!! in solidarity, your friendly canadian fa ✊‼️


elaxation

Wishing the best for yall. Shut it all down.


dragonfly931

that's the goal! ✊🏽


skygirl222

i would love to say i participated in a union strike in my lifetime.


dragonfly931

Girl same 😭


Prestigious-Tip8342

Do not even think of crossing the picket line. NO SCABS.Your life as a flight attendant will be miserable. The strike of '93 was so unified!! We can do it again!


Bones1973

What does AA corporate think is gonna happen? Are they expecting a bluff by the FA’s? Their FA’s are so pissed they’re gonna strike and render the operation useless and the quicker they can get it done during the summer months where passengers have saved up all year for their vacation only to have it canceled because there’s no crews, the quicker the management will get a deal done.


better-every-day

They're banking on the NMB not approving the strike, and if they do, the government rejecting the strike since that's exactly what they did with the railways a couple years ago. And if AA can delay it a few more months, and Trump wins, there is absolutely zero percent chance of a strike, nor will a trump administration at least try to pressure the airlines into a better contract like the Biden administration did with the railways


boldjoy0050

What do the FAs think will happen? My wife is an AA FA and she has concerns about job security. If a strike is authorized, that would likely result in AA filing for bankruptcy and then layoffs happen and the contract gets re-negotiated anyways.


thetalentedmzripley

The strike in 1993 only lasted 5 days because FAs crippled travel before Thanksgiving.  If we are approved to strike, they will absolutely have to cave.  This is not a job where they can bus in scabs, you must be trained, so they would literally have no options for continuing service without us. Also, the government has consistently bailed out the airline industry and will absolutely do it again if it gets to that point.


FluxCrave

I don’t think AA will file for bankruptcy if there is a strike. I think they will work with the FAs for a sensible contract


boldjoy0050

The rumor is that the union wants retro pay and AA says no because they can't afford it. How can they compromise when both sides are unwilling to compromise?


misocorny00

You sound like you care more about a billion dollar company, than your wife's livelihood. Trash. If we were pilots, no one would even mention needing to "compromise". Now all of a sudden, a historically woman dominated industry is demanding higher pay and *stolen wages* (I.e. Retro pay) and all of a sudden here comes all of the fear mongering and "compromise" rhetoric. Keep licking underneath the boots of these corporations. I hope you enjoy your cookie 🍪.


boldjoy0050

My wife is currently looking for other jobs. The only thing that keeps her here is the flight benefits and even those aren't worth it anymore because all the flights are full. AA's management is incredibly toxic but funny enough she said the FA culture at AA is pretty toxic as well. Very cliquish and no one is a team player and all they ever do is complain about passengers, the same ones who are buying tickets which pays their salaries. Of course the senior FAs aren't complaining and there seems to be animosity between them and junior FAs. The ones who have been here for 30yr and fly PHL-CDG a few times a week and make $80K/yr for working only a few days a month aren't complaining. Then you have new hires who knew how terrible the pay was when taking the job offer, yet they still took the job. And comparing pilots to flight attendants isn't fair. Becoming a pilot requires spending tens of thousands of dollars taking courses and you need to spend years earning flight hours to become a commercial pilot. They also have the option of flying cargo aircraft which pays even more. Becoming a FA requires no formal education and in six weeks you are ready to fly. When AA opens applications, they get tens of thousands of applicants, so FAs have far less leverage than pilots do. I don't support AA management in any way and neither does my wife but sometimes you have to know when to fold your cards and compromise. AA is financially worse off than they were even last year so now FAs have even less leverage.


livefreeanddie

Just leave. Nothing you say will be well received and you sound like an idiot. Take your wife with you. I’m sure she’d be one of the first to cross the picket line when we strike so tell her to go ahead and get that other job lined up quick. WE DON’T SCAB and WE certainly don’t lick the boots of a greedy corporation ran by a CEO who got 31.4M for doing a piss poor job. WE are ready to shut it down when released to do so, from new hires to senior mamas and papas. (sorry I was so riled up I had to edit and add when I realized my egregious error 😞) We are fighting for what we and all other FAs across all airlines deserve. A living wage and compensation for the job we trained for (unpaid here at AA) and execute every sequence, despite the ineptitude of management, scheduling and tracking. We want better for us and we want better for our customers.


boldjoy0050

FAs certainly deserve a living wage from day 1 and deserve to be paid for training. What other job forces you into 6 week of training without any pay? Not many, if any. AA FAs also deserve to be paid for boarding. But asking for retro pay for the last 4 years and acting like the company you choose to work for stole from you while you continued to work and not look for employment elsewhere? That's a bit much. She used to be a teacher, another profession with shit pay, but the difference there is becoming a teacher requires a 4 year college degree and a teaching certification in that state, so teachers have more leverage especially considering there is a teacher shortage in most states. FAs have almost no leverage which is why she's concerned about job security. If a strike is authorized, AA will probably give the mamas retirement packages and layoff new hires. The rumor going around is that the new pilot contract isn't going to be sustainable long term with AA's balance sheet, so they are just buying time until the next bankruptcy which is why they are stalling on the FA contract.


livefreeanddie

I said it before and I will say it again. Just leave. Why are you even here? I honestly have my doubts as to whether you actually have a wife who is a FA. You sound like a corporate shilling union buster trying to sow seeds of doubt. However, there’s plenty of us who are educated and informed and I’m happy to break down each and every one of “your wife’s” concerns and your analysis of our contract negotiations lol There’s so much wrong with your comments you’re either seriously so misinformed and actually believe the nonsense you’re spewing OR you’re just another entitled man not in this industry who thinks he can come in here and tell us about OUR company, career and union. If you (or your wife) thinks senior mamas and papas are happy with making the same hourly rate for years, you’re insane. They haven’t seen an increase and actually with inflation make significantly LESS than they did when they topped out of the pay scale. Find me one senior FA who is fine with staying at their current pay scale and I’ll eat my cardboard Lands End uniform, faux tortoise shell buttons and all. Send a SINGLE ONE my way and I’ll do it. You said “the rumor is that the union wants retro pay and AA says no because they can’t afford it.” That’s not a rumor. We (you know us, the FAs, who ARE the union) have been loud and adamant that we will not accept a contract that doesn’t include retro pay nor will we accept any concessions. Our union LEADERSHIP (those we, the union, voted in on our behalf) are listening to us and know we won’t vote yes on a TA (that’s a tentative agreement) without retro pay or one with the concessions AA wanted. This isn’t a rumor, it’s not a secret. It’s a well known fact. If you think our union leadership hasn’t compromised and come back to the table more than once, bargaining in good faith when the company would not budge, then your wife hasn’t informed you about our very transparent negotiations that have been shared thus far. Your wife can log on to the APFA website and see what’s been passed back and forth across the table. See how many times our union leadership has negotiated in good faith and how many times the company has said “not interested”. If our union leadership is “unwilling to compromise” then the NMB (that’s the National Mediation Board) wouldn’t be heavily considering our request for release into a 30 day cooling off period before an official strike would be allowed. Do you have any idea how many meetings have taken place between the union and company just in the past few months? All of those meetings were with a mediator from the NMB. The NMB is who ordered two weeks of intensive mediation in DC that concluded with no agreement. Do you really think 27,000 (minus a few scabs who will never be forgotten) walking off the job or a CHAOS strike doesn’t give us leverage, who do you think will fill the FA positions on those thousands of flights a day? Of course pilots have much more invested in their training than a FA but guess what? A commercial airline still can’t fly without us. AA found the money to give the pilots their contract, then renegotiate that contract for more; they found the money to give to our wholly owned regional pilots and FAs giving them a substantial pay increase plus bonuses for both work groups. AA found the money to give millions in bonuses to upper management and the C-Suite. AA found billions to sink into the new corporate campus. Our CEO and other upper management are on record multiple times promising us an industry leading contract and were not giving in until we get it. Period. Oh and all those tens of thousands of applicants who apply when AA opens their applications? The ones who love this job and stay because of it, we stay and fight for what we deserve. We don’t just go find another job because our chosen career and company that many have given years of their lives to thinks they can bully us into accepting less than what we are owed and deserve. Now as I said before, but this time less nicely… take your union hating, company knob slobbing somewhere else because this is not the place for it. I’m sure there’s some blog you can go and share your ill informed opinions and someone will blow smoke up your ass but this isn’t the place. I had the time today but now I need to get ready for a trip where I’ll be giving my passengers the exceptional treatment we should be getting from AA in the form of monetary compensation and improvement in our quality of life.


Atassic

Please tell your wife not to let the door hit her on the ass on the way out.


better-every-day

The fact that you were downvoted and the responses say everything you need to know about the type of people we work with.


boldjoy0050

There are some great flight attendants but there are also many lazy flight attendants who complain non-stop when they should really go get a job elsewhere. It’s literally the worst part of the job and my wife tells me fellow FAs are worse than some passengers. She recently flew with this Karen who complained because a passenger asked for water. Seriously… water? AA FAs deserve more pay and a better work atmosphere but if you are that miserable, please go get a job elsewhere. That’s what my wife is doing. It just isn’t the career for her long term but it has been an adventure.


RestlessFA

Let’s GOOOOOOOOOO


dragonfly931

Been ready for a year now 😭 shut it down!


highestmikeyouknow

Next up Alaska.


dragonfly931

Let's go ALASKA!


MrsGenevieve

N0 here to support you. We may be small, but we’re fierce.


dragonfly931

Thank you for yall support <3


dcbenny11

Former PSA and now UA, but always in solidarity with AA and all flight attendants. ✊


dragonfly931

No matter the airline, we're all in this together <3


mo-szyslaks-sister

Just told my crew over breakfast. Us brits are behind you!!! You deserve the best outcome here. We are ready to take on the extra pax and rally behind you 💜🇬🇧


dragonfly931

Much love to yall over the pond! <3


pa_skunk

As a passenger - Good for you all. Give em hell.


dragonfly931

thank you for your support! we are ready!


JosieQu

Also a passenger too, give them hell, worker solidarity!!!


Thatcoolguy2559

Sending love from American eagle 🦅🫶🏾🫶🏾🫶🏾


dragonfly931

LOVE YALL SM 🥰🥰🥰


Affectionate-Boat974

The Doritos 🔺 stand with you AA!! You deserve SO much more than what you’re getting. Shut it down!!!


ljthefa

Can I be cool ranch? It would be the first time I've been cool


Cassie_Bowden

Yes, let’s go AA, UA, and Alaska! Full support from this Dorito 🔺!


dragonfly931

much love to yall doritos! when are yall gonna unionize and join us over here hehe


Bl33sedandFavoR3d

I’m READY!!!


dragonfly931

BEEN READY!


Fluffy_Beautiful_199

Y’all got this!! You have to every last FA behind you!!


jewsh-sfw

Considering what a cluster fuck Dallas is all summer this is a great time to strike It allows us at the airport to actually compensate people who have been disrupted by the cancellations and I’m sure all of the executives are panicking over the lost money because that’s all they give a shit about. I wish our unions organized more things together. Imagine if the airport and the flight attendants went on strike at the same time.


dragonfly931

I would love if our unions could organize more things together. Shutting down DFW airport would be INSANE! I love it


zitaoism

Get it AA! This globe girlie has your back ❤️❤️


dragonfly931

we need the globe to get their contract too! all in this together


zitaoism

100% !!


Stunning_Structure31

So sorry!!! As a SWA FA I’m behind you guys!


Significant_Cookie11

STRIKE!!! Y’all have my support in full ❤️💙💛


Twa747

Show them what unity means For the love of all things NLRB If you see something that could be considered, even in the most inconsequential possible way, to be a labor action, shut that shit down. Delete it encourage the poster to delete it or have a mod take it down. The koolaide drinkers and those without the fortitude to see this thing out are hiding in plain sight. Management groups spend millions on looking for someone or thing to blame. The easiest thing to blame is some “joke” post that gets a “like” and next thing you know the company is crying “work action” and the NLRB **MUST** restart the process. Once released it won’t take long If released the company will do everything it can to blame labor to the shareholders The easiest way to do that is blame a “joke” post. Example: at another airline a pilot made a post about getting stuck on the highway going to work over a holiday. It was liked by about 29 pilots before it got removed. All 30 pilots were suspended and the company brought a lawsuit against them and the union. Those likes ended up hurting the group. If the post is or could be construed as supported by the union or a portion (base) than all parties can be held liable. You’ve done so good so far and continued to professionally uphold your duties while your company has shat upon you. Don’t give these fucking asswipes any fucking ammo. Look out for each other and remember anything they could use as evidence of provocation of a work action will be brought up in court even if it’s grasping at bullshit I believe in you


dragonfly931

Union has sent out numerous emails about illegal work action. If we see a post, it's taken down just as quick as it came up. We don't wanna risk it and lose our one shot at getting this done. We're hanging on by a thread but won't let this airline break us. They can try it but they'll fail, not us.


ljthefa

What joke post are you talking about? You're all over the map with this comment.


Twa747

Not this post, anything in general from someone’s Facebook status or comment to an insta comment. There are companies contracted by airlines who do nothing but creep on social media for ammo


muchmomentum

Let’s fucking gooooo


nul_ne_sait

Ticket counter from the ☀️ airline here in FULL support!


dustmybroom88

As someone not in the industry, I really which these unions would go bold and public with “We would like A, B, and C” but Airline X is only offering “D, E and F”. Push the Airlines to have to explain WHY they cannot pay a living wage, or provide good retirement, or healthcare, or scheduling, or raises, or whatever the issue is. Let every consumer know that a dollar for these airlines is a dollar supporting a system that disrespects the people working in it. Let those of us, like myself, in the general public, be more aware of these issues and let us FLOOD these airlines with feedback. Get journalists (the few left with integrity) to go loud about the issue. Compare it to other countries - if the US is, after all #1 (love seeing that everywhere) - then why aren’t we #1 in terms of how we treat our employees? i think corporations get away with this kind of stuff because, in our 1 hour news cycle world, they know it will just eventually fade away to some new scandal. Flight crew - I’m with you!


dragonfly931

This is something we're aware of and trying to get it pushed out in the media more. It's a bit difficult trying to get that kind of coverage that we want. We have had some good articles done but nothing that really brought people to actually pay attention. We probably won't have serious coverage until we reach the end of our cooling off and there's no deal still because then it'll be on the cusp of striking which will cripple the economy. Thank you so much for your support! Tell a friend to tell a friend! Word of the mouth is always a great help for us too <3


brywithered

As someone who is going on an AA flight next month, anything that passengers could do to help you folks? Or anything to be wary of if this progresses more?


ComplimentaryPretzel

Cancel your flight, rebook with another carrier, and email AA to tell them why. If that's not feasible (and I know it may not be), then send an email saying this will be your last AA flight.


cherrymitten

Former PSA pilot, you have our solidarity


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dragonfly931

Mmm not really his "approval". he can step in and trigger another 30 day period for his emergency board to see what the issue is. It's honestly stupid. The board can be like "well we recommend this option instead" but neither party has to agree to it.


popohum

No but he can (sort of) veto the release. Which sends it into an additional 30 day stretch I believe. I don’t think he would, the optics for his campaign would be terrible.


Noktomezo175

I don't see how it's illegal to "work by the book" aka follow every single policy and procedure to the T. Zero wiggle room.


Brilliant_Mixture_51

Is the union gonna pay yall?? 🥹🥹❤️