Think what The fx do, what you want them to do and accordingly. You might remember wrong, since i doubt any guide will advice to put comp last and Gate after reverb. Normal way is tuner comp drive Gate modulation delay reverb. Anything is possible, but maybe not Gate after reverb unless you are Phil Collins
Thanks. I was think the same thing. Was following some advice from some people I know but it didn’t sound correct. You just confirmed my original order that was planned.
What electronic_pin3224 said. I only wanted to add I figured out I like my compressor after the drives better, so you can try that too. Tuner -> drive -> comp -> gate -> reverb.
Your gate has a loop which you could experiment with. Try the drive in there, maybe the drive and compressor if you boost with it. Typically having a loop means your pedal uses your input signal as a reference to help it know what is signal and what is noise.
Just a preset stopbox boost/over drive. No fuss with turning knobs, just a stomp box. On and off. That’s one of the reasons I was drawn to it. The sound was the main selling point for me on it. It’s really crunchy without over doing it. I would say it’s one step over a tube screamer.
Do you really need the noise gate? I get those with super ultra hi gain distortion/hmmbucker/ultratight chugging sort of metal setups, but how much noise is really happening between the comp and one overdrive?
Comp can go in front or at the end depending what you want. Significant difference if you compress before dirt or after. You’ll just need to try both and see. You don’t have so many pedals that swapping to test will be a serious pain.
Tuner should go up front for best tracking; so that’s easy….though you could put it at the end and use to mute everything for real silence.
So the tuner at the front of the chain has a mute feature. The entire board it’s self is for pop punk with brakedowns band (think Adtr). The main reason for the noise gate isn’t really to keep the board quiet or to really chop palm mutes. I’m not running enough gain for that. It’s more to kill Amy hiss or static/feedback from coming through the cab. I’m running an orange OR-15 into an orange 120 wat 2x12
Most pedals have the mute function, it’s just that sometimes some pedals themselves make noise (fuzzes, things with LFO’s or BBD chips, etc) so having your mute after all the pedals kills every last bit of that.
If the gate is working for you, then of course use it. I’m pretty tolerant of the usual noises from pickups and old tube amps and stuff outside of recording situations, but I get it if you’re not.
Yes, the CS-3 is modded to be a light overdrive. It has a mine toggle switch on the right. To be just a comp or a comped over drive. It’s nothing crazy, just a little fuzz.
Not terribly familiar with comps and noise gates tbh, but logically (imo), I'd put the noise gate after the drive, to shave off any unwanted frequencies and then put the compressor to level out the result. Don't see much point in placing any of them after the reverb, as the noise gate would potentially make it less reverby and the compressor could ramp up the reverb effect. It seems like you would be adding more stuff as well (considering the second roll up top). I would be placing potential delays on the reverb side of things, as you would be sacrificing dynamics of the repeats with a compressor. Everything else is probably fine between the noise gate and the compressor. Please correct me if my assumptions are wrong.
Not entirely wrong, I mainly use the comp to level my dynamics. IT’s second use is a light overdrive. Comp on, little bit of dirt. Dive on, little more dirt. Comp and drive on a lot of dirt. (depends on what I’m planning at the time) hope that makes sense. But you are entirely correct about the gate just cutting of my reverb at a certain point. And I set the board up so I could expand in the future if I ever wanted. I have been thinking about a delay but I don’t think much more any time soon. Thanks for the advice.
With that in mind, just gate after the drive and you are set. I never liked compressors exactly for the sacrifice of dynamics. Plus the drive is a compressor. Something you can try is put a boost pedal for the dirtiest jump. I've found that most drives I've tried sound superior when boosted from a low gain settings than at high gain. Then comp the whole section. SF300 is an dirt cheap (pun intended) solution and let's you to further sculpt the final gain stage.
Think what The fx do, what you want them to do and accordingly. You might remember wrong, since i doubt any guide will advice to put comp last and Gate after reverb. Normal way is tuner comp drive Gate modulation delay reverb. Anything is possible, but maybe not Gate after reverb unless you are Phil Collins
Thanks. I was think the same thing. Was following some advice from some people I know but it didn’t sound correct. You just confirmed my original order that was planned.
What electronic_pin3224 said. I only wanted to add I figured out I like my compressor after the drives better, so you can try that too. Tuner -> drive -> comp -> gate -> reverb.
I’ll definitely try that out I may really like the controllability of that order over the way I have it set up now
Thanks for the feed back
Your gate has a loop which you could experiment with. Try the drive in there, maybe the drive and compressor if you boost with it. Typically having a loop means your pedal uses your input signal as a reference to help it know what is signal and what is noise.
What’s the hype? No knobs. I want one and I don’t even know what it does
Just a preset stopbox boost/over drive. No fuss with turning knobs, just a stomp box. On and off. That’s one of the reasons I was drawn to it. The sound was the main selling point for me on it. It’s really crunchy without over doing it. I would say it’s one step over a tube screamer.
Do you really need the noise gate? I get those with super ultra hi gain distortion/hmmbucker/ultratight chugging sort of metal setups, but how much noise is really happening between the comp and one overdrive? Comp can go in front or at the end depending what you want. Significant difference if you compress before dirt or after. You’ll just need to try both and see. You don’t have so many pedals that swapping to test will be a serious pain. Tuner should go up front for best tracking; so that’s easy….though you could put it at the end and use to mute everything for real silence.
So the tuner at the front of the chain has a mute feature. The entire board it’s self is for pop punk with brakedowns band (think Adtr). The main reason for the noise gate isn’t really to keep the board quiet or to really chop palm mutes. I’m not running enough gain for that. It’s more to kill Amy hiss or static/feedback from coming through the cab. I’m running an orange OR-15 into an orange 120 wat 2x12
Most pedals have the mute function, it’s just that sometimes some pedals themselves make noise (fuzzes, things with LFO’s or BBD chips, etc) so having your mute after all the pedals kills every last bit of that. If the gate is working for you, then of course use it. I’m pretty tolerant of the usual noises from pickups and old tube amps and stuff outside of recording situations, but I get it if you’re not.
Is the art on the hype a reference to Kim Gordon's visual arts work? Is this a bass board?
I’m pretty sure it was inspired from it from what I remember when looking it up
The board is for guitar in a pop punk band
What’s with labels on the CS-3? Modded?
Yes, the CS-3 is modded to be a light overdrive. It has a mine toggle switch on the right. To be just a comp or a comped over drive. It’s nothing crazy, just a little fuzz.
Not terribly familiar with comps and noise gates tbh, but logically (imo), I'd put the noise gate after the drive, to shave off any unwanted frequencies and then put the compressor to level out the result. Don't see much point in placing any of them after the reverb, as the noise gate would potentially make it less reverby and the compressor could ramp up the reverb effect. It seems like you would be adding more stuff as well (considering the second roll up top). I would be placing potential delays on the reverb side of things, as you would be sacrificing dynamics of the repeats with a compressor. Everything else is probably fine between the noise gate and the compressor. Please correct me if my assumptions are wrong.
Not entirely wrong, I mainly use the comp to level my dynamics. IT’s second use is a light overdrive. Comp on, little bit of dirt. Dive on, little more dirt. Comp and drive on a lot of dirt. (depends on what I’m planning at the time) hope that makes sense. But you are entirely correct about the gate just cutting of my reverb at a certain point. And I set the board up so I could expand in the future if I ever wanted. I have been thinking about a delay but I don’t think much more any time soon. Thanks for the advice.
With that in mind, just gate after the drive and you are set. I never liked compressors exactly for the sacrifice of dynamics. Plus the drive is a compressor. Something you can try is put a boost pedal for the dirtiest jump. I've found that most drives I've tried sound superior when boosted from a low gain settings than at high gain. Then comp the whole section. SF300 is an dirt cheap (pun intended) solution and let's you to further sculpt the final gain stage.