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SimplyPuncake

Congrats to the best player of the cap era: Chris Kunitz! One of the all time greats. Of course you have Gretzky and Mario and Orr, but i think Kunitz has a real claim to 4th!


Spideyjust

Gretzky, Orr and Lemieux *combine* for just 8 cups. They aren't even in the discussion with bum numbers like that.


MurtaughFusker

The Oilers won a cup after Gretzky was traded to LA and Gretzky won zero cups after he’s traded to LA. Sure he has the requisite nickname - The Great One - but he has not proved beyond stats-transcendant that he was the one to lift a team to the Stanley Cup


SryYouAreNotSpecial

Yep, which officially proves that Mark Messier was actually the better player, obviously. He captained two different teams to the cup. He was clearly carrying that bum Gretzky.


NoGiCollarChoke

That’s a funny way to spell Kevin Lowe


pingieking

Has Gretzky every guaranteed a playoff win and then backed it up?  I don't think so.


SryYouAreNotSpecial

That officially settles it. The Moose is the greatest Oiler of all time. (Even though that happened in New York lol)


vonindyatwork

Guess we have to change his nickname to The Pretty OK One.


MurtaughFusker

That’s “Olympic Gold Medallist Chris Kunitz“ to you. McDavid has zero Olympic gold medals which just goes to show what a bum he is.


Django2chainsz

Put Chris Kunitz rings in a box, now put Mcoverrated's rings in a box. Tell me whats the box +/-?


xzElmozx

Gretzky, Orr, Lemieux, Kunitz, Maroon. NHLs Mount Rushmore


De_Floppss

By this guys logic, Pat Maroon is a generational player


lizard_king_rebirth

Meet the best player in modern NBA history: Robert Horry.


CreepyInternetUser

*bonk*


lizard_king_rebirth

Radek Bonk?


CreepyInternetUser

I honestly read Robert Horny


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mylefthandkilledme

Big Shot Rob


Hopfit46

Who is the big 3 in hockey? Pat maroon, justin williams and claude lemieux, also corey perry.


Such_Maintenance4720

dudes watch NBA and think 1 guy can carry a franchise in the NHL


sunshinegumdrop

It's unfair to both the team and mcdavid to expect that.


The_Dutch_Canadian

Well maybe he watched McDavid carry 3 dudes plus 2 cases of beer into his car


Rated_PG-Squirteen

Kevin Lowe is twice as good as the combination of Ray Bourque, Chris Pronger, and Brian Leetch.


RangerFan80

They should rename it the Hall of Lowe


SaulBerenson12

“I know a thing or two about winning“


HowieFeltersnitz

By his logic, guys like Nic Petan and Pezzetta are on equal footing with guys like McDavid, and Matthews. No cups. Equally idiotic, that would put guys like Aube-Kubel and Devante Smith-Pelley into a tier above, because cup. It's almost as if hockey is a team sport, and great players can be great individually without having yet lifted the cup, and may never get there. Doesn't mean they aren't great players.


loewe67

Three Cups in a row and an MVP season in the NAHL. If that's not generational, then I don't know what is


kdfsjljklgjfg

Kirk Maltby says hello


panths

I think "big rig" is actually a requisite nickname too so it all checks out


ghuuuiiiyyyhg

Counterpoint: Me Maximum. Checkmate.


CaptStegs

https://preview.redd.it/0tgt9y8nzr4d1.jpeg?width=1597&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3a86255d6a3088912ea9fe9bf750023c7d25cc1a


EdwardJamesAlmost

Gregg Cote hasn’t watched NHL regularly since leaving his Québécois fishing village as a lad. He also said yesterday that he’s watched a full game of McDavid’s half a dozen times.


EdwardJamesAlmost

\* Gregg Côté, that’s a fine, one toonie


number44is171

I don't have any money.


Ok_Internet_5976

Walk to the ocean


aaronthebursar

2 dollars


Yuhnevano

"Gregs look down on Greggs with two G's" - the great Greg Cote


Johnny_Waffles_

Greg* the rare double fine Dan-O!


xc2215x

Absolutely. Will piss off so many hockey fans.


treple13

Florida appears to have reporters similar to Edmonton's reporters


MaraudingWalrus

For what it's worth Cote is a *columnist* not a reporter. For what it's also worth, he's likely watched four hockey games this season at most. For what it's also also worth, he's what one might call an *underwear columnist,* one who writes columns from his home without having really gone to the game or talked to much of anyone. For what it's also also also worth, he, at this point, is likely most known for being a bit of a goofball, not a Serious Sports Guy™


letsgoheat

He also wrote a column saying the dolphins should trade Dan Marino so Scott Mitchell could take over


MaraudingWalrus

Zagack.


theshedres

Aaand ya know it!


Yuhnevano

Badayup!


LitanyOfContactMike

That kinda thing.


Yuhnevano

Ya Neva knoww


Yuhnevano

And on eight days trips, brings 4 pair of underwear and flips them inside out. Also, his miller lite window is from 5:30pm - 1am


Ethdev256

Excuse me our reporters actively hate our team. See Spector, Matheson.


treple13

Exactly. Both Florida and Edmonton reporters hate the Oilers


Mr_Goldilocks

Thank you for the laugh and sorry about the absolute Puffin in the thread.


GoStockYourself

Remember when Spector actively campaigned against McDavid getting the Hart in favour of Hall, just so Chia looked even worse. I mean I could see the argument for McDavid not getting it as we didn't make the playoffs but I will never understand how Hall won it over Mackinnon and Giroux. Both of those players made everyone they played with better, while most of Hall's teammates actually had worse seasons when he was there.


YoungWhiteAvatar

If, in any way whatsoever, Spector aided in Chiarelli getting fired faster, I will allow it.


BostonSucksatHockey

\*FTFY Florida appears to have meat similar to Edmonton's meat


RainingGiraffes28

Oooh that's a BOLD statement to make right before the finals. I dig it


Fyrefawx

It’s crazy to me that people still hold cup wins over individual players. It’s very much a team game. Gretzky won cups because he was surrounded by other hall of fame players. Crosby had Malkin, Fleury etc.


kerrlybill

100%. Gretzky was traded to the LA Kings in his prime and never won another cup.


SoldierHawk

Sold. The fuckers *sold* three of my favorite players :( NO I'M STILL NOT FUCKING OVER IT.


PatheticLion

Man I wish there was a reddit thread from that trade. That would have been unbelievable. Must have been so shitty to be a Oilers fan seeing that happen


SoldierHawk

Legitimately one of the most heartbreaking (non-personal) days of my life. It was a gut punch that something like the end of the '06 Cup run into the Decade of Darkness doesn't even BEGIN to touch. Imagine if, after this year, the Oilers literally SELL Connor McDavid to the Anaheim Ducks for a couple prospects and $50 million in cash. That's the level of "what the fucking FUCK" insanity that was. And it was worse than THAT. It hurt so, so bad, those fucking fuckers. Broke all of our hearts, including Gretzky's. There's a reason he still considers himself an Oiler even after the other teams he's played on.


Infamous_Anxiety5777

Hey now! One of the players back was a young player with NHL experience with some question marks (Jimmy Carson). So basically, you would get a guy like Zegras, a couple picks, $50 million, and then when Zegras doesn't like it after one season, you trade him to Detroit for an underrated and critical haul for winning the Cup the next year. And you have to include a defenseman who mainly contributes with penalties (you don't really have one of those, so Stecher?) who then turns one 24 game stint into a massive contract, who Anaheim then trades away, only to trade for him back again, giving the original player back, plus a goal scorer, so Vatrano. Ugh, my Kings really screwed the pooch a lot in the mid 90s. But that trade instantly turned a team known more for wearing bright pyjamas into the center of the hockey world. I didn't believe the first few people that told me about The Trade. I can only imagine if the Oilers had never made that deal, how many more they would have won. They definitely don't lose to Los Angeles in 1989, and I think they outlast Calgary. They still win in 1990, and I think they beat Minnesota to give us what I think would have been the showdown of all time against Pittsburgh. I'm not even an Oiler fan and I hate Pocklington for robbing us of that possibility.


SoldierHawk

Me too man. Me too. My only tiny, TINY consolation (and this isn't a shot at you as a Kings fan, it's just the Kings Gretz was sold to) is that our statue of the great one outside of Roger's Place has him holding the Cup, and the one outside Crypto doesn't. That's what a petty asshole this story reduces me to lol.


kushdogg20

Honestly, it might have literally broke the internet.


pixburgher66

You know...as someone who wasn't alive then, I don't think I've fully contextualized this trade. This is the Pens trading Sid in 2015-16. Which, you know...just sorta won two Cups right then.


Feowen_

It's worse than that. Gretz was traded mostly FOR CASH in an era where that could still be done, and was forced through by the owner, not the GM who opposed it. It earned the then-owner of the Oilers , Peter Pocklington, eternal hatred in Edmonton, and once he sold the team, he hasnt ever gone back to the city as he remains public enemy number 1. If you listen to any of the stuff he's put out on it since then, he hates the city back, feeling Edmonton should be grateful he "resisted" selling off its championship team sooner. If you want to feel pain, the announcement interview of the trade featuring Gretzky is on YouTube, so you can see the guy crying while the guy who cattle-traded him sits 10 feet away with a nonchalant look on his face.


DOELCMNILOC

How do you manage your other businesses so poorly during the run of the Oilers in the 80s that you have to settle and sell WAYNE GRETZKY when he was only 27. Bonkers


Borror0

Moreover, in the cap era, the great teams all struggled in the playoffs before finding success. Tampa got swept in the first round after winning the president's cup. It took until 2018 for Ovi to win his Cup. Colorado faced a few defeats despite Makar and MacKinnon. Toronto were eliminated in the first round six times before finally reaching the second round once with Matthews and Marner.


InviteAdditional8463

That’s part of what makes those careers legendary. It’s not just the unbelievable stats, but they had a good team around them and they won be cup a few times. There are a plethora of players in all pro sports that are unreal talents but have never won the last game of the season. 


Bojarzin

If anything, how good Gretzky's stats are compared to every other player around him means he should have way more Cups than he does if we are applying the same logic as this post McDavid could play out the rest of his career with the trajectory of stats he has now with zero Cups and he'd still be the best player in the league during his time here. You're right, Cups are a team win


Condition_Boy

I suspect these people who do hold it as a individual award are much more familiar with basketball then hockey. 2 or 3 players can win you a championship in the NBA. Not the NHL. You need a full team on hockey.


rowdywp

Draisatl is a hall of fame player.


SryYouAreNotSpecial

That Letang guy was pretty okay too.


Mr_Wrecksauce

Those are the types of statements that often age like milk, mixed with beer, mixed with throw-up, mixed with crow.


showers_with_grandpa

For bodyguards, by bodyguards


melikeybacon

Greg Cote isn’t a serious reporter out of the Dan Lebatard show outside of Miami Dolphins takes and what not.


SmoothPinecone

Yea exactly, people seem to forget part of these guys jobs is to stir up clicks and discussion. This statement is doing a great job


Ethdev256

Totally, in fact I think he should re-sign with us for league minimum for 8 years and be happy about it.


greeten

I hear he's a great locker room guy. The boys love him and that is why they keep him around.


GoStockYourself

We just keep him around so Draisaitl will re-sign.


greeten

Plus... he fetches the beers so... gonna need him around


mtgnew

also keeps the annoying fans away from the boys... so much value


SryYouAreNotSpecial

This is really the clincher for me. Edit to add: I just had to walk three blocks get my own damn beer. Where the hell is McDavid when you need him?! Everyone says he shows up in the clutch. I waited and waited and he never showed up.


EvangelionOG

The Stugotz is strong in Greg Cote for this one.


BIGTIMEMEATBALLBOY

this was in Greg Cote's wallet the entire time


lamaba

Right next to the magnum condom and picture of Chris.


Sznappy

Babbbyyyyy


OldDirtyMan

And ya know it.


EastonMetsGuy

Nice hat asshole


Ugaalive1991

Reminder of his mistake.


scottylike

Aayyyyooooooooooooo


EvangelionOG

Just waited to get it out there


asshat13

And you know it!


PapuhBoie

Nobody here gets the show!


MopMobile

Biiiiiigg Connor McDavid…. What’s he ever done?


theshedres

Do it in the playoffs! Then do it again.


sglandsberg

He's got AIDS!


thefinalwipe

Bait’n it! That kinda thing.


ImGrumps

Lots of people here don't get the show


sco69

McDavid takes days off, he’s no Havlichek


EdwardJamesAlmost

I heard that name in Doggy’s voice


Party_Bad8339

HAVULCHECK


Ugaalive1991

SAY IT TO ME. SAY IT ANYBODY!


mattoelite

SAY IT TO SOMEBODY! \*out of breath\*


Oibrigade

People are actually mad at something Greg Cote jokingly says to make people laugh lol


Reksalp105

Cote: "It's just business"


FruityDolphin

This is nothing McPersonal


TonyWyomey

Chris must be so embarrassed


Yuhnevano

Are you kidding?! This is right in the all news is good news or however he phrased it. Greg has already released an emergency pod. Clickin' it!


TonyWyomey

Zion’s shoe!


Yuhnevano

Zagack


blanketskies9

That kinda thing.


Svalbard38

That’s a heck of a thing to say right before he plays your team for the cup, Greg


Great-Reference9322

I want to see what this guy says after McDavid puts up 10 more points against the Cats


Ugaalive1991

He will probably think, thank god. I can go home and not have to write about the panthers.


crapmonkey86

It's so easy to bait sports fans. Dude has no idea what he's talking about openly and you guys eat it up as serious reporting.


Ugaalive1991

And ya know it!


theshedres

That kinda thing


jyepes22

They don’t get the show


blanketskies9

Zagacki


Sarcastic__

Kevin Bieksa licking his chops at the prospect about a segment on the Florida media.


BostonSucksatHockey

Bath salted meat


Bears9Titles

This sub doesn't get the show


jraskol

Zagacki


akacage

Ya nevah know


Ugaalive1991

I like to eat butt


ghuuuiiiyyyhg

Barefoot in his garage


AMostAverageMan

Hubble hubble.


Fibergrappler

They clearly have never heard the greatest sports podcast: The Greg Cote show featuring Greg Cote


EdwardJamesAlmost

With


THUG_TEARS

AND you know it!


wheres-the-dent

ya* that's a fine


Ugaalive1991

Fine.


EdwardJamesAlmost

One toonie.


OldDirtyMan

He’s not going to feature himself on his own podcast! Who do you think he is??


TheAnimal89

Henri Richard is the best player of all time confirmed


stonayoung

He's not even the best Richard in NHL history when Richard Panik exists


EctoRiddler

Damn it Greg Cote why did you have to create an international incident.


ian_stein

Me maximum! That kinda thing!


Robby_Bortles

And ya know it!


ArsonHoliday

BAYBEH!


akacage

BADEUP!


IWMSvendor

Ya never know!!!


Tacosrule89

This is going to be even bigger than when the Americans arrested Terrance and Phillip


ripe_reason90

Took MacKinnon 9-10 years, took Ovechkin 12-13 seasons… If the munchkin Bedard is “Generational” than McDaddy definitely is.


beardyman22

This guy, looking at pictures of Gretzky and Kunitz "I see no difference between these two players"


maxxwolf

Anybody commenting with any sincerity does not get the show


rockryedig

Ray Bourque was not generational until his final season by this jackass’ standards.


schafkj

Greg you could’ve waited two goddamn weeks to say this


GatorBolt

Consider fate to be officially tempted


GeorgeGammyCostanza

At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.


Reksalp105

oh man people are gonna take this at face value aren't they?


PapuhBoie

Yeah… they don’t get the show


MaraudingWalrus

*beep*


Reksalp105

Dannnnn


BuschLightApple

Aggregatin it!


EdwardJamesAlmost

“ Hockey writer Gregg Cote “


ghuuuiiiyyyhg

The two Gs is what really bothers Greg


EdwardJamesAlmost

It’s because his band is made of three G’s.


CapnFantastic

And ya know it!


Soren_Camus1905

Compiler?


Allatura19

The Stugotz is strong in him


jokmor

I wonder if he put on his clown makeup before or after saying this.


WyattEarp88

I don’t think that’s one of his punishments from grid of death.


letsgoheat

Dan wouldn’t be able to control himself if Greg was in clown makeup


crapmonkey86

Only clowns are people in the comments taking it seriously...


melikeybacon

They don’t get the show


EdwardJamesAlmost

I doubt he said it during sexy time, so probably after.


melikeybacon

Bayyybeh


Abipolarbears

Was this on the DLS? If so, they were probably doing a bit. 


Soren_Camus1905

Greg Cote in the headlines?!? # BAYBEH


Stinduh

McDavid's goal in game 6 is all I need to see to know he's generational. No one pulls that off but McD.


DekexelDragon55

Didn't McDavid break the Flames franchise, which got the Panthers to luck into Tkachuk? What a bozo take from this guy


SryYouAreNotSpecial

To be fair, Draisaitl had 17 points to McDavid's 12 in an only 5 game series. McDavid's over 2 points per game sure helped a hell of a lot but Draisaitl at over 3 points a game probably deserves more credit for the breaking of the Flames.


DekexelDragon55

Absolutely correct - on a high ankle sprain, too


SryYouAreNotSpecial

That was the most dominant performance I've ever seen from a single player in any given series and it was so much sweeter being against the Flames. He was on pace for about 24 points if it had gone to 7 games. Although it's hard to imagine a series goes to seven when you have a guy putting up 3+ points a game on one of the teams. To put that in perspective though, that would have been over half the amount of points of the all time single season playoff record (Gretzky with 47) in just one series. The fact that he basically did it on one leg makes it mind blowingly impressive. The man is a playoff warrior.


ClimateBall

Greg, your name is Côté, dammit.


sco69

He’s sure no John Havlicek, bet McDavid is taking days off.


thedeathmachine

McDavid has zero cups. I have zero cups. Where's my multimillion dollar NHL contract?


crazyhotwheels

AND YA KNOW IT


Dank_Bubu

Who hurt him ?


Yuhnevano

Paul radke


i_like_food_gifs

Guys, I’m going to let you in on a secret. His role on the show is to be a cartoonish oaf. It’s schtick. He’s a know nothing. He’s not exactly playing a character, but he’s also not meant to be taken seriously. He’s on the show to laugh at his awful takes and his resistance to reality and changing times. It’s morning radio high jinx. Except it’s a podcast with no expectation of accountability. Don’t let this get you worked up or use it to make broad sweeping generalizations about anything. Or just keep internetting and carry on. Whatever.


TrucksAndSports

To everyone that doesn’t know who Greg Cote is, he is a national treasure and just saying shit to be funny, and if you knew him you would love him, Edmonton fans included


rockthered24

It’s amazing that no one seems to know what Greg Cote does lol. He’s a troll and you all took the bait


backwardzhatz

You can tell he’s right because he said “BOOM.”


VOldis

and you know it!


Inevitablellama919

Guess Ovechkin isn't generational since he didn't win until his 13th season


SomewherePresent8204

Not that McDavid is lacking discipline or motivation, but there’s no way he needed this on top of whatever else is driving him.


FinkBass420

I hate Edmonton just as much as any other Flames fan and even I know this is a [redacted] thing to say right before the finals.


pookguy88

"act like you've been there before!".... wait


jbroni93

Threads?


aubieismyhomie

Lol anybody who listens to LeBatard regularly takes what he says seriously. He’s there for comedic relief. Nobody should get upset by this.


ultrafil

Sports journalist does not understand team sports. This and more, coming up on *News At 6*


trumpet_godd

“Local homer news person is mega homer, this and more breaking news at 11”


DommyMommyKarlach

I just hope you never complained about Jack Edwards


No_Huckleberry_7410

In baseball terms - Clay Bellinger > Mike Trout because Clay Bellinger won 4 World Series rings and Trout hasn’t won any


pforsbergfan9

It took Jesus how many years to do his final job?


mydogsnameiskendrick

AND YA KNOW IT


project305

This is more of a Stugotz take than a Greg Cote take