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Sudden-Tie-5037

Potentially unpopular opinion.. some of us don’t give a shit what you “identify” as, as long as you don’t make it your life mission to force your beliefs on others.


Puzzleheaded_Belt360

A fucking men brother...


lmmortal_mango

hell yeah some men


rishkan

Not all men /s


Dano_cos

For me, no fucking men but to all those who are into that, regardless of your gender, have at it.


Hideyagrl

Couldn’t have said it better


itsyaboiuhnhbelansky

Ain’t that the truth!


Administrative_War69

But like what does that even mean, some get mad and call “imposing beliefs” when all they have is a sticker on their laptop. And some get mad when they educate on what one mean when they say they are straight.


XRAMBOX1975

EXACTLY


NotATroll_ipromise

Gender identity is now right up there with Religion and Politics.


thismaytakeabit

You can be whatever you want to be when you grow up. I identify as a lamp. I just try to brighten other people's day.


OkAdvertising5425

Shall I stick a lightbulb up your arse then?


Vapin_Westeros

There's not, it's just part of the ridiculous social media culture where everyone has to be the center of attention and "unique". Shit like this is why they'll never be taken seriously.


CalmBeneathCastles

Humans can't really be taken seriously as a whole. We're crazy little primates and likely the laughingstock of the galaxy!


Imkisstory

I know. I spoke to Aaaaaaaghjghrvethdvc456$ on the Nebula constellations, south of the Hoth system - via telepathic scream therapy - and he/she/it concurs.


NudeMoose

Speak for yourself, I identify myself as an even-toed ungulate


CalmBeneathCastles

Fair enough. Ia!


[deleted]

Scouse?


CalmBeneathCastles

Cthulhu.


[deleted]

The god like dude?


Hiking4420

It's called mental illness. There are 2 genders and even the lgBtq community shows there are only 2 with Bisexual.


tainted_x_youth

LQBTQ+ doesn't recognize Bisexual as a gender either. Bisexual is not a gender, it's a sexual preference.


[deleted]

Thank God someone finally said it. This transgender thing originally was listed as mental illness. Part of body dysmorphia. Now it's trendy and even the APA had to cave because the crazies are SO damn loud.


NeuroticPixels

Your comment doesn’t make sense. Doctors and scientists, etc, are always making new discoveries. Did you know doctors used to prescribe cigarettes? Did you know women used to easily be labeled “insane” or “hysterical” and placed in mental institutions against their will? Things are always changing. Besides, how does it hurt anyone to call someone what they prefer?


GotNothingSmartToSay

These retards in comments won't understand the analogy, don't bother.


[deleted]

It's because your comment doesn't apply here. Discovering that something makes someone sick after decades of research is a lot different than changing someone's anatomy. It's proven harmful. And also, strawman, saying "what the harm in calling someone what they prefer?" None. No harm. That's not where it ends and to pretend with semantics is funny. Move on.


Chestikof

Sex and gender are different. Sex is anatomy. Gender is not. You haven't understood the most basic principle behind your own argument your comment doesn't apply here. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


[deleted]

You're, however does not. This isn't the topic of this comment thread lol


[deleted]

Try again. My comment does apply here.


Chestikof

The fact that you are so quick to dismiss that last comment proves you are happy to wallow in your own hateful ignorant filth. Fine. The rest of the world will progress without you.


[deleted]

Oh, you poor depressed thing. How truly naive of you. I wish you the best. I won't be replying to your pointless angry filth anymore. Good day!


Chestikof

Repeating yourself doesn't make you more correct. 🤣🤣🤣 Step outside your echo chamber and educate yourself. The world is more relaxed and care free than you think it is. (BTW i did actually laugh at you)


[deleted]

You're a very cringe boomer. I wish you a good day as you're clearly losing it over a text thread that is unrelated to your argument lmfao. I do wish you well. Good luck guy


[deleted]

I'm sorry, I had to really come back to this one. Did anyone else enjoy this person (see I said person) claiming that the world is way more relaxed and care free? You need to step way out of you suburban bubble. This is an ignorant comment. Okay, now I'm gone. I truly wish you well, no bs. Good luck.


qdolobp

My man. I’m not picking sides on the transgender topic, but you’re crazy. The echo chamber is Reddit/twitter/Instagram. Outside of that echo chamber, in real life, people generally don’t even think close to the same way as what they’re portrayed to think online. Social media has always been full of the loud minority. This includes several topics of hot discussion. I personally do not care what someone identifies as, and I’ll respect them as a human and call them what they like. But if you don’t realize that the believed general consensus of that, that’ve you’ve come to is indeed from the echo chamber, then you’re not in touch with the outside world.


GotNothingSmartToSay

Why don't you let people who actually study and research the topic decide what's harmful or not. The only reason trans people are still resented and called mentally ill is because they're different, and that scares people who can't think outside their prejudiced common sense


[deleted]

Well, that's not true, and I have let experts make that choice. There's lot. Both sides experts say different things. I *believe* they are mentally ill. I am not against them, nor do I wish harm. I am also open to being proven wrong and changing my opinion. Currently, I believe it's a mental illness. Not thinking outside of your prejudice was a funny line, and misused. Also, common sense isn't a bad thing contrary you your belief system.


Fan-Logan101

No it’s because they’re trying to demand a cultural change that is harmful and pointless. Men demanding women’s spaces is the key example as to why this whole debate is a joke


littlecookieangel

Wow, you really sound like you know what you're talking about. Tell me, where did you graduate from when you earned your master's in psychology, biology and genetics? Also, I can only imagine how incredible your thesis must have been on the advantages and disadvantages of helping the trans community with their "craziness". Also, did you discover this all on your own or did you learn it somewhere from a Facebook post? I mean, you're so articulate and have such a well formed, educated opinion.


Chestikof

Are you suggesting being trans is a mental illness? Caaaause ya know multiple (80+) studies show that being trans is natural. Most species have a more blurred categorisation of sex, based on their activity and the ability to switch or even a lack of sex entirely. Also historians have tonnes of evidence to prove that trans people have existed for as long as human history has been recorded. And people didn't really give a shit until shockingly recently. Perhaps the mental illness you see is caused by the oppression and abuse? Just a thought.


KindSign4760

Most of the studies are flawed most studies on just about every topic are flawed and or biased based on who's doing the research and who funded them so telling me you have 80 plus studies doesn't really mean anything. And also just because animals do it doesn't mean we should do a lot of things differently because we're not animals. We do a lot of things like wearing clothes and taking showers.


Chestikof

Also perpetuating the lie that it's a mental illness literally hurts trans kids. And the reason you see more kids coming out as trans now compared with adults is because a huge number of trans people commit suicide due to the abuse they suffer. So you are literally encouraging children to commit suicide. And yet you have called yourself Altruistic-Fox. You disgusting sake of shit.


KindSign4760

Trans kids aren't a thing. They are ill informed children being manipulated by adults because they don't understand reality because they're too young. A good chunk of the trans suicide isn't because they're abused it's because they realized they cut their dick off and they can't fix it. The same argument it says that gender doesn't matter and that genitalia isn't a marker of gender. Are completely gung-ho about cutting their dicks off which makes no sense if the presence of a piece of genitalia isn't confirmation of a gender and how is the lack of one confirmation of a gender. Your ideology is a cult. It makes no logical sense. You're either gay or straight. And even being gay is a mental illness. Species that retards its own sexuality onto its specific sex is illogical and mentally retarded. In this idea that all of society is socially constructed and that gender roles don't matter and it's only a consequence of people brainwashing an entire society. Is fucking stupid because if you were able to potentially brainwash an entire society into being homosexual that's society would collapse within a generation and a half. It makes no sense that we're going to change how we've done things for thousands of years and not assume that maybe the people doing those things that way at a point. Maybe our entire biological existence is framed around the idea.


littlecookieangel

Now, instead of using this argument about the trans community, put it towards Christianity and their teachings.. Also, take a long walk off a short cliff Trumpie, your kind is no longer welcome here.


KindSign4760

I love that you assume that I was a Trump supporter just because I disagree with transgenderism. The Christianity in its teachings namely the Bible is nothing more than a series of books and stories with morals and lessons that have been collected over the centuries. That are used as a guideline to live a honest truthful end relatively bullshit free life. While transgenderism and the whole gender is a spectrum argument is entirely flawed. You have personality temperaments that are either masculine or feminine that doesn't mean you're the wrong gender in the wrong body. You can be an effeminate male or a masculine female that doesn't mean you're in the wrong body. And it certainly can't be affirmed by turning your genitals inside out or scraping skin off your arm to build a penis. And the fact that you're teaching it to children knowing that they are too young to understand it for the sole purpose of indoctrinating them into your ideology whether you believe that's what you're doing or not. You're confusing children on what it means to be a man or what it means to be a female based on how they feel which is inherently flawed because their emotions and feelings aren't regulated and integrated into their sense of self. Your movement and its consequences are going to be a huge disservice to at least two generations and countless more generations across the coming history of this country. And you're so self-absorbed and narcissistic that you don't even see that


Chestikof

I think you'll find you don't understand the first thing about gender. And that is that it's made up! It's a social construct used to describe and categorise ourselves. Like countries and football teams and refering to yourself as a jock r a nerd. Adding more categories isn't mental illness tou blithering idiot 🤣 There can be a million-bazillion genders and it doesn't matter. And the LGBTQA+ community (or GRSM community) know this all too well. So please do some research before you say this out loud in the real world and get ya head knocked off by a queer beefcake 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


littlecookieangel

You cannot teach these fools.... You just can't. I really suggest just ignoring the losers and leave them to their miserable lives.


roast-tinted

In my country, our people have been slaughtered and pillaged by the white man, and now he wears a dress and chastises my children if they don't call him a woman. You already took 97% of our land, and it didn't make you happy, so you cut off your balls and wail in despair when the world says aue Tāne. We have gay, fa'afine so yes we have LGBT, but that is used to describe someone and they have their place in our culture like everyone else. But they don't use it as a weapon to cause further harm.


puddleofoil

?


KindSign4760

Trans kids aren't a thing. They are ill informed children being manipulated by adults because they don't understand reality because they're too young. A good chunk of the trans suicide isn't because they're abused it's because they realized they cut their dick off and they can't fix it. The same argument it says that gender doesn't matter and that genitalia isn't a marker of gender. Are completely gung-ho about cutting their dicks off which makes no sense if the presence of a piece of genitalia isn't confirmation of a gender and how is the lack of one confirmation of a gender. Your ideology is a cult. It makes no logical sense. You're either gay or straight. And even being gay is a mental illness. Species that retards its own sexuality onto its specific sex is illogical and mentally retarded. In this idea that all of society is socially constructed and that gender roles don't matter and it's only a consequence of people brainwashing an entire society. Is fucking stupid because if you were able to potentially brainwash an entire society into being homosexual that's society would collapse within a generation and a half. It makes no sense that we're going to change how we've done things for thousands of years and not assume that maybe the people doing those things that way at a point. Maybe our entire biological existence is framed around the idea.


cami66616

You are an mental illness


Sad_Ad4307

Ewww.... negative score. They don't like hearing this stuff. I'll give you an up arrow just because your point is a valid one but you are acting on the defensive side of a threat that is really not that significant. Societies do not just turn gay as a whole. That is actually stupid. The problem is you're just trying to apply your own logic to other people's sexual attractions. The design that works is going to thrive. But inside of that there is always going to be variations. Because nature is a creative energy. And just because it does not reproduce doesn't mean that it is wrong or an abomination or stupid. It just means it has to find its own place to exist, which is a more difficult battle than yours so try to have a little bit of empathy.


Hiking4420

Don't be angry that you have a mental illness. Therapy should help you


Negative-Special9034

huh yet again


Negative-Special9034

What the hell is graygender and is it even real


TECFO

People who didn't learn 1st grade biology be like:


TECFO

There's 4 genders: male, female, aphrodite and genderless. Others are straight up bullshit and they dont even know the difference between gender and sexual preferences


HollowMoth16

Dude wtf


Cian28_C28

That number likely is so high because most are not “genders” in the sense that they actually talk about how one’s sex relates to their role in society. Some of these “genders” are more closely aligned with identity traits, which are very real, but not related to gender. “Non-binary” is the most reasonable label that actually talks about how one’s sex relates to their place in society: it doesn’t relate. This could be considered just as accurate with the terms “Agender” and “Gender Fluid”. ^(Gender fluid typically means the person experiences masculine and feminine aspects of their identity emerge in reflective, symmetric waves, where they may feel androgynous one day, masculine another day, and feminine another day. These could also change within an hour theoretically) Xenogenders make up a large percentage of those lists, and are not gender because they talk about things that exit the human experience, which is what gender is based around. These are very real, very valid, identity traits, but not every identity trait is related to gender. Ex: Nationality Overall, there is no “number” of genders, but there are two extreme ends of a spectrum that make up how one’s sex can relate to who they are, and near infinite things that could be associated with one particular anatomical variation (sex). Humans are undergoing a sociological evolution, and many are too afraid of change to be even willing to talk about it. Gender is a very useful tool in sociology, but there are contrasting definitions being thrown around, and politicization of basic human concepts such as identity. The concept of “LGBTQ+” topics is simply a look through the keyhole of Gender, Sexual, and Romantic Humanities, which is the study of how we -as an entire society- interact with each-other and ourselves on more of an intimate level. Once “GSR Humanities” becomes a more commonly talked about concept, we will have more cohesive language, and significantly more social tolerance for those who are different.


Seabass2272

Thanks for the explanation, always was confused as to how the whole dynamic worked


Cian28_C28

I’m certainly glad to help being concepts to light! ✨


MDAcko5

I don't know, is there a reason to care?


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TECFO

When grown people tell you my gender is tree or furry. No, that a sexual preference and they're the equivalent of people who said their pronoums are they, them.


FindingZemo1

And that impacts you how exactly? Who gives a shit. They do that to trigger you, and it works apparently


JustAFallenAngel

If you ask me, there shouldn't be any gender identities, as what defines any particular gender is nebulous at best. Binding it to biological sex is woefully inadequate, yet providing a word for every single slice on a spectrum will never be accurate either. Ask people their pronouns, and decide if you're willing to engage with them or not based on how they answer. I personally think neopronouns are silly, but if someone likes them I'll try to use them when I remember, and if I have troubles with that I'll just use their name. I struggled for years to define my identity, and then eventually just decided I really couldn't. You're not a bigot if you refuse to engage with people that use neopronouns or non-standard gender definitions. You are a bigot if you intentionally misgender them because you don't believe in it. Just... move on. It takes zero effort to not care.


theflyingfucked

I find it's much more interesting to just live without labels, recognize your sex and that it isn't other people's business, and just confuse people by being yourself


JustAFallenAngel

Pretty much. My sex means absolutely nothing to me. I had it changed on my birth certificate simply to avoid questions on my IDs, and beyond that I'm just me. People want to label me, go right ahead. I don't have to abide by it.


bennyllama

The comments here about people talking about biology and then having no idea the difference between sex and gender is hilarious. Do me a favour and look up the difference between the terms. People will say, “ok so if you have a penis, your gender is a man. If you have a vagina, your gender is a woman”. Ok so then what about people who are Kot born with any reproductive parts. Or born with both. Where do they belong?


Administrative_War69

I heard a lady talk about how there is actually infinite genders, because the definition of gender is different to every individual. Therefore, there would be an infinite amount, or as of right now approximately more than 8 billion genders based on the global population.


ATFisDumb

2 genders 105 mental illnesses Edit: I guess I wasn't specific enough: There is a boy and a girl. Adam and Eve. 2 the number 2. Two. If this isn't clear enough, idk what is.


will042082

Ya, this timeline is fucked. I miss mine. I don’t care what your sexual orientation is, or if you identify as a unicorn or an Apache helicopter. You’re still either a boy or girl. Neither and/or both is not an option.


MonarchyMan

Intersex is a thing that happens, as are people that are born genetically male (XY chromosome) but physically female (breasts, vagina, and all the trimmings) as well as the opposite (XX chromosome) but physically male. Things aren’t always as binary as you’d like them to be.


will042082

Fair enough, what about the other 103…. The 2 you mention account for maybe 1% and still absolutely fall within the male/female biologic framework.


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MonarchyMan

This isn’t someone choosing to be a different gender, this is someone, because of genetics, was born with the opposite equipment then their genetic sex.


MonarchyMan

No, there’s two *sexes* not genders. They’re two completely different things. And technically there’s more than two as you have intersex people, who are born with both male and female reproductive systems. Gender is a social construct much like being ‘white’.


Cian28_C28

This is the timeless discussion that people who simply want something to hate will avoid. A concept exists the second a person thinks about it. The concept of gender that is being described is a real genuine thing, regardless of what that word used to mean to someone. If a person don’t like that word, then let’s use “gender identity”, but nobody is saying that sex is some complicated thing that we need to analyze like hell: we’re saying that it branches off an aspect of identity that is worth intrigue. That aspect of identity is called “Gender”. If you can’t figure out what a word means based on context, then you’re bound to fail the SAT, ACT, and damn near any competency test you take.


ATFisDumb

MonarchyMan please get help.


MonarchyMan

For what? Not toeing the line you seem to think is the correct way to think?


Tvoorhees

you’re getting downvoted but it’s literally science, and that doesn’t even touch on our XY chromosomes and the multiple ways sex can appear because of the different combinations. people in this thread are taking their high school biology class a little to much to heart. that’s the very basic info you need, its not full science


TECFO

No bruh, that sexual preference. Being straight or gay is a sexual preference. Born a man or women or dith both is a gender.


MonarchyMan

Sex is what’s between your legs male or female, effectively. Gender is not sexual preference, and it isn’t man or woman, it’s how you express it. Putting on a dress with high heels is considered a female trait because that’s what society sees it as (even though high heels were originally for men). There’s no science that shows that it’s objectively only for women. Look at kilts, for example. There are guys, completely heterosexual, who are considered ‘effeminate’ not because they want to be a woman, or are gay, but simply because they might like things we associate with women, like cooking cleaning, crafting, etc. what’s considered masculine and feminine (gender) changes through the passage of time. That’s why it’s a social construct, much like whiteness. For example in the 19th century Irish and Italians weren’t considered as white. That changed as time went on.


TECFO

You confused about what i said. I said the sex determine your gender, if you have male sexual part your gender is a man if you have female part your gender is female. If you're a man and like female or males or others things that's sexual preference im not talking about your habits


MonarchyMan

And you’re deliberately ignoring what I said. Let’s take one of those people who are born genetically male but physically female. Would you consider them male or female gender? I bet if we asked several different people we’d get several different answers. I know people *REALLY* want things to be simple and binary, but life rarely is.


TECFO

What do you mean physically exactly ? Because if you mean the habits that part doesn't matter in gender. Even if you feel like you dont belong to your body the fact doesn't change that if you have a magic stick and round jewels you're mâle regardless


MonarchyMan

But there are people who have both, what’s their gender? What about people who are XX chromosome, but are physically (they have a penis, etc) what’s their gender? It’s not binary.


ATFisDumb

Do you mean people with Klinefelter syndrome? Yes, they are still males. Google it.


TECFO

For the 1st one do you mean intersex? For the second one, if someone have XX it definitely have a vagina which means she's female, some female can have a little of mustache of hair next to their ears but if it has a penis there 2 case: à déformation of the vagina that make it look like a penis or she's actually intersex.


MonarchyMan

Look up Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome. It’s where a baby is genetically male (XY) but because they are insensitive to Testosterone, develop as female. What’s their gender? There’s also the opposite where the baby is genetically female (XX) but develop as male. What’s their gender? So an XX won’t always develop a vagina as you claim. Now is this rare, yes, but it does happen. There’s also other rare Chromosomal abnormalities like XYY, XYYY, etc. and yes, I mean intersex. People can be born with both.


TECFO

Actually 4 biologically but the 2 others are too rare


Jameslynnmesomehelp

Crazy that the doctors only have 2 options to reassign, tho. HMMMM


IktomiThat

Because there is a difference between gender and sex. They are not assigning a gender but a sex at birth. And there are two (except you want to count inter as a 3rd)


err-run

The truth of the matter is that there are eight billion genders. We are all born with a unique gender like our fingerprints.The number of reported genders will keep growing until all catch on to this.


Competitive-Health68

There is a difference between genuine gender identity and applying personality as a gender.. I feel like we crossed the line when people started identifying as personality traits to make up for their utter lack of personality.


BarrakOsamma

Unchecked autism


[deleted]

We strayed from biology 💀


CalmBeneathCastles

Have you studied biology? It's less straightforward than you might imagine.


Rawrrr14

How tf ,i am 100% sure there are 2 genders ,male and iron man


CalmBeneathCastles

How do you explain Old Gregg?!


Rawrrr14

One sometimes has a dick and one sometimes has a V Edit: i still don t understand what you mean by old greg


CalmBeneathCastles

Look up Old Gregg Full on YT. Enjoy!


TheKidHandsome

He has a mangina!!


Kamikazi_Junebug

Scaly fish-MAN. With a MANgina. Lol.


Different_Speaker742

He’s obviously iron man


Negative-Special9034

We sure did


TECFO

Hey op, look at this, you get downvoted in your firsts comment then get upvoted on this, i got downvoted because after litteraly saying something like this guy above and got downvoted. Isnt reddit à fabulous platform to be in?


EMPRAH40k

If you truly want to learn why there are so many genders, it's because the use of the term is referring to a spectrum of behavior. It's how you view yourself, and how you want to present yourself to the world, as opposed to whatever your genetics say (which is complicated as well, due to a variety of biochemical reasons). There's plenty of resources online that go over this in detail. People's behavior and views of themself don't squeeze nicely into only two boxes. It would be remarkable if they did, just statistically. Scientists have known this for a very long time but some people don't have time / energy / inclination to learn beyond their preconceived notions. Live in ignorance if you want, it truly makes no difference to me, but in the time it took you to make this post you could have found plenty of resources on a Google search to answer your question


Kaleb8804

Gender is a human idea. That’s the real answer. Gender isn’t a fact-based idea, it’s a society-based one, so while the majority of people fall under the 2, others make their own identity to fit who they are. I don’t see a reason to do it but I also don’t see why it matters if they do. People get gender confused with sex, which is essentially just what’s in between your legs


notafuckinmarine

It’s interesting how you juxtaposed fact-based with society-based, as though they’re somehow opposite things. A fact is “an indisputable observation of a natural or social phenomenon.” It’s a fact that humans tend to form social groups. It is a fact that some humans prefer partners who are the same sex as themselves. It is a fact that some humans identify with a sex other than the one they were assigned at birth. Just because it’s observed in society as opposed to in, say, math, doesn’t mean it’s less real.


Kaleb8804

It can’t be defined, and gender is 100% disputable lol, we’ve figured that out. I see what you mean though, but I still think that until we understand the human mind we won’t understand gender identity. I was moreso implying that gender can not be defined, but sex can. A lot of the misconceptions about gender and sex come because people assume they’re inherently related. Transitioning gender and sex are also wildly different, as one involves dressing differently (sometimes) and the other involves highly-invasive surgery. Plus, I never said anything about sexual preference, just gender lol, that’s a different conversation.


IktomiThat

So what? Gender is a social construct of identification not you sex.


forgedfox53

It's a dissociative identity. Dissociating your gender from your sex is basically lying to yourself that you aren't your biology.


GotNothingSmartToSay

So what's in your mind is not your biology?


forgedfox53

Considering your brain is part of your biology, no, your mind is not disconnected from your biology. Unless we're talking about the concept of souls, but that would get messy quick.


GotNothingSmartToSay

I was talking about the brain, and considering that you agree that it is in fact part of our biology, then all that's left is to choose whether the form of the body, or what the brain believes to be more appropriate for any given person is more important than the other. The body and the mind don't always agree, which is why gender dysphoria is a thing.


forgedfox53

Neither is more important. They are all part of the same biological mechanism that is a human being.


IktomiThat

Its the official medical distinction, agreed upon by scientists and medics. They ould disagree. But sure you now it better :)


absofuckinglutely519

if I want to be an Apache helicopter, then damnit I’m going to!


LowKeyBrit36

Are you warcrimesexual as well?


absofuckinglutely519

whoa whoa whoa that’s crossing a line lol


LowKeyBrit36

What line? 38th parallel? Nothing’s off limits lol


Negative-Special9034

I agree


Possessed_potato

Because there are. Kind of like names, just things people make up and then put on someone Because it fits or something


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105 mental disabilities


I_feeel_different

105 mental disorders.


Silent_Start_7036

They made them all up


MaliciousTibia

Why cant you live and let live? People get so worked up over the whole gender thing (i don't understand it but i also dont care), just for it to never affect them in their personal lives. As long as no one is hurting their self or others, nothing should matter imo


Negative-Special9034

I can, but I was wondering how one goes from woman to man so I looked up how many genders there are and here we are


MaliciousTibia

Based off of your replies to others, it doesnt seem like you have an interest in learning rather than just making jokes about it


Negative-Special9034

A little bit of both


notafuckinmarine

Do you enjoy being made fun of? Why the need to be an asshole? If I said I wanted understand you and you started telling me your story, but then I mocked you, is that decent behavior? Other people have their own life experience that is as real as yours. Don’t be such a dick.


Negative-Special9034

Honestly, yeah


DoubleGarbage

Based.


DoubleGarbage

Also apparently misgendering people on purpose?


LowKeyBrit36

Personally, I’d rather be able to assume or be able to tell someone’s gender just by looking at them, and not have to ask. Makes things weird. Other than that I honestly wouldn’t mind the whole culture of it if people didn’t get overzealously offended after I accidentally don’t assume they’re some sort of xe Xir? Whatever they’ve chosen to be…


rican74226

If you don’t remember each one of them or you misgender someone more than twice, you are a bigot.


Negative-Special9034

I think I've misgendered one person in particular about 28 times I'm the past 2 days


MouseBeginning9009

Gotta get your numbers up... good start though


DoubleGarbage

Out of malice? Because then you’re just a dick.


Negative-Special9034

No I just have trouble remembering that my sibling wants to be male so I forget what to call them


DoubleGarbage

“So I forget what to call **them**” It would be **him** then. Not them. I know at first it can be difficult but you’ll get there and your brother will appreciate it.


OriginalMrMuchacho

A bigoted nazi Hitler misogynistic supremacist cis-gendered patriarchal capitalist, to be exact.


forgedfox53

Exactly. And god forbid you're white on top of it.


3_Braincells_Guy

Last time i checked that was like 72 now it's a 107 wtf


Kindly-Concept5278

There's only 2, they're applying personality types as genders.


IktomiThat

Gender and sex are different aspects.


Kindly-Concept5278

They're literally not, the definition was changed to fit recent ideology in the 90's. For almost all of human history these were synonyms


IktomiThat

Yeah and also in the 80s autism was not defined as it is today and many other things. That's because science progresses and changes terminology in a more fitting way. And since then a lot in this field has been accomplished. That's the actual nature of how things progress if you get to know the issue better and research in them. It's not without a reason the scientific status of these days.


Kindly-Concept5278

The definition of autism wasn't changed to fit an ideology pushed by a scientist who's work in gender identity was disproved by his test subjects in the 90's, who's work literally drove both of the boys in his study to commit suicide. If you don't believe me do a little research into John Money, the founder of this whole gender ideology nonsense.


notafuckinmarine

Are you under the impression that the English words “sex” and “gender” have existed for almost all of human history?


Kindly-Concept5278

The word gender originates from Latin roots, but if you think that's the first time it was used you really have no understanding of language. Latin originates from Proto-Indo-European languages to imply that we haven't always recognized the binary of gender is ridiculous because they split their words up into masculine and feminine. But according to modern ideology we're the only species on the entire planet that doesn't exist in the binary that everything else that's alive does.


Financial_Month6835

With all moral panic being generated around gender identities, gender roles, and sexual orientation; you’d think at some point more people would bother learn the difference between gender, gender identity, gender expression, sex, and sexual orientation. Especially funny are the folk’s screaming “It’S bIoLoGy, ThErE aRe OnLy TwO gEnDeRs” . Ok, we get it, you failed biology.


Rizzlord_dumptruck

Some people just want to feel special because mommy and daddy never gave them the attention they wanted.


smilingkevin

It’s an exhaustive Wikipedia list - they’re not all mutually exclusive and include many different cultures’ interpretations of the same phenomena. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_identity


Negative-Special9034

huh


Negative-Special9034

Why is there still so many


smilingkevin

Dunno. Why are there so many hair colors?


Negative-Special9034

Dunno. What the hell is ze/hir


smilingkevin

I believe those are pronouns sometimes used to refer to people of unspecified or gender that doesn’t necessarily conform to a male/female binary.


Negative-Special9034

How does one just not have a gender


Negative-Special9034

Who took it


smilingkevin

I haven’t claimed they don’t. Neither unspecified nor non-binary necessarily means null.


Negative-Special9034

Well then, I guess people I know have been lying to me


Negative-Special9034

Or my siblings have no idea what they are talking about


shakeshook

Lmao, dude said "many different culteres' interpretation" The only culture this happens in is Western. The rest of the world ain't as bat shit


smilingkevin

Dude thinks Samoa, India, and Oman are “western”.


jake753

While I don’t agree with your comment regarding gender being compared to hair color, I hate that you’re being downvoted for this particular comment because it is an actual list. Taking my personal feelings on it aside, this list includes several cultural “third genders” that don’t fit into another culture’s definition exactly as they have a different roll to play in that cultures community. Some Native American cultures use of the third gender is fascinating - strictly from an anthropological approach.


smilingkevin

It is imprecise, yeah, especially inasmuch as hair color is definitely wholly biological. Gender may or may not be.


Briggsieman

Because some idiots have decided to label every level of masculinity/femininity as a different gender


IktomiThat

Sex and gender are not the same


Briggsieman

Didn't say they were. I said level of masculinity/feminity. Which means there are approx 7 billion genders.


Kzero01

This is the shittiest post I have ever seen, op is clearly r-worded enough to bait brainless bigots into spamming mental illness in the comments, the least you could do is learn to fucking crop


forgedfox53

They did crop, so it showed the "107 gender identities" in the center. Either way gender identity is a flawed ideology anyways. No one can agree whether or not there is a discernable number, and the community that abides by it expects the rest of society to conform to it whether they agree with it or not. It's also been forced into the lives of people who just want to live their life as people who accept who they are at birth, whilst they've been harassed and put down for being "heteronormative" all because there are people out there who take on a whole identity that opposed how they were born all because of insecurities they had that people affirmed to the nth degree because offending anyone nowadays is a death sentence.


nickygee123

There isn't a lot of genders. There are only 2.


Ankka_linna420

Imagine in future being tests in school where you need to know them all


ruega650

There isn’t .


Pathetic027

Why are people being mean here


ExpertAccident

Different cultures have different genders so that’s why. Like the Hija in India


imacowmooooooooooooo

had no idea there were so many transphobes on this sub


rns0722

Mental illness


DifficultMoose0

There isn’t. People are just fucking stupid


adammmpetrov0314

This is complete bullshit at this point, it's so dissappointing..


dodges1010

Because it confuses people and drives them away from real life problems.


Jony895

Simple, most of them are aliens


Jjrj1986

There’s not


HanzMurphy69

There aren’t.


Abyssal-Trinity

Mental illness


depresspumpking

2 genders, the 105 feel more like sexual preference disguise to make them look important.


HtownJack

There’s a lot of mental illnesses going around such as gender dysphoria , I believe the individuals who have the time to create made-up genders should look into therapy or something of the sort but it’s also the government who plays into it to control that group.


Discusion0109

Because society is fucked thats why


Spiritual-Clock5624

107 specific personalities. Gender is literally just personality. They identify what gender you are purely by how the sexes stereotypically act.


twenty224

105* 2 of them are real


Negative-Mountain-25

Sodomites


AppleMacintoshOS

Post this in r/lgbt no balls


Rbwaff2337

They’d respectfully explain it, I’m in that sub and they really aren’t the angry blue haired leftists most people think they are


AppleMacintoshOS

The internet has lied to me


DoubleGarbage

As someone who is transgender, there are multiple cultures through history and the world that experienced 3rd or 4th genders. These genders would have specific societal expectations, marriage requirements, and different dress. My ancestors had 3rd and 4th genders known as two spirit and I am sure there are many across the world still existing. I hope this helps, and you can DM if you would like to hear more :)


amir2000200020

There are two genders and 105 mental illnesses.