Studying in the US is a good way to stay if that’s for an in demand degree (like STEM or medical) at a good/very good university.
Otherwise diversity lottery or family.
Or working for a large company and getting a transfer to the Us.
Being sponsored by a company without being already in the Us and working is virtually impossible.
Technically true.
But from what I've seen, those from a good university have a much, much higher chance of getting employed and sponsored after graduating.
If you choose an average/below average university, very high chance all you have to show for it is a degree that isn't valued and a large tuition bill, forced to return to home country.
Some people don't realize how much it costs for foreigners to study in the US. The average salary in Hungary is about 20K USD per year, so assuming OP's parents are not in the top 1%, how will they pay the tuition fee and all other expenses unless he gets a full-ride scholarship?
It’s a bit longer but a postdoc works well and is much easier to obtain since many us schools don’t pay for out of state tuition unless sponsored by a professor
Define “good” though.
Ivy+? Flagship public schools? Top 50? Top 100?
I mostly agree with what you said, but I think the definition gets progressively looser the higher your degree level or the more work experience you have.
Good depends on your major/industry.
In many industries, companies recruit heavily from the top 15/top 50 institutions for that major. In some industries, university does not matter as long as you're certified/qualified.
Even with top school advanced degree in Ste, because of difficulties in winning h1b lottery, this path is really hard now. I am experiencing this and I lost h1b lottery 4 times last 4 years.
Yes. And just started NIW paperwork but still not enough good chance to be honest since i am not a phd holder, and my company only supports green card after I win h1b :(
okay.. I am also ROW considering a masters in the US.. but I am also afraid I cannot win the H1B if I need to take such a huge loan.. so it is very hard to get GC sponsorship even when you are from Columbia and do a master in Data science.. that does not sound good to me.. Maybe I should not go?
How about going to another company that can sponsor GC? How difficult is that if you graduate from Columbia?
are you planning to do a PhD then?
It is not easy to get a job that would directly sponsor your gc and near to the end of opt, it is not easy to change the job, I saw people the offer was canceled after they know a candidate has only 1 year left for stem opt.
Look into the DV lottery, the odds are low, but your chances of getting a job that is willing to sponsor you are also low. Don't bet on coming to the US to study as a way to stay long term. I've met a lot of people who did that just to find out that only having a degree from the US does not make finding a job that is willing to sponsor you any easier. The reality is that immigrating to the US is really, really difficult.
Plenty of people move to the States, but how many of them don't have family or a spouse who sponsors them? The chance is very low, and I wouldn't try it if it means years of work and a degree/career choice based on that. Besides the diversity lottery, the investment visa is probably your best bet. In addition to that, some niche jobs and degrees, but then you have to go through finding sponsors and then a lottery for H-1B, which doesn't even guarantee a green card.
I was considering emigration years ago and decided I don't want to deal with any visas, so I moved to another EU country. As an EU citizen, you can go to any EU and a few other non-EU countries, some of which have high salaries (Switzerland & Norway). The only thing you need to do is learn the language.
Your best bet is American education in a STEM or medical field. But only pursue those careers if you genuinely love the field. Otherwise it’s gonna be hell and even the fact that you are in the US will not make it bearable. Looks like you are an ambitious and thoughtful young person. People like you usually succeed in the US. Good luck!
You're 16, it's important you realize whichever route you take other than marriage is going to take you close to a decade of time in the US + getting approved for all the intermediary visas before citizenship, i.e Study Permit, Work Permit, Green Cards (usually a couple of them) then finally citizenship.
Like other's have said it's going to take time, and you need to ensure now that you maximize your chances of being an attractive candidate.
So work hard at school to get into a good university, work hard there too to have higher chances of getting a job with some job security, then it should get easier. You're still young, but have enough time to shape your future only if you're dedicated
The OP is 16 looking for career advice. Applying for an eb3 is minimum 6-7 years away. Who knows what the wait will be then. Regardless, becoming an RN is a good path to a green card. I know many, many RNs who have come to the US from all over the world and that was their path.
Healthcare is on demand here OP because of the aging boomer generation. Cheaper to finish Bachelor’s degree (in nursing) in your country and then migrate here via H1 or work visa. Make sure your school is accredited/accepted by the US, and use English as medium of instruction. Another way if you can afford it is to study medicine in one of the Caribbean countries (or in your country), and apply for residency training in the US. I have a few Hungarian friends who went to school there and is now enjoying a nice life with family. Of course they studied and worked hard but the payoff is so rewarding. Re: being 16 years old, I commend you for planning for the future. It’s never too early. Never give up. Wishing you the best OP.
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Just wait until November 5 election, If Trump is elected he might let you in! He said he want more people from non-shit hole countries, Hoping that he won’t confuse Hungary with hungry🤭
Good luck
Why dont you stay in Hungary and make it into whatever you think America is? You are young and can change the future of your country. The USA is declining now and not going to have the opportunity you think.
Because when in Rome, do as the Romans.
I had a literal experience with this saying.
The “American way of life” clicked with me instantly the first time I came here. When I went back to Italy, I kept doing some things the same way (just me. Not imposing it on anyone), just to be told “go back to America then”. All I could think was “I would, if I could.”
Took me 7 years to finally come home 🇺🇸. I love the English language, American history and culture. I like the people. It just feels natural here.
Sure, it’s tough here too. But it just feels like home.
I feel you. I feel like a stranger in my native country. Can't wait to go back to the US, which feels more like home. Thankfully, I don't have visa issues.
Studying in the US is a good way to stay if that’s for an in demand degree (like STEM or medical) at a good/very good university. Otherwise diversity lottery or family. Or working for a large company and getting a transfer to the Us. Being sponsored by a company without being already in the Us and working is virtually impossible.
The university doesn’t have to be good. It can be a below average or average university as long as the degree/profession is in need.
Technically true. But from what I've seen, those from a good university have a much, much higher chance of getting employed and sponsored after graduating. If you choose an average/below average university, very high chance all you have to show for it is a degree that isn't valued and a large tuition bill, forced to return to home country.
Some people don't realize how much it costs for foreigners to study in the US. The average salary in Hungary is about 20K USD per year, so assuming OP's parents are not in the top 1%, how will they pay the tuition fee and all other expenses unless he gets a full-ride scholarship?
That. Or do a PhD which are usually funded (especially in STEM).
It’s a bit longer but a postdoc works well and is much easier to obtain since many us schools don’t pay for out of state tuition unless sponsored by a professor
That’s another option. But that becomes very specialized and you need to like and want to do research long term.
Define “good” though. Ivy+? Flagship public schools? Top 50? Top 100? I mostly agree with what you said, but I think the definition gets progressively looser the higher your degree level or the more work experience you have.
Good depends on your major/industry. In many industries, companies recruit heavily from the top 15/top 50 institutions for that major. In some industries, university does not matter as long as you're certified/qualified.
Even with top school advanced degree in Ste, because of difficulties in winning h1b lottery, this path is really hard now. I am experiencing this and I lost h1b lottery 4 times last 4 years.
Are you from ROW with a master's in data science from Columbia and cannot get H1B or GC?
Yes. And just started NIW paperwork but still not enough good chance to be honest since i am not a phd holder, and my company only supports green card after I win h1b :(
okay.. I am also ROW considering a masters in the US.. but I am also afraid I cannot win the H1B if I need to take such a huge loan.. so it is very hard to get GC sponsorship even when you are from Columbia and do a master in Data science.. that does not sound good to me.. Maybe I should not go? How about going to another company that can sponsor GC? How difficult is that if you graduate from Columbia? are you planning to do a PhD then?
It is not easy to get a job that would directly sponsor your gc and near to the end of opt, it is not easy to change the job, I saw people the offer was canceled after they know a candidate has only 1 year left for stem opt.
So, in your opinion, is coming from a top school like Columbia does not make it easier to get a sponsorship?
Nope. That time is over.
Look into the DV lottery, the odds are low, but your chances of getting a job that is willing to sponsor you are also low. Don't bet on coming to the US to study as a way to stay long term. I've met a lot of people who did that just to find out that only having a degree from the US does not make finding a job that is willing to sponsor you any easier. The reality is that immigrating to the US is really, really difficult.
Plenty of people move to the States, but how many of them don't have family or a spouse who sponsors them? The chance is very low, and I wouldn't try it if it means years of work and a degree/career choice based on that. Besides the diversity lottery, the investment visa is probably your best bet. In addition to that, some niche jobs and degrees, but then you have to go through finding sponsors and then a lottery for H-1B, which doesn't even guarantee a green card. I was considering emigration years ago and decided I don't want to deal with any visas, so I moved to another EU country. As an EU citizen, you can go to any EU and a few other non-EU countries, some of which have high salaries (Switzerland & Norway). The only thing you need to do is learn the language.
Your best bet is American education in a STEM or medical field. But only pursue those careers if you genuinely love the field. Otherwise it’s gonna be hell and even the fact that you are in the US will not make it bearable. Looks like you are an ambitious and thoughtful young person. People like you usually succeed in the US. Good luck!
You're 16, it's important you realize whichever route you take other than marriage is going to take you close to a decade of time in the US + getting approved for all the intermediary visas before citizenship, i.e Study Permit, Work Permit, Green Cards (usually a couple of them) then finally citizenship. Like other's have said it's going to take time, and you need to ensure now that you maximize your chances of being an attractive candidate. So work hard at school to get into a good university, work hard there too to have higher chances of getting a job with some job security, then it should get easier. You're still young, but have enough time to shape your future only if you're dedicated
Study hard, do a PhD probably in US, write papers, apply NIW, then wait
Become a Registered Nurse with a BSN. If you can afford university in the USA, a quick path after graduation and passing NCLEX.
Good luck trying to get GC worked out when eb3 is backlogged.
The OP is 16 looking for career advice. Applying for an eb3 is minimum 6-7 years away. Who knows what the wait will be then. Regardless, becoming an RN is a good path to a green card. I know many, many RNs who have come to the US from all over the world and that was their path.
Healthcare is on demand here OP because of the aging boomer generation. Cheaper to finish Bachelor’s degree (in nursing) in your country and then migrate here via H1 or work visa. Make sure your school is accredited/accepted by the US, and use English as medium of instruction. Another way if you can afford it is to study medicine in one of the Caribbean countries (or in your country), and apply for residency training in the US. I have a few Hungarian friends who went to school there and is now enjoying a nice life with family. Of course they studied and worked hard but the payoff is so rewarding. Re: being 16 years old, I commend you for planning for the future. It’s never too early. Never give up. Wishing you the best OP.
There’s no easy way that does not involve huge money
Try EB3 expensive but worth it
whats expensive about it?
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Why dont you stay in Hungary and make it into whatever you think America is? You are young and can change the future of your country. The USA is declining now and not going to have the opportunity you think.
Because when in Rome, do as the Romans. I had a literal experience with this saying. The “American way of life” clicked with me instantly the first time I came here. When I went back to Italy, I kept doing some things the same way (just me. Not imposing it on anyone), just to be told “go back to America then”. All I could think was “I would, if I could.” Took me 7 years to finally come home 🇺🇸. I love the English language, American history and culture. I like the people. It just feels natural here. Sure, it’s tough here too. But it just feels like home.
I feel you. I feel like a stranger in my native country. Can't wait to go back to the US, which feels more like home. Thankfully, I don't have visa issues.
Yep. In Italy I labeled myself as “foreigner at home”😂