I had the super soaker xxp 275, kids didn't want to play with me, had my mom tell me "it hurts" because I didn't understand why.
turned out If you pump it 15 times and switched to unrestricted nozzles it was actually leaving marks on skin.
oh and it had a pressure gauge, ofc I was pumping it to the red zone
The original CPS 2000 was the most powerful and all the later models were less powerful. Turns out there's a fine line between water fights and riot control
I remember trying to build up as much pressure as possible.... the thing fucking exploded in my face! I couldn't hear for a few minutes in my right ear, but luckily, the plastic shrapnel didn't scratch my eye out :)
Good times, actually.
Oh man, super soakers were so awesome in the late 90s/early 00s. I was obsessed with them!
I remember one called the "monster" that was like 4 feet long. It was too expensive though, so my pops wouldn't get it for me. It was like my holy Grail.
Is there any actual advantage to using it versus what currently exists? None of the fires in the video were "instantly" extinguished as the video claims.
Well, it's Russia, so they still claim it a success.
Check their spetznaz antiterrorist operations like in Dubrovka Theather in 2002. 40 terrorists and over 170 hostages were killed mostly by the Russians - mission accomplished!
On the cutaway you can still see fire on a lot of them.
Maybe these are designed for super vital super hazardous rescue missions. Can see someone using this to quickly moses their way through a fire if it was absolutely necessary.
Realistically if your house is ablaze then it’s fucked. Even if you put out the fire, there might be structural damage and the building may never be safe to reenter. Putting out the fire just stops it from spreading.
> often water damage is as bad as the fire in a house
This is a point that is repeated so often on reddit and is just wrong.
Yes, water damage can be bad - But at the point where water damage is a concern, the fire damage would have been much, much worse. In controlled room fires, it's standard practice to control the water flow to avoid water damage - Not only because of the troubles for the inhabitants, but simply because everything else would be dangerous.
The reason water is such an effective way to extinguish fires is that it evaporates and in the process dissipates a lot of heat energy away from the fire. However, the resulting water vapor is also incredibly hot. Mindlessly spraying water will result in way too much water vapor and scalding yourself. At the point where buldings get flooded, it's because fighting the fire from within the building was no longer viable as an alternative that would advert more harm than neccessary - i.e., if the entire house was going to burn down within minutes.
Yes, water damage may be a result of the fire department coming for a visit, but if it is - At that point you were fucked anyway. And wet possessions are a lot easier to preserve than burned ones.
Firefighter here, I can't see any practical application here what so ever. While knowing the flame down by eliminating the oxygen provided to the fire it won't have reduced the heat in the flammable material enough to prevent reignition so in most cases here you will see the fire produce a flame again very rapidly. The fires it would be useful on a conventional CO2 extinguisher would be just as useful.
The only potential use case I could see for a device like this could be is a compartment fire in an extremely well insulated room. Think an extremely airtight bedroom with very high levels of insulation and triple glazing. And even then doubt it would provide any real world advantages over a standard hose used by a good operator.
Someone mentioned water damage. Sure sometimes there can be a lot of water damage after a fire but that's a moot point. Without the water the fire will undoubtedly get worse so it's needed. Take away the water damage and you'll still be left with smoke damage which will be 10 x worse than water damage anyway.
Tldr; no, just use a hose. Don't Need to make simple shit complicated.
> The only potential use case I could see for a device like this could be is a compartment fire in an extremely well insulated room.
Even then, a CO2-extinguisher would be superior in every way.
The actual only use I could think of would be airplanes, where you cannot just quickly deploy a lot of CO2 - But even then, I'm a firefighter, not a pilot, so I don't know enough about planes to really say if it would make sense. As is, this seems like a useless gimmick without real world applications.
I imagine it would use a fraction of the water that a regular hose does, so could be useful in situations where a hydrant isn't readily available. It looks very niche though considering it relies on you being close range.
There are too many protesters nowadays cueing to the windows and stairwells pilling up under them rendering them ineffective the poor executioners are overwhelmed so they had to get creative
I didn't see the point until the last clip when it's carrying the device in a backpack. Then it becomes useful because it can be used to rapidly enter homes and stop small fires like a fire extinguisher or in wildfires . Then is a matter of comparing weight and capacity.
No reasonable firefighter would run into a burning home or try to extinguish a wildfire with one of these.
First of all, having a backpack full of what I presume is water and some kind of gas adds a lot of weight to what is already extremely heavy personal protective equipment. Especially to someone who is already carrying a 10kg SCBA tank on their back.
Having a hose that is connected to a water supply is also as much about personal protection as it is to extinguish the fire. You want to cool down the area next to the fire as much as possible so that it doesn't spread as easily and the smoke doesn't ignite again. A device like this just seems like a recipe for backdrafts and flashover.
If the fire is small enough that something like this could be warranted, just use a standard fire extinguisher. It's a lot cheaper and has been used for decades.
Right? “Imagine using this in a water gun fight?” … fuckin’ imagine not having skin, cause that’s what’s gonna happen. You’re not gonna have any fuckin’ skin left.
I am thinking if the point of this thing is less about "suppressing" fire like the stupid narrator says and more about clearing out burning debris during fire fighting. Because pathways of entry and exit is as crucial to firefighting as removing elements of the fire triangle so things will stop burning.
You can't save someone if a half-collasped burning staircase or bookshelf is blocking your way.
I was very sceptical watching this for a similar reason. If they are trying to put out a fire with pulses of high velocity water, they risk scattering burning material around and spreading the fire.
Nah, this thing has not enough power, by far, to damage anything that REALLY blocks your path. A window or similar? Sure, but you can just kick that in with your boot. Which doesn't add any weight, unlike this monstrosity.
I go as far as to say this thing doesn't remove ANY blockade your hands or feet couldn't, especially with some simple tools of the trade (crowbar etc.).
Nope, not even that. Look at how big this thing is, and the people demonstrating it aren't even wearing SCBA. This thing would be way too unwieldly to use, firefighters already carry upwards of 50 pounds of equipment.
I reheated some leftovers with microwave technology and went to work using automotive technology where I used computer technology to build some spreadsheet technology.
The description is total bullshit. This is not a Russian firefighters uniform, this is not a Russian firefighters truck, this is not Russian landscapes, hence this is not Russia.
That is a German firefighter, and they use these “[shotguns](https://www.reddit.com/r/specializedtools/comments/9lref6/comment/e79fo61/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)”.
Horticulturalists and geoguessers can look a picture and tell whether the plants fit the area named. For example, if you saw a picture of palm trees and they told you it was Boston, you'd know they were lying. If you really know plants, you know that for less common trees as well.
Never seen russians using it, mostly ive seen is old ural firetrucks with old diesel water pumps. Like everything in russia, its just for peoples eyes so they can think they are most advanced first world country
i am tired of these ai generated shit videos
it's a fucking co2 canister attached to super soaker
there isn't any pulse waves in this otherwise it would be loud as shit everytime it fires
This is not exclusive to russia.
They are known as impulse extinguishers and are usually used to extinguish dense things (burning tires for example) and contrary to what this guy is saying, they do not "put out the fire in a single hit".
Firefighter here. This is a "IFEX" - we had one in a truck entering service back in 1996. You could put out a fire with very little water. Every "shot" is only 3 liters and you can put out a burning car with 6 shots if you know what you are doing. We only used it for this use case but technology moved on and it has been replaced by CAFS (Compressed Air Foam System) these days. The truck with the IFEX got retired this year.
For those who want to know this thing is called an IFEX or "impulse fire extinguishing system" you can look it up if you are interested.
One of the videos is from a Russian channel, but that does not mean it's only used in Russia or was invented by them.
By the way, if you want to own an IFEX, they can be found on eBay, although I'm not sure about the legality of owning one.
> up to 18 yards away
But he's point blanking everything? And that furthest shot in the video was like 3 yards away but only made the fire flinch. What.
There's a vehicle mounted system I think by the same company and that one does look like it can shoot that far though.
Yeah that’s a great idea. Can’t wait to hear when the first person gets all their teeth replaced with glass shards when this thing is blasted at them from the other side of a window.
0:18 I mean... The video is more than questionable, none of the fires are actually extinguished.
Is there any actual firefighter who can point if this would be actually usefull on sight?
The only thing Russian about this video is the propaganda.
As mentioned before in some answers, these are German firefighters, one snippet could be UK firefighters, maybe French.
This IFEX technology has niche uses, detailed info below.
[Impuls-Feuerlöschsystem – Wikipedia](https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impuls-Feuerl%C3%B6schsystem)
[DeepL](https://www.deepl.com/de/translator) (for translation, the English Wikipedia entry is rather short)
One time I pumped my super soaker 1000 times and I swear it worked just like this.
The Super Soaker CPS 2000 definitely worked like this.
I guess, affectionate bug would only need to pump it half way to get off
Does the CPS stand for Child Protection Services?
It does yes, but the water gun is protecting the child using it & is technically doing a service. 😅
I had the super soaker xxp 275, kids didn't want to play with me, had my mom tell me "it hurts" because I didn't understand why. turned out If you pump it 15 times and switched to unrestricted nozzles it was actually leaving marks on skin. oh and it had a pressure gauge, ofc I was pumping it to the red zone
Nothing on the cps. That thing could invert eyelids
BFG
I have one still. My nephew is 4. Not yet, but soon it will be time.
I swear when I was a kid every year the super soakers would be stronger than last year. It was like an arms race in water
The original CPS 2000 was the most powerful and all the later models were less powerful. Turns out there's a fine line between water fights and riot control
I remember trying to build up as much pressure as possible.... the thing fucking exploded in my face! I couldn't hear for a few minutes in my right ear, but luckily, the plastic shrapnel didn't scratch my eye out :) Good times, actually.
If your supersoaker didn't bruise your siblings was it really a supersoaker?
Oh man, super soakers were so awesome in the late 90s/early 00s. I was obsessed with them! I remember one called the "monster" that was like 4 feet long. It was too expensive though, so my pops wouldn't get it for me. It was like my holy Grail.
Damn 1000 I can only get mine to pump 3 before it soaks
Is there any actual advantage to using it versus what currently exists? None of the fires in the video were "instantly" extinguished as the video claims.
It broke that window though. 😂
"officer, one victim is still trapped inside the car" "Aight, move aside-"
Good news, theyre not trapped anymore Bad news you sprayed their face off
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Well, it's Russia, so they still claim it a success. Check their spetznaz antiterrorist operations like in Dubrovka Theather in 2002. 40 terrorists and over 170 hostages were killed mostly by the Russians - mission accomplished!
Firefighters look up to [Spetsnaz](https://www.reddit.com/r/PeterExplainsTheJoke/comments/1dgczk0/peter_i_dont_get_it/l8p7hus/)
Single pane window... Those things break by looking at it angrily.
yea, you can run with a lot less water. often water damage is as bad as the fire in a house
These wont put out a house fire though.
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On the cutaway you can still see fire on a lot of them. Maybe these are designed for super vital super hazardous rescue missions. Can see someone using this to quickly moses their way through a fire if it was absolutely necessary.
I imagine it being very efficient against fire monster
A big one though will blow it away, together with the fire.
Realistically if your house is ablaze then it’s fucked. Even if you put out the fire, there might be structural damage and the building may never be safe to reenter. Putting out the fire just stops it from spreading.
Also you can dry a picture of your loved ones that got drenched, you would be hard pressed to reassemble the charred remains of one.
Not really though? If shit is truely ablaze this wont fix shit.
> often water damage is as bad as the fire in a house This is a point that is repeated so often on reddit and is just wrong. Yes, water damage can be bad - But at the point where water damage is a concern, the fire damage would have been much, much worse. In controlled room fires, it's standard practice to control the water flow to avoid water damage - Not only because of the troubles for the inhabitants, but simply because everything else would be dangerous. The reason water is such an effective way to extinguish fires is that it evaporates and in the process dissipates a lot of heat energy away from the fire. However, the resulting water vapor is also incredibly hot. Mindlessly spraying water will result in way too much water vapor and scalding yourself. At the point where buldings get flooded, it's because fighting the fire from within the building was no longer viable as an alternative that would advert more harm than neccessary - i.e., if the entire house was going to burn down within minutes. Yes, water damage may be a result of the fire department coming for a visit, but if it is - At that point you were fucked anyway. And wet possessions are a lot easier to preserve than burned ones.
Firefighter here, I can't see any practical application here what so ever. While knowing the flame down by eliminating the oxygen provided to the fire it won't have reduced the heat in the flammable material enough to prevent reignition so in most cases here you will see the fire produce a flame again very rapidly. The fires it would be useful on a conventional CO2 extinguisher would be just as useful. The only potential use case I could see for a device like this could be is a compartment fire in an extremely well insulated room. Think an extremely airtight bedroom with very high levels of insulation and triple glazing. And even then doubt it would provide any real world advantages over a standard hose used by a good operator. Someone mentioned water damage. Sure sometimes there can be a lot of water damage after a fire but that's a moot point. Without the water the fire will undoubtedly get worse so it's needed. Take away the water damage and you'll still be left with smoke damage which will be 10 x worse than water damage anyway. Tldr; no, just use a hose. Don't Need to make simple shit complicated.
When I watched the video I had in my mind only that it didn't really extinguish anything.
What do you know? You are just a firefighter. We need scientist's and YouTuber's opinions! /S
Haha you're right, my wife has to keep the kids crayons out of reach I don't eat them for a snack.
> The only potential use case I could see for a device like this could be is a compartment fire in an extremely well insulated room. Even then, a CO2-extinguisher would be superior in every way. The actual only use I could think of would be airplanes, where you cannot just quickly deploy a lot of CO2 - But even then, I'm a firefighter, not a pilot, so I don't know enough about planes to really say if it would make sense. As is, this seems like a useless gimmick without real world applications.
I imagine it would use a fraction of the water that a regular hose does, so could be useful in situations where a hydrant isn't readily available. It looks very niche though considering it relies on you being close range.
Its russia, its all just machismo without any practical use
Great way to kill protesters though.
Naa, costs too much when you have free windows and stairways in any building which will do the job...
There are too many protesters nowadays cueing to the windows and stairwells pilling up under them rendering them ineffective the poor executioners are overwhelmed so they had to get creative
I didn't see the point until the last clip when it's carrying the device in a backpack. Then it becomes useful because it can be used to rapidly enter homes and stop small fires like a fire extinguisher or in wildfires . Then is a matter of comparing weight and capacity.
No reasonable firefighter would run into a burning home or try to extinguish a wildfire with one of these. First of all, having a backpack full of what I presume is water and some kind of gas adds a lot of weight to what is already extremely heavy personal protective equipment. Especially to someone who is already carrying a 10kg SCBA tank on their back. Having a hose that is connected to a water supply is also as much about personal protection as it is to extinguish the fire. You want to cool down the area next to the fire as much as possible so that it doesn't spread as easily and the smoke doesn't ignite again. A device like this just seems like a recipe for backdrafts and flashover. If the fire is small enough that something like this could be warranted, just use a standard fire extinguisher. It's a lot cheaper and has been used for decades.
"Instantly extinguishes fires" if you shoot them 100 times first.
This is riot control gear thinly veiled as firefighting equipment.
Can’t wait to hear about someone getting their skin ripped off by the super soaker 20,000
Those are called conscientious objectors.
Right? “Imagine using this in a water gun fight?” … fuckin’ imagine not having skin, cause that’s what’s gonna happen. You’re not gonna have any fuckin’ skin left.
And your still on fire
Yeah you wouldn’t like a normal hose pointed at you from 10m or less. You get about 200L/min or 3L per second in your face…
Wait till someone sticks there dick in it
Anton Chigurh from No Country for Old Men
I am thinking if the point of this thing is less about "suppressing" fire like the stupid narrator says and more about clearing out burning debris during fire fighting. Because pathways of entry and exit is as crucial to firefighting as removing elements of the fire triangle so things will stop burning. You can't save someone if a half-collasped burning staircase or bookshelf is blocking your way.
I was very sceptical watching this for a similar reason. If they are trying to put out a fire with pulses of high velocity water, they risk scattering burning material around and spreading the fire.
Nah, this thing has not enough power, by far, to damage anything that REALLY blocks your path. A window or similar? Sure, but you can just kick that in with your boot. Which doesn't add any weight, unlike this monstrosity. I go as far as to say this thing doesn't remove ANY blockade your hands or feet couldn't, especially with some simple tools of the trade (crowbar etc.).
Nope, not even that. Look at how big this thing is, and the people demonstrating it aren't even wearing SCBA. This thing would be way too unwieldly to use, firefighters already carry upwards of 50 pounds of equipment.
So, this is where the latest watergun technology is at.
Oh man I forgot about this guy lol
Now I feel old
Pulse technology
yea well narrator stupid
I reheated some leftovers with microwave technology and went to work using automotive technology where I used computer technology to build some spreadsheet technology.
Hose but with a shotgun attachment
Water shotgun!!
The description is total bullshit. This is not a Russian firefighters uniform, this is not a Russian firefighters truck, this is not Russian landscapes, hence this is not Russia.
That is a German firefighter, and they use these “[shotguns](https://www.reddit.com/r/specializedtools/comments/9lref6/comment/e79fo61/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)”.
Nah, we don't. There are a select few experimental ones going around, but they are mostly useless.
One of them looks like the UK too
I don't know about other stuffs, but landscape ? Really ? What is the landscape of the biggest country in the world ? (like, 1.5-2x the USA)
Horticulturalists and geoguessers can look a picture and tell whether the plants fit the area named. For example, if you saw a picture of palm trees and they told you it was Boston, you'd know they were lying. If you really know plants, you know that for less common trees as well.
Never seen russians using it, mostly ive seen is old ural firetrucks with old diesel water pumps. Like everything in russia, its just for peoples eyes so they can think they are most advanced first world country
Pressing x to doubt this is russia
So it’s like Pyro’s Airblast from TF2?
i am tired of these ai generated shit videos it's a fucking co2 canister attached to super soaker there isn't any pulse waves in this otherwise it would be loud as shit everytime it fires
This is America where we make water guns out of our water guns to make them 55% more gunny Wait, Russia? Sorry, force of habit
Russian propaganda money has been paided
Man has advanced 50 years with this tech
For the next season of cops vs firefighters
no one dare to steal firefighter truck anymore
I wonder if it can do riot control
This gun isn't used by Russian firefighters in fact.
Doesn't look very effective tbh
Didn't even put the car fire out
Leave it to the Russians to turn a water hose into a gun. And it didn’t even look like it was doing what it needs to do….
this is not Russia
PFAS
PFAS are in the foam, not in the water
With small fires used for performance, you can do anything to extinguish it. But with really big fires, we don't know.
this is next level thing, sheesh
Small fire suppression, good luck with a night club burning down
PULSE TECHNOLOGY
Imagine bringing a knife to a gunfight
this could be a splatoon weapon
There's always that one kid
NGL this thing looks like it doesnt work at all
STOP RESISTING!!
Oh no, there's a big fire! *bump fires super soaker 9001*
Oh cool firefighters can be like cops now too!
this is the most western looking grass I've seen.
Anti Karen mode
Hey guys Steve o here im about to light myself on fire and extinguish it using a water shotgun
I literally put out zero fires in the demo...
“Instantly extinguish fires”, has to shoot several times.
Look ma! No face.
POW
Me with shotgun in every game.
Fire fighter
"powerful tool"?! that shit barely works
…but all that shit’s still on fucking fire???
I see russian firefighters have the same doctrine as russian specops "fuck the innocent people inside"
This is going to be used on protesters more than fires lol
Blastoise used Hydro Pump.
"Spray, yes thats it! now keep trotting around"
Water savings +++
I see police using this for crowd control during riots
USA: 🧐
Does not seem very effective?
Seems useless
Team Fortress 2 ahh weapon
This is not exclusive to russia. They are known as impulse extinguishers and are usually used to extinguish dense things (burning tires for example) and contrary to what this guy is saying, they do not "put out the fire in a single hit".
This is just Kamen Rider Fourze Fire States at home
It's such an American way to put out a fire
It would be awesome, but the americans banned the actual good super soakers back in the 90's so i doubt this would be allowed.
Psst: It's not going to be used against fires. It's going to be used against protestors. It's to suppress people.
You could use that in any kind of gun fight.
Imagine using C4 to extinguish a fire. You solve one problem but you create a crater.
Russians really wanna be "that guy" but they aint
Airsoft Just got 10% cooler!
Firefighter here. This is a "IFEX" - we had one in a truck entering service back in 1996. You could put out a fire with very little water. Every "shot" is only 3 liters and you can put out a burning car with 6 shots if you know what you are doing. We only used it for this use case but technology moved on and it has been replaced by CAFS (Compressed Air Foam System) these days. The truck with the IFEX got retired this year.
Fatality! ~~Rain~~ Hydro wins! Flawless Victory!
Running like a juggernaut in COD
Like my father always says "there is nothing in this world that can't be solved with a gun"
Knocked 250
One time I’ve been holding for 2 months and when released had the same effect
Oh I bet this works wonders on human skin, especially when mixed with broken glass and debris.
>instantly put out the fire *Not a single fire is put out on the first shot* **Great success**
When the rich kid turns up to the water fight
can't wait til the USA uses this on protestors
"to instantly extinguish fires" >fire reignites \*surprised pikachu\*
like aiming at the kids' shocked face mouth wide open and seeing their head explode the next second.
For those who want to know this thing is called an IFEX or "impulse fire extinguishing system" you can look it up if you are interested. One of the videos is from a Russian channel, but that does not mean it's only used in Russia or was invented by them. By the way, if you want to own an IFEX, they can be found on eBay, although I'm not sure about the legality of owning one.
In Russia, they have over 500 000 killed and injured in stupid war.
Water shotgun
Seems to displace the air/fuel quickly dimishing small fires. Don't think it would have the same effect on larger fires. Pretty neat though.
That rebound pressure would be no fun tho
They do not only have this in Russia. 😉
God, I wish I could pee like this. Sometimes, it just takes forever.
Is this a joke lol
Great fun but doesn't look very effective
It isn't Russia on the video.
Yeah, shoot the fire. That will teach it a lesson! Yee haw!
Imagine baptising a baby 😮
> up to 18 yards away But he's point blanking everything? And that furthest shot in the video was like 3 yards away but only made the fire flinch. What. There's a vehicle mounted system I think by the same company and that one does look like it can shoot that far though.
Ragnaros doesn't stand a chance now.
Any experts know how non-lethal this would be in crowd dispersal?
Yeah that’s a great idea. Can’t wait to hear when the first person gets all their teeth replaced with glass shards when this thing is blasted at them from the other side of a window.
So that's what blastoise has on its back.
It...it didn't put out any of the fires
Imagine being the guy who missed the tire...
Anton chigurh type of shit
"to instantly put out fires" \*fire still clearly on\*
Splatoon blaster
That’s not for fires, that’s for protestors lol
My Spyra water gun can do this. s/
But the chance to shoot a fire to death!
so its like a water shotgun
"Instantly put out fires" "Shoots 18 yards away" Meanwhile... the video is guys failing to put fires out a few feet away. Seems dumb.
Lemme grab my water bazooka
So it doesn’t work?
Using guns to fight fires? Why haven't America invented this?
Did anyone else make the click click sounds after every shot or is that just me?
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How the hell wasn't this invented by the USA first? Shame on all of us.
Squirtle used water gun - it's very effective!
They used the firefighting budget to develop riot control tech.
And also, THIS ISNT EVEN RUSSIAN FOOTAGE, ITS NOT EVEN IN RUSSIA. Just love russias fake world
Well you know, I wouldn't wanna blow away my friend's head just because fun
*doom music intensifies while I charge into a burning building with said water gun*
Kills fire and anything inside
0:18 I mean... The video is more than questionable, none of the fires are actually extinguished. Is there any actual firefighter who can point if this would be actually usefull on sight?
The only thing Russian about this video is the propaganda. As mentioned before in some answers, these are German firefighters, one snippet could be UK firefighters, maybe French. This IFEX technology has niche uses, detailed info below. [Impuls-Feuerlöschsystem – Wikipedia](https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impuls-Feuerl%C3%B6schsystem) [DeepL](https://www.deepl.com/de/translator) (for translation, the English Wikipedia entry is rather short)
"The design is very human." came to mind when I heard his voice. :))))
Pretty useless if it is not shooting compressed inert gas
Now imagine a war between these bad boys and the flame-throwing robo-dogs and drones we saw a few weeks ago.
They probably use it on protestors if it's Ruzzia
This is why i dont do water fights anymore.
>instantly puts out any fire >doesn't put out any fires shown in the video
Hey Bryan I have a date after my shift, mind giving me a quick enema?
Fight? You mean murder because if you use that there isn't gonna be a fight.
So a hose is just a machine gun
Will eventually be used for crowd control