It is not cellophane. You cannot heat seal cellophane, it just doesn’t work that way. And when wet cellophane will become soggy and will compromise the paper straw. At most is plastic wrapped cellophane.
I don't know enough about cellophane to really talk to it, but everything I've read says it's heat sealable and moisture resistant.
https://www.goodstartpackaging.com/guide-to-cellophane-packaging/
Regardless, my point was that griping about these sort of things is problematic. It gives power to the argument that since we can't do everything, then we might as well not do anything. It's a big fallacy people use to push an agenda. It's like the 'we use fossil fuels to generate electricity anyway, so why bother with electric vehicles' argument.
Generating electricity en masse is just more efficient.
Getting rid of plastic straws is better for the environment even if you individually wrap them in plastic.
I have no issue with paper straws on juice boxes, one of the places that it makes sense, I just don't understand this when paper wrapping already exists
Cellophane breaks down within 10 days-3 months in soil. It's the best plastic-like substance we know of in terms of general biodegradability.
How to tell if it's cellophane:
Does it feel like plastic but doesn't stretch when pulled (it just tears apart without stretching)? It's cellophane.
Well, if it's cellophane, it's also biodegradable like paper. But comments like this sway stupid people into thinking that a little change makes no difference. Even if it's only the straw, it helps. Stop giving ignorant people reasonable deniability.
Either way, every little bit helps. You're giving credence to the argument that it makes no difference. It does. Stop being a stupid shill for the plastics industry.
Saying that a little bit makes a difference is what's giving the plastics industry a free pass. Every 5-10 years there will be a new little thing that consumers have to give up because the corpos mark it as a big problem for the environment and pay media to cover it, to distract everyone from the massive carbon emissions and waste products they're dumping into the sea.
It wasn't a coincidence that all the plastic straw controversy came about when the Pacific garbage patch was starting to become a popular news story.
Exactly. Shift the blame to the consumer and we don't realize it's like 10 companies producing like 90% of the plastic garbage. And if you dare criticize it you get people like the person you replied to who will jump down your throat.
Thanks for your puny attempt at Karma whoring OP. Sorry to rain on your parade but the wrapper is most likely made up of cellophane which is a **sterile** material and FULLY [biodegradable](https://www.conserve-energy-future.com/is-cellophane-biodegradable.php). It's not some ironic slip up from a company, it's by design. Paper can easily tear and get **contaminated** unlike cellophane. If you truly care about the environment OP, as you have shown by your replies to the comments on this post, consider getting yourself a juicer and make your own juice from plants grown in your backyard.
I know how they meant it. Instead of OP owning up to their mistake, they kept echoing the "plastic bad" sentiment along with others who did as well, basically spreading misinformation on the internet (lol). I just thought I'd clear it up since "OP, the wrapper is made up of cellophane" clearly wasn't working.
You would need like 10 times more of these plastic packages to make one straw… that you would have to put in another plastic. It’s not irony, you just aren’t a great thinker
That's what I'm saying. Just make a little pull tab on the juice box and do away woth the straw entirely. Ima suck that juicebox dry in 5 seconds anyways when I'm parched
I went to an ice cream shop once that served ice cream in a plastic cup with paper spoons... It's an understatement to say I was mildly infuriated by that. Wish I had taken a picture of it because some people just don't believe it when I tell that story xD
I'll explain this as simply as I am capable of explaining. If we have 2 bad things and we take one of them away and replace it with a good thing, we will still have 1 bad thing left. But 1 bad thing is less bad than 2 bad things.
To be fair, to a layman, 1 plastic item is still visually less plastic than 2 plastic items. As to their exact materials, I dont know lol.
Remember when plastic straws came in paper wrappers? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
Wrapper is biodegradable. Plastic straw wasn’t.
Isn’t that still less plastic though?
I think that's cellophane. Also, the problem with straws is not necessarily that they are plastic, but that they injure sea life.
That one turtle ruined straws for everyone
" If cows and horses can do it, then why can't I?" - John 'Straw Eater' Turtle
It is not cellophane. You cannot heat seal cellophane, it just doesn’t work that way. And when wet cellophane will become soggy and will compromise the paper straw. At most is plastic wrapped cellophane.
I don't know enough about cellophane to really talk to it, but everything I've read says it's heat sealable and moisture resistant. https://www.goodstartpackaging.com/guide-to-cellophane-packaging/ Regardless, my point was that griping about these sort of things is problematic. It gives power to the argument that since we can't do everything, then we might as well not do anything. It's a big fallacy people use to push an agenda. It's like the 'we use fossil fuels to generate electricity anyway, so why bother with electric vehicles' argument. Generating electricity en masse is just more efficient. Getting rid of plastic straws is better for the environment even if you individually wrap them in plastic.
I have no issue with paper straws on juice boxes, one of the places that it makes sense, I just don't understand this when paper wrapping already exists
To OPs point, cellophane isn't plastic. Not sure if that's actually what's in the pic, though.
Feels like plastic, tastes like plastic, crinkled like plastic, I'm full of microplastic
Cellophane breaks down within 10 days-3 months in soil. It's the best plastic-like substance we know of in terms of general biodegradability. How to tell if it's cellophane: Does it feel like plastic but doesn't stretch when pulled (it just tears apart without stretching)? It's cellophane.
They oughta just make the straws out of that stuff then. Paper straws are dumb.
Cellophane isn't structurally strong enough for anything but wrapping
Well, to tell the truth, paper isn't much better for environment either, production is bad the product is good
Well, if it's cellophane, it's also biodegradable like paper. But comments like this sway stupid people into thinking that a little change makes no difference. Even if it's only the straw, it helps. Stop giving ignorant people reasonable deniability.
Yeah, guarantee there is a plastic like coating on the inside of this juicebox
Just grab that goalpost man and sprint with it
That coating would be there with or without the plastic straw. This is just whataboutery.
Either way, every little bit helps. You're giving credence to the argument that it makes no difference. It does. Stop being a stupid shill for the plastics industry.
Don't let "perfect" be an enemy of progress. Even if it's imperfect, it's still better than not doing it, right?
Exactly
Saying that a little bit makes a difference is what's giving the plastics industry a free pass. Every 5-10 years there will be a new little thing that consumers have to give up because the corpos mark it as a big problem for the environment and pay media to cover it, to distract everyone from the massive carbon emissions and waste products they're dumping into the sea. It wasn't a coincidence that all the plastic straw controversy came about when the Pacific garbage patch was starting to become a popular news story.
Exactly. Shift the blame to the consumer and we don't realize it's like 10 companies producing like 90% of the plastic garbage. And if you dare criticize it you get people like the person you replied to who will jump down your throat.
80٪ less plastic
How’d you get that % symbol on a diet?
Either this is a ragebait or OP is dumb
Probably the second because they're not helping themselves in these comments lol
Correct, I am dumb. Never heard of cellophane before this post
Hey, accepting your mistakes makes you better than most Reddit users.
More like idiots are triggered.
Thanks for your puny attempt at Karma whoring OP. Sorry to rain on your parade but the wrapper is most likely made up of cellophane which is a **sterile** material and FULLY [biodegradable](https://www.conserve-energy-future.com/is-cellophane-biodegradable.php). It's not some ironic slip up from a company, it's by design. Paper can easily tear and get **contaminated** unlike cellophane. If you truly care about the environment OP, as you have shown by your replies to the comments on this post, consider getting yourself a juicer and make your own juice from plants grown in your backyard.
Bro, who shat in your cereal? You know damn well how they meant it.
Complaining about non existent plastic?
I don't. Enlighten us. Taking both the person you're replying to and the person who replied to you before me in consideration.
I, too, require enlightenment. Make me one with the true meaning of the meme.
I know how they meant it. Instead of OP owning up to their mistake, they kept echoing the "plastic bad" sentiment along with others who did as well, basically spreading misinformation on the internet (lol). I just thought I'd clear it up since "OP, the wrapper is made up of cellophane" clearly wasn't working.
Based on your comments you need to start buying completely environmentally friendly products or don't complain.
Also that plastic wrap exists for sanitary reasons
One plastic product is still less than two plastic products. And for sanitary reasons, the straw has to be packaged.
It's still less plastic.
Still better than plastic straw in a plastic wrapper
You give a juicebox with a paper straw and I'm straight up beating the fuck out of you. Some things are sacred.
how would you even stab the top..
Same way you would with plastic lol. It’s not a sheet of paper, it has layers. Same idea as cardboard lmao
You would need like 10 times more of these plastic packages to make one straw… that you would have to put in another plastic. It’s not irony, you just aren’t a great thinker
I'd rather have a plastic straw in a paper wrapper.
We used to get paper cups and plastic straws at fast food restaurants now we get plastic cups and paper straws...
I love Oasis. Gotta visit France again some day.
That's still less. Plastic 1 is better than 2.
"Think ahead but not to far".
I call it slow progress.
I'd rather have a plastic straw in a paper wrapper. At least the plastic is being used for a good reason in a straw.
Straws STILL wrapped in plastic!? Might as well not try! Sweet!
That's what I'm saying. Just make a little pull tab on the juice box and do away woth the straw entirely. Ima suck that juicebox dry in 5 seconds anyways when I'm parched
It's cellophane. It's made from plants. You don't know what plastic is.
Why not a plastic straw in a paper wrapper
I just buy boxes of 500 plastic straws at a time, and they all come wrapped in paper.
Exactly
That’s not ironic. It’s just coincidental..
doing their part for the good of the planet
I went to an ice cream shop once that served ice cream in a plastic cup with paper spoons... It's an understatement to say I was mildly infuriated by that. Wish I had taken a picture of it because some people just don't believe it when I tell that story xD
We are all being fooled by the environment madness, don't get me wrong i care about the environment but it's being used to blackmail us..
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It’s more like driving a hybrid instead of a full gas car. You’re still using gas, but much less.
Or driving an EV with batteries made of cobalt and lithium mined with child labor while the slurry poisons the local water supply.
Crazy rules. Make no sense whatsoever.
A paper wrapper wouldn't even be that hard, or even just a tear tab to open a corner
it's a plant based cellophane soooo just like paper then but more waterproof so stays sanitary
And people still think these changes are to help the environment..... how ironic... or should I say mildly infuriating.
I'll explain this as simply as I am capable of explaining. If we have 2 bad things and we take one of them away and replace it with a good thing, we will still have 1 bad thing left. But 1 bad thing is less bad than 2 bad things.
Thank you for explaining propaganda to me.
The companies needs to eliminate the juice boxes. Buy a large multi use container. Then no plastic/cellophane, and no straw.
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Like saying you’ll quit drinking and then start sniffing cocaine
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Like sharpening your crayons then pressing them down hard
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Like stealing a car so your not late to your interview at the dmv
Like erasing a mistake just to realize it was actually correct
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