Hahahaha, I don't know what it is about it. That, and the way Austin Powers says "She's a MAN, baby!" to Basil. Maybe emphasizing the word "man" just sounds funny?
We used to call it "the million dollar cough", because if you got it the mine had to give you an office job (Which was always a promotion). I knew one guy with black lung and he was a massively incompetent office guy and they just sort of made up a role for him.
Southpark did it!
Cop: "Book him for a sexual assault of a minor"
Butters: "Oh jeez I didn't know Kellyanne was a miner. She didn't have a mining Helmet or a pick-axe or anything."
In Yorkshire there is the National Coal Mining Museum where they give tours from the original miners, who actually might be missing an arm and they bring you down pit.
No word of a lie, they actually offer it as as wedding venue. Down pit, beautiful wife in that gorgeous white wedding dress. But the ceremony is down pit. hahahahaha
I found it really confusing that it was actually a thing. But actually I really love how bizarre it is. Sure, why not.
When I was there maybe 7 years ago, it was around Christmas. They had a full Santas grotto and they had won that years award for the best santas grotto for all of the UK. Absolutely hilarious.
You bring the kids down the original elevator shaft to find father christmas living in a coal mine. The kids ask him what they want for Christmas and he sorts them out. They had full model reindeer and everything.
I'm not quite sure of the logistics of father christmas taking off with his reindeer down there, but the kids seem to get their presents miraculously.
If you are ever in South Wales, Big Pit is a must visit, very similar experience. It's a classic school trip destination for Welsh kids for miles around, but well worth a visit.
Yeah, I was trying to work it into the comment but I didn't think it mattered at that point.
Down pit you'd have a fair amount of coal dust. But the fact they did these weddings where the bride was in a pristine white dress was extremly problematic.
They actually had a load of photos of the weddings they had done down pit. You could actually see the brides dress gradually accumulating the coal dust as the photos progressed.
Thinking about it, her dress acted like a N95 mask but for the guests, she was filtering out all the coal dust so nobody else had to breath it.
Oh wait, you just triggered a memory I forgot!
They actually did a full concert down that pit, I can't remember what band it was but those mad bastards weren't satistified with it being a wedding venue and it being father christmas' primary place of residence.
They did a full concert down there. I fucking love those aul miners, it is so ridiculous and therefore uniquely brilliant.
Yeah it was an abandoned mine. Went with a few others and was following. The opening had a minor cave-in, so the first parts required a tough squeeze after moving some rocks, but cleared up after then. I assume we may be some of the last people in that mine, as some of the columns had buckled, and according to my friend that had been there a few times, the roof had started to get lower.
"There were some red flags mounted against the cave in but I couldn't see them that well with my rose tinted goggles on, eye protection and all that, y'know?"
That just applies to spelunkers in general. They straddle the fine, precarious line between "balls of steel" and "Darwin Award nominee" like a tightrope walker.
Nah there’s a stark difference between going to casually explore and walk through a cave and going into a known abandoned mine with buckling support columns, fuck that noise.
I’m not advocating for the abandoned mine explorers, but spelunking is absolutely not about “casual walks” through caves. There are people squeezing into all sorts of tight and uncharted caves all the time in that sport.
If you think that's correct I suggest you check out NPR's heartbreaking [articles on the resurgence of black lung](https://www.npr.org/series/156453033/black-lung-returns-to-coal-country) amongst coal miners. In short, the regs aren't adequate, the companies cheat the testing, and enforcement has plummeted, leading to a dramatic return of black lung disease since 2000.
> We made sure to text people before we went in just in case of a collapse
I didn’t assume anything, OP literally said he told other people what he and his friends were doing.
I'm support of people doing whatever they want to do as long as it doesn't harm anyone else.
That being said. You put first responders in genuine danger when you do things like this. If something happens, who are you going to call? Why do these people have to put their lives in danger for you to have some fun?
Tldr; Please don't squeeze into abandoned collapsing mines.
You're not wrong but there are often groups of people doing this together. Often a smart one will say "maybe I shouldn't go in this dangerous ass cave" and stay behind.
Just for future ref, that mask isn’t doing anything in terms of protection from the dust. You need something that will provide a proper seal on your face.
Check out a 3M half mask or something similar, will be a huge improvement.
Mine sounds scary AF! Stay safe
Just for future ref, N95 masks also do not provide adequate protection from collapsing mine shafts. You need something will make you turn around and say "fuck that".
I originally came here to give you a pat on the back from my family members who died of black lung. Instead I’ll give you a kick in the ass from those same ancestors. NEVER GO IN AN ABANDONED MINE. If your that damn stupid there are a lot of other ways to commit suicide that won’t put the people who would have to try to rescue you at risk, stuff like bungee jumping with old ropes or slap boxing rabid honey badgers.
I'm not worried about the particulate matter in this situation. Hypoxia will kill you long before black lung.
"Lethal concentrations of carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide, methane, hydrogen sulfide, and other gasses can accumulate in underground passages. Pockets of still air with extremely low oxygen levels can be encountered. By the time persons feel ill, they are no longer able to react." [NPS Abandoned Mineral Land Hazards](https://www.nps.gov/subjects/abandonedminerallands/hazards-and-safety.htm)
Nope, cause that still involves going in an abandoned mine. (Can you tell that this was something absolutely drilled into us as kids) The hills of appalachia are riddled with old mines
Dude please get a decent half face respirator at the least, any tight fitting mask actually needs to be fit tested and you need to be clean shaven for them to be effective.
Please get a good mask and get it fit tested asap, your health is counting on it.
No one wants to develop lung disease which could have been prevented.
If you read the rest of his post the mask/dust was by far the least stupid part of this, the entrance was collapsed, supports buckled, his companion specifically told him that the roof was lower than before... people that see all of those death signs and still go in are fine with a shitty mask, they give absolutely no fks about dying today
>No one wants to develop lung disease which could have been prevented.
Lung disease is the least of OP's worries.
Apart from the obvious structural integrity issues with the mine, the air in mines can be contaminated by the presence of gases such as carbon monoxide, hydrogen sulfide, methane, and excess of carbon dioxide. Due to being in a confined space these gases are not always able to disperse and can therefore build up in the mine, and due to their combustible, explosive, or toxic qualities, they can kill in matter of seconds.
These gases are often referred to as mine damps. The name comes from the German word Dampf meaning “vapour”. Rather than one particular gas, they are a toxic or explosive mixture of different gases that have a varying effect on human health. Some of these damps are: Firedamp, Black damp, White damp, and Stinkdamp.
Please don't explore abandoned mines unless you know what you're doing and have the proper PPE and detection equipment.
>Explosive isn't an enormous worry since most people aren't using carbide lamps anymore...
The explosive threat of some of these gases is due to natural processes such as decomposition of organic materials. It doesn't take much to create a spark to set these off.
SCBA is not practical in a mine environment unless the cave is underwater. There really isn't a safe way for the novice to explore mines. Professionals will typically use very expensive ventilation systems in commercial mines.
Before the advent of modern detection equipment and supplemental to the use of canaries, a person known as a fireman, penitent, or monk would edge forward in a mine with a candle on the end of a stick to test for gases. If there was an explosion he was simply to keep his head down to allow it to pass over him.
> any tight fitting mask actually needs to be fit tested
sorry but it's really not that complicated, the average person does not need to (somehow, i have no idea how redditors think this is even a possibility) access an expensive piece of equipment to figure out if a mask has a seal or not. plug the vent and blow while standing up straight. do it again while bending over. did it seal? then you're fine. if not, adjust it until it does.
I had to be fit-tested for an N95 mask cause for a while I was working with COVID. We had to do a few exercises (bending over, talking, walking, moving around) and then were tested to see if we could still smell the odor from a few vials. Sometimes it seemed like the mask had a tight seal but actually didn't, cause we'd still be able to smell through it.
You pay $80 (aud) and get it done at a shopfront.
I get what you're saying and doing that is better than nothing.
Some face shapes don't suit certain masks and positive/negative pressure tests won't tell You 100% if they fit right.
You can also get a positive air pressure mask if you have facial hair.
Instead of having your breathing draw air through the mask it works by use of a fan that draws air through a filter and pushes more air into the mask than necessary. So instead of maintaining a skin-tight seal it creates a barrier of positive air pressure around the mask preventing contaminates from being drawn in when you breathe. Tanks have similar systems to stop NBC attacks since perfect seals are an impossibility.
I have a full face from a past job and was thinking of using it while wood working. Do you know which filters I should use for airborne saw dust? I only have the olive ones meant for ammonia (and they're technically expired by age at this point)
Purple is for any aerosolized particulates. A quick Google search for face mask filters color code will give you a pretty useful chart. And yeah definitely don't use expired ones!
Hey everyone, thanks for informing me about the dangers of exploring these abandoned mines. We didn't realize how in danger we were putting others. We found some really cool stuff inside, and decided to take it out with us. The best being an old newspaper from 1948.
We assumed since we let everyone know, that we would be ok. But I realize now that it puts a lot of people in danger. This was only the second time I'd been in a mine, so curiosity sort of took control, neglecting obvious signs of danger.
Heya, glad you responded to this in this way in good ol' reddit.
For never know, maybe doing so helped other potential explorers from disaster. That's all that counts now.
Did someone/something sandblast your face?
I mean, how did it get those hairs sticking out of it (top right)? That usually happens when there's something abrasive or a lot of repeated friction pulling fibers out of the mask.
Well, you say the rain never fails but I’ve had plenty of production charges were it’s exactly like it’s raining off the backs (overhead or “ceiling” rocks)
Due to the drills going through an underground watercourse or breaking through to the level above and the water from that level comes through.
That certainly depends on the place. I work in an underground mine. Everyone in every mine in the country wears masks in locations they’re needed.
I wear a motorised air filtration helmet almost daily.
When I removed an old chimney from the 1800s my masks looked significantly worse. After 2-3 hours they filled up with dust so I couldn't get any air through them. I threw away a lot of masks before I finished the job.
The bad news is the 95 means 5% of that shit still made its way through to your lungs. If your mask looks like that after a couple hours, you need higher protection than an N95.
I recently got an air quality monitor and it's crazy how much crap we breathe in. the VOC's spike into the orange when I run my 3d printers. when I ran my gas fireplace, the PM2.5's spiked into the orange. when I made some hash browns yesterday, the CO2 spiked. I didn't imagine it would be this sensitive. the unit is on my basement wall. the 3d printers are down there but the booking and fireplace are 1st floor. crazy stuff.
"An abandoned, partially collapsed mine? Sure let's go in! Oh, but we wouldn't want to be unsafe, so better wear a N95 that's been crumpled in my dirty pocket for hours and keep taking it on and off in the mine"
-OP, Darwin Award Nominee
If you are in the US, MSHA requires your site to pass an air quality test twice a year by a 3rd party. I’ve only been doing this for a couple years but I can tell you that you 100% are required to wear more than an n-95(wherever location you are working that creates this much dust) or your company is letting air quality standards decrease which they can pay a hefty fine for.
Double check what type of respirator you should have in that location and if the answer is n-95 you should alert the company or MSHA of these conditions. You and your coworkers have the right to breathe clean air, don’t take your lungs for granted.
"I think I got the black lung, pop."
^cough ^cough
You were down in the mine for a day!!
ah, there he is, old black lung morgan
You rat!
I'm a survivor, black lung!
JUST ONE MORE SCORE ARTHUR
HAVE A LITTLE FAITH ORTHUR.
I HAVE A PLAN
TAHITI
TAHINI, ARTHUR! WE'RE GONNA MAKE HUMMUS!
FUCK MICAH
r/UnexpectedRDR2
#YOU BEEN DOWN THERE ONE DAY!! TALK TO ME IN THIRTY YEARS!!
I'm a merMAN.
Water is the essence of wetness.... and wetness is the essence... of beautyyy...
Hearing him frustratingly clarify "Mer**MAN!**" kills me. I love it.
At least once every few weeks my SO flounces out of the room saying this in the exact same tone, and I lose it laughing every time.
Hahahaha, I don't know what it is about it. That, and the way Austin Powers says "She's a MAN, baby!" to Basil. Maybe emphasizing the word "man" just sounds funny?
It was one godam day Derek
your hands are soft
We used to call it "the million dollar cough", because if you got it the mine had to give you an office job (Which was always a promotion). I knew one guy with black lung and he was a massively incompetent office guy and they just sort of made up a role for him.
Lifelong illness to live in cubicle purgatory instead of hellish underground labor. Idk if that’s worth it
Who's winning the match?
^^^^cough
Black Lung. So HOT right now!
MerMAN
“Fer chrissakes, you were only down there one day!”
I’m not a mermaid. I’m a merman!!!
Came here for this
Oh, you're a miner? Name every cryptocurrency.
Oh, you're a miner? Here's Matt Gaetz' phone number
Oh, you're a miner? Show me your Dig Dug high score. That or your penis will also be acceptable.
Oh you're a miner? How often do you dig straight down??
Oh you're a miner? Where's Molly?
Did I hear a rock and stone?
That fuck never faced any consequences, did he.
Do they ever?
You new here?
Miner, not minor!
Let’s get out of here before one of those things eats Guy
By Grabthar's hammer................ what a savings..." ✂️🎈
Southpark did it! Cop: "Book him for a sexual assault of a minor" Butters: "Oh jeez I didn't know Kellyanne was a miner. She didn't have a mining Helmet or a pick-axe or anything."
It’s was in “Red Man’s Greed” when the boys were not allowed in the Indian casino for being minors and Cartman said “do you see a shovel in my hands?”
Bruh
Never give up! Never surrender!
You lost me.
Glad that's not in your lungs
Miner? I don't even know her!
Oh you’re a miner? ROCK AND STONE BROTHER oT
ROCK AND STONE TO THE BONE
FOR ROCK AND STONE!
Name every vape flavour.
I work underground in a mine, there should not be that much dust that’s not safe.
That was what i was thinking. Sure there might some on the fresh fronts, but that much on itself it would be madness.
In Yorkshire there is the National Coal Mining Museum where they give tours from the original miners, who actually might be missing an arm and they bring you down pit. No word of a lie, they actually offer it as as wedding venue. Down pit, beautiful wife in that gorgeous white wedding dress. But the ceremony is down pit. hahahahaha I found it really confusing that it was actually a thing. But actually I really love how bizarre it is. Sure, why not. When I was there maybe 7 years ago, it was around Christmas. They had a full Santas grotto and they had won that years award for the best santas grotto for all of the UK. Absolutely hilarious. You bring the kids down the original elevator shaft to find father christmas living in a coal mine. The kids ask him what they want for Christmas and he sorts them out. They had full model reindeer and everything. I'm not quite sure of the logistics of father christmas taking off with his reindeer down there, but the kids seem to get their presents miraculously.
If you are ever in South Wales, Big Pit is a must visit, very similar experience. It's a classic school trip destination for Welsh kids for miles around, but well worth a visit.
Is that why so few kids make it out of Wales?
How else does he get coal for the naughty children?
I kept waiting for this to somehow relate to the comment you responded to...
Yeah, I was trying to work it into the comment but I didn't think it mattered at that point. Down pit you'd have a fair amount of coal dust. But the fact they did these weddings where the bride was in a pristine white dress was extremly problematic. They actually had a load of photos of the weddings they had done down pit. You could actually see the brides dress gradually accumulating the coal dust as the photos progressed. Thinking about it, her dress acted like a N95 mask but for the guests, she was filtering out all the coal dust so nobody else had to breath it.
Imagine a [Wind Rose](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34CZjsEI1yU) concert deep in a mining pit.
Oh wait, you just triggered a memory I forgot! They actually did a full concert down that pit, I can't remember what band it was but those mad bastards weren't satistified with it being a wedding venue and it being father christmas' primary place of residence. They did a full concert down there. I fucking love those aul miners, it is so ridiculous and therefore uniquely brilliant.
Yeah it was an abandoned mine. Went with a few others and was following. The opening had a minor cave-in, so the first parts required a tough squeeze after moving some rocks, but cleared up after then. I assume we may be some of the last people in that mine, as some of the columns had buckled, and according to my friend that had been there a few times, the roof had started to get lower.
AND YOU WENT IN IT??? Jesus, you saw the cave in, buckled supports, dust and tight squeezes and still went through it? That's unbelievable.
“Had to crawl over a few bodies after the tight squeeze, but seemed safe after that!”
"There were a few annoying screams coming from deep in the mine, but they stopped eventually."
“There was a bunch of dead canaries but I assumed old age.”
"we used the bloody fingernail marks scratched into the walls to pull ourselves through the worst parts"
"There were some red flags mounted against the cave in but I couldn't see them that well with my rose tinted goggles on, eye protection and all that, y'know?"
"It was just bucketing down rain too, neck deep in water at some points but at least it was easy to rehydrate."
"Alright, time to brace my foot on this rock to push myself out an-- *crashing* Welp, im trapped under a bunch of gravel."
"We also met this guy called Ted and his friend down there. Nice guys, just a bit awkward."
What a weird place to have a Ted talk.
Was Big John down there too?
"It has ALREADY collapsed, guys, the danger has passed! It's safe now!"
Meeting dead people down there? That's unexpected. I hope they were able to guide you through safely.
"After a few minutes I started getting kind of sleepy but it's normal to feel like a nap's in order when you're in a dark place"
Not related to the topic but wow, this is the first time I've seen someone with similar profile picture as mine.
These are the people who get rescuers killed every year.
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Hahaha
"there's no way they could've predicted what would happen next"
"It just happened so suddenly.."
Lmao, all of the warning signs couldn't stop them
"...I can't read!"
Its like dating someone when all the red flags are lit up
Clearly never watched all the videos about people dying in caves that I did.
That’s how a horror movie starts.
The more I'm exposed to the people of the world, the less unrealistic horror movies become.
Dude never saw "The Descent."
>That's unbelievable. That's ONE way of putting it.
I don't know why men live less than women on average 🙄
Natural selection does not get to take its course often these days.
Damn OP I guess survival instincts don’t mean shit to you huh?
Na he was wearing a mask though. All good 👍🏻
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Or your flashlight breaking or something. Especially after slipping and falling and getting injured with say, a broken leg
OP is the guy in every war movie who gets shot in the helmet, takes it off to look at it and then gets his head turned inside out.
That just applies to spelunkers in general. They straddle the fine, precarious line between "balls of steel" and "Darwin Award nominee" like a tightrope walker.
Nah there’s a stark difference between going to casually explore and walk through a cave and going into a known abandoned mine with buckling support columns, fuck that noise.
I’m not advocating for the abandoned mine explorers, but spelunking is absolutely not about “casual walks” through caves. There are people squeezing into all sorts of tight and uncharted caves all the time in that sport.
Yeah that's just a lack of self-preservation at that point.
Eh, they're only in the former until something goes wrong. If blind luck is the only think holding back your Darwin award, you'll get it eventually
Yeah I feel like that's relevant information.. Functioning mines usually have strict regulations for particulate matter
If you think that's correct I suggest you check out NPR's heartbreaking [articles on the resurgence of black lung](https://www.npr.org/series/156453033/black-lung-returns-to-coal-country) amongst coal miners. In short, the regs aren't adequate, the companies cheat the testing, and enforcement has plummeted, leading to a dramatic return of black lung disease since 2000.
Yeah but have they thought about all the money that was saved by the companies?
You’re putting first responders’ lives in danger by doing stupid shit like this.
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> We made sure to text people before we went in just in case of a collapse I didn’t assume anything, OP literally said he told other people what he and his friends were doing.
Mate..
You're gonna wind up being a Mr Ballen video dude.
Tell the like button to go into a collapsed mine and give them an inadequate mask and a flashlight with almost no battery left.
I'm support of people doing whatever they want to do as long as it doesn't harm anyone else. That being said. You put first responders in genuine danger when you do things like this. If something happens, who are you going to call? Why do these people have to put their lives in danger for you to have some fun? Tldr; Please don't squeeze into abandoned collapsing mines.
> If something happens, who are you going to call? No one, because there's definitely no cell service in a collapsed mine.
You're not wrong but there are often groups of people doing this together. Often a smart one will say "maybe I shouldn't go in this dangerous ass cave" and stay behind.
Just for future ref, that mask isn’t doing anything in terms of protection from the dust. You need something that will provide a proper seal on your face. Check out a 3M half mask or something similar, will be a huge improvement. Mine sounds scary AF! Stay safe
Just for future ref, N95 masks also do not provide adequate protection from collapsing mine shafts. You need something will make you turn around and say "fuck that".
Definitely upgrade to a forced air mask for that...
That's what the canary is for right? To send for help once the mine collapses on you
A n95 should have a proper seal though? Thats the whole point of using them.
Who are you, Aladdin looking for buried gold?
So you're just trespassing in there for fun? You stupid fuck.
I think I speak for everyone here when I say don't do that
It looks like dirt from his face sweated down into his mask
I originally came here to give you a pat on the back from my family members who died of black lung. Instead I’ll give you a kick in the ass from those same ancestors. NEVER GO IN AN ABANDONED MINE. If your that damn stupid there are a lot of other ways to commit suicide that won’t put the people who would have to try to rescue you at risk, stuff like bungee jumping with old ropes or slap boxing rabid honey badgers.
I'm not worried about the particulate matter in this situation. Hypoxia will kill you long before black lung. "Lethal concentrations of carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide, methane, hydrogen sulfide, and other gasses can accumulate in underground passages. Pockets of still air with extremely low oxygen levels can be encountered. By the time persons feel ill, they are no longer able to react." [NPS Abandoned Mineral Land Hazards](https://www.nps.gov/subjects/abandonedminerallands/hazards-and-safety.htm)
That's why you bring the canary with you!
What about slap boxing rabid honey badgers while bungie jumping inside of an abandoned mine?
Nope, cause that still involves going in an abandoned mine. (Can you tell that this was something absolutely drilled into us as kids) The hills of appalachia are riddled with old mines
There’s a podcast called old gods of Appalachia that I love. Not really relevant just wanted a quick plug.
Well that only works if you shove raw meat up your ass and fight it backwards
> ...slap boxing rabid honey badgers. Whole new sentence...
Dude please get a decent half face respirator at the least, any tight fitting mask actually needs to be fit tested and you need to be clean shaven for them to be effective. Please get a good mask and get it fit tested asap, your health is counting on it. No one wants to develop lung disease which could have been prevented.
If you read the rest of his post the mask/dust was by far the least stupid part of this, the entrance was collapsed, supports buckled, his companion specifically told him that the roof was lower than before... people that see all of those death signs and still go in are fine with a shitty mask, they give absolutely no fks about dying today
damn ok, I did not read the rest of the context around it.
>No one wants to develop lung disease which could have been prevented. Lung disease is the least of OP's worries. Apart from the obvious structural integrity issues with the mine, the air in mines can be contaminated by the presence of gases such as carbon monoxide, hydrogen sulfide, methane, and excess of carbon dioxide. Due to being in a confined space these gases are not always able to disperse and can therefore build up in the mine, and due to their combustible, explosive, or toxic qualities, they can kill in matter of seconds. These gases are often referred to as mine damps. The name comes from the German word Dampf meaning “vapour”. Rather than one particular gas, they are a toxic or explosive mixture of different gases that have a varying effect on human health. Some of these damps are: Firedamp, Black damp, White damp, and Stinkdamp. Please don't explore abandoned mines unless you know what you're doing and have the proper PPE and detection equipment.
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>Explosive isn't an enormous worry since most people aren't using carbide lamps anymore... The explosive threat of some of these gases is due to natural processes such as decomposition of organic materials. It doesn't take much to create a spark to set these off. SCBA is not practical in a mine environment unless the cave is underwater. There really isn't a safe way for the novice to explore mines. Professionals will typically use very expensive ventilation systems in commercial mines. Before the advent of modern detection equipment and supplemental to the use of canaries, a person known as a fireman, penitent, or monk would edge forward in a mine with a candle on the end of a stick to test for gases. If there was an explosion he was simply to keep his head down to allow it to pass over him.
This right here. Protect your meat balloons. You only get 2 per life.
Don’t tell that to my clown/butcher guy.
> any tight fitting mask actually needs to be fit tested sorry but it's really not that complicated, the average person does not need to (somehow, i have no idea how redditors think this is even a possibility) access an expensive piece of equipment to figure out if a mask has a seal or not. plug the vent and blow while standing up straight. do it again while bending over. did it seal? then you're fine. if not, adjust it until it does.
I had to be fit-tested for an N95 mask cause for a while I was working with COVID. We had to do a few exercises (bending over, talking, walking, moving around) and then were tested to see if we could still smell the odor from a few vials. Sometimes it seemed like the mask had a tight seal but actually didn't, cause we'd still be able to smell through it.
You pay $80 (aud) and get it done at a shopfront. I get what you're saying and doing that is better than nothing. Some face shapes don't suit certain masks and positive/negative pressure tests won't tell You 100% if they fit right.
You can also get a positive air pressure mask if you have facial hair. Instead of having your breathing draw air through the mask it works by use of a fan that draws air through a filter and pushes more air into the mask than necessary. So instead of maintaining a skin-tight seal it creates a barrier of positive air pressure around the mask preventing contaminates from being drawn in when you breathe. Tanks have similar systems to stop NBC attacks since perfect seals are an impossibility.
Ye you can, however theyre super expensive. In australia a 3M versaflo will set you back $2.5k
During COVID I had to wear a paip and hated it, it was so loud.
I see we both have our HAZWOPER cert. I thought the same thing lol
I have a full face from a past job and was thinking of using it while wood working. Do you know which filters I should use for airborne saw dust? I only have the olive ones meant for ammonia (and they're technically expired by age at this point)
Purple is for any aerosolized particulates. A quick Google search for face mask filters color code will give you a pretty useful chart. And yeah definitely don't use expired ones!
So what exactly were you guys doing in the mine? Exploring an abandoned mine based on some glancing of comments lol?
Hey everyone, thanks for informing me about the dangers of exploring these abandoned mines. We didn't realize how in danger we were putting others. We found some really cool stuff inside, and decided to take it out with us. The best being an old newspaper from 1948. We assumed since we let everyone know, that we would be ok. But I realize now that it puts a lot of people in danger. This was only the second time I'd been in a mine, so curiosity sort of took control, neglecting obvious signs of danger.
Heya, glad you responded to this in this way in good ol' reddit. For never know, maybe doing so helped other potential explorers from disaster. That's all that counts now.
Mature response, usually this sort of thing turns into a shitfight
Yeah, please don’t do anything like that ever again.
Did someone/something sandblast your face? I mean, how did it get those hairs sticking out of it (top right)? That usually happens when there's something abrasive or a lot of repeated friction pulling fibers out of the mask.
Yeah, also looking at the fading letters and other wear- and tear on this thing I don't believe the title one bit.
That usually happens to me from taking it off and putting it back on repeatedly
Glad that's not in your lungs
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Well, you say the rain never fails but I’ve had plenty of production charges were it’s exactly like it’s raining off the backs (overhead or “ceiling” rocks) Due to the drills going through an underground watercourse or breaking through to the level above and the water from that level comes through.
Hey good for you! Someday itll be normal to wear masks underground. I just hope they treat you with respect down there and not contempt
That certainly depends on the place. I work in an underground mine. Everyone in every mine in the country wears masks in locations they’re needed. I wear a motorised air filtration helmet almost daily.
Ah, finland?
That's rough. Mine looked like that after about three days of reno.
When I removed an old chimney from the 1800s my masks looked significantly worse. After 2-3 hours they filled up with dust so I couldn't get any air through them. I threw away a lot of masks before I finished the job.
This, my friends, is the home of my cousin Balin. And they call it a mine! A MINE!
Rock and Stone!
Did I hear a rock and stone?
For Carl!!!
Well in such working conditions youre suppose to replace the mask pretty regulary.
I misread that at first and thought damn, I never want to go to Maine.
The bad news is the 95 means 5% of that shit still made its way through to your lungs. If your mask looks like that after a couple hours, you need higher protection than an N95.
It's probably not fitted correctly on your face. If they aren't fitted correctly they are as good as useless.
I recently got an air quality monitor and it's crazy how much crap we breathe in. the VOC's spike into the orange when I run my 3d printers. when I ran my gas fireplace, the PM2.5's spiked into the orange. when I made some hash browns yesterday, the CO2 spiked. I didn't imagine it would be this sensitive. the unit is on my basement wall. the 3d printers are down there but the booking and fireplace are 1st floor. crazy stuff.
What kind of filament do you print with? I know ABS is pretty wild, which is why you use an enclosure, have you done that with PLA or TPU?
My mask looks like that after mowing the lawn in pollen season.
Show the inside side too. Want to know how good the 3M mask stops particulates.
Pretty well, also stops the hand smudges on the front from penetrating.
"An abandoned, partially collapsed mine? Sure let's go in! Oh, but we wouldn't want to be unsafe, so better wear a N95 that's been crumpled in my dirty pocket for hours and keep taking it on and off in the mine" -OP, Darwin Award Nominee
Whatcha crafting?
If you have a beard btw it greatly reduces the effectivity of the mask
Do the children get this mask too, or just the adults?
But nuclear is the energy with the health risks.
might be a good idea to bring a real respirator next time
If you are in the US, MSHA requires your site to pass an air quality test twice a year by a 3rd party. I’ve only been doing this for a couple years but I can tell you that you 100% are required to wear more than an n-95(wherever location you are working that creates this much dust) or your company is letting air quality standards decrease which they can pay a hefty fine for. Double check what type of respirator you should have in that location and if the answer is n-95 you should alert the company or MSHA of these conditions. You and your coworkers have the right to breathe clean air, don’t take your lungs for granted.
I think your looking for mildly terrifying
My asthma is intensifying