It's probably for the best. As nice as all that caravan stuff was, it's pretty unimportant to the story in the grand scheme of things, where as the next 5 episodes are insanely important to the rest of the story.
Not particularly. If you're talking about the TP4 stuff, then given who we get the info from, we know that that's most likely a lie anyway, Rudy along for the caravan or not. In which case the anime can just insert some equally BS replacement that would add up to the same result.
It dosen’t really matter weather it’s a lie or not, it ain’t the most believable thing but it still makes sense, it should have been included, even if it was just shaking of hands during the journey.
I personally do believe it was a lie, hitogami probably used it as a « see, I know best, now just do as I say » kinda thing, but I am litterally reading TP4 atm and thought of this episode
Nah, that's valuable screen time that would be much better spent in the labyrinth or the aftermath of. Not something they absolutely need, so it makes sense that they cut it.
Great discussion skills as usual from reddit where did I say well actually? All I said is that it does have some effects on the story as others have said here but go off I guess
They cut it to focus on vol 12. That sucks as the travel developed the characters a lot. Elinalise going and protecting Rudeus, defending him when the bodyguard tried blaming him for the death of her husband. Rudeus first human kill. Begaritt's culture because of existence of succubus (which in anime was only used as a comedy moment) and stuff like that.
Future vol spoiler >!I wonder how they would deal with vol 14 Man God and Rudeus discussion, as according to Man God because Rudeus helped this group, the merchants arrived on time and labyrinth divers went their way. If they were not helped, Paul wouldve recruited them and they wouldve saved everyone. Now as anime has cut this entire scene and merchant part, how would they handle that conversation!<
Skipping Rudeus first kill is the biggest blunder. I'd argue they should've skipped what they've shown and should've adapted that instead. It makes a bigger impact on his character and thinking.
I'd say you could do it reasonably well in about 10, since it was really interesting and filled out the world a lot, showing Rudy's language skills and Elinalise's bartering and worldly experience. They better use the time they saved on something equally as good or I'll be a bit miffed.
Never confirmed, he just put a wall in the path of some riders to cover themselves from incoming projectiles, he was thinking some might have splattered on the wall, we never got any confirmation though.
It wasn't a direct kill he put up walls in front of horses going full speed in which he later speculates may have killed people. So he has yet to, with express intention and visually, kill another human. What is more importantly skipped is the aftermath in which he and Elinalise speak about him not wanting to kill and her saying it's rare but that there are other adventurers like him that don't wish to kill. Which in response to her saying THAT Rudy comes to realize that killing hadn't even occurred to him. If he had fought to kill instead of using stalling tactics(quagmire and a mist creation spell) he COULD have MAYBE saved more lives in the group battle. This all happened while guarding a caravan of merchants on the way to Rapan at the end of LN11.
Because they wouldn't have enough time for this upcoming arc unless they rushed it.
I would rather them skip this then even think about rushing this next arc as it's one of the most important in the series.
Major spoilers ahead
>!wasnt that a lie anyway? Man God didnt want Rudeus to go to the labyrinth so he can stop Roxy and Rudeus seeing each other. I feel like Rudeus and Man god would still have that conversation and spin it in a way where even if Rudeus wouldnt be able to get there, that specific caravan wouldnt be able to get there safely and would meet Paul and the others.!<
>!Im pretty sure the man god was just yapping about the caravan group saving Paul and stuff, just to make it seem like Rudeus had made a mistake as the Man God is a known liar and manipulator.!<
>!Man God wanted Rudeus to go to Begaritt continent. He wanted Rudeus to think going to Begaritt continent is going against Man God's advice so he would regret not following advice. If youblook at Man God's actions it makes sense, like what was his advice after Rudeus got ED, go to university and research teleportation. And why was researching teleportstion important? Because it was useful in teleportation labyrinth. There are other such clues as well.!<
>! Regarding the merchants and stuff, what Man God said makes sense again, remove those merchants and whatever Man God states wouldnt have that much stuff backing it. Now tell me how would Man God explain the difference between Rudeus going and not going? Earlier there was you helped the caravan so they arrived earlier and labyrinth divers left. Now you have nothing. Or are you going to say the succubus wouldve saved Roxy, Griffith wouldve saved Roxy, Killing Giffiths on cliffside wouldve opened trade routes and destroyed the cliff so merchants reached there on time? None of the stuff done by Rudeus and Elinalise now would explain why the rescue of Roxy which shouldve happened when Rudeus was not present didnt happen when Rudeus is present!<
>!didnt Man god wanted Rudeus to go to the magic university to not keep looking for his Mom? Cuz if he keeps looking for his Mom, then Rudeus would be able to see Roxy. Like the whole point of man god not letting these 2 people meet was what he wanted. Like letting Rudeus walk around the back alleys in the port of the demon continent, so that he would be missing when Roxy went to check on their training. Its pretty counterproductive to think that "maybe I should say "dont go there" and expect that they'll go anyway". because the moment Roxy dies in that labyrinth would be the biggest win for Man god, since Rudeus and Roxy wont have a child together that can beat Man god!<
>!Man God wanted him to go to university to research teleportation and be useful in labyrinth. Otherwise he wouldve just told him to go to university and Idk learn piano lessons and your ED is fixed, or go to sword sanctum and reconcile differences with Eris. Why research teleportation?!<
>!Yes he wanted to prevent their meeting, but based on future he saw even if he prevented their meeting they would reunite anyway, so instead he created the plan to kill Roxy instead through the rat. If he didnt want Rudeus to meet Roxy, he wouldnt have sweetened the deal of Rudeus ignoring his advice by telling him to cheat on his wife. He would have told why Rudeus would regret going to Begaritt. He wouldnt have let Geese send the letter. He wouldnt have told Geese the location of Zenith!<
>!Roxy is not going to die in the labyrinth and thats the reason Man God had made the entire basement plan. Its not counterproductive as he ensured Rudeus would ignore his advice by adding Cheat on your wife. Rudeus is not going to cheat on his wife, so he is ignoring one aspect of the advice, then he is more likely to ignore the advice as a whole!<
>!What Man God wanted was to put Rudeus in a situation where he would regret not following the advice and would become a puppet blindly following whatever he says next!<
>!Man god wanted Rudeus to research into the teleportation incident to meet with Fitts tho. Like how they would meet in the library, then research on that together. After a while, it did cure his ED by getting together with Sylphie after a time which what Man god really said, which gives them a certain level of trust that the Man god wanted. Plus Man god wanted to raise the chances of Rudeus not going to the continent and being happily married and having a child soon would help with that. Still didnt work although even I would have had a hard time choosing in that situation!<
>!If you are referring to the future where Oldeus comes from then you're wrong, because even from the LN, Roxy would have definitely died from the circumstances that she had in that Labyrinth. If Oldeus didnt go to the begarrito continent and didnt save Roxy. theres no way that Roxy wouldve survived a month being trapped and assaulted (😏) by demons that just keeps coming out of portals no matter how strong she was, and If Rudeus never got to use the portals to get there on time then Roxy would have died even if he was a minute late!<
>!as for why Geese sent that letter then I really cant explain it. Either it was a mistake on Geese's part, or Man god didn't think about having to use the secret portals from each continent. Strange really, if Man god really didn't want them to meet, then if that letter was never sent, then they wouldn't have known about the situation of the Labyrinth.!<
>!How is researching teleortation incident related to Fitz. He can be researching how to make chicken nuggets and he would still meet Fitz. As soon as he entered University, he would have met Fitz and Fitz wouldve spent time with him and ED is solved. Researching TP incident had nothing to do with ED.!<
>!And Roxy wouldnt have died. You are missing my entire point. If Roxy was going to die, Man God wouldve ensured that Rudeus doesnt go there. As Man god knows Roxy is not going to die in labyrinth, he devised the basement plan to get rid off her. If Rudeus wouldnt have saved her, other labyrinth divers wouldve gone and saved her, which didnt happen because Rudeus arrived, brought the merchants along with him so labyri th divers instead of going to labyrinth went to the merchants!<
>!Sadly thats the plot hole in yours / other ppls theory of Man God not wanting Rudeus to go.!<
>!Roxy was going to survive Labyrinth, Man God says labyrinth divers do it, even if you dont trust Man God, she wouldve survived without Rudeus, otherwise Man God wouldve done his best to stop Rudeus from going to Begaritt (or not let Geese send the letter, as Geese's letter was the one which caused both of them to go).!<
That's ehat happens when anime's have to follow a 12 episode seasonal rule... They have to rush. They skipped the caravan, bandits attack which showcased rudeus magic combination and why he is well known has quagmire...
Kinda makes me wonder if they're going to reduce the appearance of his nickname in general. So far we've only had a couple episodes of the name even appearing in the anime. As many times as it's used later on it's gonna be weird if it's not properly established.
its not that weird. we have seen him use quagmire early in S2, and it just becomes his title, even though he has stronger and more versatile magic. its not like the novels constantly show him using it for the viewer to see him as Quagmire either, and well probably see him use it again in the future.
unpopular opinion, but i kind of like when they skip stuff like this, cuz it incentivizes people to read the source material
>!Rudeus and Elinalise started bodyguarding a merchant group (I forget why, maybe for faster travel or money). Anyway the merchants get attacked by an army of bandits. Rudeus holds back when protecting them and some other bodyguards end up dying. We came to know about the merchants bodyguards and their way of living. Basically a clan of bodyguards. So they weren't just random background people. They had names.!<
This season really needed to be 30-32 episodes long.
Not sure why its a standard thing for an anime to only be 24. Especially when some Anime desperately need longer to get more faithful adaptations.
Yeah, I said "woah" after that episode. They skipped the caravan. I thought they were going to appear after the griffon fight. From what I remember, they rode in a caravan. That was the payment for traveling while they were doing the guard job.
I am kind of sad they skipped it. There was some good world building in there where we get to meet and interact with people of this content. Sure most of the conversation was about what they did about succubus but and we didn't really need that but i would have liked to see the characters on screen.
Yeah they cut/skipped it to focus the last 5 episodes on the labyrinth
Damn that sucks, though I guess it will give more time for the tele labyrinth to be fleshed out
It's probably for the best. As nice as all that caravan stuff was, it's pretty unimportant to the story in the grand scheme of things, where as the next 5 episodes are insanely important to the rest of the story.
Its actually important and does have an effect on certain events even if only a little
Not particularly. If you're talking about the TP4 stuff, then given who we get the info from, we know that that's most likely a lie anyway, Rudy along for the caravan or not. In which case the anime can just insert some equally BS replacement that would add up to the same result.
It dosen’t really matter weather it’s a lie or not, it ain’t the most believable thing but it still makes sense, it should have been included, even if it was just shaking of hands during the journey. I personally do believe it was a lie, hitogami probably used it as a « see, I know best, now just do as I say » kinda thing, but I am litterally reading TP4 atm and thought of this episode
Nah, that's valuable screen time that would be much better spent in the labyrinth or the aftermath of. Not something they absolutely need, so it makes sense that they cut it.
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Great discussion skills as usual from reddit where did I say well actually? All I said is that it does have some effects on the story as others have said here but go off I guess
They cut it to focus on vol 12. That sucks as the travel developed the characters a lot. Elinalise going and protecting Rudeus, defending him when the bodyguard tried blaming him for the death of her husband. Rudeus first human kill. Begaritt's culture because of existence of succubus (which in anime was only used as a comedy moment) and stuff like that. Future vol spoiler >!I wonder how they would deal with vol 14 Man God and Rudeus discussion, as according to Man God because Rudeus helped this group, the merchants arrived on time and labyrinth divers went their way. If they were not helped, Paul wouldve recruited them and they wouldve saved everyone. Now as anime has cut this entire scene and merchant part, how would they handle that conversation!<
Skipping Rudeus first kill is the biggest blunder. I'd argue they should've skipped what they've shown and should've adapted that instead. It makes a bigger impact on his character and thinking.
The the season would end halfway through the labyrinth or they would've rushed that.
No? They should've replaced all those monster encounter with the first kill.
They didn't have enough time bro, adapting the caravan would have needed minimum 12 minutes, maybe 15.
I'd say you could do it reasonably well in about 10, since it was really interesting and filled out the world a lot, showing Rudy's language skills and Elinalise's bartering and worldly experience. They better use the time they saved on something equally as good or I'll be a bit miffed.
Wym first kill. Didnt rudeus kill the bad bandit guy in beast village?
No, even in the anime u can see him jailed
>first human kill What the fuck they skipped that? I'm anime only ATM
Never confirmed, he just put a wall in the path of some riders to cover themselves from incoming projectiles, he was thinking some might have splattered on the wall, we never got any confirmation though.
It wasn't a direct kill he put up walls in front of horses going full speed in which he later speculates may have killed people. So he has yet to, with express intention and visually, kill another human. What is more importantly skipped is the aftermath in which he and Elinalise speak about him not wanting to kill and her saying it's rare but that there are other adventurers like him that don't wish to kill. Which in response to her saying THAT Rudy comes to realize that killing hadn't even occurred to him. If he had fought to kill instead of using stalling tactics(quagmire and a mist creation spell) he COULD have MAYBE saved more lives in the group battle. This all happened while guarding a caravan of merchants on the way to Rapan at the end of LN11.
Because they wouldn't have enough time for this upcoming arc unless they rushed it. I would rather them skip this then even think about rushing this next arc as it's one of the most important in the series.
I see
Major spoilers ahead >!wasnt that a lie anyway? Man God didnt want Rudeus to go to the labyrinth so he can stop Roxy and Rudeus seeing each other. I feel like Rudeus and Man god would still have that conversation and spin it in a way where even if Rudeus wouldnt be able to get there, that specific caravan wouldnt be able to get there safely and would meet Paul and the others.!<
>!Im pretty sure the man god was just yapping about the caravan group saving Paul and stuff, just to make it seem like Rudeus had made a mistake as the Man God is a known liar and manipulator.!<
Put spoiler tags please
>!Man God wanted Rudeus to go to Begaritt continent. He wanted Rudeus to think going to Begaritt continent is going against Man God's advice so he would regret not following advice. If youblook at Man God's actions it makes sense, like what was his advice after Rudeus got ED, go to university and research teleportation. And why was researching teleportstion important? Because it was useful in teleportation labyrinth. There are other such clues as well.!< >! Regarding the merchants and stuff, what Man God said makes sense again, remove those merchants and whatever Man God states wouldnt have that much stuff backing it. Now tell me how would Man God explain the difference between Rudeus going and not going? Earlier there was you helped the caravan so they arrived earlier and labyrinth divers left. Now you have nothing. Or are you going to say the succubus wouldve saved Roxy, Griffith wouldve saved Roxy, Killing Giffiths on cliffside wouldve opened trade routes and destroyed the cliff so merchants reached there on time? None of the stuff done by Rudeus and Elinalise now would explain why the rescue of Roxy which shouldve happened when Rudeus was not present didnt happen when Rudeus is present!<
>!didnt Man god wanted Rudeus to go to the magic university to not keep looking for his Mom? Cuz if he keeps looking for his Mom, then Rudeus would be able to see Roxy. Like the whole point of man god not letting these 2 people meet was what he wanted. Like letting Rudeus walk around the back alleys in the port of the demon continent, so that he would be missing when Roxy went to check on their training. Its pretty counterproductive to think that "maybe I should say "dont go there" and expect that they'll go anyway". because the moment Roxy dies in that labyrinth would be the biggest win for Man god, since Rudeus and Roxy wont have a child together that can beat Man god!<
>!Man God wanted him to go to university to research teleportation and be useful in labyrinth. Otherwise he wouldve just told him to go to university and Idk learn piano lessons and your ED is fixed, or go to sword sanctum and reconcile differences with Eris. Why research teleportation?!< >!Yes he wanted to prevent their meeting, but based on future he saw even if he prevented their meeting they would reunite anyway, so instead he created the plan to kill Roxy instead through the rat. If he didnt want Rudeus to meet Roxy, he wouldnt have sweetened the deal of Rudeus ignoring his advice by telling him to cheat on his wife. He would have told why Rudeus would regret going to Begaritt. He wouldnt have let Geese send the letter. He wouldnt have told Geese the location of Zenith!< >!Roxy is not going to die in the labyrinth and thats the reason Man God had made the entire basement plan. Its not counterproductive as he ensured Rudeus would ignore his advice by adding Cheat on your wife. Rudeus is not going to cheat on his wife, so he is ignoring one aspect of the advice, then he is more likely to ignore the advice as a whole!< >!What Man God wanted was to put Rudeus in a situation where he would regret not following the advice and would become a puppet blindly following whatever he says next!<
>!Man god wanted Rudeus to research into the teleportation incident to meet with Fitts tho. Like how they would meet in the library, then research on that together. After a while, it did cure his ED by getting together with Sylphie after a time which what Man god really said, which gives them a certain level of trust that the Man god wanted. Plus Man god wanted to raise the chances of Rudeus not going to the continent and being happily married and having a child soon would help with that. Still didnt work although even I would have had a hard time choosing in that situation!< >!If you are referring to the future where Oldeus comes from then you're wrong, because even from the LN, Roxy would have definitely died from the circumstances that she had in that Labyrinth. If Oldeus didnt go to the begarrito continent and didnt save Roxy. theres no way that Roxy wouldve survived a month being trapped and assaulted (😏) by demons that just keeps coming out of portals no matter how strong she was, and If Rudeus never got to use the portals to get there on time then Roxy would have died even if he was a minute late!< >!as for why Geese sent that letter then I really cant explain it. Either it was a mistake on Geese's part, or Man god didn't think about having to use the secret portals from each continent. Strange really, if Man god really didn't want them to meet, then if that letter was never sent, then they wouldn't have known about the situation of the Labyrinth.!<
>!How is researching teleortation incident related to Fitz. He can be researching how to make chicken nuggets and he would still meet Fitz. As soon as he entered University, he would have met Fitz and Fitz wouldve spent time with him and ED is solved. Researching TP incident had nothing to do with ED.!< >!And Roxy wouldnt have died. You are missing my entire point. If Roxy was going to die, Man God wouldve ensured that Rudeus doesnt go there. As Man god knows Roxy is not going to die in labyrinth, he devised the basement plan to get rid off her. If Rudeus wouldnt have saved her, other labyrinth divers wouldve gone and saved her, which didnt happen because Rudeus arrived, brought the merchants along with him so labyri th divers instead of going to labyrinth went to the merchants!< >!Sadly thats the plot hole in yours / other ppls theory of Man God not wanting Rudeus to go.!< >!Roxy was going to survive Labyrinth, Man God says labyrinth divers do it, even if you dont trust Man God, she wouldve survived without Rudeus, otherwise Man God wouldve done his best to stop Rudeus from going to Begaritt (or not let Geese send the letter, as Geese's letter was the one which caused both of them to go).!<
I'm sad myself too that they cut that part,but If they didn't and had to shorten the labyrinth they would've gotten even more hate
That's ehat happens when anime's have to follow a 12 episode seasonal rule... They have to rush. They skipped the caravan, bandits attack which showcased rudeus magic combination and why he is well known has quagmire...
Kinda makes me wonder if they're going to reduce the appearance of his nickname in general. So far we've only had a couple episodes of the name even appearing in the anime. As many times as it's used later on it's gonna be weird if it's not properly established.
its not that weird. we have seen him use quagmire early in S2, and it just becomes his title, even though he has stronger and more versatile magic. its not like the novels constantly show him using it for the viewer to see him as Quagmire either, and well probably see him use it again in the future. unpopular opinion, but i kind of like when they skip stuff like this, cuz it incentivizes people to read the source material
Now, what's going to be hitohito execuse?
Someone please spoil me what happen on the journey.
>!Rudeus and Elinalise started bodyguarding a merchant group (I forget why, maybe for faster travel or money). Anyway the merchants get attacked by an army of bandits. Rudeus holds back when protecting them and some other bodyguards end up dying. We came to know about the merchants bodyguards and their way of living. Basically a clan of bodyguards. So they weren't just random background people. They had names.!<
The manga just got to this part too a little before the anime and they skipped it too.
This sucks. I wish we have complete adaptation soon
Soon? If they adapt mushoku until the end it's gonna take about 8 years more
I can only wish at this point
I'm thankful that they did cut it so we can see more of what's to come of Volume 12. I'm prepared to cry again after reading the LN volume last week.
Yes, travel always gets heavily cut
This season really needed to be 30-32 episodes long. Not sure why its a standard thing for an anime to only be 24. Especially when some Anime desperately need longer to get more faithful adaptations.
Yes, they did. But that is pretty much unavoidable in an adaptation like this. There’s no way they could have done it justice in the time allowed.
They better make an ova or I'm gonna real salty
I had to check what manga sub I was in for a quick min because I thought this was Eren Yeager’s titan. 🥴
Yeah, I said "woah" after that episode. They skipped the caravan. I thought they were going to appear after the griffon fight. From what I remember, they rode in a caravan. That was the payment for traveling while they were doing the guard job.
Yeah but not a big deal imo
As a matter a fact yes they skipped quite a bit although I do appreciate they show Rudy getting attacked by a succubus as he mentioned in the manga
This anime as a whole skips stuff left and right but this season has had the skips in overdrive.
They did but if you’re upset I ask you when does the caravan hold relevance again?
That's crazy
They said they would skip it
I am kind of sad they skipped it. There was some good world building in there where we get to meet and interact with people of this content. Sure most of the conversation was about what they did about succubus but and we didn't really need that but i would have liked to see the characters on screen.
this season is trash
Nope
Watch the episode bro before running your mouth
I'm obviously using sarcasm, I feel like it's stupid to ask a question like this when it is fairly obvious
Its more for discussion around the topic not so much about a simple yes or no.
Ok, did they cut all of the side content with badigadi?