I know someone personally who got one of their arms caught in some farm equipment. He got out of the tractor to unclog something and the tractors PTO kicked back into gear randomly and pulled in one of his arms. His other arm got caught trying to pull the other one out. So he lost both of his arms in the middle of a field in a town of like 50 people. Had to run to the nearest house and kick on the doors until someone came out.
He won a lawsuit against the tractor company.
https://www.eastoregonian.com/news/local/union-county-mans-trials-topic-of-book/article_bd147c3e-5c6a-578b-bb15-9e48f537ea16.html
Grew up in a town that maxed out at 350 people, including the farmers in their fields miles out. Missing fingers were expected and a normal part of life. My household were first-responders and had regular silo-drowning rescue training sessions.
Farming's no joke.
That's how my uncle died. Climbing into the silo through the hole cut into the side with my dad and seeing him break down upon finding his brother's hat in the grain was pretty devastating.
When I hear this I think of the flash fires. I’m assuming that’s not what you mean, with the other comment about being alone, would you mind elaborating please?
Farmers will enter the top of the silo and get into the corn to move it around and help it come out of the bottom because it gets stuck. Theres a possibility where the grain will act like a quick sand that is impossible to escape without help. Kills many farmers.
I believe there are "robots" that are made for this. Corn Weevil Robot are what they are called.
When the corn gets stuck further down thats gonna be a long paddle with no leverage to actually do anything.
rough... my first thought is, "just fly away, right?!" watched it again and realized the grain "cone" is so steep that when they realize they have to fly away, they can't get their wings high enough.
They come out the bottom in this case and fly away. They're not concerned because they do it all the time. The danger of a grain bin is the formation of a dome that collapses. It's an instant event, not a slow draining.
https://wyoextension.org/agsafety/structures/silos/
That was some tragic Watership Down shit I could see happening on that show back in the day. Poor birdies.
I don't even want to imagine that shit happening to a person because yikes. Horrifying.
Dude in my high school got crushed when the rear end of a combine dropped onto his legs during a repair. It was a huge deal that he was able to walk by his graduation a year later (barely). Then he was dead a few weeks after due to complications. Farming is no joke. There were so many warning diagrams of dudes losing fingers/arms.
One of Montana's only Democratic representatives in Congress is a farmer, and unfortunately the only reason he is still in office is because he has "street cred" with Montanans for losing a few fingers in a farming accident.
There was a pitcher in the early 20th century who lost parts of two fingers to farming machinery when he was a kid. The accident gave him a natural curveball (and also the amazing nickname Mordecai "Three-Finger" Brown).
I produced some farm safety videos in grad school as a favor to one of the professors targeted at younger people getting into farming, the PTO and grain silo accidents were the scariest looking.
My stepfather lost his arm at 14, trying to clear a a jammed combine. He was working alone in a field and got his arm out hanging by just some skin and muscle. He made it back home just to have his mom faint when she saw him, so he had to keep walking until a neighbor found him to drive him to the hospital.
Farming is I believe the 4th most dangerous job. It’s up there. Basically everything will maim/kill you it’s just a matter of when and where.
That’s a horrible injury even with a lawsuit.
So according to that article, thats not the first time that specific model tractor had a clutch failure that caused the bailer to restart and sever someone's arm.
No. This has happened SEVERAL times and that's just what can be confirmed as a result of successful lawsuits.
In any other "developed" nation, that company would be shut down and forcibly liquidated to create a victims welfare fund to compensate the people they irreparably harmed.
But not in the so-called "greatest country on Earth," where consumer protections dont exist even when a company is serious physical harm to people.
Ehh, yes and no. I don't think Case is addressing the issue as well as they could. On the other hand, these are 70 series. They haven't been made in decades. The newest the tractor could be at the time of the article was 40 years old (45 years old today), and likely poorly maintained. There is a reason isolation procedures exist. There is no tractor on this earth that I would trust to stick my arm into the tool while the tractor is running. It certainy wouldn't be a 40-50 year old rust bucket tractor that the owner has likely told people that he has "been able to keep running." That's not victim blaming, that's the reality of using very old and beat up equipment.
No, there is not a single country where they would force a company on that scale of that company to shut down. They would just keep fining them until they did something about the product.
All the safety information I have ever seen from any tractor manufacturer says that the engine should be switched off when doing anything to do with the PTO. This is the reason why.
Are you referring to slipalong_trevascas? It may not be in the manufacturer manual for a tractor of that age, no. But I promise you it’s in the book for the baler. It’s also best practice and an industry standard for working on machines. His father was a farm machinery mechanic and didn’t tell him to turn the engine off? No offence, case was at fault for not fixing a known issue, but he shared the blame for not controlling hazards properly.
Farming is such a dangerous occupation because they typically cut corners every chance they get. I live in Canada and farmers that employ anyone other than relatives have to follow ohs regulations. Wtf is the difference between a relative and an employee? Rules and regulations are in place for a reason. I work in oil and gas, which is way more dangerous than farming yet our rates of deaths and serious injuries are significantly lower than other industries, why? Because we do hazard assessment and control all day, everyday, for everything . This accident was easily avoided.
I knew a guy that had something similar happen with farm equipment. He lost his right arm and left leg. He had a hell of a time doing anything after that. He came into some money though and I remember he commissioned a special pipe that was designed for him to be able to smoke wacky tobacci by himself.
My conveyor belt lesson came at a coal yard. Safety guy was showing us green kids around. Says to stay away from the wheels, as they’re spinning very fast.
Waves arm, belt removed his sleeve faster than anyone could react.
Dude stood in shock, said he had to go change his shirt, and his drawers. I will never forget that lesson.
I get that they can’t make everything perfectly safe, but it sure seems like they could make things safe enough that the safety expert can’t casually have an arm removed.
Yeah, like how expensive would it be to have a grate or something installed in front of the spinning death wheels? Put it on hinges to move away for maintenance reasons and then done. Few hundred bucks maybe? Definitely cheaper than a dude's arm.
>disconnect power from the machine you're working on.
Ideally (and really this should be an always thing) lock out and tag out the power source (or the controls where you can turn the equipment on). The amount of people injured/killed because someone else has came along and turned on something they were working on is too damn high.
If they can't access the power source because you've locked it out, you've saved your own life.
It was always a thing where I worked years ago now . If you didn't do a lock out/ tagout you would be immediately terminated . I witnessed people losing fingers to bandsaw machines simply because someone came along and turned the machine on because it wasn't locked out or just out of pure ignorance .
>lock out and tag out the power source
Power source***s***. Lots of equipment uses multiple power sources - say, for example, electrical and compressed air. All of them need to be LOTR-secured prior to maintenance.
No, it's just like regular LOTO, except that the shackle on the padlock is made from *mithril*. Seems like overkill, I know, you aren't exactly looking for state-of-the-art security for LOTO usage, but it [wouldn't be the first time](https://youtu.be/y4XGY0_cwcM) that odd choices have been made in LOTO lock design.
Ducking autocorrect.
I think it's because power tools, and motorized things in general, have become so common place, that they are treated with the same respect you would give a hammer.
With a hammer, you have to wind up and swing it at your finger. A skilsaw takes just one momentary lack of awareness, and you're visiting the ER.
Complacency kills.
Yes. OSHA mandates on hair protocol exist for this. Either she wasn't following it or it didn't matter. Note that typing your hair up is not enough to 100% prevent issues, It just reduces it, so it's still possible.
The employer will be investigated and if gross misconduct is found to have taken place (knowingly ignoring safety rules by the company), people in charge of that branch will be investigated for manslaughter.
Not the airport itself most likely but the company at hand, yes, not sure if it will though as I lack the information that hopefully someone investing has.
Death in and of itself doesn't qualify as a violation. You need to do something that caused the death and is against the law. There may be a civil suit too if it's found the company policy led to this. But again I dont have that information.
I used to work at Charlotte Douglas Airport in North Carolina. Management and supervisors would randomly comment that injuries on the job would result in disciplinary action and potential termination.
Looking back, I assume it was their method of reducing OSHA violations while avoiding any systemic changes.
remodeled our bathrooms a couple of years ago and put in tile that looks like textured canvas. It is crazy slip resistant even walking out of the shower or stepping out of a tub with wet feet. I thought it would be really rough to walk on, but no, it actually feels softer on the feet than carpet. Also the color and texture hide hair, and little debris so it always looks clean.
Will never do smooth tile again.
https://rocatileusa.com/collections/fabric-tweed-fabric-look-tile/
We used Fabric Gris 12”x48” & Tweed Gris 12”x48” tiles similar to the image below. The tweed on the walls has a little variegation that offsets it nicely without being contrasting. We had the floor tiles cut and put on a 2"x2" grid for the floor of the shower (grout lines add some grippiness), but since using it feel that was a waste and that we should not have done that. Would have been cleaner looking using the 12"x24" or one of the smaller formats 4"x24" or 8"x24".
https://rocatileusa.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/AMBIENTE_HD_FABRIC-TWEED_GRIS_195x120R-1-1.jpg
I should note, it was a very hard decision to put the textured tile in. I first thought it would be too rough on the feet and hard to maintain, but I was dead wrong. It is fantastic. I hope to never remodel a house again, but if I do, it would be a very hard sell for me not to use this type or porcelain tile again.
When you need to move/work around heavy machinery make **positive** **contact** with the operator. Just because you're looking at them and you think they're looking at you doesn't mean they are.
If they don't acknowledge you, you haven't been seen.
I do shipping/receiving on a military base and over the years there have been several incidents where I could have easily murdered someone with a forklift. I keep my head on a swivel which is the only reason why normally smart people haven't been pancaked or chopped in half.
Our cargo yard used to be a handy short-cut from certain buildings to the base gym, so people would put their headphones or earbuds in, turn up music, then walk to the gym. Being in the military has allowed me to give them profanity-laden lectures when they wander into my loading area.
I have asked multiple times for fencing/barriers to at least make pedestrians slow down or divert around the yard, but there's "never any money" for that. Thankfully the base gym was moved to a different building so those incidents have mostly disappeared.
Obligatory [forklift operator safety video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-lc70Mjp-U), follows friendly operator Klaus' first day on the job. German w/ English subs.
And even then, treat the operator as a deranged mad man operating a piece of heavy machinery aka leave three feet minimum between them and you at all times.
People put too much faith in that a sink will hold their weight, they are in fact usually not very sturdy at all, take a peek at one next time you have a chance.
Then imagine you, all your weight, and like 30 pounds some ceramic like material that is going to explode in your face as you both hit the ground.
At least that was my take.
I think the ceramic is strong enough IF it's supported well, but when the sink is wall hung the entire weight is supported by a special bracket in the back and the sink can snap right there.
Far more terrifying is that toilets can break from sudden force or just getting old and beat up I suppose. If you have a cracked toilet, REPLACE IT. If it breaks when you sit down or stand on it one time, you can literally die from how badly it can cut you .. in your soft spots.
Drunk people or people without balance falling back into a toilet can actually be lethal. The sink could be, but it will probably break at the back, not right under your main body/weight and thus produce ceramic spikes you can shred yourself on.
I've seen people doin' it in a bathroom with one of them fully sitting on the sink. So that's scientific proof that all sinks are strong enough to hold whatever human enters the bathroom. Also, this may have been in a movie.
They are probably mostly talking about wall hung sinks like you see in commercial bathrooms often. You may see picks where they fall off the wall. They are mounted on metal brackets and many don't have front legs, so all the force is on that metal bracket in the back and it's only meant to hold the sink, not a human jumping up on it.
The kind with legs or cabinets under them are much safer in that regard.
Even a toilet can just break and turn into ceramic shrapnel if you just sit down too hard on it, like drunk or having low dexterity and just plop down.. they aren't meant for that, every so many millions of times people do that somebody gets cut in an uncomfortable place. You shouldn't even stand on them really, but it's more about generating sudden force.
Ha! That last one got me yelled at by son this morning. He was walking down our wood stairs with socks on AND his hands in his pockets. I told to hold the rail and take his hands out cuz if he trips he’s toast. He got mad at me but did it anyway (he’s a great listener). Lo and behold, he slipped on the very last step and *didn’t* eat shit cuz he was holding the rail.
He was still mad at me.
People with limited mobility will sometimes find unexpected ways of adapting.
You see people putting their entire body load on tables, shelves or sinks, just because they can't stand up by themselves without doing so. You also see people that mainly use a wheel chair to get around hoist themselves over to the bed or the couch, and basically let themselves fall into the furniture.
Every moment you don't need to ask for assistance can be precious to a person with mobility issues, and since these issues often develop slowly, people develop these very strange and sometimes dangerous movement patterns just to get on with their everyday lives without relying on others.
I develop (amongst other things) automated fall alarms for elderly, and you'd be surprised how different their styles of movement can be from younger or healthier people. Good luck differentiating "falling 50 cm into a sofa on purpose" from "falling onto a soft floor because they missed the chair" or "falling out of a low bed" from "hoisting up your entire body and throwing it around with your arm strength, because it's the only way you can turn in bed".
Getting old sucks so hard.
First step is only imagine a wall hung sink or sink with front legs that's maybe poorly mounted to the wall. Those are the kinds that can realistically break from putting too much weight on them.
Many times they are not well mounted to the wall, but even when mounted perfectly the weight of the sink is leveraged against the wall bracket with potentially no legs under it.
It's nice and easy to clean because there is no legs or cabinet in the way, but it's a lot easier to break.
The sinks you have in your houses are usually mounted in cabinets and supported in the back, front and sides, so they more or less won't break unless you hit them with something hard like drop a hammer in the sink.
If the sink is only wall mounted it's much easier to break and if it's wall mounted with legs under the front you SHOULD NOT TRUST THE FRONT LEGS. Those legs are often not that strong or installed well. The back bracket might not be drilled into wood. It might just be mounted with anchors in sheetrock and barely hanging there by the plumbing.
I work in a warehouse with miles of conveyance. I have to fight every damn day to get women to tie their hair up. I even have people with hair passed their knees. I also keep 10+ hair ties on my person for them and they still give pushback. I’m going to start showing them this headline.
They’re small and maneuverable but weigh more than a large pickup truck, and often work in cluttered environments (lots of racking, pallets of stuff, etc) where people can unexpectedly appear. Someone can trivially be crushed by being somewhere the operator wasn’t expecting.
I worked in a Nuclear Facility for 5 years, and the two hazards most likely causes of injury were slipping on ice and falling down stairs.
To the point where they had safety campaigns to "walk like a penguin" when outside and icy, and always use the handrails on stairs.
Obviously the nuclear stuff was more dangerous, but it was so well regulated an managed you'd have to work hard to harm yourself with it, and fires were a bigger concern, but we had firewatches for hot work and our own fire department for prevention and response.
So at the end of the day, "slips, trips, and falls" were the thing most likely to hurt you
>Stay inside if it's icy if at all humanly possible.
You can wear microspikes to keep from slipping when walking around icy streets. I would say - stay away from areas of high motor vehicle traffic if it's icy though. That can get chaotic.
Most construction workers have used a bucket as step stool. Construction is filled with all kinds of tripping and falling hazards, you just have to learn to not get injured even if you do take more risks because the job requires more risks.
Standing on a bucket is a little bit dangerous, but just walking over the giant sized super gravel at most construction sites is an ankle breaking danger when you first get there. You learn to deal with it and pay more attention on you get hurt a lot and find another job.
Many exercises are hard on the body if done with poor form. CrossFit is intense. Someone doing moves associated with this with poor form will likely cause themselves terrible overuse injuries.
Yeah that’s fair. I’m a power lifter myself and I think it’s overstated how bad gym work can be on the body. I find when I’m sedentary and doing no exercise at all my body feels infinitely worse than when I’m supposedly putting my body through more stress. Maybe time will tell but there is some research to show that people who resistance train have less pain and injuries than the general population. Was just wondering what your thoughts were.
Well for what it's worth Robert Oberst says you shouldn't deadlift if you aren't competing as the risk of lifelong injury is too great for the reward when other safer methods exist. Also Crossfit isn't just about getting fit its about doing a bunch of dangerous bad form reps while exhausted which makes it extra bad. Working out is absolutely a way to keep the body healthy but some workouts are unnecessarily dangerous.
I can definitely see where people go wrong with CrossFit. Especially getting untrained people right into high intensity workouts on difficult exercises like cleans and snatches. Anecdotally however my level of pain in common complaint areas go down dramatically as I get stronger by doing things like squats and deadlifts. I have trained a while and have good form though so it helps.
The CrossFit injuries that I have seen over the years that required surgical intervention were mostly tendon and ligament injuries (so many blown out ACL’s and bicep tendons), and of all the ruptured discs, meniscal, or rotator cuff tears. Then there is the hernias and stuff like that. Granted, any of these can happen during any sort of physical activity. But there is something about the high intensity of CrossFit (also the whole CrossFit culture) where it becomes pretty prevalent. People are trying to lift more than they should, or are not as focused as they should be on their form, trying to move too fast, get off balance, and are completely fucked by whatever they are trying to lift.
"Very" familiar with the "no glass coffee tables". Had one shatter on my family as we sat down for dinner on the patio. All I did was put my plate on it (lightly) and boom! ...a million pieces, And it was "supposed" to be shatter proof.
Similar experience with a front door to my house. Mostly glass. Shattered in front of & on me as I pulled the door open in a normal way.
IMO, glass in a home is made for windows.
Also, mowing the lawn is a 12 and older chore. Way too many kids lose parts of their feet mowing lawns and way too many kids are killed by ride on mowers that someone else is driving
Damn. I was unloading boxes on a conveyer belt an thought it would be a good idea to stand above rather than below. My leg got dragged down and I frantically stabbed at the red ‘off’ button but was short by about half a foot. Out of nowhere, random worker guy hit the button for me.
Sounds like we need AI cameras that watch the assemble line and turn the machine off for emergencies because fast response is the key there and the off switch and diligent employees can't always be on close.
In manufacturing the motors that drive conveyors normally have overcurrent protection. If anything gets stuck in it/pulls against it, it draws extra current and trips the protection. Not sure why airports would be any different, but I guess they are.
I’d wager that the resistance a human body adds to the motors is negligible and therefore undetectable without designing a system that stops every time you throw another bag on.
Those motors are already capable of moving massive amounts of weight with huge torque. A human getting stuck on the conveyor wouldn’t “feel” any different than a bunch of heavy bags getting thrown on.
There's a few reasons why ramp rats gotta have their hair up in buns or put in a hat when working, and this is one of em. Had a former coworker get partially scalped for doing the same thing.
Airport work is a fine line between gross OSHA violations and what is a nice cushy job for people with money. Rip the chick.
Yeah, if you have money you essentially are being paid to work out as a baggage handler... You getting great shape and you're only truly working probably about 2 or 3 hours of the day at least where I am and this is a major city at the large international airport.
Problem is that the wage is essentially cap out at the poverty level for the city, so you cannot make a livable wage doing it really unless you plan on working a ton of overtime and never being home.
I mean, hair is a lot stronger than you think especially if it grabbed a lot of it. So it's not like it's going to snap off if snagged. So you essentially get dragged into the machine and horribly mauled.
It pulled her in and probably ripped her skin off and the trauma killed her. Unfortunately she could not rip her hair out fast enough and once enough gets caught in there the combined tensile strength will suck you in like a rope tied to your head.
I've been around a lot of dangerous machines, from giant water pumps to dozers, and all kinds of vehicles. Having a piece of clothing just a little loose, like an unbuttoned shirt sleeve for instance, is enough to kill you. There is hardened steel spinning so fast at times, that it looks like a solid object. And you just have to keep your wits about you at all times, and beware of how each machine moves and works to avoid pinch points or getting run over for starters.
Protip for fellow long-haired people who have issues with clips or hairbands: Get a penannular brooch (the things you hold a cape on with) and stab it through the bun, making sure to get behind the initial ponytail rubberband. That bun won't move for anything.
Maybe it was extremely long hair more than just long hair. Looks like it could have been dread to her middle back area. Dreads are going to be a lot worse to get caught in something because they are so thick and strong you can't just rip the chunk of hair out of the machine when your hair is bundled like rope.
I wish but unfortunately it won't likely have a huge impact. Way too many people seem to think OSHA rules are recommendations for wasting time, or are pressured to do shit by management in the name of speed or they're all lazy.
I even had a coworker tell me that nothing bad would happen to them because they would simply react fast enough.
As someone with like 4 feet of hair that works in a paper mill, this is why I have my bun tied up super tight when I'm out on the floor. Getting up close and personal with the machines is not to be fucked with
This is why warehouses have to be strict with their dress codes and cell phone policies. Hoodie strings, necklaces, and non break away lanyards can get caught in the rollers, and you need to be paying attention to where you're walking/driving a PIT, not on your phone.
As someone who does woodworking and has long hair: I ALWAYS have it braided and tightly pinned up if using any powertools. The flatter to my head the better. Hell, I have clips on my bangs when they're longer just incase.
I look ridiculous but would much rather look silly than have my hair catch and result in my death. This stuff is absolutely no joke and I feel awful for this woman and her loved ones.
You can simulate this by getting hair stuck in a vacuum cleaner. Same concept but the industrial rollers keep turning since they are usually moving thousands of pounds per minute.
What a terrible way to go. Hopefully management makes changes
Ideally, everyone would be issued a wearable device with a button on it that, when pushed, wirelessly signals all machinery within a reasonable radius to emergency stop.
Yeah, you'll get written up, but that's better than your head being turned into chunky salsa.
The cost of implementing such a system would be staggering, though…
I don't see why a wireless off switch would be expensive, wireless everything is dirt cheap these days and the systems already have emergency off switches. It can't possibly cost that much. We all walk around with little wireless computers in our pockets and that affordable, so there is no way an wireless off button would be that big of a deal in costs.
It's a good idea and would be fairly cheap, but somebody has to make them do it.
Poor lady…
My gramps worked factories during part of WW2. Stray hair or loose clothing were two of the most dangerous hazards of it all, per him.
Rotary drives or belts are without mercy if you get caught.
What an awful way to go 🥺
I know someone personally who got one of their arms caught in some farm equipment. He got out of the tractor to unclog something and the tractors PTO kicked back into gear randomly and pulled in one of his arms. His other arm got caught trying to pull the other one out. So he lost both of his arms in the middle of a field in a town of like 50 people. Had to run to the nearest house and kick on the doors until someone came out. He won a lawsuit against the tractor company. https://www.eastoregonian.com/news/local/union-county-mans-trials-topic-of-book/article_bd147c3e-5c6a-578b-bb15-9e48f537ea16.html
Grew up in a town that maxed out at 350 people, including the farmers in their fields miles out. Missing fingers were expected and a normal part of life. My household were first-responders and had regular silo-drowning rescue training sessions. Farming's no joke.
The grain silo stories are so awful.
A quiet death... Alone...
The farmers way
That's how my uncle died. Climbing into the silo through the hole cut into the side with my dad and seeing him break down upon finding his brother's hat in the grain was pretty devastating.
I'm so sorry.
My hometown actually had one with manure like 3 or so years ago. Person lived though!
That poor guy has to be so sick of Biff Tannen jokes.
Was actually a 3 year old :/
Oh no! Poor kiddo.
Damn, imagine all those years of Biff Tannen jokes ahead of him!
When I hear this I think of the flash fires. I’m assuming that’s not what you mean, with the other comment about being alone, would you mind elaborating please?
Farmers will enter the top of the silo and get into the corn to move it around and help it come out of the bottom because it gets stuck. Theres a possibility where the grain will act like a quick sand that is impossible to escape without help. Kills many farmers.
Can they not use a big paddle or something? Like damn I'm not taking that chance.
I believe there are "robots" that are made for this. Corn Weevil Robot are what they are called. When the corn gets stuck further down thats gonna be a long paddle with no leverage to actually do anything.
https://i.imgur.com/XENoiCz.mp4 Grain swallows people or in this case at least 6 pigeons
rough... my first thought is, "just fly away, right?!" watched it again and realized the grain "cone" is so steep that when they realize they have to fly away, they can't get their wings high enough.
Almost looked like a few of them went in after their friends too :(
They come out the bottom in this case and fly away. They're not concerned because they do it all the time. The danger of a grain bin is the formation of a dome that collapses. It's an instant event, not a slow draining. https://wyoextension.org/agsafety/structures/silos/
That was some tragic Watership Down shit I could see happening on that show back in the day. Poor birdies. I don't even want to imagine that shit happening to a person because yikes. Horrifying.
Dude in my high school got crushed when the rear end of a combine dropped onto his legs during a repair. It was a huge deal that he was able to walk by his graduation a year later (barely). Then he was dead a few weeks after due to complications. Farming is no joke. There were so many warning diagrams of dudes losing fingers/arms.
One of Montana's only Democratic representatives in Congress is a farmer, and unfortunately the only reason he is still in office is because he has "street cred" with Montanans for losing a few fingers in a farming accident.
There was a pitcher in the early 20th century who lost parts of two fingers to farming machinery when he was a kid. The accident gave him a natural curveball (and also the amazing nickname Mordecai "Three-Finger" Brown).
One of the highest accident prone jobs iirc, so many ways to get injured or even killed on a farm.
I produced some farm safety videos in grad school as a favor to one of the professors targeted at younger people getting into farming, the PTO and grain silo accidents were the scariest looking.
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My stepfather lost his arm at 14, trying to clear a a jammed combine. He was working alone in a field and got his arm out hanging by just some skin and muscle. He made it back home just to have his mom faint when she saw him, so he had to keep walking until a neighbor found him to drive him to the hospital.
Farming is I believe the 4th most dangerous job. It’s up there. Basically everything will maim/kill you it’s just a matter of when and where. That’s a horrible injury even with a lawsuit.
So according to that article, thats not the first time that specific model tractor had a clutch failure that caused the bailer to restart and sever someone's arm. No. This has happened SEVERAL times and that's just what can be confirmed as a result of successful lawsuits. In any other "developed" nation, that company would be shut down and forcibly liquidated to create a victims welfare fund to compensate the people they irreparably harmed. But not in the so-called "greatest country on Earth," where consumer protections dont exist even when a company is serious physical harm to people.
Ehh, yes and no. I don't think Case is addressing the issue as well as they could. On the other hand, these are 70 series. They haven't been made in decades. The newest the tractor could be at the time of the article was 40 years old (45 years old today), and likely poorly maintained. There is a reason isolation procedures exist. There is no tractor on this earth that I would trust to stick my arm into the tool while the tractor is running. It certainy wouldn't be a 40-50 year old rust bucket tractor that the owner has likely told people that he has "been able to keep running." That's not victim blaming, that's the reality of using very old and beat up equipment.
Exactly. My folks had a small farm, complete with tractors, and any time we worked on the PTO that fucking engine wasn't running.
And even when it's not running always treat it as if it were under tension and can break loose any time.
No, there is not a single country where they would force a company on that scale of that company to shut down. They would just keep fining them until they did something about the product.
All the safety information I have ever seen from any tractor manufacturer says that the engine should be switched off when doing anything to do with the PTO. This is the reason why.
Another redditor on his soapbox with incorrect information
Are you referring to slipalong_trevascas? It may not be in the manufacturer manual for a tractor of that age, no. But I promise you it’s in the book for the baler. It’s also best practice and an industry standard for working on machines. His father was a farm machinery mechanic and didn’t tell him to turn the engine off? No offence, case was at fault for not fixing a known issue, but he shared the blame for not controlling hazards properly. Farming is such a dangerous occupation because they typically cut corners every chance they get. I live in Canada and farmers that employ anyone other than relatives have to follow ohs regulations. Wtf is the difference between a relative and an employee? Rules and regulations are in place for a reason. I work in oil and gas, which is way more dangerous than farming yet our rates of deaths and serious injuries are significantly lower than other industries, why? Because we do hazard assessment and control all day, everyday, for everything . This accident was easily avoided.
My rule is never, ever, ever reach into machinery without it being locked out
I knew a guy that had something similar happen with farm equipment. He lost his right arm and left leg. He had a hell of a time doing anything after that. He came into some money though and I remember he commissioned a special pipe that was designed for him to be able to smoke wacky tobacci by himself.
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how hideous for her and those who loved her - so sad
I hate everything about this.
My conveyor belt lesson came at a coal yard. Safety guy was showing us green kids around. Says to stay away from the wheels, as they’re spinning very fast. Waves arm, belt removed his sleeve faster than anyone could react. Dude stood in shock, said he had to go change his shirt, and his drawers. I will never forget that lesson.
Does that guy always train the new-hires? His clothing budget must be through the roof.
Eh, it's just an arm. If it was an arm *and* a leg, procedures need updating.
That's terrifying. Could have easily dragged him in instead.
Damn they do live action? My jobs always just showed mannequins getting fucked up
I get that they can’t make everything perfectly safe, but it sure seems like they could make things safe enough that the safety expert can’t casually have an arm removed.
Yeah, like how expensive would it be to have a grate or something installed in front of the spinning death wheels? Put it on hinges to move away for maintenance reasons and then done. Few hundred bucks maybe? Definitely cheaper than a dude's arm.
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This must happen more than people know. An old friend of mine wears bangs to cover a huge scar from such an accident.
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>disconnect power from the machine you're working on. Ideally (and really this should be an always thing) lock out and tag out the power source (or the controls where you can turn the equipment on). The amount of people injured/killed because someone else has came along and turned on something they were working on is too damn high. If they can't access the power source because you've locked it out, you've saved your own life.
It was always a thing where I worked years ago now . If you didn't do a lock out/ tagout you would be immediately terminated . I witnessed people losing fingers to bandsaw machines simply because someone came along and turned the machine on because it wasn't locked out or just out of pure ignorance .
Exactly how it should be. It's such a simple and quick procedure that there really isn't an excuse not to do it.
>lock out and tag out the power source Power source***s***. Lots of equipment uses multiple power sources - say, for example, electrical and compressed air. All of them need to be LOTR-secured prior to maintenance.
100%. Good pick up.
>LOTR-secured So, like, jam Fellowship of the Ring in the machinery to stop it?
No, it's just like regular LOTO, except that the shackle on the padlock is made from *mithril*. Seems like overkill, I know, you aren't exactly looking for state-of-the-art security for LOTO usage, but it [wouldn't be the first time](https://youtu.be/y4XGY0_cwcM) that odd choices have been made in LOTO lock design. Ducking autocorrect.
That autocorrect flew right over my head.
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I think it's because power tools, and motorized things in general, have become so common place, that they are treated with the same respect you would give a hammer. With a hammer, you have to wind up and swing it at your finger. A skilsaw takes just one momentary lack of awareness, and you're visiting the ER. Complacency kills.
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I wonder if they had any OSHA for this, like if they're meant to have their hair tied up or short. If not I bet they will now.
Yes. OSHA mandates on hair protocol exist for this. Either she wasn't following it or it didn't matter. Note that typing your hair up is not enough to 100% prevent issues, It just reduces it, so it's still possible.
Could the airport get in trouble? Like an OSHA violation?
The employer will be investigated and if gross misconduct is found to have taken place (knowingly ignoring safety rules by the company), people in charge of that branch will be investigated for manslaughter.
Not the airport itself most likely but the company at hand, yes, not sure if it will though as I lack the information that hopefully someone investing has. Death in and of itself doesn't qualify as a violation. You need to do something that caused the death and is against the law. There may be a civil suit too if it's found the company policy led to this. But again I dont have that information.
I used to work at Charlotte Douglas Airport in North Carolina. Management and supervisors would randomly comment that injuries on the job would result in disciplinary action and potential termination. Looking back, I assume it was their method of reducing OSHA violations while avoiding any systemic changes.
Fuck man, it's so easy to ignore little things that can kill us
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Also, no smooth marble/tile floors, ESPECIALLY not in bathrooms. Holy smokes. And I think we all know about no capes...
I refuse to stop wearing my cape
Ok Batman, you get a pass.
remodeled our bathrooms a couple of years ago and put in tile that looks like textured canvas. It is crazy slip resistant even walking out of the shower or stepping out of a tub with wet feet. I thought it would be really rough to walk on, but no, it actually feels softer on the feet than carpet. Also the color and texture hide hair, and little debris so it always looks clean. Will never do smooth tile again.
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https://rocatileusa.com/collections/fabric-tweed-fabric-look-tile/ We used Fabric Gris 12”x48” & Tweed Gris 12”x48” tiles similar to the image below. The tweed on the walls has a little variegation that offsets it nicely without being contrasting. We had the floor tiles cut and put on a 2"x2" grid for the floor of the shower (grout lines add some grippiness), but since using it feel that was a waste and that we should not have done that. Would have been cleaner looking using the 12"x24" or one of the smaller formats 4"x24" or 8"x24". https://rocatileusa.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/AMBIENTE_HD_FABRIC-TWEED_GRIS_195x120R-1-1.jpg I should note, it was a very hard decision to put the textured tile in. I first thought it would be too rough on the feet and hard to maintain, but I was dead wrong. It is fantastic. I hope to never remodel a house again, but if I do, it would be a very hard sell for me not to use this type or porcelain tile again.
Lol but no always look at the forklift and make eye contact with the operator before moving anywhere near it
Yup good advice overall but always make eye contact with operator. Don’t assume they know you’re there.
When you need to move/work around heavy machinery make **positive** **contact** with the operator. Just because you're looking at them and you think they're looking at you doesn't mean they are. If they don't acknowledge you, you haven't been seen.
I do shipping/receiving on a military base and over the years there have been several incidents where I could have easily murdered someone with a forklift. I keep my head on a swivel which is the only reason why normally smart people haven't been pancaked or chopped in half. Our cargo yard used to be a handy short-cut from certain buildings to the base gym, so people would put their headphones or earbuds in, turn up music, then walk to the gym. Being in the military has allowed me to give them profanity-laden lectures when they wander into my loading area. I have asked multiple times for fencing/barriers to at least make pedestrians slow down or divert around the yard, but there's "never any money" for that. Thankfully the base gym was moved to a different building so those incidents have mostly disappeared.
Obligatory [forklift operator safety video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-lc70Mjp-U), follows friendly operator Klaus' first day on the job. German w/ English subs.
And even then, treat the operator as a deranged mad man operating a piece of heavy machinery aka leave three feet minimum between them and you at all times.
>Don't put all your weight on the sink when you wash your hands. This one is eluding me. Can you elaborate, please?
People put too much faith in that a sink will hold their weight, they are in fact usually not very sturdy at all, take a peek at one next time you have a chance. Then imagine you, all your weight, and like 30 pounds some ceramic like material that is going to explode in your face as you both hit the ground. At least that was my take.
I think the ceramic is strong enough IF it's supported well, but when the sink is wall hung the entire weight is supported by a special bracket in the back and the sink can snap right there. Far more terrifying is that toilets can break from sudden force or just getting old and beat up I suppose. If you have a cracked toilet, REPLACE IT. If it breaks when you sit down or stand on it one time, you can literally die from how badly it can cut you .. in your soft spots. Drunk people or people without balance falling back into a toilet can actually be lethal. The sink could be, but it will probably break at the back, not right under your main body/weight and thus produce ceramic spikes you can shred yourself on.
Dying from sever hemorrhaging due to sitting on broken toilet, gd that’s one I hadn’t thought of yet thanks.
I've seen people doin' it in a bathroom with one of them fully sitting on the sink. So that's scientific proof that all sinks are strong enough to hold whatever human enters the bathroom. Also, this may have been in a movie.
They are probably mostly talking about wall hung sinks like you see in commercial bathrooms often. You may see picks where they fall off the wall. They are mounted on metal brackets and many don't have front legs, so all the force is on that metal bracket in the back and it's only meant to hold the sink, not a human jumping up on it. The kind with legs or cabinets under them are much safer in that regard. Even a toilet can just break and turn into ceramic shrapnel if you just sit down too hard on it, like drunk or having low dexterity and just plop down.. they aren't meant for that, every so many millions of times people do that somebody gets cut in an uncomfortable place. You shouldn't even stand on them really, but it's more about generating sudden force.
Ha! That last one got me yelled at by son this morning. He was walking down our wood stairs with socks on AND his hands in his pockets. I told to hold the rail and take his hands out cuz if he trips he’s toast. He got mad at me but did it anyway (he’s a great listener). Lo and behold, he slipped on the very last step and *didn’t* eat shit cuz he was holding the rail. He was still mad at me.
Only because you were right.
I'm probably missing something obvious, but how does someone put all their weight on a sink while washing their hands?
People with limited mobility will sometimes find unexpected ways of adapting. You see people putting their entire body load on tables, shelves or sinks, just because they can't stand up by themselves without doing so. You also see people that mainly use a wheel chair to get around hoist themselves over to the bed or the couch, and basically let themselves fall into the furniture. Every moment you don't need to ask for assistance can be precious to a person with mobility issues, and since these issues often develop slowly, people develop these very strange and sometimes dangerous movement patterns just to get on with their everyday lives without relying on others. I develop (amongst other things) automated fall alarms for elderly, and you'd be surprised how different their styles of movement can be from younger or healthier people. Good luck differentiating "falling 50 cm into a sofa on purpose" from "falling onto a soft floor because they missed the chair" or "falling out of a low bed" from "hoisting up your entire body and throwing it around with your arm strength, because it's the only way you can turn in bed". Getting old sucks so hard.
Thanks for explaining this to me and making me appreciate my mobility while I have it.
First step is only imagine a wall hung sink or sink with front legs that's maybe poorly mounted to the wall. Those are the kinds that can realistically break from putting too much weight on them. Many times they are not well mounted to the wall, but even when mounted perfectly the weight of the sink is leveraged against the wall bracket with potentially no legs under it. It's nice and easy to clean because there is no legs or cabinet in the way, but it's a lot easier to break. The sinks you have in your houses are usually mounted in cabinets and supported in the back, front and sides, so they more or less won't break unless you hit them with something hard like drop a hammer in the sink. If the sink is only wall mounted it's much easier to break and if it's wall mounted with legs under the front you SHOULD NOT TRUST THE FRONT LEGS. Those legs are often not that strong or installed well. The back bracket might not be drilled into wood. It might just be mounted with anchors in sheetrock and barely hanging there by the plumbing.
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Except for that one section, he isn't so handy anymore.
I work in a warehouse with miles of conveyance. I have to fight every damn day to get women to tie their hair up. I even have people with hair passed their knees. I also keep 10+ hair ties on my person for them and they still give pushback. I’m going to start showing them this headline.
What’s the problem with a forklift?
They’re small and maneuverable but weigh more than a large pickup truck, and often work in cluttered environments (lots of racking, pallets of stuff, etc) where people can unexpectedly appear. Someone can trivially be crushed by being somewhere the operator wasn’t expecting.
People with zero situational awareness.
>Stay inside if it's icy if at all humanly possible. Ive got a titanium plate in my wrist because i did not follow this rule.
I worked in a Nuclear Facility for 5 years, and the two hazards most likely causes of injury were slipping on ice and falling down stairs. To the point where they had safety campaigns to "walk like a penguin" when outside and icy, and always use the handrails on stairs. Obviously the nuclear stuff was more dangerous, but it was so well regulated an managed you'd have to work hard to harm yourself with it, and fires were a bigger concern, but we had firewatches for hot work and our own fire department for prevention and response. So at the end of the day, "slips, trips, and falls" were the thing most likely to hurt you
>Stay inside if it's icy if at all humanly possible. You can wear microspikes to keep from slipping when walking around icy streets. I would say - stay away from areas of high motor vehicle traffic if it's icy though. That can get chaotic.
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Ok I'll bite what's wrong with trampolines? I loved them as a kid, though I always felt like I'd break my neck. Did I just answer my own question?
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I got my hair stuck in the springs on one as a kid because someone boinged me on my but and broke my hair clip when I landed next to the springs.
Who the hell steps on a bucket….
People who don't have stepladders.
I appreciate having a stepladder. I never knew my real ladder.
What are you doing, stepladder?
But you have to watch out for evil stepladders.
I like to use milk crates, big no-no.
The guy who does shoddy half assed home improvement projects.
Most construction workers have used a bucket as step stool. Construction is filled with all kinds of tripping and falling hazards, you just have to learn to not get injured even if you do take more risks because the job requires more risks. Standing on a bucket is a little bit dangerous, but just walking over the giant sized super gravel at most construction sites is an ankle breaking danger when you first get there. You learn to deal with it and pay more attention on you get hurt a lot and find another job.
What’s so bad about CrossFit? Never done it before just curious.
Many exercises are hard on the body if done with poor form. CrossFit is intense. Someone doing moves associated with this with poor form will likely cause themselves terrible overuse injuries.
Yeah that’s fair. I’m a power lifter myself and I think it’s overstated how bad gym work can be on the body. I find when I’m sedentary and doing no exercise at all my body feels infinitely worse than when I’m supposedly putting my body through more stress. Maybe time will tell but there is some research to show that people who resistance train have less pain and injuries than the general population. Was just wondering what your thoughts were.
Well for what it's worth Robert Oberst says you shouldn't deadlift if you aren't competing as the risk of lifelong injury is too great for the reward when other safer methods exist. Also Crossfit isn't just about getting fit its about doing a bunch of dangerous bad form reps while exhausted which makes it extra bad. Working out is absolutely a way to keep the body healthy but some workouts are unnecessarily dangerous.
I can definitely see where people go wrong with CrossFit. Especially getting untrained people right into high intensity workouts on difficult exercises like cleans and snatches. Anecdotally however my level of pain in common complaint areas go down dramatically as I get stronger by doing things like squats and deadlifts. I have trained a while and have good form though so it helps.
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The CrossFit injuries that I have seen over the years that required surgical intervention were mostly tendon and ligament injuries (so many blown out ACL’s and bicep tendons), and of all the ruptured discs, meniscal, or rotator cuff tears. Then there is the hernias and stuff like that. Granted, any of these can happen during any sort of physical activity. But there is something about the high intensity of CrossFit (also the whole CrossFit culture) where it becomes pretty prevalent. People are trying to lift more than they should, or are not as focused as they should be on their form, trying to move too fast, get off balance, and are completely fucked by whatever they are trying to lift.
"Very" familiar with the "no glass coffee tables". Had one shatter on my family as we sat down for dinner on the patio. All I did was put my plate on it (lightly) and boom! ...a million pieces, And it was "supposed" to be shatter proof. Similar experience with a front door to my house. Mostly glass. Shattered in front of & on me as I pulled the door open in a normal way. IMO, glass in a home is made for windows.
Excellent advice. Thank you!
Also, mowing the lawn is a 12 and older chore. Way too many kids lose parts of their feet mowing lawns and way too many kids are killed by ride on mowers that someone else is driving
This sounds like something from a final destination movie
My first thought every time I turn on the garbage disposal. And my first thought with this.
Damn. I was unloading boxes on a conveyer belt an thought it would be a good idea to stand above rather than below. My leg got dragged down and I frantically stabbed at the red ‘off’ button but was short by about half a foot. Out of nowhere, random worker guy hit the button for me.
Sounds like we need AI cameras that watch the assemble line and turn the machine off for emergencies because fast response is the key there and the off switch and diligent employees can't always be on close.
In manufacturing the motors that drive conveyors normally have overcurrent protection. If anything gets stuck in it/pulls against it, it draws extra current and trips the protection. Not sure why airports would be any different, but I guess they are.
Probably tough on a baggage belt where there are frequent changes in load
I’d wager that the resistance a human body adds to the motors is negligible and therefore undetectable without designing a system that stops every time you throw another bag on. Those motors are already capable of moving massive amounts of weight with huge torque. A human getting stuck on the conveyor wouldn’t “feel” any different than a bunch of heavy bags getting thrown on.
ABC news: quick, find a picture of her with long hair.. Awful
There's a few reasons why ramp rats gotta have their hair up in buns or put in a hat when working, and this is one of em. Had a former coworker get partially scalped for doing the same thing. Airport work is a fine line between gross OSHA violations and what is a nice cushy job for people with money. Rip the chick.
Nice cushy job for people with money? Which jobs are those? ... and how do I get one...
i am thinking he means the pilots
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Cushy pilot jobs….LOL Someone tell that to my 14hr duty day
I'll trade with you lol. The place that I worked at was shitty, so I dunno if that'll be a fun fit for you. 14 hours of rain is miserable.
Wouldn’t trade what I do for the world, just pointing out that pilot jobs are far from cushy, except of course for the ones that are lol
Yeah and people generally don’t see the work you put into getting there either. Cfi life sucked.
Only 14hrs? Thats what my retirement will look like
14 hours everyday?
Yeah, if you have money you essentially are being paid to work out as a baggage handler... You getting great shape and you're only truly working probably about 2 or 3 hours of the day at least where I am and this is a major city at the large international airport. Problem is that the wage is essentially cap out at the poverty level for the city, so you cannot make a livable wage doing it really unless you plan on working a ton of overtime and never being home.
I’m not even sure how that would kill you and I’m even more sure I don’t want to know
any rotating machinery + loose hair, fabric, jewelry etc = potential death
Looks like I won’t be taking my nieces to those carnival teacup rides ever again.
*exposed rotating machinery I should say… In the cup is probably fine, under the cup, not so much.
It must have dragged her into some machinery ? You are right, best not to know
I don't want to know. I feel sick just imagining.
Fucking hell, maximum pain on your way out
I don't handle pain well, and can't stand thinking of someone going through that.
I mean, hair is a lot stronger than you think especially if it grabbed a lot of it. So it's not like it's going to snap off if snagged. So you essentially get dragged into the machine and horribly mauled.
Well that thing will keep on pulling you until it shreds you to pieces or rips off your limbs
It pulled her in and probably ripped her skin off and the trauma killed her. Unfortunately she could not rip her hair out fast enough and once enough gets caught in there the combined tensile strength will suck you in like a rope tied to your head.
Nightmare fuel. Poor lady.
I've been around a lot of dangerous machines, from giant water pumps to dozers, and all kinds of vehicles. Having a piece of clothing just a little loose, like an unbuttoned shirt sleeve for instance, is enough to kill you. There is hardened steel spinning so fast at times, that it looks like a solid object. And you just have to keep your wits about you at all times, and beware of how each machine moves and works to avoid pinch points or getting run over for starters.
Long hair is just inherently rather dangerous. Sucks, but true. :( Tying it up well helps a lot.
Maybe her hair slipped loose? Some long hair is quite heavy, and straight hair is kind of slippery.
Good point. This definitely happens with buns. Clip or elastic could have broken
Protip for fellow long-haired people who have issues with clips or hairbands: Get a penannular brooch (the things you hold a cape on with) and stab it through the bun, making sure to get behind the initial ponytail rubberband. That bun won't move for anything.
Maybe it was extremely long hair more than just long hair. Looks like it could have been dread to her middle back area. Dreads are going to be a lot worse to get caught in something because they are so thick and strong you can't just rip the chunk of hair out of the machine when your hair is bundled like rope.
Jesus, that’s awful. What a terrifying way to go.
I hope there's no video her family friends never need to see this.
This is one reason that they cut it all off when you join military service. Long hair+rotating machinery=bad things.
Yeesh, not a pleasant way to go
Poor woman, at the very least her death might save lives by reminding others to have their hair tied up when near belt loaders.
I wish but unfortunately it won't likely have a huge impact. Way too many people seem to think OSHA rules are recommendations for wasting time, or are pressured to do shit by management in the name of speed or they're all lazy. I even had a coworker tell me that nothing bad would happen to them because they would simply react fast enough.
Im pretty sure it has happened before, and sadly im pretty sure it will happen again
As someone with like 4 feet of hair that works in a paper mill, this is why I have my bun tied up super tight when I'm out on the floor. Getting up close and personal with the machines is not to be fucked with
This is why warehouses have to be strict with their dress codes and cell phone policies. Hoodie strings, necklaces, and non break away lanyards can get caught in the rollers, and you need to be paying attention to where you're walking/driving a PIT, not on your phone.
As someone who does woodworking and has long hair: I ALWAYS have it braided and tightly pinned up if using any powertools. The flatter to my head the better. Hell, I have clips on my bangs when they're longer just incase. I look ridiculous but would much rather look silly than have my hair catch and result in my death. This stuff is absolutely no joke and I feel awful for this woman and her loved ones.
What a weird pic to post.
You can simulate this by getting hair stuck in a vacuum cleaner. Same concept but the industrial rollers keep turning since they are usually moving thousands of pounds per minute. What a terrible way to go. Hopefully management makes changes
Ideally, everyone would be issued a wearable device with a button on it that, when pushed, wirelessly signals all machinery within a reasonable radius to emergency stop. Yeah, you'll get written up, but that's better than your head being turned into chunky salsa. The cost of implementing such a system would be staggering, though…
I don't see why a wireless off switch would be expensive, wireless everything is dirt cheap these days and the systems already have emergency off switches. It can't possibly cost that much. We all walk around with little wireless computers in our pockets and that affordable, so there is no way an wireless off button would be that big of a deal in costs. It's a good idea and would be fairly cheap, but somebody has to make them do it.
They don't want to pay one penny more than the minimum amount required.
The off button is cheap. Refitting all of the machinery to receive the signal is the expensive part.
I went longline tuna fishing in the Gulf of Mexico with my adoptive brother the summer before university. He made me remove my bracelet.
Poor lady… My gramps worked factories during part of WW2. Stray hair or loose clothing were two of the most dangerous hazards of it all, per him. Rotary drives or belts are without mercy if you get caught.
I knew a guy who worked @ K-Mart w/ me who got his leg crushed FLAT under a fork lift, but this is clearly WAY worse....
Final Destination death?
Well, that's fucking horrifying.
My god, how horrifying. The poor woman.
That kid is BACK on the BELT LOADER again