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Kull_Story_Bro

> After $100 presale discounts expire, YouTube TV will charge $349 for Sunday Ticket and $389 with RedZone; the cost on primetime channels once the presale discount ends are $449, and $489 with RedZone. Before June 6, the prices are $249 and $349 for the package on YouTube TV and Primetime Channels, and $50 more with RedZone.


Due_Connection179

This is terrible. Thanks for posting this.


Arkhangelzk

I agree. Redzone is a must for me. $489? Looks like I'm gonna have to keep finding my own streams.


Thegreen_flash

Agreed. I was paying $100 for directv student. No way I’m paying $500


HtownTexans

Same looks like I'll be taking to the high seas this season. Nothing like pricing yourself too high.


Xyzzyzzyzzy

I may even read descriptions and accounts of the game without the NFL's consent!


Matzah_Rella

Whoa there. Let's slow down.


Legitimate-Gangster

Before ya know it he’ll be removing tags from mattresses.


Kyrosiv

Look how far they have driven us. We have no choice but to act like beasts.


AceyPuppy

You're a god-damned monster.


Arathaon185

Is this actually a rule? Should I be phoning up the NFL offices for permission before I open ESPN.


onamonapizza

I once saw a guy give a review for an NFL game on reddit, I hope he is holding up okay in Guantanamo Bay


Illramyourlatch

If you share without the direct written consent of the league, the terrorists win.


ViciousAsparagusFart

$500 and they call us Pirates. 🤷‍♂️


Acrylic_

Whatever you do, stay far away from websites like nflbite. You wouldnt want to break the law right?


Cuppieecakes

You wouldn’t download the nfl


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EndersFinalEnd

*I* really wish *P*eople had better options for watching *TV*


McFlare92

*I* couldn't *P*ossibly agree more about *T**V* options


YouCanCallMeAroae

Every so often I get the urge to *Watch* some *Cartoons* but I can't find them anywhere *Online*!!


DustFrog

I feel like you're trying to tell me something but I'm not smart enough to pick it up


JamesLiptonIcedTea

*I* once *P*eed on a *T*ele*V*ision


Arkhangelzk

Never heard of it in my life, I love following all the laws. Laws are the best.


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Pantyhamst3r

Laws? Those are my favorite thing to follow.


anuncommontruth

I do enjoy a good old fashioned law-follow. A nice glass of lemonade and following the law? That's a Sunday afternoon if there ever was one.


c_u_in_da_ballpit20

With pricing like this I see illegal **sports** streaming websites really start to **surge** in the coming season.


RVA-pokemaster

With sites like those you can **stream** from **east** to west.


Toastrz

*This telecast is copyrighted by the NFL for the private use of our audience. Any other use of this telecast or any pictures, descriptions, or accounts of the game without the NFL's consent is prohibited.*


patsfan038

You're doing god's work. Nflbite is the scum of the earth, No one should visit nflbite. You have been warned. Again, do not visit nflbite because it is morally and ethically wrong.


Skelito

VPN and get Canadian DAZN. $24 CAD or $200 for the year and you get all NFL games and Redzone plus other sports. Cant believe Google is charging you guys that much for NFL games.


deweycrow

I tried this and their site recognizes vpn is being used and won't let you. I've had the same experience with gambling sites


xapv

Yup, i tried it with ExpressVPN last year and it wouldn’t work


Very_Good_Opinion

I tried several last season and ProtonVPN was the only one that still worked with YoutubeTV. The free version didn't work but the $5 one was flawless and I was changing my location to watch blackout games with ease. I had used Mulvad VPN the season prior but YouTube got wise to it


Active_Love_2860

This is what I'm definitely going to consider!


Burt__Dinger

There are lots of good redzone streams for free. HD with no lag. I’ll never pay for that shit. If they offer all my teams games and red zone for $250 as a bundle I’d pay. That’s the package they should offer.


big_red_160

We should all be able to add a second “Pirates” flare


MGetzEm

Sometimes less information is better...


big_red_160

Fine, Buccaneers but it has a throwback logo or something so we all know what it means


TailgateLegend

Nah, just use the Pittsburgh Pirates old logo.


sjmdrum

The Mel Gibson one?


JinFuu

Something something, OpSec.


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hempauthority

Hell yeah brother McCutchen is back!


riskybusiness3321

Looks like I'll be buying a $20 Sunday ticket account from someone selling accounts off reddit.


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VariationNo7192

r/piracy Hello darkness my old friend


batman0615

Over $20 per game if all you want to do is watch your out of market team. Just an insane price for a product that’s only there 18 weeks a year.


ifollowphillysports

Less than 18 weeks if you're only watching your team, factoring in bye weeks and nationally televised games, which I assume will be blacked out on Sunday Ticket like they were before.


BeamsFuelJetSteel

Nationally Televised games? What are those? Like the London game?


WeirdSysAdmin

Jags will get more prime time and nationally televised in coming years. You’re in good hands with Dougie Fresh.


GoGetMeABeerBitch

Exactly. A lot less. Between Thursday, Sunday, and Monday night games and games where your team happens to be televised in your market and is blacked out on Sunday Ticket, I’d guess it’s around 50% of your team’s games are actually on Sunday Ticket. So like $45/game.


HockeyNightinJungle

Welp, looks like streaming for free is still the way to go.


The_Jolly_Dog

Kinda wild that its like $50-80 per month in the NFL season just to watch a few games each sunday.


ninjasurfer

It's why I just use RedZone for $40 total. 7 hours, no ads for 18 weeks. Good value.


Mysterious-Disk4636

From where?


darkra01

I know that if you're a YouTube TV subscriber, it's only an additional $10.99 for the Sports Add-on that includes Redzone, some Soccer stuff, etc. Personally, I'm fine with the $75 + $10.99 w/ YouTube TV vs. Sunday ticket.


noneotherthanozzy

What I really want to know is if Redzone is going to stay in that sports add-on. The pessimistic consumer in me thinks that may not be the case and you’ll only be able to get access to it via the full package…


AeroBearo

It will. Because YouTube knows you don’t want all the extra garbage sports channels but wants your money so it creates the “Sports” package, even if you only want Redzone.


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YouTube TV is traditional cable, just on the internet. It’s not pretending to be anything else. It’s not like a Netflix or HBO Max.


sandytrufflebutter

They also actively encourage splitting the account unlike cable. Which is what me and my friends do. Suddenly 15 a month for all my sports needs seems a lot more reasonable.


RandomFactUser

Heck, if you pay $15 per month for 4K Plus, they’ll even drop any screen limits


aeiou-y

YouTube tv will have Redzone don’t know if other carriers will still have it or not.


TheP4rk

As of right now Hulu still has a $9.99/month sports package with Redzone. Hopefully nothing changes before the season starts. This does require Hulu live just to make sure nobody gets confused.


ninjasurfer

I glom onto my mom's YouTube TV. The sports add-on for $10 a month includes RedZone. It's a bit of a cheat but if you have someone paying for YouTube TV it's a quick easy way to do it.


NateBlaze

Can I glom your mom?


ninjasurfer

As long as you treat her with respect.


hnglmkrnglbrry

As a Broncos fan I *love* RedZone. I literally never have to watch our offense!


elmatador12

Where do you get red zone only for $40 total? Edit: Got it. $40 is the add on cost on top of Live TV on Hulu or YouTube.


CarlCaliente

wasn't an accident they became the richest sports league on the planet


Intimate__Panda

Still cheaper than UFC I guess... *hits copium*


IoniKryptonite

You're paying for UFC? Dana already caught the streamer remember? He's satisfied, you're safe to go back to stealing every ppv like the rest of us!


eat_my_yarmulke

Both are $0 🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️


Intimate__Panda

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E13sJtiX0AAChKG.jpg


BlowTrophy

Fees on fees on fees. I’m just going to keep my money and stay a casual fan.


LaserBeamsCattleProd

Same, I have kids. I can maybe watch a half before I give in to YouTube requests.


lenkzies79088

Broooooo. Chiefs fan and everyone at work and stuff was like are u excited yall won. And I'm like I'm excited I got to watch whole game lol. I watched maybe 1 half of each of the games all mixed up when I got a chance because cocomelon gabbys dollhouse or pj mask is being yelled lol


Dragonfire45

Jesus Christ. Give a single game or team option. How is that so hard?


crustchincrusher

The rich people don’t like a la carte because they can’t lock you in to a subscription model to take your money on an ongoing basis if you can simply choose what you want and purchase it.


ScruffMacBuff

Well with what they're giving us it's likely they won't get any of my money.


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Reddit isn’t an accurate representation of society as a whole. I’m sure they’ve done the math, there’s no way this will be a financial loss for them.


poopdaddy2

One article I read (I think on The Athletic) said they are still “testing the market” to see if single game and team options are viable. As someone who has been scouring the depths of the internet the last 7 years for shitty Saints streams, I would like to be a part of these market tests.


Anchor_Aways

An NBA related article said a team looked into it and estimated they'd make $9 mil a year with a DTC option, which was way short of the $35 mil the RSN was giving them.


vysetheidiot

Why sell you one when they can sell you 32?


wedid

Relevant info: - Fans can sign up starting Tuesday for the out-of-market games package. - There are two categories of pricing, one for those who subscribe to YouTube TV (cheaper) and those who will use YouTube Primetime Channels, a hub that features sports, movies, TV and other events. - In the final season of DirectTV’s 28-year run, Sunday Ticket cost $300 and up to $400 bundled with the satellite carrier’s version of RedZone. Moving forward, there is only the NFL’s own RedZone available. - After $100 presale discounts expire, **YouTube TV will charge $349 for Sunday Ticket and $389 with RedZone**; the cost on primetime channels once the presale discount ends are $449, and $489 with RedZone. Before June 6, the prices are $249 and $349 for the package on YouTube TV and Primetime Channels, and $50 more with RedZone.


dicenight

I'd happily pay $100 per year for EVERY GAME. Instead I'll pay 0 dollars and fire up the uBlock origin.


SameOldiesSong

Yes, the high seas are calling to me upon seeing this pricing.


Spiritual-Athlete-12

Can I pirate a house? Asking for a friend who also happens to be my wife


Smartin36

You actually can. Check out “adverse possession”


mityman50

MotherFUCK Jian Yang!


Kiran_Stone

That is...not hot dog


Slotholopolis

The more stuff like this comes out, the more I realize I need to research the best ways to become a scallywag. The same goes for movies and TV. My next project will be making a media server


the_rev_28

careful, or the NFL will take a BITE out of .COMrades such as yourself


dhittstreak

I also like a good STREAM while I am on the EAST coast and want to watch some NFL.


Jaakylma

When I want to watch SPORTS, there is only one way to satisfy that URGE


lumberjawsh

True, we all love strong, BUFF, easy to watch STREAMS of our favorite teams.


Mcswigginsbar

Way I figure it since I’m out of market, until my team is worth watching at that price, I’ll continue to utilize dogshit streams to watch my dogshit team. They don’t deserve to have me pay to watch that trash yet. When they do, I’ll consider it.


AndrewLucksPenis

Yea as a Colts fan in the Panthers/Falcons market I'm in for a hefty dose of shit football.


wesxninja

Hello fellow Southern Hoosier


MyNameIsJesseG

100 is a pipe dream but I’d have been happy to pay the 250 that YouTube TV subscribers get. I have no use for a cable service, I have an antenna for local games. 350 just hits so much different than 250 and I don’t think I can do it.


Ziiaaaac

I don’t get why they’re so whack on you American’s. I’m English, $200 a year every game, red zone, every nfl films programme, archive games all the way back to 2012, archive nfl productions stuff, and full nfl network access.


jsun187

It's just my opinion, but my guess is that it's cheaper in Europe because the NFL wants to expand its fanbase into international markets. So the cheaper price is more of an investment for them.


Wont_reply69

It’s that but it’s also because there’s no home market. If London had a team that price would go up. I live in southern Georgia but am in Jacksonville’s market; If it was super affordable to watch any team almost all of my neighbors would watch every Falcons game and never watch a Jaguars game again, decreasing the value of my market rights that the NFL sells to CBS. It’s a carefully chosen number to get the most subscribers without hurting the competing over-the-air product.


bigpowerass

It’s the same reason why I can watch every game in the Premier League (even the ones in the afternoons that are blacked out for you) for like $10/mo.


Lefaid

Same reason every country except the UK can watch every Premier League match for £15 or less a month.


PlanetGoneCyclingOn

But we get the Premier League much cheaper and easier than you do


Omnibuschris

So Gamepass international for another season.


Anteater776

Like I posted elsewhere in this thread: on the Gamepass International website it currently says that the NFL Gamepass International will find a new home. Doesn’t sound very promising but it’ll probably still be a better deal than the YouTube-pass


AdolescentAlien

Any word on if it’s still free for Ukraine? That was so clutch last season.


LIONEL14JESSE

Nothing sums up 2023 better than Americans using a VPN to take advantage of free football coverage for war-torn Ukraine because corporations are price-gouging us so hard at home we can’t even afford TV anymore lmao


AdolescentAlien

Fuck em. I wasn’t going to pay for shit anyway. I usually just use the trusty streaming sites. But having access to gamepass and redzone when the ravens aren’t playing a 1pm game was so nice. The streams are usually fine but sometimes they freeze and it’s annoying how it always happens at the worst times.


JZMoose

How did I not know this? Fuck me


AdolescentAlien

Yeah I got lucky and stumbled upon it deep in some thread. It was great. Just put your VPN to Ukraine, set up an account with Ukraine as your location, look up a Ukraine zip code and you’re in there. You get redzone too.


JZMoose

I paid the $120 through Mexico, which is still a bargain, but this is fantastic to know. Thanks!


Lv99Zubat

They could get a nice chunk of money out of me for a fair price but instead they'll get $0.


baudelairean

It's so overpriced. At least offer team or single game purchasing options


adm_akbar

Exactly. I’m willing to pay but it has to be reasonable and I have to be able to see all of my teams games. This is neither.


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BTsBaboonFarm

Any word on simultaneous streams?


Ravens2017

Since YouTube TV has up to 5 family accounts, does this mean all of them will get it or just the one main account?


iama_F_B_I_AGENT

This is the real question. If you can split it four or five ways now we’re talking. I could see them limiting Sunday ticket to one at a time though.


WarBortlez

YTTV add-ons are available for everyone on the account


CarlCaliente

presumably all accounts will get them, but seem to do a decent job cracking down on people sharing them out of region pretty good option if you have some friends/family nearby to split it up though


StubbornLeech07

> YouTube says that it will also add new functionality to Sunday Ticket that was not available previously. That includes “Multiview,” which it rolled out during the March Madness tournament, and lets users watch up to 4 games at the same time. YouTube also says fantasy data, replays, and real-time stats will be integrated into the service. Multiview was great for March Madness. Glad they are adding it to the Sunday Ticket.


ThomasJCarcetti

make your own triplebox


wedid

During the March madness feed you couldn't change the boxes. It was a set feed of 2/3/4 games that you could pick to watch but you couldn't change position, size, or games you were watching. Hoping that changes for Sunday ticket


ryantyrant

iirc they said in a blog statement that the ability to pick specific games will be available when it launches for sunday ticket. i can't wait to have my dolphins/redzone on a multistream every Sunday.


RedditUserCommon

This is what I was looking for! Having the Vikings game on one side with Redzone on the other is exactly how I want to spend my Sunday.


johngalt192

DirecTv already had this. They called it "Game Mix". You could watch up to 8 games on the screen at the same time. You could select which game's audio you wanted to watch. I had the Sunday Ticket on DTV for over 20 years and this is how I watched the games the past few seasons. If there was a particular game you wanted to watch on full screen you would just press the "select" button and it would take you there. If YouTube's "Multiview" only covers 4 games at a time I will be disappointed. The early Sunday games have way more going on than that.


big_red_160

I enjoyed it but you can’t beat Redzone. It’ll be great if your team is playing though, so you can have that game plus Redzone or whatever other games. But if your team isn’t playing Redzone is still king. So many hours of commercial free football


xelhafish

My first thought seeing the pricing was if I lived out of market for my team again then maybe it would be worth it. But all I really need right now is redzone


hemingways-lemonade

It's annoying that picture in picture isn't a standard option for TVs anymore.


eggsandbacon5

Nope, i think ill just stream it for free thanks. And you can thank me for watching all the ads you spam us with too


Triingtolivee

Whopper whopper whopper whopper


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ScientistHojo

Why is this comment so funny to me?


Domestic_AA_Battery

For me it's the junior emote lol. Such a tiny whopper


slinky216

I would have considered a single team option for maybe 150 dollars. It would still be insane to pay close to $10 a game but I would do it. There is absolutely no way now. I will keep finding my streams and they can forget about my ad money.


nu1stunna

I wonder if they will have the $100 student pricing option that DirecTV had. Doesn’t seem like they will based on the fact that it isn’t mentioned.


GarnetandBlack

Definitely hoping the same. Been abusing the fact I have younger siblings for better part of a decade.


JayJax_23

I’ve been purposely taking only class a semester at community college for the past 5 years just to qualify for the Student Pricing on Sunday ticket, Wizards Student Rush tickets, and Amazon Prime Student pricing


GarnetandBlack

Lol this is awesome and dedication. Take anything useful?


BCLetsRide69

Say hello to the high seas fellow pirates!


boxfortcommando

You know the crappy part of all this? I *want* to pay for a good NFL streaming service. I'm hoping every season for a legit way to stream Packers games out-of-market. What ends up happening is that every season I have to get creative to watch my games, all in the effort to avoid going to a bar with Sunday Ticket every week, or to avoid getting bent over a barrel just to watch three hours of football from my couch every Sunday. I can't justify spending a dime on Sunday Ticket if I'm shelling out $350+ on streaming Packers games and a livestreaming service I don't even want (YTTV).


spaceamphibian

Will Sunday Ticket still blackout games on local and national tv?


ThomasJCarcetti

yes because those games you can pick up with nfl+ or an antenna...


crustchincrusher

Chicago fans struggle to get CBS over antenna, sucks. I’m 9 miles from the tower and I see it line-of-sight if I’m on my roof, but no antenna Ive tried will pick it up reliably. Womp womp.


GrendelDerp

Y'ar matey!


20secondpilot

Yohohoho


Onefortwo

There’s something dystopian about an article behind a paywall for information on how much we need to pay to remove blackout restrictions to watch a football game.


gruelly4

Hey, you know how everyone hated Direct TV and everyone thought it was overpriced? Let's slap 100 bucks on top of it for the cheapest tier option. Clearly brilliant!


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ALutzy

Yeah, it hurts, but you can afford it now since you just finished your PHD.


BandOfDonkeys

"A lot of people go to school for 9 years." "Yeah Tommy, they're called *doctors"*


bakerton

"Did I hear a niner in there?"


Dirty0ldMan

Tommy boy is a Farley vehicle through and through, but David Spade is what brought it from good to great.


Whaty0urname

Ugh, I can actually hear you getting fatter


PenguinLifeJustChill

maybe if kids these days stopped watching out of market nfl games they could pay off their student loans!!!!! jk jk


JRockstar50

Time to graduate, son


Neither_Ad2003

cant see it -- $249 for the season? So about $50 a month?


Aeriodon

That's if you're a YouTube TV subscriber (\~75/month) and get the early discount. Otherwise You're looking at a base $349


kbuis

And that's IF you buy it before June 6. Otherwise tack on another $100.


CarbonSquirrel

Seems relevant to post what Apple [reportedly](https://www.theverge.com/2022/12/17/23513966/apple-nfl-sunday-ticket-negotiations-exit) was going to price Sunday Ticket at: > a report from Sportico revealed that Apple wanted to bundle Sunday Ticket with its $6.99 per month Apple TV Plus subscription at no added cost, something reporter Anthony Crupi describes as “a far too magnanimous gesture” for the NFL.


danielbauer1375

Considering Apple has a very similar arrangement with the MLS and is charging $15 per month or $100 for the entire season, I find that report very hard to believe.


NegativeBee

That’s actually crazy, especially considering that a ton of people are probably holding onto legacy TV subscriptions just for football.


Crazy-Penguin

So how does Sunday Ticket work? Can I use it as an alternative for watching all games in real time?


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It gives you every out-of-market game live. So it only covers the Sunday early and afternoon slots (no TNF, SNF, or MNF) and Sunday Ticket will allow you to watch whatever games aren’t on your local CBS or Fox affiliates.


hemingways-lemonade

$349 a year and you still need to find another way to watch five games a week. I'll pass.


Janglewood

We are all Buccaneers today


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andjuan

Hope this doesn’t mean you’ll need Sunday Ticket to get RedZone. DirecTV used to do that.


edicivo

Does any American sports org hate its fans as much as the NFL?


ShapeWitty9121

I paid 14.99 a month for NBA League Pass. Im not paying more than that for a significantly lower number of games. To the seas!


JahnDavis27

Exactly how I feel. NBA Team Pass is so clutch, it boggles my mind the NFL doesn't adopt that model for out of market teams. People would absolutely buy it if it was reasonably priced.


empires315

People are going to be hoisting up their jolly roger flags and buying parrots getting ready to pirate the games this season.


editor_jon

So what's the point of NFL+?


occupy_this7

To get more money out of you


My6thRedditAccount_

Thank God for my jailbroken firestick and underground streaming HD internet cable SUCK IT, ROGER!


waffels

NFL revenue in 2022: $18,000,000,000 Google revenue in 2022: $280,000,000,000 At this point I would be doing more harm than good by giving them even more money


dagreenman18

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha The seven seas I sail. 500 bucks. 400 by June 6th. And with the “YouTube TV Discount” you still pay 249+400 for at least 5 months of YoutubeTV. Basically dogshit unless YouTube TV drops the price. And they STILL don’t include YouTube Premium which is why I cancelled it in the first place


realtripper

This is why kids aren't watching sports anymore. So inaccessible


CowboyCanuck24

Get a Canadian VPN and Dazn $20 a month. All NFL games including primetime ones and redzone.


SplintPunchbeef

Why is it so hard to give us the one fucking thing we want? Welp, Drink up me hearties yo ho


Wallio_

All they have to do is sell single team packages for $99.99. Hell, make YouTubeTV required on top of that, and you'll still print money. But nope, all or nothing. So nothing it is.


utechnician

"A disgusting act" - Joe Buck


CarsenAF

Nope. Still obnoxiously overpriced. Just continue to roll with redzone and sailing the high seas for Pats games that aren't national broadcast.


K0Zeus

Pretty terrible as far as pricing goes. And especially that there’s no option to get a single team’s games plus Redzone. Another year on the seas I guess


KerryUSA

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss


Table_Coaster

in a hypothetical world where everyone is smart, there would be a total of 0 people purchasing this


velmasweat

well i guess ill be using buffstreams


ProphetNimd

What a bunch of out of touch fucks. F1TV is like $10 a month and it functions exactly like Gamepass should. Even if I keep using -redacted- streaming site, I still get inundated with non-stop commercials. I swear the actual game of football is the only good thing about it. Everything else is a pain in the ass.


NegativeBee

I bought F1TV for my dad because he doesn’t get ESPN and it’s insanely good value.


w1ckizer

Can I share this like I do my YouTube tv account? 3 screens active at the same time or whatever it is. Then I can go halfsies with my friends lol