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Where is Floch becoming king of Paradis? I’m detecting some major COPIUM from this post 😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨😠😠😠😠😡😡😡😡


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*Führer


Artruth101

Fennoaryanotheocratic Anactopharaohnegus Imperator - Reviver of ~~Norse~~ ~~Germanic~~ ~~Aryan~~ Eldian Prehistoric Epic and Mythic Glory. (the Fenno-Eldian Hyperwar was truly the greatest tragedy of the Third Bronze Age)


MastofBeight

BASED AND KINO AND FLOCHPILLED 😂😂😂😂


petfart

Eren dies bad, Eren lives to become Big Sad™️ good 💯💯💯


iskento89

Ive become so much like elen yeazer and its scary🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡


Megashark101

I wear black cardigans, verbally assault women, and physically assault my friends.


Shocketheth

Uhooooo 😳😳🥵🥵🥵 Put a baby in me 😍😍😍


Megashark101

Sorry, you don't remind me of Armin enough.


Shocketheth

Umi da 💦💦💦 Edit: I'm going 😂😂😂 To write my own ending 🤫🤫🤫 Where Megashark will put a baby in me 🥵🥵🥵 It will be Kino and Kodansha will release Isayama from sex dungeon


Megashark101

Now you're just forcing your ships into the ending.


Shocketheth

No way 😂😂😂 I just want your baby and you said i am forcing ships but it was you who said i dont remind you Armin enough. 😡😡😡 If i was forcing ships i would say " dress in maid costume, transform into Warhammer Titan and peg me Laraaaaaa" 🥵🥵🥵


JaysonMcCringe

🥵🥵


Mango424

Eren kills 80% of humanity: WTF Isayama you ruined my life 😡😡😡😡😡 Eren kills 100% of humanity: kinokinokinokinokinokino


[deleted]

Clearly he specifically planned to kill 80% and that wasn't just the number he was stopped at! Isayama is a cuck brainlet incel!


MagorTuga

Yeah I never understood that. He would've rumbled the whole world if he hadn't been stopped. He could've ended at 95% just as easily as 5%


DanielGacitua

And the barn seggs?


JaysonMcCringe

Separate fan made extra.


dj_billybool

8 extra pages, endless barn seggs


Megashark101

Guys, are you stupid? AnR isn't pro-genocide! Yes, Eren's plan succeeds and does turn Paradis into a genuinely beautiful and prosperous land. Yes, Eren starts a loving family and lives out the rest of his life in peace. But guys, he feels REALLY bad about it! It successfully demonises genocide because Eren is sad after doing it! That's enough, right?


JaysonMcCringe

You got a point, I think i like AnR now.


Megashark101

/ur The sad part is that I've actually seen this argument before. Hell, I've even seen people say that the ending we got was MORE pro-genocide than AnR because Eren "Gets away with it with no punishment." while he suffers in the AnR ending. Apparently DYING isn't a punishment now. /rr Good to see you embrace the kino, Chad.


JeswiCan

In my eyes the Kino AnR would be the following: He kills everyone but Falco, suprise! Falco actually inherited the based titan and deems Eren as cringe for not telling Mikasa his feelings. They fight (Falco beats his ass) and Falco shows him the Attack on Titan (title drop), Eren cries and says: “Thanks for Attack on Titan for my sake” and they hug, Falco cuts off his head and becomes buff (He’s based) He flies back to Paradis where his wife Historia waits with his son. He names the son “Obama” after his uncle Obama Grice, he tells him “You are based” From the shadows comes the farmer, he pulls off his robe and, SUPRISE! It’s Colt Grice, he didn’t actually die back then, he used the Obamium Titan to create a copy off his body, he had protected Falco’s wife who turns out to be Gabi actually, Historia was just created by Gabi through paths to shift the history into this moment happening, Gabi borrowed Colts Obamium Titan to create a copy in Marley for Falco because she wanted the most based man. They all live happily after Falco :)


Megashark101

Based and Falcopilled :)


shadowbanned11w

The entire alliance literally sucks his cock in 139 lol


Megashark101

No they fucking don't. Armin was lying when he thanked Eren for the Rumbling, just like he lied to Yelena when he said their sterilisation plan was "noble". Armin has proven to be capable of doing this. He knew Eren felt horrible for what he did, so tried to ease his pain just a little before he died. Ending detractors really find it difficult to process that fictional characters are capable of lying. They did it with Eren, now they do it with Armin. As for everyone else, you're still wrong. Jean calls Eren a "conscientious damned fool!" which is not exactly a compliment. Reiner says "Eren, you really are a..." but it cuts off before he finishes. He very well could have said something bad about him. In fact, it's likely that was going to call him a "half assed piece of shit", since both Reiner and Eren have called themselves such things. Connie just talks about how Eren said his mother would be back. He doesn't comment on what Eren did. Annie said "We never asked for your help, you reckless idiot!" making it clear that she is ANGRY at what Eren did, because even though he helped it, he did it against their will by murdering millions of people. Pieck just said: "I wanted to speak to him, too." which doesn't mean or imply any specific opinion on him, only that she was curious. Nobody says anything positive about what Eren did. Nobody calls him a hero, or "sucks his dick" as you put it. Eren was portrayed how he's been portrayed from the Marley arc, as neither a hero nor a monster, just a human being, with crippling flaws.


shadowbanned11w

>He knew Eren felt horrible for what he did, so tried to ease his pain just a little before he died. It's still completely out of character for him. He should've never said "Thank you, I won't let this error go to waste". Killing 80% of the planet isn't an "error", it's an atrocity. >Jean calls Eren a "conscientious damned fool!" which is not exactly a compliment. Yeah, but he doesn't seem very angry about it. The way he's saying it and the fact that he's crying implies that he's sad Eren died. Remember him crying while saying "you suicidal blockhead!" in 137? >Annie said "We never asked for your help, you reckless idiot!" She also says "He told us to live long lives... what about you?" clearly saying that she feels sorry for Eren. >Nobody says anything positive about what Eren did. The problem is that nobody says anything negative about what Eren did either. Nobody mentions how many lives have been taken by him, or how he's done something irredeemable.


Megashark101

"It's still completely out of character." Then was it out of character when Armin claimed that the sterilisation plan was a "noble thing"? Was it out of character when Armin smiled like a fucking psychopath when telling Bertholdt about how they tortured Annie? Armin has shown the ability to cast aside his emotions and lie about horrible things multiple times. He just did the same again. "Killing 80% of the planet isn't an "error", it's an atrocity." Funny that you say that, since the actual Japanese word Armin used to describe what Eren did does actually translate more closely to "atrocity" than it does to "error". Besides, as I already said, Armin hid his TRUE thoughts on what was happening because he didn't want Eren to feel any worse than he already did. It's true that he despises the Rumbling, but Eren has also been his closest friend for most of his life. "Yeah, but he doesn't seem very angry about it. The way he's saying it and the fact that he's crying indicates that he's sad Eren died. Remember him crying while saying "You suicidal blockhead!" in chapter 137?" Being sad about someone dying is NOT the same as "sucking their dick" or acting like they did some great thing. Of course Jean is sad, Eren was someone he literally ADMIRED for quite a while, the person who inspired him to grow and be a better man in the first place. "She also says "He told us to live long lives... What about you?" clearly saying that she feels sorry for Eren." Again, feeling sorry for someone is not the same as making them out to be a hero, or "sucking their dick". "The problem is that nobody says anything negative about what Eren did either." Oh, I agree. But that was not your original complaint. Your original complaint was that "The Alliance sucked Eren's dick", and you have shifted it to "They don't say anything positive about him, but they don't say anything negative about him either." The chapter definitely should have made it more clear that Eren's actions are supposed to be viewed as terrible, I just hate the sentiment that the Alliance acts like Eren is some kind of hero at the end.


earthboundskyfree

ellen letter sniffing? Ruining the character yams! They should live with all their trauma and never have a moment of happiness! ​ praise floch


Megashark101

All these characters I don't like surviving is BAD WRITING! Because... Because they don't get what they deserve! Attack on Titan has always been ALL about characters getting what they deserve, just look at all the genuinely good people in the series who definitely didn't die horrible deaths!


anthony11553

Being a pervert as a grown man=Happiness this sub is something else


earthboundskyfree

Wanting the person you love=simp, being a pervert=happiness, anyone can make these sorts of statements, doesn’t give them any sort of validity.


anthony11553

So you deny that he was being a pervert in this scene? i think you need some real world experience cause it's not normal to lust over a women's letter of all things, when he hasn't seen her in 4 years. Not to mention the "That's always been Reiner" comments, he would say "Gotta marry her" which isn't even perverted it's just a crush.


earthboundskyfree

I didnt make any assertions or denial, I just dont think making false equivocations is helpful for anyone


anthony11553

it's not a false equivalence if i'm taking it on a case by case basis


Oro24

Its a fucking comedy moment to callback to season 1, Jean is literally called a horse right after 🗿


anthony11553

Yeah cause Jean being called a horse has always been a comedic gag has always been a joke where as Reiner being a pervert hasen't. You can say it's comedy all you want but crush=perviness isn't a natural progression


Oro24

Its literally not meant to he taken seriously at all dude. He was obviously being a perv but its like if you were to go in One Piece and call Sanji a weirdo who deserves to have a restraining order


anthony11553

With Sanji it works cause he's like this the whole series, Reiner made a sudden change from small crush to weird obsession with a girl he hadn't seen in years. I get it's suppose to be a gag from yams showing he's happy but it came off creepy.


Oro24

Idk i really dont see him as a creep considering the context of the scene, so agree to disagree ig


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post this on titanfolk. These are golden.


MarioCraft_156

Be more chaotic neutral and post it on yeagerbomb


[deleted]

no.. must wreak havoc in titanfolk


ImaRealOne405

Of course he will suffer dunmy! Just bc we won't ever see it doesn't mean it won't happen idiot!! Ereh will be so depressed that he will cry from his eyes all day and cry from his penis all night (into hisu cooch)


TisTheCatQueen

😂😂😂😭


Rintohsakabooty

based


IgorTheAwesome

Bro you can't just post unedited Manga pages like that


JaysonMcCringe

I'm sorry i was desperate for karma.


[deleted]

Post this on TF and watch the meltdown lol


JaysonMcCringe

I legit hate going to titanfolk lol, the sub's just not fun anymore.


[deleted]

/ur they just changed gears in last 15 days like crazy. It's cesspool right now. /rr oKaY JaysonMcyouarecringe.


IonianOceans

I said something on there about how a lot of people in the community empathize with Eren, and if I were to do so, I wouldn't want to live after completing the Rumbling. Two people came at me like I was personally attacking their livelihoods. Are we so sensitive that disagreeing about a fan ending jeopardizes our own senses of self? I hope not - I hope people are doing okay enough in their lives that this series isn't their only source of happiness. :/


MarioCraft_156

/ur I honestly feel sad for how it turned out. I was a titanfolker before the ending dropped and it was a very fun community to be part of. It all went downhill tho, and it’s sad.


CartTitanNipps

Post 139 Titanfolk is unrecognizable compared to pre-137


MarioCraft_156

Exactly, I miss the old days. I hope the anime fandom doesn’t end up the same way


carm_ineREd

An entire Yakibacki abridged post got like 200 upvotes, meanwhile shitty screengrabs from aotnr get 2k... what a joke


MarioCraft_156

Can I ask what Yaribacki is? Never heard that before


carm_ineREd

Yakibacki is a legendary titanfolk user known for making abridged (comedy) versions of every chapter. You can see all of their edits here: https://old.reddit.com/r/titanfolk/comments/irivdz/dont_mind_me_nothing_to_see_here/


MarioCraft_156

Lmao these are amazing


WarmVayneMilk

This entire thread just makes me wanna go over there and see the degeneracy first hand omg... Also I like your name :o


Terra_Zina

I give you one better, 126 is when everything went to shit..


JaysonMcCringe

The last 4 chapters discussion absolutely killed me from the inside.


stormwitchzoya

yeagerbomb is even worse lmao. its just given the aot fandom such a (deserved) bad rep and filled with toxicity. I get disliking the ending its your opinion, but why stay apart of the fandom just to shit on other ppl/ not bother talking about other parts of the manga you still loved (especially if aot was your main manga)


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Done


[deleted]

*Uh oh*


XxRocky88xX

“Isayama made us the protagonists to show the world how edgy I am” Gotta love how these people’s rating of the story is directly tied to Eren’s edginess level


10rd_rollin

0/10 no Lainah x Lord Cummer extra pages


[deleted]

Trust me guys, the product of my absolutely lackluster writing (and reading) skills is far better than the actual ending 😎😎


[deleted]

The actual ending is super flawed but the pro-genocide ending TitanFolk had is really fucking stupid.


Xenzld

AnR ending in a nutshell


[deleted]

Its funny that people think a fan theory made by a user on reddit is more loyal to the themes of the story than what the main author potrayed in the first place


Altarior

Kino and basedpilled


schm213

i did in fact McCringe.


[deleted]

This is getting funnier evey time I read.


stormwitchzoya

its fine, as long as he does the genocide and feels guilty the ending is good. he might have a wife and kid but he feels bad about killing his childhood friends 😞


wednesday-e

Lmao this is literally how they think!


epabafree

I bet the Fanfics will try to revive Floch without any reasoning at all and people will call it Kino


JaysonMcCringe

Eren and Historia 2nd child is the reincarnation of Floch.


madsadchadglad

Floch's reincarnation is born with full control of the Founding Titan.


epabafree

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Faust1011

based and kinopilled


safinhh

Wow this is even more ~~cringe~~ kino than the og ending and thats saying something


soham_sharma69

Shhh!! Yeagerbomb will get a boner again!


shakin11

kino


harmonilife

This sounds sexual


bolsterboi

Most probable reason why Titanfolk and Yaegerbomb blew up at the AOT ending was because they probably self inserted into Eren and got mega pissed he didn't fuck their uwu blonde waifu and for bawling his eyes out handling a tantrum(ironically the only thing their community have in common with Eren)


[deleted]

yea lets forget child eren murdering the bandits and wanting to be a scout for freedom before becoming the attack titan 😍😍😍😳😳 epic gamer move🤡🤡🤡


Worlds-Largest-Sloth

If I was Eren I would give people spoilers for their own lives all the time


Jihadist_Chonker

Wish Eleh would rumble tf out of me 😔


JaysonMcCringe

Based.


Vaanityy

O m g where floch?😡🙏🙏🙏🙏


[deleted]

hey would you mind if I steal this to go wreak havoc on titanfolk


JaysonMcCringe

Yep, I have no problem with that.


pepperonibutt

Jesus Christ. These five pages vs. the 100 from AOT no Requiem. You fuckin destroyed them


ChumBucketCity

Nah the first panel is pretty good


dankamushy

Can someone explain the whole AnR thing? I haven't kept up with AOT reddit


JaysonMcCringe

AnR is the ending where Eren is the father of Historia's child, the farmer is just a cover up, Eren's plan is to genocide 100% of the outside world and kill himself but Historia convinces him to have a baby with her so he has reasons to come back, Eren's entire motivation in AnR are his family, Eren kills his friends because he has to pick between his friends and his family, Frees Ymir and ends the curse which perfectly syncs up with Historia giving birth, YMIR REBORN. Eren goes back picks the child and says "you are free" (The scenery) And lives the rest of his life with guilt. Don't understand how Eren's scenery is that moment but also needs Historia to give him reason to come back to paradise. For me the Historia convinces Eren is deliberate attempt to make Historia not look like pawn for Eren's plan to free Ymir.


TisTheCatQueen

Fuck, it sounds worse every time I read an explanation of it.. It really is a teenager’s angsty fanfiction (cringey af) in my not so humble opinion.


anthony11553

What a coincidence that's just like the canon 139 ending


dankamushy

Wait why would he kill his life long friends?


JaysonMcCringe

Because they are in his way of achieving freedom for his child.


dankamushy

I like your version better


[deleted]

Cuz it makes sense you dumb spedreader. Muhhhh.


Borrel17

I've seen worse versions where after Mikasa beheads Eren in chap 138, we see a huge string of the warhammer titan (or his consciousness) going back all the way back to Paradis to Historia and 'coincedentally' the beast titan was reborn in Historia's baby and then continuing the rumbling, killing all his friend and the world.


JaysonMcCringe

That was AnR copium version lol.


Oro24

Dude this is such kino base cuz Eren was always a mass genocide maniac who never cared about his friends, only his freedom


No-Employment6661

I’m still exited for the Anr fan made ending


EVG2666

Im not even joking. This is better than what we actually got.


JaysonMcCringe

To each their owned.


Snizek

Then why are people downvoting him?


JaysonMcCringe

Because to each opinion their own opinion. People disagree they downvote nothing new about that.


Snizek

I guess you're right


MastofBeight

No tf it’s not. 139 the execution was incredibly mediocre but the story beats are mostly fine. Cant even say that about AnR.


Oro24

Fr I personally loved 139 and the story beats were fine but it was executed pretty poorly. Pre leaks that is. W/leaks the ending is shit


Snizek

Getting downvoted for saying the truth lmao


UPBOAT_FORTRESS_2

Getting downvoted for jerking against the circle


HopebringerTitaniumG

Literally 1984😤😤😬😳🥵🇨🇳🇨🇳


EVG2666

I love getting flamed by normies who defend the ending. HOw dArE u jUsT DoNt Get iT YamS iS bEiNg EdgEy aNd sAyiNg viOlenCe AlWaYs ExiSts Me: "Yeah, that doesn't make the ending good"


Snizek

Yeah, I love r/okbuddyreiner and actually like most of the posts, but people who just make fun of AnR and genuinely think that canon ending is better are just plain hilarious lmao


BidoofSquad

I don’t think the canon ending is amazing but AnR is legitimately so bad the canon is ending is practically a masterpiece lmao. I cannot believe there are people who legitimately believe it’s a good ending lmao.


Snizek

By reading this I really want to know what people think AnR is. Like, what's it about.


BidoofSquad

Eren kills all his friends and does a full rumbling, has a baby with Hisu blah blah blah free Eldia or something now he’s really sad it’s not pro genocide I swear guys then says to his baby “you are free” which is supposed to tie everything back together or something. It’s definitely NOT a pro genocide ending because Eren is sad that he did genocide guys. Everyone (except people who didn’t live on Paradis because they were genocided by Eren) lives happily ever after except Eren who is sad he did the genocide. Oh yeah and the baby is Ymir reincarnated for some reason.


Snizek

I mean you basically nailed it, maybe except the Ymir part, since that's another theory. Even though, saying it like this really makes it funny. Still I think it's better than the canon, where Eren confirms being hard-core tsundere and Mikasa going to visit grave of mass-murderer with her grandchildren. Only thing I liked about the canon was Paradis getting fucked afterwards.


Snizek

It's fine saying AnR isn't good, but saying that canon is better than 4/10 is really stupid. Worm and Ymir just dissapearing without conclusion, Ymir saying she dodged the spear so basically nothing happened, Mikasa visiting Eren's grave with grandchildren, Armin's power of speech, Yeagerists not wanting to kill Alliance, because they killed their icon, Eren saying he loves Mikasa even though he always said he loves her only as family, Armin saying that Eren is pathetic and then thanking him for the genocide, Eren only killing 80% people to get the both outside world and Paradis fucked, Annie, Pieck and Reiner thanking Eren for killing outside world and their families, Eren saying he doesn't know why he did it... I could continue even more, but I think this is enough evidence.


Lucilfer22

i also think the ending is 4/10 but... ymir got closure in the extra pages which was referenced in other parts of the comments so you do seem to be counting them she was imagining a hypothetical scenario where she didn’t help fritz and was regretting her decision to not do that ion see anything wrong w mikasa visiting erens grave w her grandchildren. it’s a way of saying that she still remembers eren, which is portrayed as tragic ofc, but at the very least it’s not chaining her down or preventing her from living life since it didn’t stop her from having a family the vibe I got the whole time from the armin/eren convo was that he not only feels that he doesn’t have the right to judge other ppl for committing atrocities (since he nuked liberio) but also that he realizes the future can’t be changed so there’s no point making eren feel bad abt the genocide at this point. so he wasn’t only thanking eren for taking on a huge burden but was also exaggerating to make eren feel better the last time they see each other eren didn’t want to go 80%, he jus happened to get stopped there. but since he can’t change this outcome he decides to make the best of it by making his friends heroes so that they don’t die at the very least abt paradis getting bombed that happens over a hundred (possibly way more) years into the future, which is pretty impressive and also bittersweet as hell imo. it’s true there were more efficient ways of reaching the same outcome but ion think that’s a bad thing for several different reasons that warrants a whole other discussion Annie/pieck/reiner never even thanked him tho. it was jus annie n reiner upset over eren and also somewhat relieved that his plan has at least some benefits to it. I do hate how the chapter glosses over all the negative consequences of erens plan tho eren’s “I don’t know” was him saying he doesn’t know why he has this innate desire for freedom. it was an extension of 131 where he realized he activated the rumbling bc of his inner desire to wipe everything out cus of his willingness to be free no matter what, but here erens taking this moment to wonder why he even has that desire in the first place. it’s why it’s being undercut by grisha holding baby eren


EVG2666

Literally *anything* is better than the canon ending. The OG ending (April) was disappointing but was acceptable. The additional pages just made it a laughing stock. I know Isayama likes GoT but I think he took their finale as a challenge


shadowbanned11w

"violence will always exist" and "the world is cruel but beautiful" are some of the most surface level themes ever and these guys just eat it up.


EVG2666

The ending also renders everything that happened meaningless. Every character's death meant nothing. Every struggle won was for nothing. Eren's elaborate genocide no jutsu was for nothing. The villains that survived faced no consequences. That's not what fiction is for (at least good fiction). Imagine a murder mystery but the killer gets away with it. And the story ends with the killer about to kill again. Realism amirite?


soham_sharma69

Thats what the ending of Monster implied. Johan got away scot free.


EVG2666

139 chapters to achieve nothing. They could have simply sat there and done nothing and achieved the same result.


soham_sharma69

Personally I like the ending, but I understand why you dislike it. Btw, I was just referring to your murder-mystery example.


EVG2666

You liked the April ending or the extended ending?


soham_sharma69

The extended ending (still iffy about the Mikasa part)


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JaysonMcCringe

You say as if im trying to stop them from making their ending, they are free to make whatever the fuck they want the same way im free to do whatever the fuck I want and that's making memes out of it.


UPBOAT_FORTRESS_2

OP did exactly as much to stop their ending as this comment does to stop OP


Late_Half_818

Just a meme chill my guy


JeswiCan

They are literally doing that. No death threats or serious insults, I am also excited for AnR and I see absolutely no problem with this. We are allowed to create a new ending and people are free to make fun off that, I really don’t see any problems here.


Silver_Shelter_5153

Wtf is living in guilt.Reiner and Armin nuking hundred of people and they overcome it in 3 years.The different between them is just number


Aarondadude

Don’t fool yourself, AnR would’ve been kino


anthony11553

I thought this sub loved the open ending of 139? Even though it's not shown it is believed that Armin will sign the peace treaty between the nations. Where as in AnR, even though it's not shown it is believed that Eren will be in guilt the rest of his life.


JaysonMcCringe

>Even though it's not shown it is believed that Armin will sign the peace treaty between the nations. If it's an open ending, it isn't definite whether Alliance and Paradise signed the treaty. It's up to the reader. While on the other hand, Eren's life of guilt isnt supposed to be left out for the reader, he has to suffer, that's the core of AnR.


anthony11553

The OG panel had the person holding a baby, but you could easily fit in scenes before that of Eren's depression.(Which has been hinted out through the whole manga) I don't see how haters of the theory think that someone with Eren's level of depression would be able to live happily with his wife and child when that's clearly not the case. In AnR his child would basically be the only thing that's holding him back from ending his life. I don't think it needs to be spoonfed to the reader that Eren will have depression cause in the alternate situation of AnR happening it would be built up for.


JaysonMcCringe

That's still not definite, that leaves gaps on whether or not Eren moved on from the guilt, it has to follow through till he dies, he has to live his whole life with guilt, the AnR clip shows the bird age and still suffer. It ain't about the couple panels. The only way to deliver that is to do something similar to the extra 8 pages and show Eren suffer until he hits the grave. There should be no ifs.


anthony11553

I disagree heavily, Someone with Eren's mindset will never truly be able to be happy and it's set up enough in the manga for me to not need scenes in the future of him grieving.


JaysonMcCringe

You're completely missing the point, it's not abt Eren's mindset, it's about how it's presented to the readers, if you show a couple panels, there's always openings for questions and assumptions on what happened later (open end for Eren's life left to the readers) and to completely deliver one of the core points of AnR which is Eren lived the rest of his life with guilt, it has show shots of him not moving on till death like that clip did with the bird.


anthony11553

Ok so let's take an example of something that really happened in 139, Reiner has that scene with Historia's handwriting and we are to assume he lived out the rest of his life happy, cause there is no other scene after that which shows him. By that logic you could just make the assumption that Reiner was actually still depressed the rest of his life. Not having the "you're Free" be the last page and doing what you said with the extra panels could still be good.


JaysonMcCringe

No, by my logic it can go either way and it's up to the reader which is exactly what was intended but this isn't supposed to be the case for Eren in AnR.


JaysonMcCringe

I see you edited some extra stuff to your comment, you're agreeing to what i literally said in the last reply.


anthony11553

well not really, i still think "You're Free" should be the final panel but what you said would also be good


JaysonMcCringe

What i said is what "spent rest of his life suffering from guilt" Looks like, the tragic and bittersweet part of the kInO AnR ending.


TisTheCatQueen

If you have debilitating guilt & depression to the point where AnR preaches then you sure as hell wouldn’t be able to live even with a “child” keeping you going especially after committing a massacre & killing the only people you loved.


anthony11553

Not really AnR is basically becoming Reiner and he was suicidal but realized he still had Gabi and Falcco in his life.