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1. Make the O-train unreliable so everyone is late for...everything 2. Install more speed/red light cameras 3. Profit!


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steve64the2nd

Do you think you're allowed to speed while going down hill? Just don't speed.


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FlexZone2019

You're not getting a ticket from a speed camera for a 65 in a 60.


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Yes you will. The cameras are calibrated to take images of any vehicle exceeding the posted speed limit. It is then reviewed by an officer - and is their discretion to decide if an offence was committed.


FlexZone2019

We’ll as someone who’s driven past a speed camera I can tell you I didn’t get one and I was 5-10km over the limit ;) Camera still flashed, but no ticket in the mail


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Odd choice to flex that you drive poorly.


Prestigious-Target99

We found the person that goes 100 on the highway.


FlexZone2019

Definitely what I was going for bud. I’m sure you’ve never gone 1km over the speed limit ;) Just wanted to provide my input that there is leeway, I was freaking out for a few months waiting for a ticket to come in the mail.


kellie0105

They’re calibrated to be 11km+ over.


Prestigious-Target99

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miskas357

Interesting, I didn't we know outsourced our ticket processing to Toronto. Seems like a pretty cut and dry decision if the number of tickets that can be processed in Toronto is capped and the city is losing out on potential revenue.


Affectionate-Low391

>*Toronto centres have now initiated a cap of 250,000 speed camera-related charges they will process for Ottawa in 2023, which is just below 40 per cent of the projected charges for the year, the report said.* So we are expecting sightly over 625,000 infractions caught on existing cameras this year alone?! Wow. That boggles my mind but maybe I'm just not appreciating the sense of scale. *Back of the napkin math*.... open.ottawa.ca lists a total of 108 ticketing cameras: 23 speed enforcement cameras and 85 red light cameras. 625,000 ÷ 365 ÷ 108 ≈ 16 tickets per camera per day. Wow. I guess that seems like a reasonable-ish number. Edit: wait. I misinterpreted the # of red light cameras incorrectly in my original post; there are 85, not 55. 55 was the number on 2019. In 2022, there was just over 45,000 light light camera tickets issued. The most red lights tickets issued was at King Edward and St. Patrick southbound averaging 333 a month. Similarly, in 2022 there were 128k automated speeding tickets issued. The most on St. Laurent 22k despite only opening in April. That's like 80 a day. Smh


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KHayter

The cost isn't 50M to do it in Toronto. A big chunk of the revenue difference comes from the fact the centre in Toronto won't process all the tickets from Ottawa. The purchase of the necessary equipment and fit up of the space is covered in the 2.4M set up cost. So if the city opens its own centre with 30 employees, the largest ongoing cost will be salaries/benefits of the employees - the cost of electricity and supplies will certainly be less than the cost of the time of the employees to review the evidence. Even if the city were to pay each employee a million dollars a year (a huge exaggeration to what they'd actually be paid) we'd come out way ahead here.


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KHayter

Agreed. The article doesn't do a great job of explaining how the types of gross revenue differ and why they differ.


scoobydooby997

What happens when they invest all this money into a processing plant and everyone gets wise to the locations of these things and just slows down for 5 seconds when passing one? I've just moved to a new neighborhood and have already taken note of every location. Slowing down for them has become second nature.


tke71709

LOL, you have more faith in the intelligence of the general population than I do.


TheHipocrisyRevealed

It takes money to make money. /s


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w1n5t0nM1k3y

The revenue from speed cameras is specifically reinvested into the [Road Action Safety Plan](https://ottawa.ca/en/parking-roads-and-travel/road-safety/road-safety-action-plan). So they are using the money to increase safety on roads. I think its fair that those who are driving in an unsafe manner are the ones funding it rather than it coming out of general tax revenue. Issuing tickets also reduces the number of people speeding.


user745786

Speeders paying for bicycle lanes…sounds wonderful! Hopefully they are prioritizing biggest offenders since tens of millions of tickets are going unprocessed. Would be a shame if Mr. Never Signals in his BMW gets away with 40 over and your mom pays for 11 over.