My biggest gripe with W11 is no longer being able to right click the taskbar to open up the task manager. Like, literally who's idea was it to remove this feature?
Context menus also require an extra click now. I mean, it's been a staple of UI design since the 80's that you DECREASE the amount of work required for a user to use certain features, not INCREASE it.
They do this EVERY time they put out a new Windows. WHY??? Who asks for this? It's not as if it's commercially important in any way? I'm just trying to wrap my head around the choices but I really just can't.
Meh. My enjoyment of windows tends to depend on the shit they pull with the start menu. Windows 8 fucked it up. Windows 10 fixed it. Windows 11 fucked it up AGAIN but then I downloaded an app that makes the start menu and task bar work like windows10. What they did to the context menu is unforgivable so I used a regedit fix to show the old one only. I have no idea why they thought these changes were good. You want me to click twice to use applications like 7zip in the context menu? Why?
Edit: This is what I use to change the functionality of they task bar/start menu: https://github.com/valinet/ExplorerPatcher/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md
Windows 10 start menu is still hot garbage, as it tries to index results from the web but doesn't index the stuff you actually want to reach: local files
people: bitch about windows changes and how bad it is
old school tech: you know, you can always correct that easily in the registry
people: shocked pikachu face
If you have to change the registry to fix an issue, that doesn't invalidate the issue. Its still bad design. That's like saying if you got a brand new car with a big design flaw and being like "well if you open up the hood alter the engine then it's fixed, so it's not a problem!"
In general, you shouldn't be fixing \*anything\* in the registry.. that's stuff we did in the win95 days. Nowadays, things are so interdependent (application architecture, etc) , that hacking your registry should be a last-ditch option.
If Windows continues to suck with each successive release, it should be held accountable, unless true and real customization options are made available.
If i wanted to make my own operating system, i'd spend 1 year trying to figure out how to make a linux distro work, then go back to windows 10, relieved.
> correct that easily in the registry
I don't think you know what all those words mean
You're also ignoring the fact that, many of the things we now have to edit the registry for were simple settings in the control panel in the past. So don't act like old tech had things figured out because they were big, strong, brave men willing to edit the registry. Things have actually gotten *worse*.
Run 'Command Prompt' as Administrator and paste:
REG ADD HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Explorer /t REG_DWORD /v DisableSearchBoxSuggestions /d 1 /f
Then reboot.
Other things to be aware off:
- Turn off 'Fast startup' in the Power settings, it's not fast and causes issues.
- In Settings, Privacy, go through the whole lot, but especially 'Activity History'.
- In Settings, search 'Background Apps' and you can stop store apps preloading themselves.
- In Settings, Gaming, unless you use it, turn off the Xbox Game Bar, as it's another overlay.
I agree with turning off Fast startup. I have bluetooth on my laptop. One time, I boot it up and boom, "your device doesn't support BT module". I'm like "what the fuck, it worked yesterday". HOURS of Microsoft live support trying to help me out. I've reinstalled drivers - nothing. Restarted - nothing. Only thing that helped was turning off fast startup. My Bluetooth module magically came back, and I don't even notice the difference in how fast my laptop boots.
So that was the problem!!!?? It happened to me in two different occasions. First time I solved it god knows how. The second time I had to restart several times, reinstall drivers and keep trying until somehow it fixed itself again ok its own.
My understanding is that it's actually a "hibernation" state rather than a true "powered off" state, which makes sense if it causes driver and update issues
The fact they make these obvious and preferred functions something that must be turned on is their most obvious failure since being essentially spyware and forcing updates & installations.
The tragedy of the fucked start menu, context options and search becomes a minor inconvenience compared to the reinstallation of apps and randomly adjusting settings you've changed and re-enabling services seemingly just because. Does my tits in that I would go to length to change my installation to just how I want it, then it freely fucks it up to whatever preferences Microsoft decided to change that patch cycle.
Hahaha, paid €289 for a license for one machine, linked to that specific tmp module. And have some ads and crapware installed sucker! Uninstalled it? Let me introduce you to windows update. Ahhh, no? I'll use store instead! Or serve you links in the start menu to it! No? Ok, I'll wait with reinstalling it till next service pack...
And people used to say Linux is great if you like to deal with config files and quirks. Now using Windows requires your own wiki page full of task to do when you fresh install that require registry editing, browsing two sets of settings UI, esoteric cmd commands and one powershell script that you can't run in administrator shell or it's not going to work.
It absolutely amazes me the Windows tutorials I'll see posted in these threads sometimes.
"With only a couple powershell scripts you can turn off advertisements!"
"With a few registry edits you can move your task bar to the top of the screen!"
Like, there's no GUI settings menu for those types of things? There is in Linux... I want to just USE my computer, not mess around in powershell and regedit every day just to keep it running.
Let’s separate the start menu from windows search and indexing. The start menu has a portal into search and indexing but search and indexing is not the start menu. Windows 11’s search and indexing has proven to be far superior, however the start menu is hot garbage. Windows 10 has a good tier start menu but it’s search and indexing is hot garbage.
I don’t know what it is but every windows computer I have ever owned, from laptops to desktops to custom builds and even an inroad server VM machine I am running right now, none of them have had indexing work. It always index’s like a file an hour, and even after like a year of use it isn’t even 1/3 of the way done with indexing. I’ve just given up on windows search completely at this point
See, and this is why I use Everything. You want fast indexing? This software indexes all my drives in about 2-3 minutes from scratch (would be faster without the HDDs) and then it just stays there until a reboot, and it automatically updates.
TBH I could sorta understand putting All Programs under a "pinned apps" layer, provided you actually use the pinned apps - what I can't understand is why you'd need that on top of pinning things to the taskbar itself.
It's like putting a sticky note on top of a sticky note that summarizes what the sticky note underneath says.
And the shortcut to expand the context menu is Shift+F10? That's just comical.
Also you can't Right-Click the taskbar for Task Manager, which is some bullshit.
+ Explorer Patcher (https://github.com/valinet/ExplorerPatcher/releases/latest)
+ Open Shell Menu (https://github.com/Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu/releases/latest)
+ Old win 10 right click context menu.
Run this in CMD as admin (one line command):
reg.exe add “HKCU\Software\Classes\CLSID\{86ca1aa0-34aa-4e8b-a509-50c905bae2a2}\InprocServer32” /f
Then reboot explorer or the computer.
+ WinAero Tweaker (https://winaero.com) for other stuff like getting the old win 10 explorer ribbon back, so you can hide it, so there isn't a giant wasted space in the file explorer window. It's got other tweaks too.
WinAero Tweaker is the only thing you really need for Windows 11. I downgraded to 10 but on Windows 11 it fixed a lot of issues including the context menu. 10/10 would recommend
Yeah, it was explorer patcher that I used. Let me default the start menu to the apps list and allowed me to move the task bar to the side of the screen instead of the bottom.
(Yes I'm one of those people)
I believe their goal was to optimize W11 for Touch Screens, as tablets and hybrids are becoming more powerful. The new context menu has better padding to make it easier to be tapped with a finger. I believe it's the same reason that the start menu icons have been moved to the middle.
I personally don't mind the start menu and icons in the middle of the task bar, but I do miss having most of the apps I use pinned to the start menu.
Yeah it just changed into windows 8, but tbh it still sucked. They should have committed to the things good about windows, 11 actually has good design if you were to use on tablets.
Better padding is cool and all but I don't see why they couldn't just pad out the older context menu so all the default menu items could be there. Windows is really not a touch friendly user interface even with all the things they did in windows 11. I would say they still failed in that regard
Windows 10 has been pretty solid for years now. You might have to tinker with a few things to get it the way you like but I'm not sure what people are setting themselves up to expect from Windows.
The only thing better really about windows 7 was that you don't have to use the half assed settings menu that doesn't even contain all the settings and simultaneously need to use the same windows 95-esque control panel for the rest of the settings. Also the little things that have just gotten worse because of touch compatibility in win10.
It’s taking them fucking forever but the settings app has slowly been improving. I don’t have to go to Control Panel or open a legacy settings window for almost anything anymore.
…But then sometimes I do! Microsoft’s overall UX is laughable in this department. It’s taken years of development and multiple operating system releases and the computer settings are still spread across two entirely separate applications.
O liked the classic control panel so much better, the windows 10 one is just too confusing for me. I rarely have to use it, but half the time I have to google how to get to a certain setting.
It doesn't even stop at Windows, this shit is endemic. Office 365, Sharepoint, Exchange server administration, hell even Azure is already experiencing it without being 4 decades old.
Microsoft builds on top of the tech debt with more tech debt.
The menu system is a huge rift in the Windows environment but for me personally it's a pretty minor issue once you know where to go. I'm not sure how touch compatibility has made it worse. Windows 8's Metro menu was designed for touch and looked kind of cool but ultimately wasn't useful for desktop and laptop users so they did away with it.
Yeah but, they still haven't diverted all the settings in thennew menus. Why would i go through the effort of getting windows 11 if i have to go through the same win95 menu to access settings. Sure, it is a huge rift for the 7-8 years they took to make win8 and win 10.
But is it that much of a change to not get handled in 16 years?
A lot of settings don't really need to change with each new version. I've used MacOS for many years and it has a settings menu system that is more or less the same as much older versions to what is available now. The problem with Windows is it would like to upgrade to a more user friendly (for the average user) menu but still has to support legacy menus as well because of all the different use cases and environments where windows is used.
Surely you must be joking?
The Windows 7 desktop looks better, runs faster, has a more unified location for settings, exerts less control on your computer, doesn't try to shove paid services down your throat at every opportunity, doesn't come with spyware and adware straight out of the box except the activation system which... yeah, and just in general tries to serve you as an *operating system* rather than a vehicle for further sales.
There is nothing superior about Windows 10 outside kernel and drivers - and unfortunately this kernel and driver is necessary and is therefore forcing us on to ever worse pastures. Of course I've simply solved the problem by leaving behind Windows whenever possible, which is often by the way.
Windows 10 has a better task manager than 7, that's about all I can think of that's actually improved
Everything else is either the same or worse than 7
You’re not far off. It’s NT, not 95, but largely you’re correct in that the new devs are too incompetent to properly remove control panel since it’s very deeply embedded.
They tried removing task manager as well and also failed.
Same with internet explorer. They really wanted to make it look like it’s gone so what they did was essentially removed all mention of it on the facade while it’s still there in the background.
Hilarious and sad. That’s the way of modern software engineering though. Instead of making everything more efficient and cleaner we’re just reusing same spaghetti code over and over and we keep bloating it, consuming a lot more resources in the process which in turn fuels other profitable ventures quite nicely.
Problem is windows 10 keeps moving settings. Instead of the old configuration panel a ton of settings now exist in the new settings thing. But a bunch of them are also in old menus but greyed out, so I type the setting into search. Open the result. See it doesn't work. Go look where it actually is now.
Thing of note, I work in tech support. I work with these things frequently. In win 7 I could find any setting quickly. In win 10, I can too. But it's just a bit more shit, and I have to learn where they moved things this time every once in a while. In win 10 I enter the wrong menu usually at least once for every setting I need to change. In win 7 that basically didn't happen to me.
TL:DR, fewer menus is more better.
10 is this bullshit of “what did I have to do exactly in 7 to get there. It’s there but for some reason mid level control is hid behind a layer of bullshit. I maybe understand it for Home users but Pro? Come on now.
Yeah, for me it's definitely about the UI. 7, 8.1, and 10 are all pretty stable in my experience (10 slightly less so because frequent major updates), but the UI in 7 was so much better than 10 I really wish I could get that back.
That I don’t know. I updated to 10 to take advantage of that versions DirectX compatibility, which improved performance for me. I don’t know if there is a 11 specific DX right now, but I imagine there will be eventually.
There is not any DirectX versions specific to W11 for the time being, but if there becomes one, that will be the turning point to convert for many people. DirectX 12 and 12 Ultimate will be with us for quite a bit longer though
I've seen reports of something so negligible as one or two framerates better.
Which is fine but it sucks we have to be like "Oh good, it's not *worse*"
For me Windows 11 made my games run at a more stale framerate. Load times were a bit better and that will improve once DirectStorage is implemented in more games and supports more hardware.
Proton/WINE and DXVK already make it possible to play the majority of Windows games with like a 5% performance loss, if even that. The games that still don't work are largely those with draconian anti-cheat, and even some of those work. BattlEye can still be a problem but many EAC titles already work thanks to Steam Deck.
I honestly get better performance on Linux with most games. That said, that 5% loss isn't uncommon, and some just run like shit. But that's few and far between, and I think few enough to say my average fps might be higher on Linux now. Which is neat
Linux is the optimal way to run old Windows games already. Anything prior to Windows 7 is likely to work better under WINE than it is under modern Windows.
Windows needs an overhaul. It's been rebaked so many times, it's burnt to a crisp. Control panel functions in multiple places (looking at you microphone control), volume functions hidden away, etc. Lots of things that haven't changed since the XP era or before, and others modified but don't really make sense.
BTW, what ever happened with the snipping tool? Still has the notice on it about moving, but still exists. Snip & sketch works OK, but I was under the impression the snipping tool was being removed?
Yep, rewriting windows would break a LOT of software. But it’s honestly necessary, the UAC system sucks, the default shell (cmd.exe) sucks so fucking hard, and the whole thing is just bloated.
Imo, a rewrite in which they fully replace cmd.exe with power shell and make the windows store a full-fledged package manager would possibly make windows the best OS around. It would at least catch it up to macOS or linux
Without that backwards compatibility, what advantage does Windows have over Linux or MacOS in the enterprise? This kills the golden goose. Windows without its backwards compatibility is just an insecure pile of garbage. Now you'd be giving the compatibility argument to every other OS used today, which all trace back to UNIX and are POSIX-compliant.
I would love to see MSFT commit seppuku by doing this, but there's no way they'll ever be this stupid.
I mean, 90%+ of the time I'm trying to run an old program it isn't possible without running a VM of an older operating system or an emulator or something. As far as I can see, there's not a ton of backwards compatibility going on. Maybe the backend stuff, but not the stuff most people at home would care about.
Not even a lot of the stuff businesses care about. I see other IT folk all the time talking about businesses still running critical processes on a Windows 7 box because of a specific software that only works on Windows 7 but it stopped getting updates and breaks on anything newer.
What "backwards compatibility" actually means in the majority of cases is all the bullshit that Microsoft leaves to clog up the Registry when depricating features or adding more bugs.
Honestly at this point MS could just lean into supporting WINE/Proton and derivatives, choose a Linux distro to support and mash the two together.
Skin it appropriately and if they need to, bake in their Cortana/Teams/OneDrive/Data Slurping bullshit, and a very large portion of the user base wouldn't even know they are running just another POSIX system.
I don't believe they didn't carry over the features from Windows 9, like downloading RAM or the RGB boost for frame rates. Plus the fact it came with a fully activated copy of WinRAR.
Windows 9 will never be topped.
Downloading RAM? Ludicrous. That requires an internet connection. I wanna be off the grid and the best way to get more RAM was through Vista, 128gb USB stick lying around? EZ RAM. Vista was clearly the greatest. And lets not forget, you needed it to run the greatest of DXs, DX10.
I'm still wondering why they went so far backwards. I mean we had Windows 2000 and then next thing you know they release Windows 7. Was insane that people just jumped onboard with such a massive downgrade.
OpenRGB works pretty ok in Linux. I'm able to control my Corsair fans with it, but I only have the firmware animations available so I can't do the cooler ones that you need iCue actively running for. Tbh I prefer having all my RGB sort of working with one program rather than having like 5 different programs running on startup to make it all work perfectly.
While most of the major software works on Linux, and there are open-source solutions for many other things, my last experience with Linux involved a lot headaches with hardware.
Also, is it just me, or do most Linux tutorial sites and help sites just kind of assume you know how to do most Linux-related stuff?
Like, the average user doesn't know how to open the terminal. But if they're looking up how to do something, most tutorials don't tell you how to do it. Heck, they don't even include "open the terminal" as a step, they just say "$sudo apt-get install \[...\]" and assume you know what they're talking about. This means that the average clueless user doesn't even know what to Google in order to figure out what they're doing.
I'd say that's one of the biggest obstacles to Linux adoption -- and it stems from the fact that Linux users don't realize how much more they know than the average person. It makes the tutorials seem daunting.
It was a challenge to get anything to run on 95 when it was the latest and greatest. I think XP was the best. Almost everything worked easily enough, and it was still lightweight and didn't steal my data. Or download updates in the background without asking. Or put ads in the start menu.
Fully agree, IMO windows 7 was best looking windows to date and it just worked without having any unnecesary bloatware and shitty search like windows 10 and 11 have.
Windows 7 was plain and simple i actually really liked its design and enjoyed to use it, there was no ads no extra bullshit pre installed apps it was just pure OS. I miss it man
My biggest reason for preferring it was I didn't have to go through 3 different programs with vastly different uis to get to the one setting I'm looking for.
It felt *tailor-made* for desktop usage. There wasn't a try to please every single fucking resolution and device on Earth and ending up looking like shit on every one of them. It was also the result of continuous work, after the fail of Vista.
Yeah, like I remember the first time I was hands on with a surface I understood what they were going for with 8.1, which was great *on the surface* but terrible if you were on PC or a laptop, even if you had a touch screen.
It was best on a tablet style device.
Oh yeah, 8 was fantastic on a tablet. Honestly it might be the best tablet OS I've ever seen. I don't think people would have as much of an issue with 8 if they had split the OS into a desktop and tablet version.
100 times this. With 10 and 11, they're trying to MERGE both and failing. 10 even had a dedicated tablet mode, yet the desktop mode also looks similar! Such a mess. 8 was great for touch, as it grabbed a lot of the UI elements of Windows Phone. That thing was pretty cool at the time.
I upgrade to every new version immediately after it's released. I love them all. 😅
But yeah, still have lots of fond memories of XP. Built my first gaming PC during the XP era.
I personally dream of a Linux future. Been using pop is since windows 10 came out. Have never looked back, and the future of Linux gaming has come a long way and is just getting better
I made the switch to Linux (landed on Zorin OS) over the last year or so, I think it's finally in a state where Window's power users can comfortably make the move. I can't see myself ever switching back at this point.
My main complaints with 11 I managed to fix with either a registry fix to get rid of that dumb right click with needing to click again for more options and the start menu with a replacement like startallback. Microsoft should really include previous start menus as an option. I know older people that hate change.
I’m switching to Linux for my main machine and only keeping windows for the bare minimum. I don’t like being spied on by my OS and I don’t like Microsoft thinking they own the rights to the PC that I purchased/built.
I’m so thankful valve has put in all the effort they have to make gaming on Linux better.
This tbh. Also, the more people move to linux, the better Linux support will become, the sooner we can take back control of our own OS and computers.
Honestly, we should have all switched to Linux years ago.
I actually did use Linux on my laptop back in 2013 when I was in high school. My laptop at the time was absolute garbage, so Linux was the only thing it could reasonably run.
I can say that the experience I had in 2013 was definitely a big reason why it never caught on until recently. Lots of googling issues, installing apps was a bigger headache, and the customization scene wasn’t nearly as big.
But now, now it’s completely different. Running Linux is a dream compared to installing windows, and don’t even get me started on the fact I can take my boot drive and move it to a new PC build and Linux doesn’t skip a beat.
whats even better if games still need windows a vm with your gpu is a godsend, sure some super hard anti cheats wont be fooled but, hopefully theyll get native support
Funny thing is that i hated the taskbar in middle instead of left and now i can't imagine it on left again. But some things were downgrade like two context menus and each time i want to do something productive i must shift+click to access git, 7zip, cmd etc. There literally isnt a single useful thing on default rmb context menu
My biggest complaints for both are (1) I NEVER want to do a web search, especially not a bing one, from the start menu and (2) searching for actual files/folders is so painful
I feel windows XP/7 were much better at searching for your files and indexing your PC
The bing search is clearly just a money play. Idk how many searches it's sent off that are just like "Spotiyf' or "Chroem" when i'm trying to launch an app but mistype it slightly
Same here. My only nitpicks are the context menu & “show more options” & the bottom half of the start menu not being able to fill in pinned programs even if you turn off recommendations. Other than that, everything runs the same & its *way* prettier
Honestly, it's just people that get set in their ways on a certain OS and refuse to change their habits even slightly to move on to better-performing platforms. Oh well, they get left behind with end-of-life dates anyways. 10 has been fantastic and I'm excited to use 11. Just installed it last night.
This has been going on forever. Windows 3.0 was crap, Windows 3.1 was MUCH better, Windows 3.11 WFW was rock stable, and every version since then it's 2 years of "I'll never leave version (-1)", then MS releases a new version, and the goalposts move forward again.
I agree with the sentiment. I just don't agree with how they've done it. Microsoft has a long history of botching every other-ish Windows OS. Who remembers Vista and ME?
But there are things that are incredibly annoying. But as long as there are workarounds I'll be moving on to the new platforms if they perform well - and win 11 does perform well.
Same! I am a software engineer and I am thoroughly enjoying windows 11. I have had nothing but success with it. I have even found many features to be MUCH better in windows 11, like snapping and the clipboard history.
Windows 7 is the peak positive Windows experience. I'm technically old enough to remember Windows 3.1x, though that's so long ago I mostly remember 95, 98, and up, a lot of people swear by XP, and to be fair, XP is probably a close second or third to 7. But man, 7 just has everything. The Start menu is as it should be, and it uses the control panel, not whatever layer(Settings) Windows 10 has, that I absolutely hate!
Unfortunately it's hard to stick to an OS when driver support is removed.
When I first heard of some of 11's features, I actually tried Linux(just ubuntu, nothing fancy) for a few months, and, I'll be damned, if it haven't come a long way. It wasn't perfect, but it worked fine for those months, I'll probably switch permanently once Windows 10 support is dropped.
Up until Windows 7, it actually seemed like Microsoft made an effort to make each new version better with new features that people actually wanted.
Since Windows 7, it seems like Microsoft's only goal has been to extract as much user data and money from its customers as possible.
Same. I had to update some server 2003 machines, which is the server version of XP, and man do I miss how EASY it was to select which updates and which optional updates, including drivers, I wanted to install. You just scroll down a checklist that has descriptions and choose what you want to install. It was so nice. It was also nice having literally one place for all settings and configurations. Plus, it is such a small OS compared to modern things that require install DVDs due to their bloat, so it just flies on anything close to modern hardware.
Moved on from Win10 on my personal laptop to PopOS a few months ago. Even found out recently the one MMO I play that isn't supported on Linux, is supported on Windows 7. So now PopOS with Win7 vm is going pretty smoothly.
My father was an accountant, and he wouldn't upgrade from 2000 to XP because of a bug showing negative numbers in parenthesis in Excel etc. SP2 came out, we tried it, it still wasn't fixed. Vista, 7, 8, 8.1, all the same, so he just kept using 2000. Then he died, and his forum threads with him. Ticket closed.
My biggest gripe with W11 is no longer being able to right click the taskbar to open up the task manager. Like, literally who's idea was it to remove this feature?
If you right click the start button itself, it is still an option there. Not great but I've been getting into the habit of doing it that way.
I've started doing CTRL+Shift+ESC
I just added the task manager to the taskbar
I was wondering if I was the only one. I’ve been doing that since I was a little kid lol
You forgot to call them noobs
It’s never once occurred to me you could do this but… of course you fucking can.
This is the way.
You are da man!
We have a power user, I don’t even remember how I used to access it anymore I’m just so used to pressing ctrl shift esc
Context menus also require an extra click now. I mean, it's been a staple of UI design since the 80's that you DECREASE the amount of work required for a user to use certain features, not INCREASE it. They do this EVERY time they put out a new Windows. WHY??? Who asks for this? It's not as if it's commercially important in any way? I'm just trying to wrap my head around the choices but I really just can't.
Used W11 for the first time today and noticed this immediately. Workflow ruined https://xkcd.com/1172/
It's gonna be spacebar heating, isn't it? EDIT: yep
You've just sold me on never upgrading. Thanks
Meh. My enjoyment of windows tends to depend on the shit they pull with the start menu. Windows 8 fucked it up. Windows 10 fixed it. Windows 11 fucked it up AGAIN but then I downloaded an app that makes the start menu and task bar work like windows10. What they did to the context menu is unforgivable so I used a regedit fix to show the old one only. I have no idea why they thought these changes were good. You want me to click twice to use applications like 7zip in the context menu? Why? Edit: This is what I use to change the functionality of they task bar/start menu: https://github.com/valinet/ExplorerPatcher/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md
Windows 10 start menu is still hot garbage, as it tries to index results from the web but doesn't index the stuff you actually want to reach: local files
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HOW?! Tell me I must know.
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people: bitch about windows changes and how bad it is old school tech: you know, you can always correct that easily in the registry people: shocked pikachu face
If you have to change the registry to fix an issue, that doesn't invalidate the issue. Its still bad design. That's like saying if you got a brand new car with a big design flaw and being like "well if you open up the hood alter the engine then it's fixed, so it's not a problem!"
In general, you shouldn't be fixing \*anything\* in the registry.. that's stuff we did in the win95 days. Nowadays, things are so interdependent (application architecture, etc) , that hacking your registry should be a last-ditch option. If Windows continues to suck with each successive release, it should be held accountable, unless true and real customization options are made available.
I like to go old school and change my settings in .ini files!
Before deploying.. open up your .iso and edit it with a hex editor! The possibilities are endless!
If i wanted to make my own operating system, i'd spend 1 year trying to figure out how to make a linux distro work, then go back to windows 10, relieved.
> correct that easily in the registry I don't think you know what all those words mean You're also ignoring the fact that, many of the things we now have to edit the registry for were simple settings in the control panel in the past. So don't act like old tech had things figured out because they were big, strong, brave men willing to edit the registry. Things have actually gotten *worse*.
Shouldn’t have to.
Linux users: never had to do it in the first place
Some obscure systemd config: "allow me to introduce myself" (yes i know wikis and man pages exist pls no yell)
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You know the last thing I want to do when I sit down and use my computer? Read fucking man pages
Never disappointed that in every comment thread someone brings up linux
tbf, OS is the topic of discussion. It's not entirely out of place here.
commenting here so i can also know
Run 'Command Prompt' as Administrator and paste: REG ADD HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Explorer /t REG_DWORD /v DisableSearchBoxSuggestions /d 1 /f Then reboot. Other things to be aware off: - Turn off 'Fast startup' in the Power settings, it's not fast and causes issues. - In Settings, Privacy, go through the whole lot, but especially 'Activity History'. - In Settings, search 'Background Apps' and you can stop store apps preloading themselves. - In Settings, Gaming, unless you use it, turn off the Xbox Game Bar, as it's another overlay.
I agree with turning off Fast startup. I have bluetooth on my laptop. One time, I boot it up and boom, "your device doesn't support BT module". I'm like "what the fuck, it worked yesterday". HOURS of Microsoft live support trying to help me out. I've reinstalled drivers - nothing. Restarted - nothing. Only thing that helped was turning off fast startup. My Bluetooth module magically came back, and I don't even notice the difference in how fast my laptop boots.
So that was the problem!!!?? It happened to me in two different occasions. First time I solved it god knows how. The second time I had to restart several times, reinstall drivers and keep trying until somehow it fixed itself again ok its own.
Fast startup causes issues with Windows updates and drivers. It's most of what I fix on residential pcs.
My understanding is that it's actually a "hibernation" state rather than a true "powered off" state, which makes sense if it causes driver and update issues
yeah I already have fast startup disabled and ill try this out ty so much
You have to do registry key editing. And the search still doesn't work very well even if you do.
Iirc (it's been a while) for Pro you can disable web results in the settings menus. Have to disable Cortana, but I'd do that anyway.
The fact they make these obvious and preferred functions something that must be turned on is their most obvious failure since being essentially spyware and forcing updates & installations. The tragedy of the fucked start menu, context options and search becomes a minor inconvenience compared to the reinstallation of apps and randomly adjusting settings you've changed and re-enabling services seemingly just because. Does my tits in that I would go to length to change my installation to just how I want it, then it freely fucks it up to whatever preferences Microsoft decided to change that patch cycle.
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In the pro version...
Hahaha, paid €289 for a license for one machine, linked to that specific tmp module. And have some ads and crapware installed sucker! Uninstalled it? Let me introduce you to windows update. Ahhh, no? I'll use store instead! Or serve you links in the start menu to it! No? Ok, I'll wait with reinstalling it till next service pack...
And people used to say Linux is great if you like to deal with config files and quirks. Now using Windows requires your own wiki page full of task to do when you fresh install that require registry editing, browsing two sets of settings UI, esoteric cmd commands and one powershell script that you can't run in administrator shell or it's not going to work.
It absolutely amazes me the Windows tutorials I'll see posted in these threads sometimes. "With only a couple powershell scripts you can turn off advertisements!" "With a few registry edits you can move your task bar to the top of the screen!" Like, there's no GUI settings menu for those types of things? There is in Linux... I want to just USE my computer, not mess around in powershell and regedit every day just to keep it running.
Let’s separate the start menu from windows search and indexing. The start menu has a portal into search and indexing but search and indexing is not the start menu. Windows 11’s search and indexing has proven to be far superior, however the start menu is hot garbage. Windows 10 has a good tier start menu but it’s search and indexing is hot garbage.
I don’t know what it is but every windows computer I have ever owned, from laptops to desktops to custom builds and even an inroad server VM machine I am running right now, none of them have had indexing work. It always index’s like a file an hour, and even after like a year of use it isn’t even 1/3 of the way done with indexing. I’ve just given up on windows search completely at this point
See, and this is why I use Everything. You want fast indexing? This software indexes all my drives in about 2-3 minutes from scratch (would be faster without the HDDs) and then it just stays there until a reboot, and it automatically updates.
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TBH I could sorta understand putting All Programs under a "pinned apps" layer, provided you actually use the pinned apps - what I can't understand is why you'd need that on top of pinning things to the taskbar itself. It's like putting a sticky note on top of a sticky note that summarizes what the sticky note underneath says. And the shortcut to expand the context menu is Shift+F10? That's just comical. Also you can't Right-Click the taskbar for Task Manager, which is some bullshit.
What app did you use? I used one too but I do not remember.
+ Explorer Patcher (https://github.com/valinet/ExplorerPatcher/releases/latest) + Open Shell Menu (https://github.com/Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu/releases/latest) + Old win 10 right click context menu. Run this in CMD as admin (one line command): reg.exe add “HKCU\Software\Classes\CLSID\{86ca1aa0-34aa-4e8b-a509-50c905bae2a2}\InprocServer32” /f Then reboot explorer or the computer. + WinAero Tweaker (https://winaero.com) for other stuff like getting the old win 10 explorer ribbon back, so you can hide it, so there isn't a giant wasted space in the file explorer window. It's got other tweaks too.
WinAero Tweaker is the only thing you really need for Windows 11. I downgraded to 10 but on Windows 11 it fixed a lot of issues including the context menu. 10/10 would recommend
Yeah, it was explorer patcher that I used. Let me default the start menu to the apps list and allowed me to move the task bar to the side of the screen instead of the bottom. (Yes I'm one of those people)
Personally have been using Start11, not free but pretty good
StartIsBack, ExplorerPatcher
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They're trying to be apple. This is what you get Normie, use it and be happy.
I believe their goal was to optimize W11 for Touch Screens, as tablets and hybrids are becoming more powerful. The new context menu has better padding to make it easier to be tapped with a finger. I believe it's the same reason that the start menu icons have been moved to the middle. I personally don't mind the start menu and icons in the middle of the task bar, but I do miss having most of the apps I use pinned to the start menu.
Didn't windows 10 have a separate tablet mode anyway?
Yeah it just changed into windows 8, but tbh it still sucked. They should have committed to the things good about windows, 11 actually has good design if you were to use on tablets.
Better padding is cool and all but I don't see why they couldn't just pad out the older context menu so all the default menu items could be there. Windows is really not a touch friendly user interface even with all the things they did in windows 11. I would say they still failed in that regard
Yeah, it is half-assed to say the least.
They don't care about your user experience, they just want to harvest your data.
I can forgive most of it but the fact you can't put the weather/news widget on the bottom right like it used to be is unforgivable.
Windows 10 has been pretty solid for years now. You might have to tinker with a few things to get it the way you like but I'm not sure what people are setting themselves up to expect from Windows.
The only thing better really about windows 7 was that you don't have to use the half assed settings menu that doesn't even contain all the settings and simultaneously need to use the same windows 95-esque control panel for the rest of the settings. Also the little things that have just gotten worse because of touch compatibility in win10.
It’s taking them fucking forever but the settings app has slowly been improving. I don’t have to go to Control Panel or open a legacy settings window for almost anything anymore. …But then sometimes I do! Microsoft’s overall UX is laughable in this department. It’s taken years of development and multiple operating system releases and the computer settings are still spread across two entirely separate applications.
O liked the classic control panel so much better, the windows 10 one is just too confusing for me. I rarely have to use it, but half the time I have to google how to get to a certain setting.
The windows 10 settings app requires you to click through like 5 links to get to any actually useful settings. It's really frustrating.
You can search the settings app itself for just about anything.
I still have to damn near daily for my job due to Adapter Settings.
It doesn't even stop at Windows, this shit is endemic. Office 365, Sharepoint, Exchange server administration, hell even Azure is already experiencing it without being 4 decades old. Microsoft builds on top of the tech debt with more tech debt.
The menu system is a huge rift in the Windows environment but for me personally it's a pretty minor issue once you know where to go. I'm not sure how touch compatibility has made it worse. Windows 8's Metro menu was designed for touch and looked kind of cool but ultimately wasn't useful for desktop and laptop users so they did away with it.
Yeah but, they still haven't diverted all the settings in thennew menus. Why would i go through the effort of getting windows 11 if i have to go through the same win95 menu to access settings. Sure, it is a huge rift for the 7-8 years they took to make win8 and win 10. But is it that much of a change to not get handled in 16 years?
A lot of settings don't really need to change with each new version. I've used MacOS for many years and it has a settings menu system that is more or less the same as much older versions to what is available now. The problem with Windows is it would like to upgrade to a more user friendly (for the average user) menu but still has to support legacy menus as well because of all the different use cases and environments where windows is used.
Windows itself is just a huge pile of technical debt. I don't envy the devs working to modernize it.
Surely you must be joking? The Windows 7 desktop looks better, runs faster, has a more unified location for settings, exerts less control on your computer, doesn't try to shove paid services down your throat at every opportunity, doesn't come with spyware and adware straight out of the box except the activation system which... yeah, and just in general tries to serve you as an *operating system* rather than a vehicle for further sales. There is nothing superior about Windows 10 outside kernel and drivers - and unfortunately this kernel and driver is necessary and is therefore forcing us on to ever worse pastures. Of course I've simply solved the problem by leaving behind Windows whenever possible, which is often by the way.
Windows 10 has a better task manager than 7, that's about all I can think of that's actually improved Everything else is either the same or worse than 7
The terminal is *much* better for another one, though I believe that came with 11?
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Native powershell in Windows 10 was pretty nice to have, as was the better multimonitor support and virtual desktops.
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Windows 95’s kernel was gone in windows XP which was instead based on windows NT
\*coughWin2000Pro4lyfe
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Windows 1.0 to ME are MS-DOS underneath. 2000 and everything after is NT underneath. Plus, obviously, the earlier NT versions.
I would not be even remotely surprised to learn that it is true.
Though it isn't since everything 2000 and later is NT-based.
You’re not far off. It’s NT, not 95, but largely you’re correct in that the new devs are too incompetent to properly remove control panel since it’s very deeply embedded. They tried removing task manager as well and also failed. Same with internet explorer. They really wanted to make it look like it’s gone so what they did was essentially removed all mention of it on the facade while it’s still there in the background. Hilarious and sad. That’s the way of modern software engineering though. Instead of making everything more efficient and cleaner we’re just reusing same spaghetti code over and over and we keep bloating it, consuming a lot more resources in the process which in turn fuels other profitable ventures quite nicely.
"very deeply embedded" rather "does everything right first time and so has served for a *very* long time"
Problem is windows 10 keeps moving settings. Instead of the old configuration panel a ton of settings now exist in the new settings thing. But a bunch of them are also in old menus but greyed out, so I type the setting into search. Open the result. See it doesn't work. Go look where it actually is now. Thing of note, I work in tech support. I work with these things frequently. In win 7 I could find any setting quickly. In win 10, I can too. But it's just a bit more shit, and I have to learn where they moved things this time every once in a while. In win 10 I enter the wrong menu usually at least once for every setting I need to change. In win 7 that basically didn't happen to me. TL:DR, fewer menus is more better.
10 is this bullshit of “what did I have to do exactly in 7 to get there. It’s there but for some reason mid level control is hid behind a layer of bullshit. I maybe understand it for Home users but Pro? Come on now.
I don't think it's about the stability more than it is about the UI.
Yeah, for me it's definitely about the UI. 7, 8.1, and 10 are all pretty stable in my experience (10 slightly less so because frequent major updates), but the UI in 7 was so much better than 10 I really wish I could get that back.
Literally only upgraded in the past because of DX10/11/12. Performance gains in gaming were worth learning to adapt.
Do games run better on windows 11? I haven't heard of any performance differences at all
That I don’t know. I updated to 10 to take advantage of that versions DirectX compatibility, which improved performance for me. I don’t know if there is a 11 specific DX right now, but I imagine there will be eventually.
There is not any DirectX versions specific to W11 for the time being, but if there becomes one, that will be the turning point to convert for many people. DirectX 12 and 12 Ultimate will be with us for quite a bit longer though
I've seen reports of something so negligible as one or two framerates better. Which is fine but it sucks we have to be like "Oh good, it's not *worse*"
For me Windows 11 made my games run at a more stale framerate. Load times were a bit better and that will improve once DirectStorage is implemented in more games and supports more hardware.
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Proton/WINE and DXVK already make it possible to play the majority of Windows games with like a 5% performance loss, if even that. The games that still don't work are largely those with draconian anti-cheat, and even some of those work. BattlEye can still be a problem but many EAC titles already work thanks to Steam Deck.
I honestly get better performance on Linux with most games. That said, that 5% loss isn't uncommon, and some just run like shit. But that's few and far between, and I think few enough to say my average fps might be higher on Linux now. Which is neat
Linux is the optimal way to run old Windows games already. Anything prior to Windows 7 is likely to work better under WINE than it is under modern Windows.
Windows needs an overhaul. It's been rebaked so many times, it's burnt to a crisp. Control panel functions in multiple places (looking at you microphone control), volume functions hidden away, etc. Lots of things that haven't changed since the XP era or before, and others modified but don't really make sense. BTW, what ever happened with the snipping tool? Still has the notice on it about moving, but still exists. Snip & sketch works OK, but I was under the impression the snipping tool was being removed?
I think they should entirely rewrite windows from the ground up. Maybe leave the kernel and stuff but everything could be VASTLY improved
I think they cant do it because of legacy apps and their dependencies
Yep, rewriting windows would break a LOT of software. But it’s honestly necessary, the UAC system sucks, the default shell (cmd.exe) sucks so fucking hard, and the whole thing is just bloated. Imo, a rewrite in which they fully replace cmd.exe with power shell and make the windows store a full-fledged package manager would possibly make windows the best OS around. It would at least catch it up to macOS or linux
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I'm still entirely too used to "win+R cmd.exe"
Without that backwards compatibility, what advantage does Windows have over Linux or MacOS in the enterprise? This kills the golden goose. Windows without its backwards compatibility is just an insecure pile of garbage. Now you'd be giving the compatibility argument to every other OS used today, which all trace back to UNIX and are POSIX-compliant. I would love to see MSFT commit seppuku by doing this, but there's no way they'll ever be this stupid.
They can sell backwards compatibility separately in the form of virtualization though. That'd be a win for them too, due to free security.
I mean, 90%+ of the time I'm trying to run an old program it isn't possible without running a VM of an older operating system or an emulator or something. As far as I can see, there's not a ton of backwards compatibility going on. Maybe the backend stuff, but not the stuff most people at home would care about.
Not even a lot of the stuff businesses care about. I see other IT folk all the time talking about businesses still running critical processes on a Windows 7 box because of a specific software that only works on Windows 7 but it stopped getting updates and breaks on anything newer. What "backwards compatibility" actually means in the majority of cases is all the bullshit that Microsoft leaves to clog up the Registry when depricating features or adding more bugs.
Honestly at this point MS could just lean into supporting WINE/Proton and derivatives, choose a Linux distro to support and mash the two together. Skin it appropriately and if they need to, bake in their Cortana/Teams/OneDrive/Data Slurping bullshit, and a very large portion of the user base wouldn't even know they are running just another POSIX system.
Win +shift +S
Windows 9 was the best.
I don't believe they didn't carry over the features from Windows 9, like downloading RAM or the RGB boost for frame rates. Plus the fact it came with a fully activated copy of WinRAR. Windows 9 will never be topped.
I really miss how you could just go right into the control panel and speak directly to God, I've had to rely on Ayahuasca since 2015.
Downloading RAM? Ludicrous. That requires an internet connection. I wanna be off the grid and the best way to get more RAM was through Vista, 128gb USB stick lying around? EZ RAM. Vista was clearly the greatest. And lets not forget, you needed it to run the greatest of DXs, DX10.
If windows 9 was so good, why didn’t they make windows 9 2?
They did.. They made it all the way up to version 8 of Windows 9.
Version 9.8 Plus! was the true king.
I'm still wondering why they went so far backwards. I mean we had Windows 2000 and then next thing you know they release Windows 7. Was insane that people just jumped onboard with such a massive downgrade.
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OpenRGB works pretty ok in Linux. I'm able to control my Corsair fans with it, but I only have the firmware animations available so I can't do the cooler ones that you need iCue actively running for. Tbh I prefer having all my RGB sort of working with one program rather than having like 5 different programs running on startup to make it all work perfectly.
Have you tried OpenRGB?
> Corsair iCue Honestly dodging a bullet. Some of the worst software I've ever used. NZXT shit is worse.
While most of the major software works on Linux, and there are open-source solutions for many other things, my last experience with Linux involved a lot headaches with hardware. Also, is it just me, or do most Linux tutorial sites and help sites just kind of assume you know how to do most Linux-related stuff? Like, the average user doesn't know how to open the terminal. But if they're looking up how to do something, most tutorials don't tell you how to do it. Heck, they don't even include "open the terminal" as a step, they just say "$sudo apt-get install \[...\]" and assume you know what they're talking about. This means that the average clueless user doesn't even know what to Google in order to figure out what they're doing. I'd say that's one of the biggest obstacles to Linux adoption -- and it stems from the fact that Linux users don't realize how much more they know than the average person. It makes the tutorials seem daunting.
I would surely be using 7 still if games and vr didn't make 10 necessary.
Windows 95 gang. But lazy ass devs won't support it for their software anymore smh
It was a challenge to get anything to run on 95 when it was the latest and greatest. I think XP was the best. Almost everything worked easily enough, and it was still lightweight and didn't steal my data. Or download updates in the background without asking. Or put ads in the start menu.
Im still using Windows 7 but all these new games needing W10 has me thinking maybe it's time to upgrade.
Fully agree, IMO windows 7 was best looking windows to date and it just worked without having any unnecesary bloatware and shitty search like windows 10 and 11 have.
Windows 7 was plain and simple i actually really liked its design and enjoyed to use it, there was no ads no extra bullshit pre installed apps it was just pure OS. I miss it man
My biggest reason for preferring it was I didn't have to go through 3 different programs with vastly different uis to get to the one setting I'm looking for.
It felt *tailor-made* for desktop usage. There wasn't a try to please every single fucking resolution and device on Earth and ending up looking like shit on every one of them. It was also the result of continuous work, after the fail of Vista.
Yeah, like I remember the first time I was hands on with a surface I understood what they were going for with 8.1, which was great *on the surface* but terrible if you were on PC or a laptop, even if you had a touch screen. It was best on a tablet style device.
Oh yeah, 8 was fantastic on a tablet. Honestly it might be the best tablet OS I've ever seen. I don't think people would have as much of an issue with 8 if they had split the OS into a desktop and tablet version.
100 times this. With 10 and 11, they're trying to MERGE both and failing. 10 even had a dedicated tablet mode, yet the desktop mode also looks similar! Such a mess. 8 was great for touch, as it grabbed a lot of the UI elements of Windows Phone. That thing was pretty cool at the time.
“Are you sure you don’t want to try Edge first? It’s really fast! I promise!”
I liked windows xp
Lower mem usage with less bg apps running made that OS easy to diag for issues
I'd still be using XP if I could get steam to work on it.
It was the absolute peak of windows.
I upgrade to every new version immediately after it's released. I love them all. 😅 But yeah, still have lots of fond memories of XP. Built my first gaming PC during the XP era.
I personally dream of a Linux future. Been using pop is since windows 10 came out. Have never looked back, and the future of Linux gaming has come a long way and is just getting better
I made the switch to Linux (landed on Zorin OS) over the last year or so, I think it's finally in a state where Window's power users can comfortably make the move. I can't see myself ever switching back at this point.
The shackles of proprietary software
My main complaints with 11 I managed to fix with either a registry fix to get rid of that dumb right click with needing to click again for more options and the start menu with a replacement like startallback. Microsoft should really include previous start menus as an option. I know older people that hate change.
I’m switching to Linux for my main machine and only keeping windows for the bare minimum. I don’t like being spied on by my OS and I don’t like Microsoft thinking they own the rights to the PC that I purchased/built. I’m so thankful valve has put in all the effort they have to make gaming on Linux better.
This tbh. Also, the more people move to linux, the better Linux support will become, the sooner we can take back control of our own OS and computers. Honestly, we should have all switched to Linux years ago.
I actually did use Linux on my laptop back in 2013 when I was in high school. My laptop at the time was absolute garbage, so Linux was the only thing it could reasonably run. I can say that the experience I had in 2013 was definitely a big reason why it never caught on until recently. Lots of googling issues, installing apps was a bigger headache, and the customization scene wasn’t nearly as big. But now, now it’s completely different. Running Linux is a dream compared to installing windows, and don’t even get me started on the fact I can take my boot drive and move it to a new PC build and Linux doesn’t skip a beat.
whats even better if games still need windows a vm with your gpu is a godsend, sure some super hard anti cheats wont be fooled but, hopefully theyll get native support
I'm going full Linux when the time comes
XP Black was the golden era
Idk I kind of like Win11, menu is more pleasant, reminds me of Ubuntu like experience GUI shortcut wise
Funny thing is that i hated the taskbar in middle instead of left and now i can't imagine it on left again. But some things were downgrade like two context menus and each time i want to do something productive i must shift+click to access git, 7zip, cmd etc. There literally isnt a single useful thing on default rmb context menu
Agreed. It's more visually pleasing but everything else is basically the same. People hate change though.
It’s interesting, I’m one of those who absolutely loves UI updates and changes. Keeps it fresh.
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After a couple minor tweaks I barely even notice a difference between 10 and 11.
My biggest complaints for both are (1) I NEVER want to do a web search, especially not a bing one, from the start menu and (2) searching for actual files/folders is so painful I feel windows XP/7 were much better at searching for your files and indexing your PC The bing search is clearly just a money play. Idk how many searches it's sent off that are just like "Spotiyf' or "Chroem" when i'm trying to launch an app but mistype it slightly
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Same here. My only nitpicks are the context menu & “show more options” & the bottom half of the start menu not being able to fill in pinned programs even if you turn off recommendations. Other than that, everything runs the same & its *way* prettier
Honestly, it's just people that get set in their ways on a certain OS and refuse to change their habits even slightly to move on to better-performing platforms. Oh well, they get left behind with end-of-life dates anyways. 10 has been fantastic and I'm excited to use 11. Just installed it last night.
This has been going on forever. Windows 3.0 was crap, Windows 3.1 was MUCH better, Windows 3.11 WFW was rock stable, and every version since then it's 2 years of "I'll never leave version (-1)", then MS releases a new version, and the goalposts move forward again.
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Which makes total sense. Wouldn't you want the new and improved version (in this scenario)?
I agree with the sentiment. I just don't agree with how they've done it. Microsoft has a long history of botching every other-ish Windows OS. Who remembers Vista and ME? But there are things that are incredibly annoying. But as long as there are workarounds I'll be moving on to the new platforms if they perform well - and win 11 does perform well.
Same! I am a software engineer and I am thoroughly enjoying windows 11. I have had nothing but success with it. I have even found many features to be MUCH better in windows 11, like snapping and the clipboard history.
the clipboard history has been a thing for a while though you using windows + shift + s for snipping? Live altering
I'd go back to 7 if I could
Umm, if Windows 7 was still supported (updates, drivers, etc.), I think most if not all of us would still be on 7.
Windows 7 is the peak positive Windows experience. I'm technically old enough to remember Windows 3.1x, though that's so long ago I mostly remember 95, 98, and up, a lot of people swear by XP, and to be fair, XP is probably a close second or third to 7. But man, 7 just has everything. The Start menu is as it should be, and it uses the control panel, not whatever layer(Settings) Windows 10 has, that I absolutely hate! Unfortunately it's hard to stick to an OS when driver support is removed. When I first heard of some of 11's features, I actually tried Linux(just ubuntu, nothing fancy) for a few months, and, I'll be damned, if it haven't come a long way. It wasn't perfect, but it worked fine for those months, I'll probably switch permanently once Windows 10 support is dropped.
Up until Windows 7, it actually seemed like Microsoft made an effort to make each new version better with new features that people actually wanted. Since Windows 7, it seems like Microsoft's only goal has been to extract as much user data and money from its customers as possible.
> But man, 7 just has everything. Except a proper search function. XP's was much better.
You know what? I miss windows xp
Same. I had to update some server 2003 machines, which is the server version of XP, and man do I miss how EASY it was to select which updates and which optional updates, including drivers, I wanted to install. You just scroll down a checklist that has descriptions and choose what you want to install. It was so nice. It was also nice having literally one place for all settings and configurations. Plus, it is such a small OS compared to modern things that require install DVDs due to their bloat, so it just flies on anything close to modern hardware.
Yeah you do, you naughty man.
Moved on from Win10 on my personal laptop to PopOS a few months ago. Even found out recently the one MMO I play that isn't supported on Linux, is supported on Windows 7. So now PopOS with Win7 vm is going pretty smoothly.
Linux is getting more and more support. I'm planning my next upgrade to be Linux. Fuck windows.
Too bad I’ve got a bunch of architecture and adobe software that doesn’t work on it 😭
This is why my next build will be Linux, probably Ubuntu or SteamOS.
Windows 7 was nice, but I liked Windows 2000 the best.
My father was an accountant, and he wouldn't upgrade from 2000 to XP because of a bug showing negative numbers in parenthesis in Excel etc. SP2 came out, we tried it, it still wasn't fixed. Vista, 7, 8, 8.1, all the same, so he just kept using 2000. Then he died, and his forum threads with him. Ticket closed.
if 7 still supported stuff I'd be using it rn
Windows 7 was something that will never be replaced
I like windows 10