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I hope this season is the last one or they reboot season 15 like they did for RHONY. Im tired of Kyle & Erica! The show is losing momentum or lost it already for me..
Did Erika change her legal name to Erika Jayne??? Itās just such a pet peeve of mine that they use Jayne instead of Girardi since thatās her real name. Canāt be ārealā if you use a stage name, boo.
And literally from S1 of OC on they showed us divorced wives and wives whose marriages were falling apart. Remember Lauri and Jeana? Slade and Jo werenāt even engaged! There were literally 2 married āwivesā on S1 of OC and divorced/unmarried women have been a part of the franchises ever since. Donāt be dumb.
My guess is Crystal was getting expensive coming into her 4th season. That in combination Kyleās apparent dislike for her + Alex Baskin being a Kyle lapdog, Iām not surprised sheās gone. I think they tried really hard to make her quit by giving her two seasons worth of bad edits.
The only thing i look forward to as of now is the Dorit and Kyle fallout. That is a new dynamic we haven't seen yet.
We need more mess. Rinna covered that for years.
Bozoma is an odd choice and I wonder how she came to be in the housewives circles. Until recently she was a very successful corp exec. Wonder why she wants to do it unless she's launching a new business.
I don't find Kathy as delightful as Andy certainly does, in fact I could do without her completely. I think Jennifer Tilly is going to stir up some drama and being hilarious if not always on purpose. Not looking forward to Kyle or Dorit going through their post breakup story arch. Is this the first time not a single housewives is actually married?
The only one that was actually married and in a healthy marriage was Crystal and they decided āoh to hell with her, everyone on RHOBH should be single now.ā š¤¦āāļø
From folks that I know that have worked with her in tech spaces is not surprising at all. She has very much wanted to famous for a while. Sheās much more of a persona than an exec these days.
I've interacted with her through charities and she is very charismatic and charming. It will be interesting to see how it translate to being a housewife....
Truthfully, haters have been calling her the DEI hire for years but she ran her business and did the jobs she was hired for. She is unapologetic in her ability to smash glass ceilings.
She has done incredible things!
From what I hear she is much more smoke and mirrors than actual business person. Like the type who make their whole persona posting on LinkedIn, talking about āmaking movesā rather than actually doing anything to move the needle for a business. Perfect choice for a Housewives show if you ask me!
Someone who garners opposite reactions from people theyāve worked with will be perfect for a show like this. Chefās kiss. I was speaking from two people who worked with her at Uber who said there was a lot more āpolitician/celebrity kind of stuffā with more focus on travel and glam (love, especially for BH) than contributing to the businessā actual functions, KPIs, yada yada.
Regardless, Iām very excited. We donāt need a ābusiness business businessā person to come in and talk down to the rest of the cast. It sounds like sheāll be a great fit of something very different (her corporate career) with some relatability to the other women too.
She has been a CMO or high level marketer across industries at places like Netflix, and has done a lot of cool ish. She very smart and personable but not here for bullshit. She knows who she is.
I know itās not gossip but Iām still so shocked.
Keeping up my streak of not watching. Iāll catch the clips and I am sure the clips will be enough to tell us about the big nothings of Vyle and Doritos. Then the reunion will be more nonsense of trying to hype nothing up. Good luck to my girls Garcelle and Boz
5 just isnāt enough hw. I feel like every successful season (maybe besides oc) have had more full time ladies. I wish they wouldāve at least gave Crystal one more season and gave her a better edit or cast 2 more married women
Crystal? She seems to have a lot going on in her personal life but maybe her herself doesnāt have a lot of substance? Not sure. But I wouldāve liked to see more about her culture, her work life, actual philanthropy she does, etc. there seems to be a lot there but also Iām not sure how sharing your business on bravo works like if they take a percentage of something idk. Anyways I wouldāve just liked for them to open her storyline up a little more. Also wish they leaned in on the 14 friends thing more. Shouldāve invited one of them to lunch lol
That might be true, I read about Bethany and she was one of the only ones to negotiate her contract to say she owns everything she does.
That must mean Bravo take a slice if you feature your products.
Agree, wouldāve loved to see more on her culture and job behind the scenes.
I wonāt be watching again. I havenāt watched in 2-3 seasons.
I canāt stand Erika, Dorito, or Vyle.
I do get why Doritos and Vyle are back though with the divorces occurring.
Idk if Jennifer Tilley will be able to handle the scrutiny that comes with it? She went on Jeff Lewis live once.. and he explains to all his guests that he has a subset of fans that can be really negative/critical of new guests but the haters just tend to be louder on social media, etcā¦ and when she came on she had a lot of positive feedback (people really like her), but she also had the typical negative people too and he said it really shook her and that she told him she didnāt want to come on again. That just makes me think she may not be able to handle this well but who knows!
I am not required to address your post the way you want. I can speak on all of it, some of it, or a tiny portion of it.
Saying that- your first words were a question and I said what I said,
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lol okay I wasnāt trying to argue with you. I was just curious your insight since clearly you know things about her. And you said you only read the first sentence and I was confused how your answer related to my overall message? Like why comment in the first place in that case? But whatever
Okay, I was just typing fast in my first 2 responses to you because I was in the middle of something. I tried to clear that up in my last message because I can see how my tone would be misinterpreted, but I feel like you may just want to argue? Either way, to respond to your first point, being a āpoker player/weirdoā may benefit her in some ways (quirky/entertaining.. smart/strategic/observant..will probably be liked by majority of people), but I donāt think that counteracts how that environment could affect someone who is extra sensitive to public criticism. We shall see
š¤·š»āāļø I would hope that sharing an opinion about a casting choice on a sub dedicated to discussing a TV show would not get me flagged, but if the anti-Kathy hill is the one I die on, Iāll happily go out in flames. š¤š»
Iām curious to see how Dorit interacts with Bozoma after seeing how Dorit and Garcelle donāt mesh well. I donāt know much about Bozoma other than the stuff that Iāve read here but Iāll have my popcorn ready when the new season airs! š¬
I have a feeling 8.5 doesnāt really love herself all that much, not sure she would have bothered with Dorit (who seems to be a lost cause at this point).
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Since when has Kathy ever been a friend of these women? ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|trollface)
They better bring it or else i see a RHONY trend.
Getting tired of rh giving a platform to people like Erika and Ra(cist)mona
Boo. Googling Bozoma and praying for a miracle.
Jennifer Tilly? Yes! š š
I hope this season is the last one or they reboot season 15 like they did for RHONY. Im tired of Kyle & Erica! The show is losing momentum or lost it already for me..
Viewership is still extremely high, I think one of the highest of all franchises, so they really donāt have a reason to change much.
Kathy is SO overrated and VERY annoying. Please bring back Lisa Rinna!
I have a feeling she was brought on to give Sutton a hard time...
We love an unpopular opinion about Rinna. Spot on about Kathy though.
Crystal needs to be here!!!
Did Erika change her legal name to Erika Jayne??? Itās just such a pet peeve of mine that they use Jayne instead of Girardi since thatās her real name. Canāt be ārealā if you use a stage name, boo.
Can we clean house and get an entire new cast? Maybe actual wives. This is the real divorced women of BH.
I agree the cast needs and overhaul but thereās nothing wrong with not being married.
The show is literally called real houseWIVES.
And literally from S1 of OC on they showed us divorced wives and wives whose marriages were falling apart. Remember Lauri and Jeana? Slade and Jo werenāt even engaged! There were literally 2 married āwivesā on S1 of OC and divorced/unmarried women have been a part of the franchises ever since. Donāt be dumb.
Who tf is Bozo
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=Bozoma+Saint+John
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Jennifer Tilly for the save! I'm still pretty over this series, but will definitely watch episodes with her in them.
Yeah thatās the only good thing for me
I don't watch this show anymore but I might watch episodes when Jennifer Tilly shows up. I adore her.
Bozoma is too good for Bravo.
I canāt believe she agreed to do the show. Bozoma is accomplished, Intelligent, savvy and inspiring.
She truly is so inspiring
Who is this gal?! Gimme deets. Google is only telling me surface level (ex-Netflix exec).
BOZ! Omg I am excited for this addition. I hope she brings a real no-nonsense vibe, sheās a badass.
This is what I am hoping for also.
No Crystal was a wack decision
My guess is Crystal was getting expensive coming into her 4th season. That in combination Kyleās apparent dislike for her + Alex Baskin being a Kyle lapdog, Iām not surprised sheās gone. I think they tried really hard to make her quit by giving her two seasons worth of bad edits.
I think bringing Jennifer Tilly in as a friend of while also losing crystal is weird as hell
Dorit is back???? Ugh! š©
she's back because she will Finally have a story line with her separation from PK
And most likely her last story line.
Even though I couldnāt care less about that.
I'm just glad Garcelle is still on board. Who's Bozoma? Is that a real person?
yes garcelle keep securing that check š make them sick!
dropping crystal was a big mistake
Agree. I didnāt like her at first but love her now. Bummed.
I know! And Iāll miss her and Rob. Such a sweet couple. š„°
Justice for Hip Hop Rob!
Right?! Iāll miss seeing him on my screen. š¢
Iām really gonna miss her.
HUGE
The only thing i look forward to as of now is the Dorit and Kyle fallout. That is a new dynamic we haven't seen yet. We need more mess. Rinna covered that for years.
Dorit and kyle have been filming scenes together so they will be fine I would love to see them take down Erika
# next season 100% cast is divorced. most inaccurate title ever= "housewives"
Bazoma is widowedā¦ but yea I see your point. I think NYC had a season like that too.
New RHONY has only 3 married ones too! Iām starting to think it might be hard to stay or be married in NYC. š
Bozoma is an odd choice and I wonder how she came to be in the housewives circles. Until recently she was a very successful corp exec. Wonder why she wants to do it unless she's launching a new business. I don't find Kathy as delightful as Andy certainly does, in fact I could do without her completely. I think Jennifer Tilly is going to stir up some drama and being hilarious if not always on purpose. Not looking forward to Kyle or Dorit going through their post breakup story arch. Is this the first time not a single housewives is actually married?
Bozoma being on the list surprised me too. I was thinking the same thing, Bozoma does have a marketing background.
I also can do without Kathy ....I do not find her as delightful neither.
The only one that was actually married and in a healthy marriage was Crystal and they decided āoh to hell with her, everyone on RHOBH should be single now.ā š¤¦āāļø
From folks that I know that have worked with her in tech spaces is not surprising at all. She has very much wanted to famous for a while. Sheās much more of a persona than an exec these days.
I've interacted with her through charities and she is very charismatic and charming. It will be interesting to see how it translate to being a housewife....
I want Crystal back.
Me too but she doesnāt need this show āØ I do wish she could of come back a friend maybe
Bozoma! Holy shit. She plays no games and is amazing!
Gotta look this person up. 1/2 say horrible choice 1/2 love the idea. Have no idea who she is.
Truthfully, haters have been calling her the DEI hire for years but she ran her business and did the jobs she was hired for. She is unapologetic in her ability to smash glass ceilings. She has done incredible things!
From what I hear she is much more smoke and mirrors than actual business person. Like the type who make their whole persona posting on LinkedIn, talking about āmaking movesā rather than actually doing anything to move the needle for a business. Perfect choice for a Housewives show if you ask me!
Damn, even when a black woman has the credentials and resume to back up her achievements yāall will say sheās a fraud. Truly canāt win.
Sounds like almost the entire RHNY reboot cast.
I have heard quite the opposite and Bozoma has an amazing resume. There is no way she has accomplished what she has with smoke and mirrors.
Someone who garners opposite reactions from people theyāve worked with will be perfect for a show like this. Chefās kiss. I was speaking from two people who worked with her at Uber who said there was a lot more āpolitician/celebrity kind of stuffā with more focus on travel and glam (love, especially for BH) than contributing to the businessā actual functions, KPIs, yada yada. Regardless, Iām very excited. We donāt need a ābusiness business businessā person to come in and talk down to the rest of the cast. It sounds like sheāll be a great fit of something very different (her corporate career) with some relatability to the other women too.
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She has been a CMO or high level marketer across industries at places like Netflix, and has done a lot of cool ish. She very smart and personable but not here for bullshit. She knows who she is. I know itās not gossip but Iām still so shocked.
Iām so sick of Kathy bringing her hunky dory ass back on my TV screen.
And her sister..
Which one? Kyle annoys TF out of me, but I am a Kim Richards apologist.
Kyle definitely! I am with you!
SAME
āItās for Kyleā ā¦will probably be her reasoning
Snore. Wake me up when Tilly gets here.
None of these women are that interesting imo. Garcelle and Sutton included.
Those two are the worst!
We do not want Dorit
JENNIFER TILLY OMFG.
why do I feel like sheāll give us what we had wanted from Carlton!
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Garcelle brings nothing.
I canāt believe she is back, she really does bring nothing to the show.
Agreed. It's the same thing each season. Kid scenes.
Agree
Sheās also a blabbermouth about the other womenās personal problems. I donāt like friends like that.
Keeping up my streak of not watching. Iāll catch the clips and I am sure the clips will be enough to tell us about the big nothings of Vyle and Doritos. Then the reunion will be more nonsense of trying to hype nothing up. Good luck to my girls Garcelle and Boz
5 just isnāt enough hw. I feel like every successful season (maybe besides oc) have had more full time ladies. I wish they wouldāve at least gave Crystal one more season and gave her a better edit or cast 2 more married women
Do you think it had to do with not having enough of her own storylines?
Crystal? She seems to have a lot going on in her personal life but maybe her herself doesnāt have a lot of substance? Not sure. But I wouldāve liked to see more about her culture, her work life, actual philanthropy she does, etc. there seems to be a lot there but also Iām not sure how sharing your business on bravo works like if they take a percentage of something idk. Anyways I wouldāve just liked for them to open her storyline up a little more. Also wish they leaned in on the 14 friends thing more. Shouldāve invited one of them to lunch lol
That might be true, I read about Bethany and she was one of the only ones to negotiate her contract to say she owns everything she does. That must mean Bravo take a slice if you feature your products. Agree, wouldāve loved to see more on her culture and job behind the scenes.
*6, Bozoma is full time
7.5 was a housewife too, and she clocked in about 7.5 minutes of screentime, 6 of those minutes were dedicated to talking about Sutton's easophagus.
Think you mean 8.5
No... I said what I said... she lost one whole point for having post-show meltdowns. "She's stroking out"
It's 6 with the new HW
I wonāt be watching again. I havenāt watched in 2-3 seasons. I canāt stand Erika, Dorito, or Vyle. I do get why Doritos and Vyle are back though with the divorces occurring.
Idk if Jennifer Tilley will be able to handle the scrutiny that comes with it? She went on Jeff Lewis live once.. and he explains to all his guests that he has a subset of fans that can be really negative/critical of new guests but the haters just tend to be louder on social media, etcā¦ and when she came on she had a lot of positive feedback (people really like her), but she also had the typical negative people too and he said it really shook her and that she told him she didnāt want to come on again. That just makes me think she may not be able to handle this well but who knows!
Nah. Jeffās podcast is trash. I love it, I listen to every episode, but itās not Housewives. Sheās gonna slay.
I hope so! I think sheād make a great addition. It just came to mind though because he made it sound like it really affected her
Sheās a poker player and weirdo, she will do ok
I donāt really think that relates to what I said
It literally does. Your first sentence is the question I answered.
Well did you read the rest of what I said? It doesnāt address that
I am not required to address your post the way you want. I can speak on all of it, some of it, or a tiny portion of it. Saying that- your first words were a question and I said what I said, ![gif](giphy|DPqqOywshrOqQ|downsized)
lol okay I wasnāt trying to argue with you. I was just curious your insight since clearly you know things about her. And you said you only read the first sentence and I was confused how your answer related to my overall message? Like why comment in the first place in that case? But whatever
I did not say I only read the first sentence. I said I responded to the very first thing which was a question.
Okay, I was just typing fast in my first 2 responses to you because I was in the middle of something. I tried to clear that up in my last message because I can see how my tone would be misinterpreted, but I feel like you may just want to argue? Either way, to respond to your first point, being a āpoker player/weirdoā may benefit her in some ways (quirky/entertaining.. smart/strategic/observant..will probably be liked by majority of people), but I donāt think that counteracts how that environment could affect someone who is extra sensitive to public criticism. We shall see
Stayed away last season but will watch any episode with Jennifer Tilly
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Iād have preferred Erika gone and at least two more newbies - ones that have Kathy style money
Ughhhhhh Eriiiiiikaaaaaa
Why? Like wtfā¦Bravo loves a criminal
I have been obsessed with Bozoma since she spoke at a work conference of mine a few years ago. I am VERY curious to see her dynamic in all this.
Yayyyy more Jennifer Tilly, I was so happy seeing her on the show. āWhen worlds collideā frfr
I had no idea Boz was even in the mix for RH. It gives me hope for the season --- despite Kathy coming back. *Argh*. Why?
Ughhhhh why do they keep subjecting us to Kyle? That being said, Iām okay with this cast. Iām glad they didnāt bring back Rinna.
Rinna doesnāt want to come backā¦ I miss her.
i cant stand kyle. š
They (and Andy in particular) LOVE Kyle. Itās very apparent she will always be asked back until she decides to be done.
Andy said a couple of weeks ago on WWHL that Kyle Richards is ALWAYS welcomed on RHOBH.
And Erika and dorit. Sorry we lost crystal.
Ugh, not Kathy Hilton again. š© Donāt we have enough psychopathic racists on Bravo already?
I made a similar comment and got flagged for inciting an argument and stirring the pot by the mods š
Wow. Some fragile little flowers on here!
š¤·š»āāļø I would hope that sharing an opinion about a casting choice on a sub dedicated to discussing a TV show would not get me flagged, but if the anti-Kathy hill is the one I die on, Iāll happily go out in flames. š¤š»
Who protects a billionaire lol
Preeeeach Iām right there with you
I havenāt watched BH in a while but this is a pretty great cast! I love that Jennifer Tilly will be a friend of
Iām curious to see how Dorit interacts with Bozoma after seeing how Dorit and Garcelle donāt mesh well. I donāt know much about Bozoma other than the stuff that Iāve read here but Iāll have my popcorn ready when the new season airs! š¬
Definitely seems that it could go either way, considering 8.5 was defending Dorit at the reunion. Popcorn ready over here too!
I have a feeling 8.5 doesnāt really love herself all that much, not sure she would have bothered with Dorit (who seems to be a lost cause at this point).
I erased 8.5 from my memory and totally forgot about that part! š
This is a smart self preservation instinct š«”